Keep hating Blizzard, no matter how good the games are.
Keep playing other games, however bad, so long as it is not Blizzard
Stay your way of classy.
See how stupid your moan sounds, it means just as empty if rephrased the other way round.
The funny part is, I played Diablo II, Warcraft series, WoW, and SC2, and I loved all of them.
Doesn't mean I have to go all fanboy and support every action when I see a game taking a direction that is obviously not for the best of the gamers, and will produce a lower quality game.
There is no excuse for no offline play, no excuse for no-lan play, no excuse for no mods, since these were some of the factors that made the previous game, and the overall H&S genre fan to play
There is no excuse for no offline play, no excuse for no-lan play, no excuse for no mods, since these were some of the factors that made the previous game, and the overall H&S genre fan to play
last diablo i played local with a friend was diablo 1, must have been around 2000 ^^.... imo those times are over, we dont need no lan support or offline play for diablo, diablo is all about bnet, and imo THAT'S what made diablo diablo - one of the best online hack n slay games so far.
uh, and diablo DOES feature random dungeons (@some of the posts above)
"I'll never grow up, never grow up, never grow up! Not me!"
There is no excuse for no offline play, no excuse for no-lan play, no excuse for no mods, since these were some of the factors that made the previous game, and the overall H&S genre fan to play
last diablo i played local with a friend was diablo 1, must have been around 2000 ^^.... imo those times are over, we dont need no lan support or offline play for diablo, diablo is all about bnet, and imo THAT'S what made diablo diablo - one of the best online hack n slay games so far.
uh, and diablo DOES feature random dungeons (@some of the posts above)
Well, allow me to bring you to the reality of many ppl.
I only had internet connection (DSL) in 2003, when I go to my grandma house (in the sticks) there is no internet connection, I take my games with me and play them thro the night, since the Tv has nothing (like 4 channels) I like to take my laptop to a friends house and have fun with a few friends playing stuff like Titan Quest, Left4Dead, and many others all in lan co-op modes. And yes, me and my friends were very much looking forward for this with Diablo III. Its not that we can't get internet connections to play the game, but having to get internet connection to play a single player/lan game is ridiculous.
Keep hating Blizzard, no matter how good the games are.
Keep playing other games, however bad, so long as it is not Blizzard
Stay your way of classy.
See how stupid your moan sounds, it means just as empty if rephrased the other way round.
The funny part is, I played Diablo II, Warcraft series, WoW, and SC2, and I loved all of them.
Doesn't mean I have to go all fanboy and support every action when I see a game taking a direction that is obviously not for the best of the gamers, and will produce a lower quality game.
There is no excuse for no offline play, no excuse for no-lan play, no excuse for no mods, since these were some of the factors that made the previous game, and the overall H&S genre fan to play
there is an excuse for no offline play:
everything is on their end, server side. which is a blessing IMO. i wont have to worry about losing my character in the event of a computer failure.
also, to combat piracy. pretty sure WoW hasn't been pirated, that's the direction they're taking.
there is plenty of lan play. go to friends. plug into said friends internet via router. log into diablo 3. make game. play co-op. enjoy LAN party.
this game wont need mods. i'll be too busy grinding gear for arena to waste my time in another game.
pretty sure Diablo 2 made Diablo 2 and the H&S genre fun to play. mods didn't.
what's next, people complaining they can't play diablo 3 during power outages? natural disasters? during nuclear war? while traveling to mars?
Keep hating Blizzard, no matter how good the games are.
Keep playing other games, however bad, so long as it is not Blizzard
Stay your way of classy.
See how stupid your moan sounds, it means just as empty if rephrased the other way round.
The funny part is, I played Diablo II, Warcraft series, WoW, and SC2, and I loved all of them.
Doesn't mean I have to go all fanboy and support every action when I see a game taking a direction that is obviously not for the best of the gamers, and will produce a lower quality game.
There is no excuse for no offline play, no excuse for no-lan play, no excuse for no mods, since these were some of the factors that made the previous game, and the overall H&S genre fan to play
there is an excuse for no offline play:
everything is on their end, server side. which is a blessing IMO. i wont have to worry about losing my character in the event of a computer failure.
also, to combat piracy. pretty sure WoW hasn't been pirated, that's the direction they're taking.
there is plenty of lan play. go to friends. plug into said friends internet via router. log into diablo 3. make game. play co-op. enjoy LAN party.
this game wont need mods. i'll be too busy grinding gear for arena to waste my time in another game.
pretty sure Diablo 2 made Diablo 2 and the H&S genre fun to play. mods didn't.
what's next, people complaining they can't play diablo 3 during power outages? natural disasters? during nuclear war? while traveling to mars?
Piracy is a serious issue, I see the rationale for forcing online gameplay. It just hurts me as I play D3 mainly for solo dungeon crawling during travelling and odd moments, where finding a LAN cable is a hassle. If I have assess to the net, I have much better online games.
Fact is, I am playing Might and Magic 4+5 now on my laptop during my travels. I only post when I have easy WAN around airports or railway stations.
So I am disappointed with Blizzard, but I am not blaming them, I just have to pass on D3 for now.
Mod is another issue. Mods are the venue for collection of wisdom of everyone out there. Some mods are fantastic, most of them are sad stories. However, as time goes and the bad ones are abandoned, we will be able to see some of the best ones collected by fan sites for us to download. Which actually allows us to extend the playability of old dead games. I am still playing Oblivion with mods from Elderly Scroll Nexus site, thousands of mod each for 20+ categories. Imagine the fun of trying them all. There is more content from there than a full retail game.
It is Blizzard's game, they can build whatever they want, it is my money, I buy if it suits me.
Why are all you people complaining? If you're not going to buy the game you'll still be able to download a pirated version of the game, you'll probably even be able to play a pirated version of the game over lan, and everrrrrrryyyyoneeeeeee has the internets. They will probably implement an offline mode like they did with starcraft 2 shortly after release.
Why are all you people complaining? If you're not going to buy the game you'll still be able to download a pirated version of the game, you'll probably even be able to play a pirated version of the game over lan, and everrrrrrryyyyoneeeeeee has the internets. They will probably implement an offline mode like they did with starcraft 2 shortly after release.
Yeah, you are right there, but I do like to buy the games that I enjoy, if not only to support the companies. Like The Witcher 2, i downloaded a torrent and played the first chapter, then bought the game and played it all thro
Why are all you people complaining? If you're not going to buy the game you'll still be able to download a pirated version of the game, you'll probably even be able to play a pirated version of the game over lan, and everrrrrrryyyyoneeeeeee has the internets. They will probably implement an offline mode like they did with starcraft 2 shortly after release.
Well a priated version of D3 would be usless as it's all server based, If there was going to a SC2 style guest mode for single player it would be in the game now. Bottom line this is where all games are heading, we all need to get on board now or go find another interest.
Why are all you people complaining? If you're not going to buy the game you'll still be able to download a pirated version of the game, you'll probably even be able to play a pirated version of the game over lan, and everrrrrrryyyyoneeeeeee has the internets. They will probably implement an offline mode like they did with starcraft 2 shortly after release.
i highly doubt this game will be piratable. unless they steal an entire copy of the game code and recode it for single player. this game was built entirely around the idea that it was going to be online only, just like WoW. and wow hasn't been pirated.
i highly doubt this game will be piratable. unless they steal an entire copy of the game code and recode it for single player. this game was built entirely around the idea that it was going to be online only, just like WoW. and wow hasn't been pirated.
So,All those private wow servers are what, given special permission from blizzard? Oh and you can play them offline but I'm
i highly doubt this game will be piratable. unless they steal an entire copy of the game code and recode it for single player. this game was built entirely around the idea that it was going to be online only, just like WoW. and wow hasn't been pirated.
So,All those private wow servers are what, given special permission from blizzard? Oh and you can play them offline but I'm
sure they it's not pirated. J/k
you can log on to a private server and play wow offline? wow i want your internet connection!
besides, you're still required to own a bought copy of the game in order to gain access to those private servers.
since diablo is f2p, private servers are pointless, and probably impossible to keep stable, given the nature of diablo's game structure. wow has one world everyone logs into and plays on (per server, of course). and nearly all of them run unstable, at best.
diablo 3 has to create an entire game world for UP TO 4 people, spanning millions of players. doubt a private server operation could afford to pull off a server like that.
Its pretty naive to think that DIII wont be pirated just because the official version requires servers to play. Ofc it will be pirated, and it will be possible to play the game offline just like somone can play it as single player with 0 interaction from other players but connected to the battle.net servers.
i highly doubt this game will be piratable. unless they steal an entire copy of the game code and recode it for single player. this game was built entirely around the idea that it was going to be online only, just like WoW. and wow hasn't been pirated.
So,All those private wow servers are what, given special permission from blizzard? Oh and you can play them offline but I'm
sure they it's not pirated. J/k
Yes there are pirated wow servers, but they are not like the real thing, the guys who run the pirate servers do not have access to the quests etc in the real game. A pirated wow server is just the world & player(s) in it, loot, mobs, quests all need to be created and placed by the guy(s) running the pirate server. And you need to be online ofc.
I have no doubt some one will come up with on offline D3 but all you'll have access to are the local assets (art and sound), but as the content is all stored and saved server side I don't see the point.
In 2 to 3 years time we'll be wonder what the fuss was about being online.
Its pretty naive to think that DIII wont be pirated just because the official version requires servers to play. Ofc it will be pirated, and it will be possible to play the game offline just like somone can play it as single player with 0 interaction from other players but connected to the battle.net servers.
The quests/story, dungeon layout/generation, mob spawns, loot is all handled server side, as is character saves, storage and progress. Level data is not saved client side. The only stuff client side is art and sound.
The online requirment is not some last minute DRM that can be bypassed like it could in games same games.
You have as much chance of playing D3 offline as you do with WoW or any other MMO.
Why are all you people complaining? If you're not going to buy the game you'll still be able to download a pirated version of the game, you'll probably even be able to play a pirated version of the game over lan, and everrrrrrryyyyoneeeeeee has the internets. They will probably implement an offline mode like they did with starcraft 2 shortly after release.
Yeah, you are right there, but I do like to buy the games that I enjoy, if not only to support the companies. Like The Witcher 2, i downloaded a torrent and played the first chapter, then bought the game and played it all thro
If d3 didn't require a cd-key / account I wouldn't buy it, I'd just play the pirated version... same with Starcraft 2.. counterstrike.. all the games I play, but they all required purchase so I bought them. I don't know why all these people are complaining that blizzard has lost its touch with its fanbase, because at the end of the day, blizzard is a company that needs to make money, so making it all online was a good decision.
I'm willing to bet money that eventually all gaming companies will do something similar to this in order to maximize profits, which THEY SHOULD, as if you can play the exact same product without buying it then most people won't buy it. I can't play on private WoW servers because they all suck compared to the real thing, it'll be the same with D3...
Its pretty naive to think that DIII wont be pirated just because the official version requires servers to play. Ofc it will be pirated, and it will be possible to play the game offline just like somone can play it as single player with 0 interaction from other players but connected to the battle.net servers.
The quests/story, dungeon layout/generation, mob spawns, loot is all handled server side, as is character saves, storage and progress. Level data is not saved client side. The only stuff client side is art and sound.
The online requirment is not some last minute DRM that can be bypassed like it could in games same games.
You have as much chance of playing D3 offline as you do with WoW or any other MMO.
I didnt know this, but I think it good that they set it up similar to WoW. They are a company and companies need to make money.
Why are all you people complaining? If you're not going to buy the game you'll still be able to download a pirated version of the game, you'll probably even be able to play a pirated version of the game over lan, and everrrrrrryyyyoneeeeeee has the internets. They will probably implement an offline mode like they did with starcraft 2 shortly after release.
Why are all you people complaining? If you're not going to buy the game you'll still be able to download a pirated version of the game, you'll probably even be able to play a pirated version of the game over lan, and everrrrrrryyyyoneeeeeee has the internets. They will probably implement an offline mode like they did with starcraft 2 shortly after release.
i highly doubt this game will be piratable. unless they steal an entire copy of the game code and recode it for single player. this game was built entirely around the idea that it was going to be online only, just like WoW. and wow hasn't been pirated.
There are private servers, though that is a very different thing altogether.
Its pretty naive to think that DIII wont be pirated just because the official version requires servers to play. Ofc it will be pirated, and it will be possible to play the game offline just like somone can play it as single player with 0 interaction from other players but connected to the battle.net servers.
How do you pirate it? Recode it or just copy it and add a crackfile?
Its pretty naive to think that DIII wont be pirated just because the official version requires servers to play. Ofc it will be pirated, and it will be possible to play the game offline just like somone can play it as single player with 0 interaction from other players but connected to the battle.net servers.
The quests/story, dungeon layout/generation, mob spawns, loot is all handled server side, as is character saves, storage and progress. Level data is not saved client side. The only stuff client side is art and sound.
The online requirment is not some last minute DRM that can be bypassed like it could in games same games.
You have as much chance of playing D3 offline as you do with WoW or any other MMO.
I didnt know this, but I think it good that they set it up similar to WoW. They are a company and companies need to make money.
The architecture of the 100+ WoW servers and that of the D3 "server" is totally different.
That said, it is very understandable that Blizzard want to curb piracy as far as they can.
people fail to realise that 80% of tl sales were from mass discounted sales on steam and similar, where game was up for 5$ and less.. you can say game sold 300k with 20$ price tag and then another 700k with 5$ because it was on sale 24/7 , and then they went saying look at us 1mln sales.. ( no clue how much by now )
there are many small games who sold big numbers for low price.. that doesnt exactly makes it super hit game
personally tl was great game, but i never finished it. i found it terribly boring every time i attempted to play it.. it was dull blank , without any fire to light it
i hope it wont be same for tl2.. but considering its exactly same + mp + outdoor ( which is just same zones thats outdoor doesnt change thing ) i dont have big hopes
People that play MMORPG's complain ... that Diablo3 needs ... An on line connection to be played ... ?
Did you complain GW1 needed an internet connection? Did you complain LOL needs an internet connection ?
And Diablo has more on line rpg elements than these 2 games ...
Players will earn real hard cash money playing a video game ... Forget MMO's as we knew them. We no longer talk fake isk, silver, gold or any other virtual conversion. As from 2012 players will talk dollars, euros and yen.
Poker time with fake chips is out, video gaming to earn real money will be so hot, it will take the markets by storm. No longer the makers will sell their gear, the players will be the sellers and earn money.
Hmm hardcore modes, real player economies. On line play as it should be played: the tension of real cash at stake. Tx Blizzard, to put out hardcore at its core.
you will hardly be able to make enough money to do anything with really other than buy and sell items in game. with a set amount of transactions you can make on the RMAH per week your chances of making a living off diablo 3 are probably worse than getting struck by lightning.
look at diablo 2, compare that list with diablo 3 taking into account that everyone and their mother has internet (doesnt mean you have to play with other people)
Basically your definition of greed is retailing a triple A game at the normal price verses an Indie game at 20, yes torchlight is very similar but alot of features in D3 that are not in Torchlight2, and i think the other main word in this arguement would end up being POLISH
My definition of greed is DESTROYING your product for a few extra bucks.
Diablo 2 has more features than Diablo 3 has, simply because they want more MONEY from diablo 3. The removal of offline play is somehow connected with piracy, but pirates will ALWAYS find a way around anti-piracy measures. Meaning that only people who legitimately purchase diablo 3 will be hurt by this, and NOT the pirates.
Blizzard have, indeed, fallen VERY far since Diablo II.
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Keep hating Blizzard, no matter how good the games are.
Keep playing other games, however bad, so long as it is not Blizzard
Stay your way of classy.
See how stupid your moan sounds, it means just as empty if rephrased the other way round.
The funny part is, I played Diablo II, Warcraft series, WoW, and SC2, and I loved all of them.
Doesn't mean I have to go all fanboy and support every action when I see a game taking a direction that is obviously not for the best of the gamers, and will produce a lower quality game.
There is no excuse for no offline play, no excuse for no-lan play, no excuse for no mods, since these were some of the factors that made the previous game, and the overall H&S genre fan to play
"I am not a robot. I am a unicorn."
last diablo i played local with a friend was diablo 1, must have been around 2000 ^^.... imo those times are over, we dont need no lan support or offline play for diablo, diablo is all about bnet, and imo THAT'S what made diablo diablo - one of the best online hack n slay games so far.
uh, and diablo DOES feature random dungeons (@some of the posts above)
"I'll never grow up, never grow up, never grow up! Not me!"
Well, allow me to bring you to the reality of many ppl.
I only had internet connection (DSL) in 2003, when I go to my grandma house (in the sticks) there is no internet connection, I take my games with me and play them thro the night, since the Tv has nothing (like 4 channels) I like to take my laptop to a friends house and have fun with a few friends playing stuff like Titan Quest, Left4Dead, and many others all in lan co-op modes. And yes, me and my friends were very much looking forward for this with Diablo III. Its not that we can't get internet connections to play the game, but having to get internet connection to play a single player/lan game is ridiculous.
"I am not a robot. I am a unicorn."
there is an excuse for no offline play:
everything is on their end, server side. which is a blessing IMO. i wont have to worry about losing my character in the event of a computer failure.
also, to combat piracy. pretty sure WoW hasn't been pirated, that's the direction they're taking.
there is plenty of lan play. go to friends. plug into said friends internet via router. log into diablo 3. make game. play co-op. enjoy LAN party.
this game wont need mods. i'll be too busy grinding gear for arena to waste my time in another game.
pretty sure Diablo 2 made Diablo 2 and the H&S genre fun to play. mods didn't.
what's next, people complaining they can't play diablo 3 during power outages? natural disasters? during nuclear war? while traveling to mars?
If I was travelling to mars I would make sure I had a few games to play
"I am not a robot. I am a unicorn."
Piracy is a serious issue, I see the rationale for forcing online gameplay. It just hurts me as I play D3 mainly for solo dungeon crawling during travelling and odd moments, where finding a LAN cable is a hassle. If I have assess to the net, I have much better online games.
Fact is, I am playing Might and Magic 4+5 now on my laptop during my travels. I only post when I have easy WAN around airports or railway stations.
So I am disappointed with Blizzard, but I am not blaming them, I just have to pass on D3 for now.
Mod is another issue. Mods are the venue for collection of wisdom of everyone out there. Some mods are fantastic, most of them are sad stories. However, as time goes and the bad ones are abandoned, we will be able to see some of the best ones collected by fan sites for us to download. Which actually allows us to extend the playability of old dead games. I am still playing Oblivion with mods from Elderly Scroll Nexus site, thousands of mod each for 20+ categories. Imagine the fun of trying them all. There is more content from there than a full retail game.
It is Blizzard's game, they can build whatever they want, it is my money, I buy if it suits me.
Why are all you people complaining? If you're not going to buy the game you'll still be able to download a pirated version of the game, you'll probably even be able to play a pirated version of the game over lan, and everrrrrrryyyyoneeeeeee has the internets. They will probably implement an offline mode like they did with starcraft 2 shortly after release.
Yeah, you are right there, but I do like to buy the games that I enjoy, if not only to support the companies. Like The Witcher 2, i downloaded a torrent and played the first chapter, then bought the game and played it all thro
"I am not a robot. I am a unicorn."
Well a priated version of D3 would be usless as it's all server based, If there was going to a SC2 style guest mode for single player it would be in the game now. Bottom line this is where all games are heading, we all need to get on board now or go find another interest.
i highly doubt this game will be piratable. unless they steal an entire copy of the game code and recode it for single player. this game was built entirely around the idea that it was going to be online only, just like WoW. and wow hasn't been pirated.
So,All those private wow servers are what, given special permission from blizzard? Oh and you can play them offline but I'm
sure they it's not pirated. J/k
you can log on to a private server and play wow offline? wow i want your internet connection!
besides, you're still required to own a bought copy of the game in order to gain access to those private servers.
since diablo is f2p, private servers are pointless, and probably impossible to keep stable, given the nature of diablo's game structure. wow has one world everyone logs into and plays on (per server, of course). and nearly all of them run unstable, at best.
diablo 3 has to create an entire game world for UP TO 4 people, spanning millions of players. doubt a private server operation could afford to pull off a server like that.
Its pretty naive to think that DIII wont be pirated just because the official version requires servers to play. Ofc it will be pirated, and it will be possible to play the game offline just like somone can play it as single player with 0 interaction from other players but connected to the battle.net servers.
"I am not a robot. I am a unicorn."
Yes there are pirated wow servers, but they are not like the real thing, the guys who run the pirate servers do not have access to the quests etc in the real game. A pirated wow server is just the world & player(s) in it, loot, mobs, quests all need to be created and placed by the guy(s) running the pirate server. And you need to be online ofc.
I have no doubt some one will come up with on offline D3 but all you'll have access to are the local assets (art and sound), but as the content is all stored and saved server side I don't see the point.
In 2 to 3 years time we'll be wonder what the fuss was about being online.
The quests/story, dungeon layout/generation, mob spawns, loot is all handled server side, as is character saves, storage and progress. Level data is not saved client side. The only stuff client side is art and sound.
The online requirment is not some last minute DRM that can be bypassed like it could in games same games.
You have as much chance of playing D3 offline as you do with WoW or any other MMO.
If d3 didn't require a cd-key / account I wouldn't buy it, I'd just play the pirated version... same with Starcraft 2.. counterstrike.. all the games I play, but they all required purchase so I bought them. I don't know why all these people are complaining that blizzard has lost its touch with its fanbase, because at the end of the day, blizzard is a company that needs to make money, so making it all online was a good decision.
I'm willing to bet money that eventually all gaming companies will do something similar to this in order to maximize profits, which THEY SHOULD, as if you can play the exact same product without buying it then most people won't buy it. I can't play on private WoW servers because they all suck compared to the real thing, it'll be the same with D3...
I didnt know this, but I think it good that they set it up similar to WoW. They are a company and companies need to make money.
I wonder if you are serious.
There are private servers, though that is a very different thing altogether.
How do you pirate it? Recode it or just copy it and add a crackfile?
The architecture of the 100+ WoW servers and that of the D3 "server" is totally different.
That said, it is very understandable that Blizzard want to curb piracy as far as they can.
people fail to realise that 80% of tl sales were from mass discounted sales on steam and similar, where game was up for 5$ and less.. you can say game sold 300k with 20$ price tag and then another 700k with 5$ because it was on sale 24/7 , and then they went saying look at us 1mln sales.. ( no clue how much by now )
there are many small games who sold big numbers for low price.. that doesnt exactly makes it super hit game
personally tl was great game, but i never finished it. i found it terribly boring every time i attempted to play it.. it was dull blank , without any fire to light it
i hope it wont be same for tl2.. but considering its exactly same + mp + outdoor ( which is just same zones thats outdoor doesnt change thing ) i dont have big hopes
you will hardly be able to make enough money to do anything with really other than buy and sell items in game. with a set amount of transactions you can make on the RMAH per week your chances of making a living off diablo 3 are probably worse than getting struck by lightning.
Blizzard already has a lot of money.