OCZ VERTEX 3 MI Hard Drive (gotta go SSD, no contest. Get a raptor or something for storage and put the apps on your SSD) ~400.00 ish for the SSD, anywhere from 100-200 for the storage (Raptor 10k RPM).
Asus Rampage III Black Edition mobo (slight matter of opinion here) 550.00
GSKILL DDR3 1600 (I go with 1600 for the low Cas Latency, again this is up to you. Stay with GSKILL or Kingston. You can get up to DDR 3 2200, but from what I've sen on benchmarks the 1600s are outperforming. You can get 12GB 1600 for 400'ish, 12GB 2200 for around 550)
Corsair HX Series 1000w Power supply 200.00
Antec 1200 V3 Case (This is definite opinion. I freaking love this case, 5 120mm case fans and one 220mm, bottom mounter power supply - I don't do liquid cooling) 160.00
Logitech G510 Keyboard 120.00 (might be something better out there now, love this though. Extra buttons, LCD display, on board volume and DVD funtionality etc)
RAZER Mamba mouse (7-button, like this because of the 5000dpi and the ability to use it wireless/non-wireless. No sexy lights or anything though) 120.00
So far you've only spent about 4k for all this (it was higher when I bought it all).
For monitors I have 2 23" LG W2340VGs, some might like something bigger, but these are great monitors for about $200 a piece. I like gloss finish on my monitors, which is part of why I chose these.
From there you basiclally pick monitors, and DVD/Blu Ray burners. I can't really recommend anything for burners.
To get your budget spent, I assume you'll be buying monitors, speakers, sound card, and could potentially go to liquid cooling. You could alos get a lot more memory and storage space to fill out the rest of the cash. By the time you get everything, I still can't see pushing 10k, because you're only gonna get about 5-6 years out of it.
Good luck man, you definitely need to post what you get. My machine is a beast, and with your budget you'll definitely take mine down a notch lol.
Well, getting a radeon is already a mistake imo (unlucky radeon owner myself). The drivers are just awfull. Anyway here is the best slef-made pc thread youll ever find: Link just scroll down.
If you have 10 k to spend on a desktop then you either have more moeny than brains or just inherited some money and its burning a hole in your pocket. Either ways its foolish to spend that much on tech that will be merely middle of the road in another year. This is a fools errand.
Wouldn't say middle of the road. Tech is lasting longer nowadays. My computer from 2009 still runs every game maxed out.
In times like this.. the computer is the last thing I would dump money in. Now days most people OP feel sorry fo you. There are tons of us that have a nice system and can run anything on it.
There are a few places where it can be worthwhile to spend a good bit of cash to get something nicer, but it generally isn't in the hardware and more in the peripherals.
A really nice monitor, for instance, will last for several computers. I'm still using a 19" LCD monitor that's just about 10 years old: it was nice when I got it, and it's a bit dim now, but still works great for a secondary monitor to view web pages and such on. A really nice monitor will cost much more than the $200 crappy ones you see at Best Buy, but don't pay just to pay, you need to actually look at it, some places will just jack the price up and hope you assume that if you pay a lot of money your getting a nice monitor.
A really nice sound system (something better than Logitech) will last for years and years. Go look at some high end stuff, you can spend crazy amounts of money on this, and a lot of it sounds very, very good. You won't find any of it in a computer store though. A bookshelf or studio monitor system is about the right size to replace computer speakers.
A good keyboard/mouse can run over $200 easily, and can be used for a long time. Don't pay just for the sake of paying more though, there are a lot of crappy junk peripherals here that just charge crazy amounts because they say "Gaming", but there are a few jewels out there that are truly worth the extra money.
A good chair: this can easily be $500+, and worth every penny
A good desk: same as chair, only a lot more money, but a good one can easily last more than your lifetime.
The really nice things aren't the parts that go inside your computer: those advance and get upgraded so fast that it isn't worthwhile to spend a lot of money on them. But investing in the stuff that goes outside the computer can last for years and years, and can make a huge difference in how much you do enjoy using that computer.
First, you're in the wrong forum section. But anyway:
-----
Processor:
You should get a Core i7-2600K. Sure, a Gulftown processor is more expensive. But more expensive isn't always better. In this case, more expensive is worse. Sandy Bridge's superior IPC and higher clock speeds make it a far superior gaming processor. Gulftown is really just Intel's way of saying, if you want to put a server processor into a desktop, we'll sell it to you, but we're charging server prices for it. Anyway, the Core i7-2600K:
You want two PCI Express 2.0 x16 slots, both wired for x16 bandwidth simultaneously. That means you need an extra PCI Express chip on the motherboard, such as Nvidia's NF200. There are a few motherboards that have that, but most of them have the two x16 slots physically arranged wrong. This one doesn't:
Use the two blue PCI Express x16 slots, as they're wired for x16 bandwidth. Don't use the two black ones, or else you'll knock a blue one down to x8 bandwidth. The white PCI Express x1 slots are fine for use, if you have any other expansion cards that you need.
-----
Video cards:
Two Radeon HD 6990s are the thing to get. All of the ones that New Egg has are reference cards, except for Power Color's one with a water block. In that case, it doesn't matter which brand you get. Unfortunately, they're also all out of stock.
Nvidia doesn't have anything worthwhile to offer at the super high end. The GeForce GTX 590 is a bad card, as it is unsafe even at stock speeds. It's too much heat in too little space. And that's if you have one; with two, it's worse. When you start pushing over 400 W, AMD's PowerTune, to enforce the TDP in hardware, is a killer feature, as it can mean the difference between a card working flawlessly and dying entirely.
-----
Monitors:
To justify all of that video hardware, you need an Eyefinity setup. You could get three 2560x1600 monitors, or five 1920x1080 monitors. If you want three 2560x1600 monitors, arranged to make a single 7680x1600 screen, then you can buy whatever and they'll work. Plan on spending $1000+ each for monitors of that size, though.
If you want five monitors, then you can arrange them vertically to make a 5400x1080 screen. If you do that, then you don't want the usual TN monitors, as poor vertical viewing angles will mean that with the monitors arranged on their ends, it shows as poor horizontal viewing angles. And that's bad. E-IPS monitors like this will avoid that problem:
Native DisplayPort connectivity is also good, as it lets you avoid the expensive active adapters.
-----
Memory:
The only processor that sees any benefit at all from clocking memory above 1600 MHz is Llano, and even that is only if you use the integrated graphics. That's great for a gaming laptop that won't get hot or noisy, but that's not what you want in a desktop. Two of these, on the other had, would work nicely:
1600 MHz DDR3, 1.5 V, 9-9-9-24 latency timings. Or just one of those kits, for that matter, as you really won't have any use for more than 8 GB yet. Even prefetching won't be that much use to you, because you're getting:
A 256 GB Crucial M4 gives you 238 GB of usable capacity. The second generation SandForce drives are faster, but still working out the firmware issues. So why not pick a great SSD on a mature controller at a competitive price? And yes, price matters, even on a $10000 budget.
But you need more than 238 GB of capacity, you say? A lot of people actually don't, even if they think they do. But for you:
2 TB Western Digital Caviar Black. Hard drives are an intrinsically slow technology, but WD's Caviar Black is, well, less slow. But the idea is that you stick the OS and programs on the SSD, and then bulk data files and random junk that you don't actually need but can't bring yourself to delete on the hard drive. For things where speed matters, it's on the SSD, so it will be fast. And for things where speed doesn't matter, it doesn't matter that hard drives are slow.
-----
Power supply:
You say you're getting a 1250 W Corsair power supply. The problem with this is that there is no such thing. Seasonic and Enermax have high wattage platinum platforms coming sometime around September, and at least one of those would likely be better than anything on the market today. But that's not out yet, so for now, the best you can do is Flextronics' top end unit:
You say you've picked out a case, but you don't say which one. I say that there's a decent chance that the case you've picked out can't handle your system. Unless you're going to liquid cool the video cards, cooling a pair of Radeon HD 6990s properly means you have to have massive airflow in the side of the case, and then have fans pull air out the front, back, and top. Having air blow in the front of the case like most cases do will obstruct the airflow caused by the fans on the 6990s. That's bad.
If the front fan is reversible (which I didn't look into), then a Cooler Master HAF 932 will get the job done, with a huge 230 mm side fan:
An Antec LanBoy Air is the most airflow you can get in a case, with room for 15 (yes, fifteen!) 120 mm fans, and lets you arrange things nearly however you want, so that you can get suitable airflow:
So let's see here. You're going to get thousands of dollars in computer equipment. And then you're going to pull very high wattages from the wall, which messes with the voltages. And then you're going to feed whatever funky voltages the electric utility sends you into your hardware and just hope that it works? Not on a $10000 budget, you aren't!
That's what uninterruptible power supplies are for. If the wrong voltage comes from the wall, it can catch it and fix it, and then give your power supply what it wants. UPSes with a high enough wattage to handle your power supply aren't cheap, and many of them require a 20 A wall plug, which you probably don't have. This one will work:
And then you'd need to get something separate to handle peripherals, especially monitors, so that you don't overload it. You might need to check on how your home is wired, to make sure that you don't flip a circuit breaker somewhere.
-----
Processor heatsink:
This depends on whether you want to overclock (and if so, then how far), and whether you want to go with air cooling or water cooling.
-----
Keyboard, mouse, speakers:
Pick something you like. Let's not make this complicated, as you're not price-sensitive here. Make sure the keyboard and mouse are wired, though. Also remember that more expensive isn't always better. Sometimes more expensive is worse. The best mouse I've ever used costs $15 plus shipping.
There's no need for SLC in a gaming system. Nor RAID of any variety.
-----
"Here's some parts I would get:
cpu"
Gulftown is not a good gaming processor. Well, I guess it's not bad, but it's not as good as Sandy Bridge, and not really any better than Lynnfield, even.
-----
"Intel 980X = $1000.00"
See above. Gulftown is not a good gaming processor.
You want Sandy Bridge, and that means you need an LGA 1155 system, not LGA 1366, which is obsolete.
"G.SKILL Ripjaws X 16GB (4 x 4GB) DDR3 2200 = $630.00"
That's the right number of modules for a Sandy Bridge system, but not for a Gulftown one, which has a triple channel memory controller. Besides, the difference between 2200 MHz DDR3 and 1600 MHz DDR3 for anything other than Llano is the price tag.
"Western Digital VelociRaptor 600GB 10000 RPM 32MB Cache"
Now that there are good solid state drives, VelociRaptors are obsolete.
"OCZ RevoDrive X2 960GB Internal Solid State Drive"
You need the PCI Express bandwidth for video cards, not SSDs. SATA works perfectly well for SSDs. Cheaper, too.
"Blue Ray drive Pioneer Blue Ray BDR-S05XLB = $230"
Okay, now you're just being ridiculous. You can get a Blu-Ray burner for less than half that price. Optical drives are a commodity.
Hard drives actually like temperatures significantly above room temperature. If your hard drives are overheating, that's a problem of general case airflow, and not a reason to get a dedicated hard drive cooling system.
"Cooler VGA Prolimatech MK-13 x 4 = $45 x 4 = $180"
Trying to put that on a dual GPU card is a bad idea.
Most cases can't accommodate those fans. Actually, I'm not aware of any case that does have room to add an extra 6 200 mm fans (as opposed to some other size of fans), in addition to what the case ships with.
"XFX FXGS2LAYER Mouse Pad = $50.00"
If you've picked a mouse that needs a mousepad, then you've picked a bad mouse. The solution is to pick a better mouse, not to get a mousepad.
"SAMSUNG MD230X6 Black 23" 1920 x 1080 = $3600.00"
There are cheaper ways to mount monitors. And for $10000, I'd think you'd hope for something rather taller than a meager 1080 pixels.
See my earlier comments about needing PCI Express bandwidth for the video cards.
-----
"Please reconsider using the ati card.. Ive used ati cards for 10 years now in my main pc, The amount of games that have glitches and sluggish proformace are ridiculous. I run crossfire 5770's and when i was playing wow that was still sluggish."
That you can come up with a creatively wacky setup doesn't mean that AMD cards are bad. Nvidia cards aren't any better on drivers than AMD; they're both actually pretty good. But Nvidia simply doesn't have anything competitive to offer if if you're looking to spend more than about $600 on video cards. Nvidia's multi-monitor support also leaves much to be desired, and it's awfully hard to justify $10000 on a single-monitor system.
-----
"Also, 600 GB ? Dont you ever download anything from the internet ? I dont even look at harddisks below 2TB any more"
I have a 120 GB SSD in my desktop and no hard drive. In my laptop, I have an SSD half that size, and still no hard drive. Not everyone keeps tons of random junk laying around.
-----
"Best advice is just buy one for 1k, and just buy a new one every 3 or 4 years."
$1500 will get you something a lot nicer than $1000, and even that is excluding peripherals. And if you want fancy peripherals, such as an Eyefinity setup, well, that adds considerably to the cost.
-----
"If i had that amount to spend on a PC i would go for a 3 screens in 3D setup and the graphics ability to adequately push it."
Too bad that the hardware to do that properly doesn't exist. Stereoscopic 3D is a dumb gimmick and will remain so for the foreseeable future.
-----
"If you really want to push the boat then go for 6 screens, again with the graphics cards to push them."
Six monitors is actually a bad idea for gaming, as it ends up in a 3x2 setup, and the monitor bezels between the rows are in a bad spot. It's better to go with 3x1 or 5x1.
-----
"Ati cards arent the way forwards
3d vision is awesome when running on a good game, personally id be building around nvidia"
Nvidia doesn't have anything competitive to offer above a pair of GeForce GTX 570s in SLI. The GeForce GTX 590 is a bad card, and two GeForce GTX 580s get beaten badly for by Radeon HD 6990+6970 "TriFire" for the same cost and power consumption. Two GTX 570s in SLI would be fine for a single monitor, but you don't want to run three montiors plus stereoscopic 3D on that.
Tom's hardware does too many goofy things with their builds. Two SSDs of unspecified capacity that certainly isn't above 56 GB and might be less, rather than one 120 GB SSD that will give you better performance for cheaper?
-----
"This, matched with quad SLI GTX 580's. Of course you'll need to spare some cash for the electricity company as well."
And to rewire your house. Quad SLI GTX 580s means that the usual high end 1200 W power supplies from Corsair and Antec won't be enough. Enermax's MaxRevo line does go up higher, but the 1350 W unit seems to be the only one that is out, and even that might not be enough. Silverstone does have a 1500 W unit, but that's not super high end quality.
-----
"Intel Xeon W3690 (Passmark benchmarked to be faster than the 990x) 1079.00"
Are you buying a computer for synthetic benchmarks, or are you buying it for gaming? Per core performance matters, and Sandy Bridge beats Gulftown there. Besides, if Intel sells the same processor under the Xeon brand name as under Core i7, putting a sticker on the box that says Xeon won't magically make it go faster.
If you're going to spend $600 on a single GPU video card, then at least make it the MSI Lightning with a better cooler and better power delivery, not the EVGA one.
"Corsair HX Series 1000w Power supply 200.00"
Great power supply in 2008. Still pretty nice today, but hardly the best of the best anymore. Ripple suppression is downright unimpressive by today's standards. If you're going with a single video card, then you could get something of higher quality and lower wattage for cheaper. Even if you want a Corsair power supply, if you ask them what their best is, they'll point you to their AX line, not HX.
-----
"Most of what I've seen, Crossfire is not worth it."
CrossFire actually scales better than SLI, though I think that's largely because AMD's more shader-heavy architecture scales better to higher resolutions than Nvidia's more geometry-heavy architecture. You can argue that multi-GPU setups aren't a good idea in the first place, but there isn't much of a case for saying that SLI is good and CrossFire is bad. You can go either way on a budget with around $500-$600 to spend on video cards, but above that, it has to be CrossFire, as Nvidia just doesn't have the hardware to offer.
-----
"Well, getting a radeon is already a mistake imo (unlucky radeon owner myself). The drivers are just awfull."
AMD and Nvidia both have good drivers. They'll run into problems now and then, but they usually fix the problems in a relatively timely manner. Most video driver problems that people have with AMD and Nvidia drivers in Windows are a result of not having installed the correct drivers properly in the first place. Intel video drivers, on the other hand, really are awful.
-----
"A good chair: this can easily be $500+, and worth every penny
A good desk: same as chair, only a lot more money, but a good one can easily last more than your lifetime."
Actually, I hadn't thought of that. But it is a good way to fill up a $10000 budget while still claiming that it's computer related.
-----
"I'm amused and impressed by Quizzical's ability to waste money when needed!"
I'll have you know that only some of the parts that I picked are a waste of money.
I've had it for two years, and it works great. I've used and abused it enough to wear off quite a bit of the paint. But it still works great. I even bought a second one for my laptop, and that one works very well, too. You can pay more for a mouse, but there just isn't a whole lot of room for improvement on "works perfectly".
- 3% Cash Discount, 8GB RAM Promotion & Price Match! Ask us about our Current Specials! We GUARANTEE we have the lowest price for the same configuration!
- 17.3" FHD 16:9 "Glare Type" Super Clear Ultra Bright LED Glossy Screen (1920x1080)-
- Sager NP7280 Spare 300W AC Adapter with Power Converter Box
- USB 2.0 Universal Docking Station (1VGA, 1 DVI, 1 Mic, 1 Audio Out, 1 LAN, 4 USB2.0) Run a total of 3 Display with Dock + Video Out on Laptop and Laptop Display
- Integrated Fingerprint Reader
- No External Keyboard or Mouse
- No Notebook Cooler
- No Thanks, Please do not Overclock my system (Overclocking will add 3-6 business days to build time)
- ~Windows 7 Ultimate 64-Bit Installed (64&32-Bit CD Included) w/ Drivers & Utilities CD's + Microsoft Office Starter 2010 - Included with OS Purchase
- No Office Software
- No Software Bundle
- 3 Year Labor* 1 Year Parts Warranty Lifetime -24/7 DOMESTIC Based- Toll Free Telephone Tech Support (Labor Warranty through Xotic PC)
Includes FREE Shipping Both Ways for Warranty Repairs
$10,581.00 <- price.
Do I win the biggest money waster thread yet? :O
''/\/\'' Posted using Iphone bunni ( o.o) (")(") **This bunny was cloned from bunnies belonging to Gobla and is part of the Quizzical Fanclub and the The Marvelously Meowhead Fan Club**
Originally posted by Quizzical ----- "This, matched with quad SLI GTX 580's. Of course you'll need to spare some cash for the electricity company as well." And to rewire your house. Quad SLI GTX 580s means that the usual high end 1200 W power supplies from Corsair and Antec won't be enough. Enermax's MaxRevo line does go up higher, but the 1350 W unit seems to be the only one that is out, and even that might not be enough. Silverstone does have a 1500 W unit, but that's not super high end quality. -----
Not to mention that the 580 only supports up to Tri-SLI. You have to do dual 590's to get a quad GPU solution from nVidia (which is a bad idea), the rest of the 500 series is only 2-way or 3-way.
As the title states, I am sitting aside 10 grand to build myself the ultimate gaming/multitasking PC. You have free reign on everything except the power supply and the video cards. I am going with a 1250 watt Corsair PS and 2 ATI HD 6990 Crossfire video cards (Not sure which brand yet though). I do want a separate sound card, something high end that I can plug into the surround sound system I am building around my PC area. I am also looking into cooling for the cpu and video cards. Before I forget do not worry about the case, that has already been bought and one last thing I do not care if the system is AMD or Intel based though I have always leaned towards AMD when I build my own systems. I do want this one to kick some ass. Thanks in advance
Here's the major flaw of your desires... $10,000 to spend on a computer that's worth 2 grand in 6 months if that, and no one will want it because it's hardware will be virtually obsolete. Yea you can get a few years of quality workmanship from the PC, but if you're spending 10 grand you obviously want the best, not second rate junk... Or did I miss something?
As the title states, I am sitting aside 10 grand to build myself the ultimate gaming/multitasking PC. You have free reign on everything except the power supply and the video cards. I am going with a 1250 watt Corsair PS and 2 ATI HD 6990 Crossfire video cards (Not sure which brand yet though). I do want a separate sound card, something high end that I can plug into the surround sound system I am building around my PC area. I am also looking into cooling for the cpu and video cards. Before I forget do not worry about the case, that has already been bought and one last thing I do not care if the system is AMD or Intel based though I have always leaned towards AMD when I build my own systems. I do want this one to kick some ass. Thanks in advance
Here's the major flaw of your desires... $10,000 to spend on a computer that's worth 2 grand in 6 months if that, and no one will want it because it's hardware will be virtually obsolete.
rofl, ya ok, sorry but just because its a few years old doenst make it bad, i ran on an 8800GT for years just fine, people who waste there money upgrading there comp every year are fools.
Hey, lets spend another $500-$1000 on pc parts so i can get 5 FPS more and a shiny extra effect!
Apparently stating the truth in my sig is "trolling" Sig typo fixed thanks to an observant stragen001.
Comments
Your 10K ultimate system will be outdated in 6 months. Congrats though.
I bought the best of the best and only spent about 5k. Of course, I already had the monitors, keyboard/mouse, and speak system.
Look at www.passmark.com for speed details, and you can find most of this at newegg.com as far as purchase.
Intel Xeon W3690 (Passmark benchmarked to be faster than the 990x) 1079.00
EVGA 03G-P3-1584-AR (Geforce GTX 580) bout 600.00 bucks, SLI ready, 3072MB DDR5
OCZ VERTEX 3 MI Hard Drive (gotta go SSD, no contest. Get a raptor or something for storage and put the apps on your SSD) ~400.00 ish for the SSD, anywhere from 100-200 for the storage (Raptor 10k RPM).
Asus Rampage III Black Edition mobo (slight matter of opinion here) 550.00
GSKILL DDR3 1600 (I go with 1600 for the low Cas Latency, again this is up to you. Stay with GSKILL or Kingston. You can get up to DDR 3 2200, but from what I've sen on benchmarks the 1600s are outperforming. You can get 12GB 1600 for 400'ish, 12GB 2200 for around 550)
Corsair HX Series 1000w Power supply 200.00
Antec 1200 V3 Case (This is definite opinion. I freaking love this case, 5 120mm case fans and one 220mm, bottom mounter power supply - I don't do liquid cooling) 160.00
Logitech G510 Keyboard 120.00 (might be something better out there now, love this though. Extra buttons, LCD display, on board volume and DVD funtionality etc)
RAZER Mamba mouse (7-button, like this because of the 5000dpi and the ability to use it wireless/non-wireless. No sexy lights or anything though) 120.00
So far you've only spent about 4k for all this (it was higher when I bought it all).
For monitors I have 2 23" LG W2340VGs, some might like something bigger, but these are great monitors for about $200 a piece. I like gloss finish on my monitors, which is part of why I chose these.
From there you basiclally pick monitors, and DVD/Blu Ray burners. I can't really recommend anything for burners.
To get your budget spent, I assume you'll be buying monitors, speakers, sound card, and could potentially go to liquid cooling. You could alos get a lot more memory and storage space to fill out the rest of the cash. By the time you get everything, I still can't see pushing 10k, because you're only gonna get about 5-6 years out of it.
Good luck man, you definitely need to post what you get. My machine is a beast, and with your budget you'll definitely take mine down a notch lol.
More like 6 years.
If you don't act like an asshat, the people here are very knowledgeable about building a PC:
http://vnboards.ign.com/pc_generalhardwaresoftware_tech_support_board/b22497/p1
Most of what I've seen, Crossfire is not worth it.
Well, getting a radeon is already a mistake imo (unlucky radeon owner myself). The drivers are just awfull. Anyway here is the best slef-made pc thread youll ever find:
Link
just scroll down.
You sir, have no clue about PC's
Wouldn't say middle of the road. Tech is lasting longer nowadays. My computer from 2009 still runs every game maxed out.
In times like this.. the computer is the last thing I would dump money in. Now days most people OP feel sorry fo you. There are tons of us that have a nice system and can run anything on it.
There are a few places where it can be worthwhile to spend a good bit of cash to get something nicer, but it generally isn't in the hardware and more in the peripherals.
A really nice monitor, for instance, will last for several computers. I'm still using a 19" LCD monitor that's just about 10 years old: it was nice when I got it, and it's a bit dim now, but still works great for a secondary monitor to view web pages and such on. A really nice monitor will cost much more than the $200 crappy ones you see at Best Buy, but don't pay just to pay, you need to actually look at it, some places will just jack the price up and hope you assume that if you pay a lot of money your getting a nice monitor.
A really nice sound system (something better than Logitech) will last for years and years. Go look at some high end stuff, you can spend crazy amounts of money on this, and a lot of it sounds very, very good. You won't find any of it in a computer store though. A bookshelf or studio monitor system is about the right size to replace computer speakers.
A good keyboard/mouse can run over $200 easily, and can be used for a long time. Don't pay just for the sake of paying more though, there are a lot of crappy junk peripherals here that just charge crazy amounts because they say "Gaming", but there are a few jewels out there that are truly worth the extra money.
A good chair: this can easily be $500+, and worth every penny
A good desk: same as chair, only a lot more money, but a good one can easily last more than your lifetime.
The really nice things aren't the parts that go inside your computer: those advance and get upgraded so fast that it isn't worthwhile to spend a lot of money on them. But investing in the stuff that goes outside the computer can last for years and years, and can make a huge difference in how much you do enjoy using that computer.
could build same specs for WAAAAAAAYYYYYY less yourself.
"Sometimes people say stuff they don''t mean, but more often then that they don''t say things they do mean"
First, you're in the wrong forum section. But anyway:
-----
Processor:
You should get a Core i7-2600K. Sure, a Gulftown processor is more expensive. But more expensive isn't always better. In this case, more expensive is worse. Sandy Bridge's superior IPC and higher clock speeds make it a far superior gaming processor. Gulftown is really just Intel's way of saying, if you want to put a server processor into a desktop, we'll sell it to you, but we're charging server prices for it. Anyway, the Core i7-2600K:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115070
-----
Motherboard:
You want two PCI Express 2.0 x16 slots, both wired for x16 bandwidth simultaneously. That means you need an extra PCI Express chip on the motherboard, such as Nvidia's NF200. There are a few motherboards that have that, but most of them have the two x16 slots physically arranged wrong. This one doesn't:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131714
Use the two blue PCI Express x16 slots, as they're wired for x16 bandwidth. Don't use the two black ones, or else you'll knock a blue one down to x8 bandwidth. The white PCI Express x1 slots are fine for use, if you have any other expansion cards that you need.
-----
Video cards:
Two Radeon HD 6990s are the thing to get. All of the ones that New Egg has are reference cards, except for Power Color's one with a water block. In that case, it doesn't matter which brand you get. Unfortunately, they're also all out of stock.
Nvidia doesn't have anything worthwhile to offer at the super high end. The GeForce GTX 590 is a bad card, as it is unsafe even at stock speeds. It's too much heat in too little space. And that's if you have one; with two, it's worse. When you start pushing over 400 W, AMD's PowerTune, to enforce the TDP in hardware, is a killer feature, as it can mean the difference between a card working flawlessly and dying entirely.
-----
Monitors:
To justify all of that video hardware, you need an Eyefinity setup. You could get three 2560x1600 monitors, or five 1920x1080 monitors. If you want three 2560x1600 monitors, arranged to make a single 7680x1600 screen, then you can buy whatever and they'll work. Plan on spending $1000+ each for monitors of that size, though.
If you want five monitors, then you can arrange them vertically to make a 5400x1080 screen. If you do that, then you don't want the usual TN monitors, as poor vertical viewing angles will mean that with the monitors arranged on their ends, it shows as poor horizontal viewing angles. And that's bad. E-IPS monitors like this will avoid that problem:
http://accessories.us.dell.com/sna/productdetail.aspx?cs=19&c=us&l=en&sku=320-9270
Native DisplayPort connectivity is also good, as it lets you avoid the expensive active adapters.
-----
Memory:
The only processor that sees any benefit at all from clocking memory above 1600 MHz is Llano, and even that is only if you use the integrated graphics. That's great for a gaming laptop that won't get hot or noisy, but that's not what you want in a desktop. Two of these, on the other had, would work nicely:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820233180
1600 MHz DDR3, 1.5 V, 9-9-9-24 latency timings. Or just one of those kits, for that matter, as you really won't have any use for more than 8 GB yet. Even prefetching won't be that much use to you, because you're getting:
-----
Storage:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820148443
A 256 GB Crucial M4 gives you 238 GB of usable capacity. The second generation SandForce drives are faster, but still working out the firmware issues. So why not pick a great SSD on a mature controller at a competitive price? And yes, price matters, even on a $10000 budget.
But you need more than 238 GB of capacity, you say? A lot of people actually don't, even if they think they do. But for you:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136792
2 TB Western Digital Caviar Black. Hard drives are an intrinsically slow technology, but WD's Caviar Black is, well, less slow. But the idea is that you stick the OS and programs on the SSD, and then bulk data files and random junk that you don't actually need but can't bring yourself to delete on the hard drive. For things where speed matters, it's on the SSD, so it will be fast. And for things where speed doesn't matter, it doesn't matter that hard drives are slow.
-----
Power supply:
You say you're getting a 1250 W Corsair power supply. The problem with this is that there is no such thing. Seasonic and Enermax have high wattage platinum platforms coming sometime around September, and at least one of those would likely be better than anything on the market today. But that's not out yet, so for now, the best you can do is Flextronics' top end unit:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139014
Or else Delta's top end unit:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817371043
My guess is that you meant the former.
-----
Optical drive:
A Blu-Ray burner is a waste of money. But you're trying to waste money, so here:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827118050
Or just get an ordinary CD/DVD burner like this if you would rather not waste the money on Blu-Ray:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827118039
-----
Case:
You say you've picked out a case, but you don't say which one. I say that there's a decent chance that the case you've picked out can't handle your system. Unless you're going to liquid cool the video cards, cooling a pair of Radeon HD 6990s properly means you have to have massive airflow in the side of the case, and then have fans pull air out the front, back, and top. Having air blow in the front of the case like most cases do will obstruct the airflow caused by the fans on the 6990s. That's bad.
If the front fan is reversible (which I didn't look into), then a Cooler Master HAF 932 will get the job done, with a huge 230 mm side fan:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811119160
An Antec LanBoy Air is the most airflow you can get in a case, with room for 15 (yes, fifteen!) 120 mm fans, and lets you arrange things nearly however you want, so that you can get suitable airflow:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811129093
That's the blue model. It also comes in red and yellow.
-----
Operating system:
Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit is the appropriate choice for most people:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16832116986
Or if you want to waste money, you could get Windows 7 Ultimate:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16832116997
-----
Power protection:
So let's see here. You're going to get thousands of dollars in computer equipment. And then you're going to pull very high wattages from the wall, which messes with the voltages. And then you're going to feed whatever funky voltages the electric utility sends you into your hardware and just hope that it works? Not on a $10000 budget, you aren't!
That's what uninterruptible power supplies are for. If the wrong voltage comes from the wall, it can catch it and fix it, and then give your power supply what it wants. UPSes with a high enough wattage to handle your power supply aren't cheap, and many of them require a 20 A wall plug, which you probably don't have. This one will work:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16842102120
And then you'd need to get something separate to handle peripherals, especially monitors, so that you don't overload it. You might need to check on how your home is wired, to make sure that you don't flip a circuit breaker somewhere.
-----
Processor heatsink:
This depends on whether you want to overclock (and if so, then how far), and whether you want to go with air cooling or water cooling.
-----
Keyboard, mouse, speakers:
Pick something you like. Let's not make this complicated, as you're not price-sensitive here. Make sure the keyboard and mouse are wired, though. Also remember that more expensive isn't always better. Sometimes more expensive is worse. The best mouse I've ever used costs $15 plus shipping.
I'm amused and impressed by Quizzical's ability to waste money when needed!
There goes that extra money for the fancy desk and chair. Oh well, that's why they make milk crates and 2x4s, anyway.
"1 TB SLC SSD array:D"
There's no need for SLC in a gaming system. Nor RAID of any variety.
-----
"Here's some parts I would get:
cpu"
Gulftown is not a good gaming processor. Well, I guess it's not bad, but it's not as good as Sandy Bridge, and not really any better than Lynnfield, even.
-----
"Intel 980X = $1000.00"
See above. Gulftown is not a good gaming processor.
"EVGA 170-BL-E762-A1 LGA 1366 Intel X58 4-WAY SLI Classified = $380.00"
You want Sandy Bridge, and that means you need an LGA 1155 system, not LGA 1366, which is obsolete.
"G.SKILL Ripjaws X 16GB (4 x 4GB) DDR3 2200 = $630.00"
That's the right number of modules for a Sandy Bridge system, but not for a Gulftown one, which has a triple channel memory controller. Besides, the difference between 2200 MHz DDR3 and 1600 MHz DDR3 for anything other than Llano is the price tag.
"Western Digital VelociRaptor 600GB 10000 RPM 32MB Cache"
Now that there are good solid state drives, VelociRaptors are obsolete.
"OCZ RevoDrive X2 960GB Internal Solid State Drive"
You need the PCI Express bandwidth for video cards, not SSDs. SATA works perfectly well for SSDs. Cheaper, too.
"Blue Ray drive Pioneer Blue Ray BDR-S05XLB = $230"
Okay, now you're just being ridiculous. You can get a Blu-Ray burner for less than half that price. Optical drives are a commodity.
"Cooler Harddisk Cooler Master CoolDrive 6x 4 = $43.77 x 4 = $175.11"
Hard drives actually like temperatures significantly above room temperature. If your hard drives are overheating, that's a problem of general case airflow, and not a reason to get a dedicated hard drive cooling system.
"Cooler VGA Prolimatech MK-13 x 4 = $45 x 4 = $180"
Trying to put that on a dual GPU card is a bad idea.
"Cooler CASING XIGMATEK Crystal 200x 6 fans 200mm = $18.99 x 6 = $113.94"
Most cases can't accommodate those fans. Actually, I'm not aware of any case that does have room to add an extra 6 200 mm fans (as opposed to some other size of fans), in addition to what the case ships with.
"XFX FXGS2LAYER Mouse Pad = $50.00"
If you've picked a mouse that needs a mousepad, then you've picked a bad mouse. The solution is to pick a better mouse, not to get a mousepad.
"SAMSUNG MD230X6 Black 23" 1920 x 1080 = $3600.00"
There are cheaper ways to mount monitors. And for $10000, I'd think you'd hope for something rather taller than a meager 1080 pixels.
"HT | OMEGA Claro Halo XT PCI Interface Sound Card = $250.00
VisionTek Bigfoot Killer 2100 Gaming Network Card = $90.00"
See my earlier comments about needing PCI Express bandwidth for the video cards.
-----
"Please reconsider using the ati card.. Ive used ati cards for 10 years now in my main pc, The amount of games that have glitches and sluggish proformace are ridiculous. I run crossfire 5770's and when i was playing wow that was still sluggish."
That you can come up with a creatively wacky setup doesn't mean that AMD cards are bad. Nvidia cards aren't any better on drivers than AMD; they're both actually pretty good. But Nvidia simply doesn't have anything competitive to offer if if you're looking to spend more than about $600 on video cards. Nvidia's multi-monitor support also leaves much to be desired, and it's awfully hard to justify $10000 on a single-monitor system.
-----
"Also, 600 GB ? Dont you ever download anything from the internet ? I dont even look at harddisks below 2TB any more"
I have a 120 GB SSD in my desktop and no hard drive. In my laptop, I have an SSD half that size, and still no hard drive. Not everyone keeps tons of random junk laying around.
-----
"Best advice is just buy one for 1k, and just buy a new one every 3 or 4 years."
$1500 will get you something a lot nicer than $1000, and even that is excluding peripherals. And if you want fancy peripherals, such as an Eyefinity setup, well, that adds considerably to the cost.
-----
"If i had that amount to spend on a PC i would go for a 3 screens in 3D setup and the graphics ability to adequately push it."
Too bad that the hardware to do that properly doesn't exist. Stereoscopic 3D is a dumb gimmick and will remain so for the foreseeable future.
-----
"If you really want to push the boat then go for 6 screens, again with the graphics cards to push them."
Six monitors is actually a bad idea for gaming, as it ends up in a 3x2 setup, and the monitor bezels between the rows are in a bad spot. It's better to go with 3x1 or 5x1.
-----
"Ati cards arent the way forwards
3d vision is awesome when running on a good game, personally id be building around nvidia"
Nvidia doesn't have anything competitive to offer above a pair of GeForce GTX 570s in SLI. The GeForce GTX 590 is a bad card, and two GeForce GTX 580s get beaten badly for by Radeon HD 6990+6970 "TriFire" for the same cost and power consumption. Two GTX 570s in SLI would be fine for a single monitor, but you don't want to run three montiors plus stereoscopic 3D on that.
-----
"Go with that one :
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/system-builder-gaming-pc,2961.html";
Tom's hardware does too many goofy things with their builds. Two SSDs of unspecified capacity that certainly isn't above 56 GB and might be less, rather than one 120 GB SSD that will give you better performance for cheaper?
-----
"This, matched with quad SLI GTX 580's. Of course you'll need to spare some cash for the electricity company as well."
And to rewire your house. Quad SLI GTX 580s means that the usual high end 1200 W power supplies from Corsair and Antec won't be enough. Enermax's MaxRevo line does go up higher, but the 1350 W unit seems to be the only one that is out, and even that might not be enough. Silverstone does have a 1500 W unit, but that's not super high end quality.
-----
"Intel Xeon W3690 (Passmark benchmarked to be faster than the 990x) 1079.00"
Are you buying a computer for synthetic benchmarks, or are you buying it for gaming? Per core performance matters, and Sandy Bridge beats Gulftown there. Besides, if Intel sells the same processor under the Xeon brand name as under Core i7, putting a sticker on the box that says Xeon won't magically make it go faster.
"EVGA 03G-P3-1584-AR (Geforce GTX 580) bout 600.00 bucks, SLI ready, 3072MB DDR5"
If you're going to spend $600 on a single GPU video card, then at least make it the MSI Lightning with a better cooler and better power delivery, not the EVGA one.
"Corsair HX Series 1000w Power supply 200.00"
Great power supply in 2008. Still pretty nice today, but hardly the best of the best anymore. Ripple suppression is downright unimpressive by today's standards. If you're going with a single video card, then you could get something of higher quality and lower wattage for cheaper. Even if you want a Corsair power supply, if you ask them what their best is, they'll point you to their AX line, not HX.
-----
"Most of what I've seen, Crossfire is not worth it."
CrossFire actually scales better than SLI, though I think that's largely because AMD's more shader-heavy architecture scales better to higher resolutions than Nvidia's more geometry-heavy architecture. You can argue that multi-GPU setups aren't a good idea in the first place, but there isn't much of a case for saying that SLI is good and CrossFire is bad. You can go either way on a budget with around $500-$600 to spend on video cards, but above that, it has to be CrossFire, as Nvidia just doesn't have the hardware to offer.
-----
"Well, getting a radeon is already a mistake imo (unlucky radeon owner myself). The drivers are just awfull."
AMD and Nvidia both have good drivers. They'll run into problems now and then, but they usually fix the problems in a relatively timely manner. Most video driver problems that people have with AMD and Nvidia drivers in Windows are a result of not having installed the correct drivers properly in the first place. Intel video drivers, on the other hand, really are awful.
-----
"A good chair: this can easily be $500+, and worth every penny
A good desk: same as chair, only a lot more money, but a good one can easily last more than your lifetime."
Actually, I hadn't thought of that. But it is a good way to fill up a $10000 budget while still claiming that it's computer related.
-----
"I'm amused and impressed by Quizzical's ability to waste money when needed!"
I'll have you know that only some of the parts that I picked are a waste of money.
-----
Also, just for fun, I like this mouse:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16826623004
I've had it for two years, and it works great. I've used and abused it enough to wear off quite a bit of the paint. But it still works great. I even bought a second one for my laptop, and that one works very well, too. You can pay more for a mouse, but there just isn't a whole lot of room for improvement on "works perfectly".
Pfft. You can build a kick ass system for less than $2000, then save the other $8000 for something else.
Anyone who spends $10k on a gaming PC is just burning their money. It's a waste.
- 3% Cash Discount, 8GB RAM Promotion & Price Match! Ask us about our Current Specials! We GUARANTEE we have the lowest price for the same configuration!
- 17.3" FHD 16:9 "Glare Type" Super Clear Ultra Bright LED Glossy Screen (1920x1080)-
- Standard Dead Pixel Policy
- Intel® Core™ i7-960 (3.2-3.46GHz) 8MB L3 Cache, 4.8 GT/sec QPI, LGA 1366
- -Stock OEM Thermal Compound
- nVidia Quadro FX5010M 4,096MB PCI-Express GDDR5
- Matrox TripleHead2Go External Monitor Video Controller (3 External Monitors)
- ~ 12,288MB DDR3 1333MHz Memory (3 SODIMMS)-
- Standard Finish
- ~ 600GB Intel 320 Series Solid State Drive (SSD Serial-ATA II)
- ~ 600GB Intel 320 Series Solid State Drive (SSD Serial-ATA II)~
- ~ 600GB Intel 320 Series Solid State Drive (SSD Serial-ATA II)~
- HDD Raid Settings - OFF
- ~ 600GB Intel 320 Series Solid State Drive (SSD Serial-ATA II) in Optical Bay
- Optical Bay Hard Drive Caddy (Caddy Only) Used For Installing Your Own Hard Drive
- External Aluminum USB 3.0 750GB 7200RPM 2.5" SATA Hard Drive - On Sale!
- External USB 2.0 Slim Blu-Ray Reader + 8X DVDRW/CDRW Super Multi Combo Drive
- No Floppy Drive
- Internal 3-in-1 Card Reader (SD/MMC/MS)
- No Back Up Software
- Internal Bluetooth + EDR
- Bigfoot Networks Killer™ Wireless-N 1102
- NETGEAR WNDR3700-100NAS 802.11A/B/G/N Rangemax 2.4/5GHz Simultaneous Dual Band Wireless Gigabit Router w/ USB port
- Integrated Digital Video Camera
- External USB ATSC HDTV / Analog TV Tuner with EXPRESS CARD REMOTE (TVT-6010)
- Creative Sound Blaster X-Fi Xmod Wired/Wireless Sound Card System (Broadcast Xtreme Fidelity Audio from PC to other audio devices wirelessly)
- Black 17" Detachable-Wheeled Leather Laptop Case
- Sager NP7280 Spare 78.44WH Polymer Smart Lithium-Ion Battery
- Belkin AC Anywhere 300W
- Sager NP7280 Spare 300W AC Adapter with Power Converter Box
- USB 2.0 Universal Docking Station (1VGA, 1 DVI, 1 Mic, 1 Audio Out, 1 LAN, 4 USB2.0) Run a total of 3 Display with Dock + Video Out on Laptop and Laptop Display
- Integrated Fingerprint Reader
- No External Keyboard or Mouse
- No Notebook Cooler
- No Thanks, Please do not Overclock my system (Overclocking will add 3-6 business days to build time)
- ~Windows 7 Ultimate 64-Bit Installed (64&32-Bit CD Included) w/ Drivers & Utilities CD's + Microsoft Office Starter 2010 - Included with OS Purchase
- No Office Software
- No Software Bundle
- 3 Year Labor* 1 Year Parts Warranty Lifetime -24/7 DOMESTIC Based- Toll Free Telephone Tech Support (Labor Warranty through Xotic PC)
Includes FREE Shipping Both Ways for Warranty Repairs
$10,581.00 <- price.
Do I win the biggest money waster thread yet? :O
''/\/\'' Posted using Iphone bunni
( o.o)
(")(")
**This bunny was cloned from bunnies belonging to Gobla and is part of the Quizzical Fanclub and the The Marvelously Meowhead Fan Club**
If you put more than 3k on a pc its a bad buy belive me cuz that pc will be nothing in 3 years or 4 so yeah 10k is alot of money for a pc!!
Not to mention that the 580 only supports up to Tri-SLI. You have to do dual 590's to get a quad GPU solution from nVidia (which is a bad idea), the rest of the 500 series is only 2-way or 3-way.
Component
Item
Price
Processor
Intel Core i7-2600K 3.4GHz
$314.99
Motherboard
Asus P8Z68-V Pro
$209.99
Memory
Corsair Vengeance 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600
$84.99
Corsair Vengeance 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600
$84.99
Graphics
MSI Radeon HD 6950 2GB
$279.99
MSI Radeon HD 6950 2GB
$279.99
Storage
OCZ Vertex 3 240GB
$464.99
Hitachi Deskstar 7K3000 3TB
$179.99
Hitachi Deskstar 7K3000 3TB
$179.99
LG WH12LS30 Blu-ray burner
$94.99
Audio
Asus Xonar DX
$89.99
Power supply
Corsair AX850W
$189.99
Enclosure
Corsair Obsidian Series 800D
$269.99
Total
$2,724.87
Played: MCO - EQ/EQ2 - WoW - VG - WAR - AoC - LoTRO - DDO - GW/GW2 - Eve - Rift - FE - TSW - TSO - WS - ESO - AA - BD
Playing: Sims 3 & 4, Diablo3 and PoE
Waiting on: Lost Ark
Who's going to make a Cyberpunk MMO?
Are you talking about 10k of Zimbawian dollars? Will not even get a power supply for that.
Make us care MORE about our faction & world pvp!
Here's the major flaw of your desires... $10,000 to spend on a computer that's worth 2 grand in 6 months if that, and no one will want it because it's hardware will be virtually obsolete. Yea you can get a few years of quality workmanship from the PC, but if you're spending 10 grand you obviously want the best, not second rate junk... Or did I miss something?
Invest $8K, build $2k system which is damn near top-of-line and then keep building your systems every 3-4 years with the original investment. Smarter.
http://www.hardcorecomputer.com/ProductConfigurator_productReactorX.aspx
You go top of the line hear including 3 23inch monitors and keyboard mouse you come out to 10 329.
Overclocked Intel® Core™ i7 990X Six Core Processor (4.29GHz, 12MB Cache)
16GB DDR3 1600MHz (4 x 4GB) memory
3 x NVIDIA® GeForce® GTX 580 1536MB 384-bit GDDR5 SLI®
2 x 650W power supplies
1.5 TB, 7200 RPM SATA, 32MB Cache, 3Gb/s
3 x Samsung 256GB SSDs, RAID 0
Panasonic UJ-235-A SATA slot-loading Blu-ray
Microsoft Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit
3-year extended warranty
Display, Samsung PX2370 23" 2ms Full HD LED BackLight LCD Monitor Slim Design (3)
Optional keyboard
Logitech G9x
ArcSoft TotalMedia Theatre
NOW thats the way to drop 10 grand!
rofl, ya ok, sorry but just because its a few years old doenst make it bad, i ran on an 8800GT for years just fine, people who waste there money upgrading there comp every year are fools.
Hey, lets spend another $500-$1000 on pc parts so i can get 5 FPS more and a shiny extra effect!
Apparently stating the truth in my sig is "trolling"
Sig typo fixed thanks to an observant stragen001.
Quality suggestion!
Something short term and long term!