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It's funny you say that. I imagine that this country at present is not at all what the founding fathers envisioned.
This place is full of tree-huggers and tofu fartn' faeries...
I wasn't comparing at all. I was just asking if the flag looked like that, would he still support it. And in truth, that symbol actually means peace.
This place is full of tree-huggers and tofu fartn' faeries...
It's funny you say that. I imagine that this country at present is not at all what the founding fathers envisioned.
Of course it isn't. I never said it was. However, the flag, in my opinion, is a symbol of their ideals and something we should all strive for.
It doesn't matter how it look's, it matter what it repsent's. Until you learn what that means then post. On a side note flag's where never made for political ideas. They where made for military conflicts for two reasons 1)to show what formations your battle group is in ,these flag usly have word phrases or symbol's 2)to distinguish what faction country or group who you are fighting for. Solider's took pride in who they faught for, they died for there flag there county and country men. If you don't under stand the flag you should go back to school and learn something new, because flag's been around for thousands of years. There symbol's of peace and power strength and courage. If you saw 50 thousand men with over 5 thousand flag's, it would be a awesome site on the battlefield. Just like the roman legion's used to do to show there power. It just not there for show it's a statement.
I know what the flag represents, or at least what it is supposed to, but your post was completely misguided. My original question was based on the article considering the burning of the flag. When one burns a flag they are showing their disagreement and dissatisfaction with the current political state. As for your comment of flags being symbols of peace, power, strength and courage, maybe it is you who should go back to school to learn of some of the tyranical leaders who emblazened their symbols on flags and marched on campaigns for domination, not peace. Did pirates bear flags in show for peace? I think not. They flew their flags to strike fear into peoples hearts.
First, what am I a sore loser of? Second, people like you amaze me. Do you honestly think that it was just the United States who fought in WWII. And I hate to break it to you, but the troops of any country did not win the war. Sure they won battles, but the winner of the war was the A-bomb. If it was never dropped, Japan would have never surrendered and the domino effect would not have followed. Japan did not fear the United States. If they did, they would not have attacked Pearl Harbor and pulled us into the war. And who dropped the bomb? The US. Is that truely something to be proud of?
Technically yes, the US helped stop the war, but is it really something to brag about?
I know what the flag represents, or at least what it is supposed to, but your post completely was misguided. My original question was based on the article considering the burning of the flag. When one burns a flag they are showing their disagreement and dissatisfaction with the current political state. As for your comment of flags being symbols of peace, power, strength and courage, maybe it is you who should go back to school to learn of some of the tyranical leaders who emblazened their symbols on flags and marched on campaigns for domination, not peace. Did pirates bear flags in show for peace? I think not. They flew their flags to strike fear into peoples hearts.
Yes and your point is about pirates is what ? Didn't i say flag's show there power to scare there enemy away, didn't you read the part where flag's where made to show what faction your fighting for. Trying to flame what has already been said, is going to lead in circles to bite you in your ass maybe you should slow down and read alittle better. What i'm trying to say is by burning a flag for political views is wrong because the arm forces have more rights to the flag as any politician. Even if your only targeting political views your still attacking anyone that has server the flag.
in combat situation i would be hard pressed not to off someone burning a US flag. Back home, stateside, some hair-head or scum dissident burning the flag as a protest against the government he can't be bothered to vote for/aginst makes me want to demonstrate the force of my boot in his ass. And removal of the jerk's citizenship. What other country would allow that kind of demonstration and not execute the guy on the ashes of their flag!
If you want to change things try the democratic process to have your representatives express your views, rather than some enflaming demonstration to push the buttons of those that were with friends that died to support that flag, and relive the memories those combats force forever.
Already tried that, but there were 51% more morons that voted for the current administration. And it is humourous that you say "have your representatives express your views" because that is not at all how the process works. Reps get in with promises and then cater to their personal views and their contributors.
And as for what other country would allow that, many. It seems that you haven't traveled the world much. I'm not directing an attack towards you, i'm just saying that you do not know situations in other countries.
And btw, what is a hair-head?
Yes, I'm sure most hardliners in the former USSR and Nazi Party would agree 100 percent with you. Don't start with the "other countries would kill you" point-on-view. I would be hardpressed in liberal eurpoe to find any country that does that. In fact when it comes to Death pentaly laws( not saying Im against the DP), we were just 1 out of 7 countries(the other 6 were very backward) that would excute minors a few months ago.
Where the hell did you get military runs the country, dude read before posting. Your just mixing up word's to try to make you sound right, it's not working but nice try.
*put's on fire boots and turns on hose*
"What i'm trying to say is by burning a flag for political views is wrong because the arm forces have more rights to the flag as any politician." That isn't exactly an intelligent or clear sentence. I can't even translate clearly this sentence.
Join the army or any arm forces then you will understand what the flag mean's to them. Like i said above in many post's in this thread. The flag means more to the arm forces then to someone sitting in Washington wearing his pin to look cool for the people to vote for him.
Nah, I prefer to think for myself.
I concur whole heartedly with this. The flag represents a lot to some of us, and to the others it represents a colored cloth, among other things. Personally, If my neighbor chose to burn his flag because of something the country did that he chose to disagree on, great, my neighbor is his own person, but I wouldn't do it.
KillerTwinkie - That one guy who used to mod mmorpg.com's forums.
Just because your averge military guide says the flag is god doesn't mean that the flag has become god for the folks in the arm forces. My dad is in the Air Force and flag doesn't have anymore significant then it does to anyone else. He thinks the military in the Rumsfield era is a far worse off. I couldn't stand joining for the simple fact that I'm a thought criminal.
But yes, I do agree that the politicans are fakes and liars, but then again, you are the one supporting their laws.
This place is full of tree-huggers and tofu fartn' faeries...
As said before, The flag is the symbol of a country, it represents everything that country is (no matter political or military) and everything thats good or bad its represented in the flag as well. So if a specific country has something that disgusts other people, those people have the right to burn their flag if they want, even if that country is their own country. I think that kind of liberty is one of the primal concept of USA, it makes no sense saying "we fought that war for your freedom" and everything else if you cant portrait your freedom the way you want, its like giving with one hand, and taking back with the other. We must remember the First Amendment, and if you're not hurting anyone phisically, then you're not a criminal, and should not be. Its a much healthier way of freedom of speech than shooting people at the streets and schools.
This kind of background resembles the roman empire, little before the end of the empire, Constantium (don't know the english name) accepted the christianism in Rome, and shortly after he adopted it as the official religion. Now, whats the purpose of adopting a religion that grants rights to everyone in a civilization that is based on slavery? Suicide. Now think with me, what's the purpose of USA to adopt a law that lessens people freedom in a country which the main philosophy is freedom? Again, suicide...