I played on Baja, starting in late '97... I still remember coming home with the box.
Yew was my home, until I ended up trading my house, my guild, and most of my money for a bottle of Jack Daniels on my birthday.
----------------------------- Listen Asmodeeus, seven years ago, Ultima Online didn't even have those pathetic "quests" that you refer to or those "professions" of ninja, samurai, necromancer, and paladin. Nor did it have any of the neon crap, or bug mounts. It didn't even have any "combat moves." You turned on attack and jousted with simplistic swings. It was a better game then. if you can't guess why then just uninstall the thing and move along. - Crabby
Originally posted by Ferox(SM) I wanted to take a roll call of any old Uo vets like myself on the forums, and perhaps talk about the glory days of the best mmorpg ever made so far.I was working at electronics botique the day it came out(yeah im old!), I actually opened the shipment box and took the very first copy for myself haha, I couldnt wait to get home that night and play. I played mostly on atlantic, but did a short stint on catskills.I have fond memories of running into the shadowclan ork roleplayers, who swarmed the land killing everything and everyone. The drow who hid among the trees in the woods south of Yew and demanded you pay a toll for going through their woods or else they killed you.Another great memory is learning how to NOT take the roads and avoid all the people out there who would attack you on site, never since in a mmo have I experienced such a rush and tense excitment when I was traveling.My fondest memory however is of my first small thatch house on Yew bay. I had it right on the water and my first boat was anchored right at the shoreline. My friends and i would hang out, play chess, spar to work on our weapon skills, cut down trees and make bows,arrows, and furniture. Every once in a while a group of pkers would come by and there would be a nice fight or two. When we felt like it we would jump in our ship and go out to fight sea serpants and water elementals, or we traveled to the dungeon se of yew, but that was a rare occurance, because I was sick of dungeons even back then. No other mmorpg since then has come close, im still waiting for that next "UO", im thinking Darkfall and Roma Victor will take up the torch and give us another virtual society that has not been seen since UO.
Glory days? Everyone running around as a tank mage was glory days? I played then, and frankly I got tired of day after day having to play my tank mage if I didn't want to get ganked by a group of jerkoff's that I apparently looked at wrong and had no issue with getting a peice of me. I finally got tired of it and started hunting PK's just to try to get some satisfaction out of having to play a single toon day in and day out. Loved my bard, never got to use him because of the idiots that would take my kills while I had 2 mobs fighting each other, or kill me. Had a ton of toons, all I ever got to use was my GM Smith and my 6x Tank Mage. I played on atlantic for years and I finally left because I got tired of it. I also worked with Xena Dragon for abit on UO Stratics.
Fact is if any other MMO had the faults UO did at the time in it, they would be slayed without mercy publically for the failings in the game. Gross character imbalance. There were certain skills in game that if you took would make you excessively more powerful then others. Bugs ran rampant in that game, I remember 2 different phone conversations with OSI trying to get an answer out of them on when they were gonna get their act together and fix some of the gamestopping bugs, Such as the the graphics update for the 2d client after t2A. I remember getting attacked by stealth mobs for months after that patch went live, OSI was in no hurry to get it fixed. Lets see, you had jerks that could use the airmore trick to get in your house through the wall and clean you out and all OSI could say is "there is nothing we can do about it". Actually, I remember them saying that for just about everything. The standards UO didn't live up too are ones that today with any game coming out would kill a game before it ever hit the shelf. SOE gets raked over the coals time and time again for things that OSI got away with for years because the playerbase was so loyal.
UO is the pioneer of the concept of beta testing on the public in a pay to play game. I have very fond memories of UO as well, but they are of the people that I was with . UO DID inspire great roleplay and strong friendships and thats the part I miss in an MMO now. I remember the excitement at first of avoiding PK's and such when I was young in the game. However after about the 20th kill and having to buy all new stuff yet again that excitement turned into nothing but stress. I felt like I was working so someone else could enjoy the fruits of my labors.
I probably am coming off really harsh on this but your topic name grated me. The "carebear" term to me is rather rediculous and I generally find gankers are the ones that like to use it the most. And the ones that complain about it not being "carebear" anymore are generally those that are sore because they can't gank everyone in the game anymore, only those that choose to come face them, at even odds or those willing to accept the possible loss. The PvP lands are still there, everyone can go risk their necks anytime they want, they just can't do it to those that don't want that level of drama in their gameplay.
- Scaris
"What happened to you, Star Wars Galaxies? You used to look like Leia. Not quite gold bikini Leia (more like bad-British-accent-and-cinnamon-bun-hair Leia), but still Leia nonetheless. Now you look like Chewbacca." - Computer Gaming World
Sounds like SOMEONE got ganked afew too many times hahaha.....
Dude , thats Carebear talk right there . Generally , after the first few deaths people get smart , start going out of town in groups , hunting in populated areas & keeping clear of roads n pathways . Things to keep you away and hidden from PKs.
This was one of the main attractions for me to UO , the FEAR of being ganked , not trusting anyone as when you least expect it they can put a knife in your back! Murderers and Theives around every corner! And when your being persued by several PKs , death is immenint and your heart is pounding as your triyng to flee for your life and make it back into a guard zone..... well thats what UO was all about!
UOs PVP nowdays is just bleh , i mean , EVERYONE who goes into fel to PVP Insures all their good gear , only takes stuff they are willing to loose , thieves are able to steal nothing other than regents and bandages. And you know why , people like you , you might think "Hey its not my fault"
But when Carebears gather in numbers and have a big enough CRY for EA to hear , well they'll just F#CK the whole game.
It sickens me to see that you come here , after all this time , and post in a thread about appreciatiing UO the SAME THINGS that made the game what it is today , no offence
Originally posted by GoDGuY Sounds like SOMEONE got ganked afew too many times hahaha..... Dude , thats Carebear talk right there . Generally , after the first few deaths people get smart , start going out of town in groups , hunting in populated areas & keeping clear of roads n pathways . Things to keep you away and hidden from PKs. This was one of the main attractions for me to UO , the FEAR of being ganked , not trusting anyone as when you least expect it they can put a knife in your back! Murderers and Theives around every corner! And when your being persued by several PKs , death is immenint and your heart is pounding as your triyng to flee for your life and make it back into a guard zone..... well thats what UO was all about! UOs PVP nowdays is just bleh , i mean , EVERYONE who goes into fel to PVP Insures all their good gear , only takes stuff they are willing to loose , thieves are able to steal nothing other than regents and bandages. And you know why , people like you , you might think "Hey its not my fault" But when Carebears gather in numbers and have a big enough CRY for EA to hear , well they'll just F#CK the whole game. It sickens me to see that you come here , after all this time , and post in a thread about appreciatiing UO the SAME THINGS that made the game what it is today , no offence
I don't think you even read my post. Did my time in PvP, won most the time without issue since most gankers don't actually know how to PvP themselves, they just know how to gank.
And had you read it fully you would see that most of what you said, I already answered before you bothered to type it.
- Scaris
"What happened to you, Star Wars Galaxies? You used to look like Leia. Not quite gold bikini Leia (more like bad-British-accent-and-cinnamon-bun-hair Leia), but still Leia nonetheless. Now you look like Chewbacca." - Computer Gaming World
Originally posted by GoDGuY Sounds like SOMEONE got ganked afew too many times hahaha..... Dude , thats Carebear talk right there . Generally , after the first few deaths people get smart , start going out of town in groups , hunting in populated areas & keeping clear of roads n pathways . Things to keep you away and hidden from PKs. This was one of the main attractions for me to UO , the FEAR of being ganked , not trusting anyone as when you least expect it they can put a knife in your back! Murderers and Theives around every corner! And when your being persued by several PKs , death is immenint and your heart is pounding as your triyng to flee for your life and make it back into a guard zone..... well thats what UO was all about! UOs PVP nowdays is just bleh , i mean , EVERYONE who goes into fel to PVP Insures all their good gear , only takes stuff they are willing to loose , thieves are able to steal nothing other than regents and bandages. And you know why , people like you , you might think "Hey its not my fault" But when Carebears gather in numbers and have a big enough CRY for EA to hear , well they'll just F#CK the whole game. It sickens me to see that you come here , after all this time , and post in a thread about appreciatiing UO the SAME THINGS that made the game what it is today , no offence
And there's the kill-whore talk right there. Yep, people didn't like being utterly helpless against being ganked by people whose only advantage was that they were ten levels higher. Imagine that. So they left. So the game had to change because nobody but the handful of kill-whores who had already levelled wanted to play it. And it did. And now the only people who enter PvP are *prepared*! Horrors! Now you can't score acres of good loot while also preventing your victims from levelling so that they can defend themselves! Well, console yourself with glories of days gone by. The rest of us who never got off on ganking helpless newbies are having a fine time, thank you very much.
Originally posted by DeathWolf2u You people out here that think you're some kind of 133t tard in these MMORPG's come visit me in any of the Battlefield series but mainly Battlefield 2 and I guarentee I'll mop the floor with your guts.
Already have...and outside someone else having the exact same name..and with a name like that unlikely...Dude..you suck.
But then, there always will be a gap between a good pubbie and a competition player..
I played from Nov 3, 1997 to AOS. I played off an on after that but, without player skill based pvp it just sucked. I never saw anyone I remembered being good after AOS. I think some went to AC. It was funny seeing all the newbs that aquired artifacts calling people trammies when that is exactly what they were before AOS.
Your mind is like a parachute, it's only useful when it's open. Don't forget, you can use the block function on trolls.
Originally posted by GoDGuY Sounds like SOMEONE got ganked afew too many times hahaha..... Dude , thats Carebear talk right there . Generally , after the first few deaths people get smart , start going out of town in groups , hunting in populated areas & keeping clear of roads n pathways . Things to keep you away and hidden from PKs. This was one of the main attractions for me to UO , the FEAR of being ganked , not trusting anyone as when you least expect it they can put a knife in your back! Murderers and Theives around every corner! And when your being persued by several PKs , death is immenint and your heart is pounding as your triyng to flee for your life and make it back into a guard zone..... well thats what UO was all about! UOs PVP nowdays is just bleh , i mean , EVERYONE who goes into fel to PVP Insures all their good gear , only takes stuff they are willing to loose , thieves are able to steal nothing other than regents and bandages. And you know why , people like you , you might think "Hey its not my fault" But when Carebears gather in numbers and have a big enough CRY for EA to hear , well they'll just F#CK the whole game. It sickens me to see that you come here , after all this time , and post in a thread about appreciatiing UO the SAME THINGS that made the game what it is today , no offence
And there's the kill-whore talk right there. Yep, people didn't like being utterly helpless against being ganked by people whose only advantage was that they were ten levels higher. Imagine that. So they left. So the game had to change because nobody but the handful of kill-whores who had already levelled wanted to play it. And it did. And now the only people who enter PvP are *prepared*! Horrors! Now you can't score acres of good loot while also preventing your victims from levelling so that they can defend themselves! Well, console yourself with glories of days gone by. The rest of us who never got off on ganking helpless newbies are having a fine time, thank you very much.
Chris mattern
um.... theres no levels in UO.. did you even play it?
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Originally posted by Fadeus Originally posted by Ferox(SM) I wanted to take a roll call of any old Uo vets like myself on the forums, and perhaps talk about the glory days of the best mmorpg ever made so far.I was working at electronics botique the day it came out(yeah im old!), I actually opened the shipment box and took the very first copy for myself haha, I couldnt wait to get home that night and play. I played mostly on atlantic, but did a short stint on catskills.I have fond memories of running into the shadowclan ork roleplayers, who swarmed the land killing everything and everyone. The drow who hid among the trees in the woods south of Yew and demanded you pay a toll for going through their woods or else they killed you.Another great memory is learning how to NOT take the roads and avoid all the people out there who would attack you on site, never since in a mmo have I experienced such a rush and tense excitment when I was traveling.My fondest memory however is of my first small thatch house on Yew bay. I had it right on the water and my first boat was anchored right at the shoreline. My friends and i would hang out, play chess, spar to work on our weapon skills, cut down trees and make bows,arrows, and furniture. Every once in a while a group of pkers would come by and there would be a nice fight or two. When we felt like it we would jump in our ship and go out to fight sea serpants and water elementals, or we traveled to the dungeon se of yew, but that was a rare occurance, because I was sick of dungeons even back then. No other mmorpg since then has come close, im still waiting for that next "UO", im thinking Darkfall and Roma Victor will take up the torch and give us another virtual society that has not been seen since UO.
Glory days? Everyone running around as a tank mage was glory days? I played then, and frankly I got tired of day after day having to play my tank mage if I didn't want to get ganked by a group of jerkoff's that I apparently looked at wrong and had no issue with getting a peice of me. I finally got tired of it and started hunting PK's just to try to get some satisfaction out of having to play a single toon day in and day out. Loved my bard, never got to use him because of the idiots that would take my kills while I had 2 mobs fighting each other, or kill me. Had a ton of toons, all I ever got to use was my GM Smith and my 6x Tank Mage. I played on atlantic for years and I finally left because I got tired of it. I also worked with Xena Dragon for abit on UO Stratics.
Fact is if any other MMO had the faults UO did at the time in it, they would be slayed without mercy publically for the failings in the game. Gross character imbalance. There were certain skills in game that if you took would make you excessively more powerful then others. Bugs ran rampant in that game, I remember 2 different phone conversations with OSI trying to get an answer out of them on when they were gonna get their act together and fix some of the gamestopping bugs, Such as the the graphics update for the 2d client after t2A. I remember getting attacked by stealth mobs for months after that patch went live, OSI was in no hurry to get it fixed. Lets see, you had jerks that could use the airmore trick to get in your house through the wall and clean you out and all OSI could say is "there is nothing we can do about it". Actually, I remember them saying that for just about everything. The standards UO didn't live up too are ones that today with any game coming out would kill a game before it ever hit the shelf. SOE gets raked over the coals time and time again for things that OSI got away with for years because the playerbase was so loyal.
UO is the pioneer of the concept of beta testing on the public in a pay to play game. I have very fond memories of UO as well, but they are of the people that I was with . UO DID inspire great roleplay and strong friendships and thats the part I miss in an MMO now. I remember the excitement at first of avoiding PK's and such when I was young in the game. However after about the 20th kill and having to buy all new stuff yet again that excitement turned into nothing but stress. I felt like I was working so someone else could enjoy the fruits of my labors.
I probably am coming off really harsh on this but your topic name grated me. The "carebear" term to me is rather rediculous and I generally find gankers are the ones that like to use it the most. And the ones that complain about it not being "carebear" anymore are generally those that are sore because they can't gank everyone in the game anymore, only those that choose to come face them, at even odds or those willing to accept the possible loss. The PvP lands are still there, everyone can go risk their necks anytime they want, they just can't do it to those that don't want that level of drama in their gameplay.
Ehm.. you didnt HAVE to be a tank mage ALL skill combos had their streaghts and the weak points the Tank mage was just the EASY way to go in UO thats all .. not the best way just the easy way
lets do a quick list of combos that could destroy your generic tank mage pretty fast
Poisoners (the smart ones)
Archers / archer mages .. OUCH! the damage ..
Smart Dexxers during t2a and pre t2a
Theif mages / Theif dexxers .. OH NOSES WHERE ARE MY REGS!
Tamer/dexxers/mages .. ALL KILL+ insta hit from a high damage wep , anyone?
Originally posted by PsyX Ehm.. you didnt HAVE to be a tank mage ALL skill combos had their streaghts and the weak points the Tank mage was just the EASY way to go in UO thats all .. not the best way just the easy waylets do a quick list of combos that could destroy your generic tank mage pretty fastPoisoners (the smart ones)Archers / archer mages .. OUCH! the damage ..Smart Dexxers during t2a and pre t2a Theif mages / Theif dexxers .. OH NOSES WHERE ARE MY REGS!Tamer/dexxers/mages .. ALL KILL+ insta hit from a high damage wep , anyone? Trappers Some Bards (when peace/provo worked vs players)i could go on and on.. but ..
A tank mage could use poison just like anyone else. Invalid point, whats good for one in that effect is good for all.
I would eat an archer for lunch, as well as a dex bunny fencer. Sorry, but your techniques may have worked for you with whatever oponents you picked however I had no issue handing dex monkeys of any flavor. The only person I had problems with was a GM tamer that had a good dragon or White Worm.
Trappers? What are you talking about, paralyze? I hope not because that little trick was easily fixed with a few magic trapped bags in your inventory. Or are you referring to someone trapping chests? I never picked up a chest I didn't use telekenisis on first.
Theives? Umm, IF he actually had time to pick my pockets before I was on him he would have had a hard time finding reags where there appeared to be none. Reags were usually in a small pouch hid under my spellbook which at the time made them innaccesible unless you were hacking because a spellbook wouldn't move for a second like anything else when you tried to move something that you werent allowed too. Once agan however, planning would have taken care of that anyways, always keep a few scrolls elsewhere in your bags.
Bard? Are you kidding me, what no talent were you fighting?
Are you sure you played the game back then?
- Scaris
"What happened to you, Star Wars Galaxies? You used to look like Leia. Not quite gold bikini Leia (more like bad-British-accent-and-cinnamon-bun-hair Leia), but still Leia nonetheless. Now you look like Chewbacca." - Computer Gaming World
Originally posted by PsyX Ehm.. you didnt HAVE to be a tank mage ALL skill combos had their streaghts and the weak points the Tank mage was just the EASY way to go in UO thats all .. not the best way just the easy way
lets do a quick list of combos that could destroy your generic tank mage pretty fast Poisoners (the smart ones) Archers / archer mages .. OUCH! the damage .. Smart Dexxers during t2a and pre t2a Theif mages / Theif dexxers .. OH NOSES WHERE ARE MY REGS! Tamer/dexxers/mages .. ALL KILL+ insta hit from a high damage wep , anyone? Trappers Some Bards (when peace/provo worked vs players) i could go on and on.. but ..
A tank mage could use poison just like anyone else. Invalid point, whats good for one in that effect is good for all.
I would eat an archer for lunch, as well as a dex bunny fencer. Sorry, but your techniques may have worked for you with whatever oponents you picked however I had no issue handing dex monkeys of any flavor. The only person I had problems with was a GM tamer that had a good dragon or White Worm.
Trappers? What are you talking about, magic trap? I hope not because that little trick was easily fixed with a few magic trapped bags in your inventory.
Theives? Umm, IF he actually had time to pick my pockets before I was on him he would have had a hard time finding reags where there appeared to be none. Reags were usually in a small pouch hid under my spellbook which at the time made them innaccesible unless you were hacking because a spellbook wouldn't move for a second like anything else when you tried to move something that you werent allowed too. Once agan however, planning would have taken care of that anyways, always keep a few scrolls elsewhere in your bags.
Bard? Are you kidding me, what no talent were you fighting?
Are you sure you played the game back then?
When I played White wurms were not in game so Now that you know what Era I speak of.
Never once did I lose to a Tank mage.
Thf/Swords/Archery, and I had a alt GM alc/pois so obviously my weapons were Deadly poisoned pretty much all the time. It all boiled down to tactics...most tank mages I ran into had none. But then, I never went out of my way to gank people..that was cheap to me. I would find high karma/fame people outside of town and steal crap out of their bag until they attacked me..Difference between me and most thf..I didnt steal and run..I would sit there and taunt them until they attacked. wasnt any fun just trying to take stuff and run..
Originally posted by Fadeus Originally posted by PsyX Ehm.. you didnt HAVE to be a tank mage ALL skill combos had their streaghts and the weak points the Tank mage was just the EASY way to go in UO thats all .. not the best way just the easy waylets do a quick list of combos that could destroy your generic tank mage pretty fastPoisoners (the smart ones)Archers / archer mages .. OUCH! the damage ..Smart Dexxers during t2a and pre t2a Theif mages / Theif dexxers .. OH NOSES WHERE ARE MY REGS!Tamer/dexxers/mages .. ALL KILL+ insta hit from a high damage wep , anyone? Trappers Some Bards (when peace/provo worked vs players)i could go on and on.. but ..
A tank mage could use poison just like anyone else. Invalid point, whats good for one in that effect is good for all.
I would eat an archer for lunch, as well as a dex bunny fencer. Sorry, but your techniques may have worked for you with whatever oponents you picked however I had no issue handing dex monkeys of any flavor. The only person I had problems with was a GM tamer that had a good dragon or White Worm.
Trappers? What are you talking about, paralyze? I hope not because that little trick was easily fixed with a few magic trapped bags in your inventory. Or are you referring to someone trapping chests? I never picked up a chest I didn't use telekenisis on first.
Theives? Umm, IF he actually had time to pick my pockets before I was on him he would have had a hard time finding reags where there appeared to be none. Reags were usually in a small pouch hid under my spellbook which at the time made them innaccesible unless you were hacking because a spellbook wouldn't move for a second like anything else when you tried to move something that you werent allowed too. Once agan however, planning would have taken care of that anyways, always keep a few scrolls elsewhere in your bags.
Bard? Are you kidding me, what no talent were you fighting?
Are you sure you played the game back then?
bards - "you here (cant remmber) and forgett to continue fighting" way to mess up peoples insta hit comobs since they get tabbed out and cant tab in for # secs /peacemaking
Originally posted by Dekoth Originally posted by FadeusOriginally posted by PsyXEhm.. you didnt HAVE to be a tank mage ALL skill combos had their streaghts and the weak pointsthe Tank mage was just the EASY way to go in UO thats all .. not the best way just the easy waylets do a quick list of combos that could destroy your generic tank mage pretty fast Poisoners (the smart ones) Archers / archer mages .. OUCH! the damage .. Smart Dexxers during t2a and pre t2a Theif mages / Theif dexxers .. OH NOSES WHERE ARE MY REGS! Tamer/dexxers/mages .. ALL KILL+ insta hit from a high damage wep , anyone? Trappers Some Bards (when peace/provo worked vs players) i could go on and on.. but .. A tank mage could use poison just like anyone else. Invalid point, whats good for one in that effect is good for all. I would eat an archer for lunch, as well as a dex bunny fencer. Sorry, but your techniques may have worked for you with whatever oponents you picked however I had no issue handing dex monkeys of any flavor. The only person I had problems with was a GM tamer that had a good dragon or White Worm. Trappers? What are you talking about, magic trap? I hope not because that little trick was easily fixed with a few magic trapped bags in your inventory. Theives? Umm, IF he actually had time to pick my pockets before I was on him he would have had a hard time finding reags where there appeared to be none. Reags were usually in a small pouch hid under my spellbook which at the time made them innaccesible unless you were hacking because a spellbook wouldn't move for a second like anything else when you tried to move something that you werent allowed too. Once agan however, planning would have taken care of that anyways, always keep a few scrolls elsewhere in your bags. Bard? Are you kidding me, what no talent were you fighting? Are you sure you played the game back then? When I played White wurms were not in game so Now that you know what Era I speak of. Never once did I lose to a Tank mage. Thf/Swords/Archery, and I had a alt GM alc/pois so obviously my weapons were Deadly poisoned pretty much all the time. It all boiled down to tactics...most tank mages I ran into had none. But then, I never went out of my way to gank people..that was cheap to me. I would find high karma/fame people outside of town and steal crap out of their bag until they attacked me..Difference between me and most thf..I didnt steal and run..I would sit there and taunt them until they attacked. wasnt any fun just trying to take stuff and run..
I never ganked at all, I was working on Glorious, was a few kills from here when I finally quit I think. I usually just ran guard dog with whatever group of friends I was with that generally didn't know the game well and would have got their backsides handed to them if some organized PK's came strolling through wanting their crappy loot just for the fun of causing some greif.
Dunno about your tactics against tank mages, I never had a problem with anyone other then a very good other tank mage or a tamer. And just to clarify when I started WW weren't in there either, but I did play longer then a year. And they came with t2a.
- Scaris
"What happened to you, Star Wars Galaxies? You used to look like Leia. Not quite gold bikini Leia (more like bad-British-accent-and-cinnamon-bun-hair Leia), but still Leia nonetheless. Now you look like Chewbacca." - Computer Gaming World
Originally posted by PsyX Originally posted by Fadeus Originally posted by PsyX Ehm.. you didnt HAVE to be a tank mage ALL skill combos had their streaghts and the weak points the Tank mage was just the EASY way to go in UO thats all .. not the best way just the easy waylets do a quick list of combos that could destroy your generic tank mage pretty fastPoisoners (the smart ones)Archers / archer mages .. OUCH! the damage ..Smart Dexxers during t2a and pre t2a Theif mages / Theif dexxers .. OH NOSES WHERE ARE MY REGS!Tamer/dexxers/mages .. ALL KILL+ insta hit from a high damage wep , anyone? Trappers Some Bards (when peace/provo worked vs players)i could go on and on.. but ..
A tank mage could use poison just like anyone else. Invalid point, whats good for one in that effect is good for all.
I would eat an archer for lunch, as well as a dex bunny fencer. Sorry, but your techniques may have worked for you with whatever oponents you picked however I had no issue handing dex monkeys of any flavor. The only person I had problems with was a GM tamer that had a good dragon or White Worm.
Trappers? What are you talking about, paralyze? I hope not because that little trick was easily fixed with a few magic trapped bags in your inventory. Or are you referring to someone trapping chests? I never picked up a chest I didn't use telekenisis on first.
Theives? Umm, IF he actually had time to pick my pockets before I was on him he would have had a hard time finding reags where there appeared to be none. Reags were usually in a small pouch hid under my spellbook which at the time made them innaccesible unless you were hacking because a spellbook wouldn't move for a second like anything else when you tried to move something that you werent allowed too. Once agan however, planning would have taken care of that anyways, always keep a few scrolls elsewhere in your bags.
Bard? Are you kidding me, what no talent were you fighting?
Are you sure you played the game back then?
bards - "you here (cant remmber) and forgett to continue fighting" way to mess up peoples insta hit comobs since they get tabbed out and cant tab in for # secs /peacemaking
Tamer , NO FOLLOWER LIMIT U DUMB NEWB! TRY TO SURVIVE 5 DRAGONS EATING UR ASS
Dexxers - Fencing - Long spear - GM alchmy - Explo pot macro (you CANT survive dont even try) Macer - Q-staff-Destroy your gear
Mage Posion - PRE UO:R POISON DID NOT EFFECT THE POWER OF YOUR POISON SPELL hence GM poisoning dexxers Eat you for lunch
Geez.. you stupid generic hally mages never stop annoying the shit out of me..
Next time try speaking in some coherent language and maybe I will read it completely. A for mage poison, what about it? Was a semi worthless spell, I think everyone knows that. It had its fun in PvP however, was good for interrupts.
I think your completely out of hand at this point, making it up as you go along, I suppose you can run this little one man band of characters all at once to attack a person too?
And pre t2a Gm poison could be cleared by MAGIC you NEWB. Get your game straight. It wasn't til months AFTER t2a that gm poison could no longer be cleared by a mage.
So watch who your calling stupid. Its bad enough you focused on only one small part of my post and have completely taken it out of hand. And now you have resorted to personal insults because its all you have left. Your grabbing at straws, give it up.
- Scaris
"What happened to you, Star Wars Galaxies? You used to look like Leia. Not quite gold bikini Leia (more like bad-British-accent-and-cinnamon-bun-hair Leia), but still Leia nonetheless. Now you look like Chewbacca." - Computer Gaming World
Here we have 300 plus more post to this topic by people who think they know it all about UO and the stupid carebear topic.
Here is a reality check for you, UO SUCKS!
Most MMORPG's suck plain and simple and where in the world people are getting that it actually takes a player's skill to play these games especially with PvP is beyond me, are you people serious?????? Do any of you really know what a true hardcore gamer is and what true skill is?
From reading many of the 300 plus post the answer was all too obvious, the answer is NO!
A hardcore gamer is not someone who plays MMORPG's 24/7, sorry you are WRONG!
A hardcore gamer is someone very skilled behind the keyboard where that is the only thing you have to go on. No script programs, no exploits, no in game character skill, nothing, just you and your fingers on the keyboard and mouse. Tactical know how in these environments and true skill is what a real hardcore gamer is with many kills to prove it on the battlefield.
You're all a bunch of wimps, so many people I have met from online rpg games that are scared to death to play the REAL PvP games like the Battlefield series and the likes. So many people that have admitted to me in game that they have no skill in FPS online games at all.
The ones I'm talking about are the ones that think they are so skilled in PvP or whatever in MMORPG's but yet they are scared to death to come to the expert PvPer games. There are a few players that do and play both type of games like me but we are extremely rare. Nonetheless my point is made and if you missed it don't bother posting another 300 post of moronic come backs because I will not come back here to read replies or whatever since those uneducated opinions do not even concern me in the least.
The only way to prove yourself to me is on the battlefield B----
Originally posted by DeathWolf2u Here we have 300 plus more post to this topic by people who think they know it all about UO and the stupid carebear topic. Here is a reality check for you, UO SUCKS! Most MMORPG's suck plain and simple and where in the world people are getting that it actually takes a player's skill to play these games especially with PvP is beyond me, are you people serious?????? Do any of you really know what a true hardcore gamer is and what true skill is? From reading many of the 300 plus post the answer was all too obvious, the answer is NO! A hardcore gamer is not someone who plays MMORPG's 24/7, sorry you are WRONG! A hardcore gamer is someone very skilled behind the keyboard where that is the only thing you have to go on. No script programs, no exploits, no in game character skill, nothing, just you and your fingers on the keyboard and mouse. Tactical know how in these environments and true skill is what a real hardcore gamer is with many kills to prove it on the battlefield. You're all a bunch of wimps, so many people I have met from online rpg games that are scared to death to play the REAL PvP games like the Battlefield series and the likes. So many people that have admitted to me in game that they have no skill in FPS online games at all. The ones I'm talking about are the ones that think they are so skilled in PvP or whatever in MMORPG's but yet they are scared to death to come to the expert PvPer games. There are a few players that do and play both type of games like me but we are extremely rare. Nonetheless my point is made and if you missed it don't bother posting another 300 post of moronic come backs because I will not come back here to read replies or whatever since those uneducated opinions do not even concern me in the least. The only way to prove yourself to me is on the battlefield B----
Do you have a clue? You're making some mighty bold assumptions that all anyone does here is play MMO's. And I would say thats a rather stupid assumption on your part. Wimps? You sound like a 10 year old saying "my game is better then your game".
So lets see, you just got Battlefield 2 and you think your the greatest thing since sliced bread huh? Well congratulations. Assume what you like about myself or anyone else heres gaming habit, your the one that ends up looking like the idiot.
- Scaris
"What happened to you, Star Wars Galaxies? You used to look like Leia. Not quite gold bikini Leia (more like bad-British-accent-and-cinnamon-bun-hair Leia), but still Leia nonetheless. Now you look like Chewbacca." - Computer Gaming World
Originally posted by DeathWolf2u Here we have 300 plus more post to this topic by people who think they know it all about UO and the stupid carebear topic. Here is a reality check for you, UO SUCKS! Most MMORPG's suck plain and simple and where in the world people are getting that it actually takes a player's skill to play these games especially with PvP is beyond me, are you people serious?????? Do any of you really know what a true hardcore gamer is and what true skill is? From reading many of the 300 plus post the answer was all too obvious, the answer is NO! A hardcore gamer is not someone who plays MMORPG's 24/7, sorry you are WRONG! A hardcore gamer is someone very skilled behind the keyboard where that is the only thing you have to go on. No script programs, no exploits, no in game character skill, nothing, just you and your fingers on the keyboard and mouse. Tactical know how in these environments and true skill is what a real hardcore gamer is with many kills to prove it on the battlefield. You're all a bunch of wimps, so many people I have met from online rpg games that are scared to death to play the REAL PvP games like the Battlefield series and the likes. So many people that have admitted to me in game that they have no skill in FPS online games at all. The ones I'm talking about are the ones that think they are so skilled in PvP or whatever in MMORPG's but yet they are scared to death to come to the expert PvPer games. There are a few players that do and play both type of games like me but we are extremely rare. Nonetheless my point is made and if you missed it don't bother posting another 300 post of moronic come backs because I will not come back here to read replies or whatever since those uneducated opinions do not even concern me in the least. The only way to prove yourself to me is on the battlefield B----
Apparently you missed my post about meeting you in BF2 and finding out you suck at it. Might want to scroll up and read it..because the guy I ran into while good for a random pubber...still sucked by competition standards..
On that note, I play both FPS style games and MMORPGs...PVP like early UO took not only skill but tactics..Most FPS only take the ability to twitch faster then your opponent. BF2 is an exception for the most part, it does have a fair element of Twitch in it, but there is a large amount of skill and tactics required..it is one of the FEW games in its genre that require that. On the whole, most FPS required Far less skill then UO did...
I never really got involved with the original UO. When I first played it I couldn't really stand the lag and so I kept up with what I was doing at the time, which was playing Gemstone III. It's text based but equal to old UO in immersiveness. The community was a lot more tame mind you but it was very much a freeform, realistic society. Later on I did play UO roughly a year after it came out on a free shard. Maybe it was the size of the world that helped but for about 4 months I was really sucked into the game and I would've played longer if they didn't wipe the servers and completely change the rulesets. Anyway, we had two guilds that maintained 80% of the most powerful players in the server and then I was the leader of a much larger guild (quantity wise) but typically a bunch of a noobs-mid level players as far as character strength. The world seemed to be ran very much similar to how UO was ran back in the day. UO offered the only times I can remember being PKed a few times and not minding because it felt like such a real world.
I'm looking forward to Dark and Light at the moment, followed by Hero's Journey (developed by Simutronics, the developer for Gemstone III)
Originally posted by Dekoth Apparently you missed my post about meeting you in BF2 and finding out you suck at it. Might want to scroll up and read it..because the guy I ran into while good for a random pubber...still sucked by competition standards.. On that note, I play both FPS style games and MMORPGs...PVP like early UO took not only skill but tactics..Most FPS only take the ability to twitch faster then your opponent. BF2 is an exception for the most part, it does have a fair element of Twitch in it, but there is a large amount of skill and tactics required..it is one of the FEW games in its genre that require that. On the whole, most FPS required Far less skill then UO did...
UO did take alot of tatics, that aspect of it was great. I had alot of fun just PvP'ing people that wanted to do it strictly for the challenge and not loot rights. We would practice and drill each other often. As I said, the most memorable parts of UO to me was the friends I had and the bonds that were formed in it over such things.
- Scaris
"What happened to you, Star Wars Galaxies? You used to look like Leia. Not quite gold bikini Leia (more like bad-British-accent-and-cinnamon-bun-hair Leia), but still Leia nonetheless. Now you look like Chewbacca." - Computer Gaming World
Originally posted by Dekoth Apparently you missed my post about meeting you in BF2 and finding out you suck at it. Might want to scroll up and read it..because the guy I ran into while good for a random pubber...still sucked by competition standards.. On that note, I play both FPS style games and MMORPGs...PVP like early UO took not only skill but tactics..Most FPS only take the ability to twitch faster then your opponent. BF2 is an exception for the most part, it does have a fair element of Twitch in it, but there is a large amount of skill and tactics required..it is one of the FEW games in its genre that require that. On the whole, most FPS required Far less skill then UO did...
UO did take alot of tatics, that aspect of it was great. I had alot of fun just PvP'ing people that wanted to do it strictly for the challenge and not loot rights. We would practice and drill each other often. As I said, the most memorable parts of UO to me was the friends I had and the bonds that were formed in it over such things.
Yea I know,
This kid is nothing more then then a glaring example of why people generally shun FPS type gamers. Typical add type personality, My game is better then yours, my <blank> is bigger then yours..pre-pubecent adolecent crap. I honestly doubt he is even old enough to have the faintest clue what we are talking about when we say old school UO, not the new garbage evolution it has turned into since the degradation of Trammel started.
This is why I play a variety of games, MMOs, FPS, Strategy, RPG. I personally like a variety, sometimes I like immersiveness but simple just to lose the stress of the day..sometimes I like to strategize and think, others I just want to blow things up.
UO was the greatest game ever. Sadly, no game has since taken it's place. The player freedom aspect of the game is what made it what it was. Sadly, that player freedom was torn from us because of the success of Everquest.
To this day I still play UO. Not OSI's sad watered-down version, but on player run servers where that sense of player freedom is still intact.
I never thought I would miss pre UOR days, and when UOR came out I was excited at the concept.
I just never had the patience for the gank squads of pre UOR days. It wasn't the duo PK's that really ever bothered me. I'd put up a good fight but ultimately got killed in the end.
I learned all the tricks to avoid PK's. Never participate in a bone wall. Which ironically most those people there deserved to be killed hourly.
Hiding became a necessary skill. Spent most my time working skills in T2A which was all but void of any PK action on Napa. Once my skills got to respectable levels joined up with a guild and started exploring the world in the group. The group sucked, I remember hunting at the Oasis and three pk's showed up...there were 13 of us! It was pathetic I stood my ground while the rest of the group all ran off in different directions. By that time in my UO life PK's didn't bother me. Once I realised my group wasn't as safe as I thought, I took up my DP kryss and defended myself till I was the last man standing.
Nearly killed one of em..keke.
UO was great back then. It was a stronger community. UOR turned UO into a single player game. Once I realised there wasnt anything I couldn't do with my mage I started losing interest.
My first trip to the lost lands, I wasn't but two days old. I was swept up by a couple players to hunt ophidians. They armed me and gave me some armor and off we went. Instructions were to run when told.
I ran, and was lost in the lost lands for two days. Pretty sad considering I now realize I was just a few screens north of papau, but I was a newb...and to make matters worse I was dead. So for two days I walked in endless circles.
The "vendor buy bank guards" macro confused me for a week. Couldn't figure out wtf they were trying to buy at the bank.
I made a character to goof around with my brother, named him Deficator. I took a liking to him so one day I paged a GM and told him "My name offends me" he showed up, im sure thought I was crazy but changed my name...FOR FREE! Absydian was born.
I tooled around in Trammel for about a year and quit several times out of boredom. AOS came out and 6 months into it I bailed. Brother took my account cause he swore Id be back to play. Still ain't been back.
I would agree that there is no mmorpg out there that even comes close to the fun I had in UO.
Even if they were to make a pre UOR shard it wouldn't be the same. Alot of people think they would come back and play UO but forgetting that they can add the shard, but they can't add the victims.
Viva La GUL!
(was never in GUL, but our guild TSO and GUL had lots of fun pvp battles)
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I played on Baja, starting in late '97... I still remember coming home with the box.
Yew was my home, until I ended up trading my house, my guild, and most of my money for a bottle of Jack Daniels on my birthday.
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Listen Asmodeeus, seven years ago, Ultima Online didn't even have those pathetic "quests" that you refer to or those "professions" of ninja, samurai, necromancer, and paladin. Nor did it have any of the neon crap, or bug mounts. It didn't even have any "combat moves." You turned on attack and jousted with simplistic swings. It was a better game then. if you can't guess why then just uninstall the thing and move along. - Crabby
Glory days? Everyone running around as a tank mage was glory days? I played then, and frankly I got tired of day after day having to play my tank mage if I didn't want to get ganked by a group of jerkoff's that I apparently looked at wrong and had no issue with getting a peice of me. I finally got tired of it and started hunting PK's just to try to get some satisfaction out of having to play a single toon day in and day out. Loved my bard, never got to use him because of the idiots that would take my kills while I had 2 mobs fighting each other, or kill me. Had a ton of toons, all I ever got to use was my GM Smith and my 6x Tank Mage. I played on atlantic for years and I finally left because I got tired of it. I also worked with Xena Dragon for abit on UO Stratics.
Fact is if any other MMO had the faults UO did at the time in it, they would be slayed without mercy publically for the failings in the game. Gross character imbalance. There were certain skills in game that if you took would make you excessively more powerful then others. Bugs ran rampant in that game, I remember 2 different phone conversations with OSI trying to get an answer out of them on when they were gonna get their act together and fix some of the gamestopping bugs, Such as the the graphics update for the 2d client after t2A. I remember getting attacked by stealth mobs for months after that patch went live, OSI was in no hurry to get it fixed. Lets see, you had jerks that could use the airmore trick to get in your house through the wall and clean you out and all OSI could say is "there is nothing we can do about it". Actually, I remember them saying that for just about everything. The standards UO didn't live up too are ones that today with any game coming out would kill a game before it ever hit the shelf. SOE gets raked over the coals time and time again for things that OSI got away with for years because the playerbase was so loyal.
UO is the pioneer of the concept of beta testing on the public in a pay to play game. I have very fond memories of UO as well, but they are of the people that I was with . UO DID inspire great roleplay and strong friendships and thats the part I miss in an MMO now. I remember the excitement at first of avoiding PK's and such when I was young in the game. However after about the 20th kill and having to buy all new stuff yet again that excitement turned into nothing but stress. I felt like I was working so someone else could enjoy the fruits of my labors.
I probably am coming off really harsh on this but your topic name grated me. The "carebear" term to me is rather rediculous and I generally find gankers are the ones that like to use it the most. And the ones that complain about it not being "carebear" anymore are generally those that are sore because they can't gank everyone in the game anymore, only those that choose to come face them, at even odds or those willing to accept the possible loss. The PvP lands are still there, everyone can go risk their necks anytime they want, they just can't do it to those that don't want that level of drama in their gameplay.
- Scaris
"What happened to you, Star Wars Galaxies? You used to look like Leia. Not quite gold bikini Leia (more like bad-British-accent-and-cinnamon-bun-hair Leia), but still Leia nonetheless. Now you look like Chewbacca." - Computer Gaming World
Sounds like SOMEONE got ganked afew too many times hahaha.....
Dude , thats Carebear talk right there . Generally , after the first few deaths people get smart , start going out of town in groups , hunting in populated areas & keeping clear of roads n pathways . Things to keep you away and hidden from PKs.
This was one of the main attractions for me to UO , the FEAR of being ganked , not trusting anyone as when you least expect it they can put a knife in your back! Murderers and Theives around every corner! And when your being persued by several PKs , death is immenint and your heart is pounding as your triyng to flee for your life and make it back into a guard zone..... well thats what UO was all about!
UOs PVP nowdays is just bleh , i mean , EVERYONE who goes into fel to PVP Insures all their good gear , only takes stuff they are willing to loose , thieves are able to steal nothing other than regents and bandages. And you know why , people like you , you might think "Hey its not my fault"
But when Carebears gather in numbers and have a big enough CRY for EA to hear , well they'll just F#CK the whole game.
It sickens me to see that you come here , after all this time , and post in a thread about appreciatiing UO the SAME THINGS that made the game what it is today , no offence
I don't think you even read my post. Did my time in PvP, won most the time without issue since most gankers don't actually know how to PvP themselves, they just know how to gank.
And had you read it fully you would see that most of what you said, I already answered before you bothered to type it.
- Scaris
"What happened to you, Star Wars Galaxies? You used to look like Leia. Not quite gold bikini Leia (more like bad-British-accent-and-cinnamon-bun-hair Leia), but still Leia nonetheless. Now you look like Chewbacca." - Computer Gaming World
I guess the simple way for me to put it is,
Anyone who played UO 97 ~ 99 on Chessy, and was around Trinsic for any length of time is very familiar with the name Jill.
And there's the kill-whore talk right there. Yep, people didn't like being utterly helpless against being ganked by people whose only advantage was that they were ten levels higher. Imagine that. So they left. So the game had to change because nobody but the handful of kill-whores who had already levelled wanted to play it. And it did. And now the only people who enter PvP are *prepared*! Horrors! Now you can't score acres of good loot while also preventing your victims from levelling so that they can defend themselves! Well, console yourself with glories of days gone by. The rest of us who never got off on ganking helpless newbies are having a fine time, thank you very much.
Chris mattern
Already have...and outside someone else having the exact same name..and with a name like that unlikely...Dude..you suck.
But then, there always will be a gap between a good pubbie and a competition player..
Your mind is like a parachute, it's only useful when it's open.
Don't forget, you can use the block function on trolls.
And there's the kill-whore talk right there. Yep, people didn't like being utterly helpless against being ganked by people whose only advantage was that they were ten levels higher. Imagine that. So they left. So the game had to change because nobody but the handful of kill-whores who had already levelled wanted to play it. And it did. And now the only people who enter PvP are *prepared*! Horrors! Now you can't score acres of good loot while also preventing your victims from levelling so that they can defend themselves! Well, console yourself with glories of days gone by. The rest of us who never got off on ganking helpless newbies are having a fine time, thank you very much.
Chris mattern
um.... theres no levels in UO.. did you even play it?
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Glory days? Everyone running around as a tank mage was glory days? I played then, and frankly I got tired of day after day having to play my tank mage if I didn't want to get ganked by a group of jerkoff's that I apparently looked at wrong and had no issue with getting a peice of me. I finally got tired of it and started hunting PK's just to try to get some satisfaction out of having to play a single toon day in and day out. Loved my bard, never got to use him because of the idiots that would take my kills while I had 2 mobs fighting each other, or kill me. Had a ton of toons, all I ever got to use was my GM Smith and my 6x Tank Mage. I played on atlantic for years and I finally left because I got tired of it. I also worked with Xena Dragon for abit on UO Stratics.
Fact is if any other MMO had the faults UO did at the time in it, they would be slayed without mercy publically for the failings in the game. Gross character imbalance. There were certain skills in game that if you took would make you excessively more powerful then others. Bugs ran rampant in that game, I remember 2 different phone conversations with OSI trying to get an answer out of them on when they were gonna get their act together and fix some of the gamestopping bugs, Such as the the graphics update for the 2d client after t2A. I remember getting attacked by stealth mobs for months after that patch went live, OSI was in no hurry to get it fixed. Lets see, you had jerks that could use the airmore trick to get in your house through the wall and clean you out and all OSI could say is "there is nothing we can do about it". Actually, I remember them saying that for just about everything. The standards UO didn't live up too are ones that today with any game coming out would kill a game before it ever hit the shelf. SOE gets raked over the coals time and time again for things that OSI got away with for years because the playerbase was so loyal.
UO is the pioneer of the concept of beta testing on the public in a pay to play game. I have very fond memories of UO as well, but they are of the people that I was with . UO DID inspire great roleplay and strong friendships and thats the part I miss in an MMO now. I remember the excitement at first of avoiding PK's and such when I was young in the game. However after about the 20th kill and having to buy all new stuff yet again that excitement turned into nothing but stress. I felt like I was working so someone else could enjoy the fruits of my labors.
I probably am coming off really harsh on this but your topic name grated me. The "carebear" term to me is rather rediculous and I generally find gankers are the ones that like to use it the most. And the ones that complain about it not being "carebear" anymore are generally those that are sore because they can't gank everyone in the game anymore, only those that choose to come face them, at even odds or those willing to accept the possible loss. The PvP lands are still there, everyone can go risk their necks anytime they want, they just can't do it to those that don't want that level of drama in their gameplay.
Ehm.. you didnt HAVE to be a tank mage ALL skill combos had their streaghts and the weak points
the Tank mage was just the EASY way to go in UO thats all .. not the best way just the easy way
lets do a quick list of combos that could destroy your generic tank mage pretty fast
Poisoners (the smart ones)
Archers / archer mages .. OUCH! the damage ..
Smart Dexxers during t2a and pre t2a
Theif mages / Theif dexxers .. OH NOSES WHERE ARE MY REGS!
Tamer/dexxers/mages .. ALL KILL+ insta hit from a high damage wep , anyone?
Trappers
Some Bards (when peace/provo worked vs players)
i could go on and on.. but ..
A tank mage could use poison just like anyone else. Invalid point, whats good for one in that effect is good for all.
I would eat an archer for lunch, as well as a dex bunny fencer. Sorry, but your techniques may have worked for you with whatever oponents you picked however I had no issue handing dex monkeys of any flavor. The only person I had problems with was a GM tamer that had a good dragon or White Worm.
Trappers? What are you talking about, paralyze? I hope not because that little trick was easily fixed with a few magic trapped bags in your inventory. Or are you referring to someone trapping chests? I never picked up a chest I didn't use telekenisis on first.
Theives? Umm, IF he actually had time to pick my pockets before I was on him he would have had a hard time finding reags where there appeared to be none. Reags were usually in a small pouch hid under my spellbook which at the time made them innaccesible unless you were hacking because a spellbook wouldn't move for a second like anything else when you tried to move something that you werent allowed too. Once agan however, planning would have taken care of that anyways, always keep a few scrolls elsewhere in your bags.
Bard? Are you kidding me, what no talent were you fighting?
Are you sure you played the game back then?
- Scaris
"What happened to you, Star Wars Galaxies? You used to look like Leia. Not quite gold bikini Leia (more like bad-British-accent-and-cinnamon-bun-hair Leia), but still Leia nonetheless. Now you look like Chewbacca." - Computer Gaming World
A tank mage could use poison just like anyone else. Invalid point, whats good for one in that effect is good for all.
I would eat an archer for lunch, as well as a dex bunny fencer. Sorry, but your techniques may have worked for you with whatever oponents you picked however I had no issue handing dex monkeys of any flavor. The only person I had problems with was a GM tamer that had a good dragon or White Worm.
Trappers? What are you talking about, magic trap? I hope not because that little trick was easily fixed with a few magic trapped bags in your inventory.
Theives? Umm, IF he actually had time to pick my pockets before I was on him he would have had a hard time finding reags where there appeared to be none. Reags were usually in a small pouch hid under my spellbook which at the time made them innaccesible unless you were hacking because a spellbook wouldn't move for a second like anything else when you tried to move something that you werent allowed too. Once agan however, planning would have taken care of that anyways, always keep a few scrolls elsewhere in your bags.
Bard? Are you kidding me, what no talent were you fighting?
Are you sure you played the game back then?
When I played White wurms were not in game so Now that you know what Era I speak of.
Never once did I lose to a Tank mage.
Thf/Swords/Archery, and I had a alt GM alc/pois so obviously my weapons were Deadly poisoned pretty much all the time. It all boiled down to tactics...most tank mages I ran into had none. But then, I never went out of my way to gank people..that was cheap to me. I would find high karma/fame people outside of town and steal crap out of their bag until they attacked me..Difference between me and most thf..I didnt steal and run..I would sit there and taunt them until they attacked. wasnt any fun just trying to take stuff and run..
A tank mage could use poison just like anyone else. Invalid point, whats good for one in that effect is good for all.
I would eat an archer for lunch, as well as a dex bunny fencer. Sorry, but your techniques may have worked for you with whatever oponents you picked however I had no issue handing dex monkeys of any flavor. The only person I had problems with was a GM tamer that had a good dragon or White Worm.
Trappers? What are you talking about, paralyze? I hope not because that little trick was easily fixed with a few magic trapped bags in your inventory. Or are you referring to someone trapping chests? I never picked up a chest I didn't use telekenisis on first.
Theives? Umm, IF he actually had time to pick my pockets before I was on him he would have had a hard time finding reags where there appeared to be none. Reags were usually in a small pouch hid under my spellbook which at the time made them innaccesible unless you were hacking because a spellbook wouldn't move for a second like anything else when you tried to move something that you werent allowed too. Once agan however, planning would have taken care of that anyways, always keep a few scrolls elsewhere in your bags.
Bard? Are you kidding me, what no talent were you fighting?
Are you sure you played the game back then?
bards - "you here (cant remmber) and forgett to continue fighting" way to mess up peoples insta hit comobs since they get tabbed out and cant tab in for # secs /peacemaking
Provo/ "You notice a Ancient wyrm attacking ****"
Theif , Hide , steal , taunt , get attacked , kill
Tamer , NO FOLLOWER LIMIT U DUMB NEWB! TRY TO SURVIVE 5 DRAGONS EATING UR ASS
Dexxers - Fencing - Long spear - GM alchmy - Explo pot macro (you CANT survive dont even try)
Macer - Q-staff-Destroy your gear
Mage Posion - PRE UO:R POISON DID NOT EFFECT THE POWER OF YOUR POISON SPELL hence GM poisoning dexxers Eat you for lunch
Geez.. you stupid generic hally mages never stop annoying the shit out of me..
I never ganked at all, I was working on Glorious, was a few kills from here when I finally quit I think. I usually just ran guard dog with whatever group of friends I was with that generally didn't know the game well and would have got their backsides handed to them if some organized PK's came strolling through wanting their crappy loot just for the fun of causing some greif.
Dunno about your tactics against tank mages, I never had a problem with anyone other then a very good other tank mage or a tamer. And just to clarify when I started WW weren't in there either, but I did play longer then a year.
And they came with t2a.
- Scaris
"What happened to you, Star Wars Galaxies? You used to look like Leia. Not quite gold bikini Leia (more like bad-British-accent-and-cinnamon-bun-hair Leia), but still Leia nonetheless. Now you look like Chewbacca." - Computer Gaming World
A tank mage could use poison just like anyone else. Invalid point, whats good for one in that effect is good for all.
I would eat an archer for lunch, as well as a dex bunny fencer. Sorry, but your techniques may have worked for you with whatever oponents you picked however I had no issue handing dex monkeys of any flavor. The only person I had problems with was a GM tamer that had a good dragon or White Worm.
Trappers? What are you talking about, paralyze? I hope not because that little trick was easily fixed with a few magic trapped bags in your inventory. Or are you referring to someone trapping chests? I never picked up a chest I didn't use telekenisis on first.
Theives? Umm, IF he actually had time to pick my pockets before I was on him he would have had a hard time finding reags where there appeared to be none. Reags were usually in a small pouch hid under my spellbook which at the time made them innaccesible unless you were hacking because a spellbook wouldn't move for a second like anything else when you tried to move something that you werent allowed too. Once agan however, planning would have taken care of that anyways, always keep a few scrolls elsewhere in your bags.
Bard? Are you kidding me, what no talent were you fighting?
Are you sure you played the game back then?
bards - "you here (cant remmber) and forgett to continue fighting" way to mess up peoples insta hit comobs since they get tabbed out and cant tab in for # secs /peacemaking
Provo/ "You notice a Ancient wyrm attacking ****"
Theif , Hide , steal , taunt , get attacked , kill
Tamer , NO FOLLOWER LIMIT U DUMB NEWB! TRY TO SURVIVE 5 DRAGONS EATING UR ASS
Dexxers - Fencing - Long spear - GM alchmy - Explo pot macro (you CANT survive dont even try)
Macer - Q-staff-Destroy your gear
Mage Posion - PRE UO:R POISON DID NOT EFFECT THE POWER OF YOUR POISON SPELL hence GM poisoning dexxers Eat you for lunch
Geez.. you stupid generic hally mages never stop annoying the shit out of me..
Next time try speaking in some coherent language and maybe I will read it completely. A for mage poison, what about it? Was a semi worthless spell, I think everyone knows that. It had its fun in PvP however, was good for interrupts.
I think your completely out of hand at this point, making it up as you go along, I suppose you can run this little one man band of characters all at once to attack a person too?
And pre t2a Gm poison could be cleared by MAGIC you NEWB. Get your game straight. It wasn't til months AFTER t2a that gm poison could no longer be cleared by a mage.
So watch who your calling stupid. Its bad enough you focused on only one small part of my post and have completely taken it out of hand. And now you have resorted to personal insults because its all you have left. Your grabbing at straws, give it up.
- Scaris
"What happened to you, Star Wars Galaxies? You used to look like Leia. Not quite gold bikini Leia (more like bad-British-accent-and-cinnamon-bun-hair Leia), but still Leia nonetheless. Now you look like Chewbacca." - Computer Gaming World
Here we have 300 plus more post to this topic by people who think they know it all about UO and the stupid carebear topic.
Here is a reality check for you, UO SUCKS!
Most MMORPG's suck plain and simple and where in the world people are getting that it actually takes a player's skill to play these games especially with PvP is beyond me, are you people serious?????? Do any of you really know what a true hardcore gamer is and what true skill is?
From reading many of the 300 plus post the answer was all too obvious, the answer is NO!
A hardcore gamer is not someone who plays MMORPG's 24/7, sorry you are WRONG!
A hardcore gamer is someone very skilled behind the keyboard where that is the only thing you have to go on. No script programs, no exploits, no in game character skill, nothing, just you and your fingers on the keyboard and mouse. Tactical know how in these environments and true skill is what a real hardcore gamer is with many kills to prove it on the battlefield.
You're all a bunch of wimps, so many people I have met from online rpg games that are scared to death to play the REAL PvP games like the Battlefield series and the likes. So many people that have admitted to me in game that they have no skill in FPS online games at all.
The ones I'm talking about are the ones that think they are so skilled in PvP or whatever in MMORPG's but yet they are scared to death to come to the expert PvPer games. There are a few players that do and play both type of games like me but we are extremely rare. Nonetheless my point is made and if you missed it don't bother posting another 300 post of moronic come backs because I will not come back here to read replies or whatever since those uneducated opinions do not even concern me in the least.
The only way to prove yourself to me is on the battlefield B----
Do you have a clue? You're making some mighty bold assumptions that all anyone does here is play MMO's. And I would say thats a rather stupid assumption on your part. Wimps? You sound like a 10 year old saying "my game is better then your game".
So lets see, you just got Battlefield 2 and you think your the greatest thing since sliced bread huh? Well congratulations. Assume what you like about myself or anyone else heres gaming habit, your the one that ends up looking like the idiot.
- Scaris
"What happened to you, Star Wars Galaxies? You used to look like Leia. Not quite gold bikini Leia (more like bad-British-accent-and-cinnamon-bun-hair Leia), but still Leia nonetheless. Now you look like Chewbacca." - Computer Gaming World
Apparently you missed my post about meeting you in BF2 and finding out you suck at it. Might want to scroll up and read it..because the guy I ran into while good for a random pubber...still sucked by competition standards..
On that note, I play both FPS style games and MMORPGs...PVP like early UO took not only skill but tactics..Most FPS only take the ability to twitch faster then your opponent. BF2 is an exception for the most part, it does have a fair element of Twitch in it, but there is a large amount of skill and tactics required..it is one of the FEW games in its genre that require that. On the whole, most FPS required Far less skill then UO did...
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I never really got involved with the original UO. When I first played it I couldn't really stand the lag and so I kept up with what I was doing at the time, which was playing Gemstone III. It's text based but equal to old UO in immersiveness. The community was a lot more tame mind you but it was very much a freeform, realistic society. Later on I did play UO roughly a year after it came out on a free shard. Maybe it was the size of the world that helped but for about 4 months I was really sucked into the game and I would've played longer if they didn't wipe the servers and completely change the rulesets. Anyway, we had two guilds that maintained 80% of the most powerful players in the server and then I was the leader of a much larger guild (quantity wise) but typically a bunch of a noobs-mid level players as far as character strength. The world seemed to be ran very much similar to how UO was ran back in the day. UO offered the only times I can remember being PKed a few times and not minding because it felt like such a real world.
I'm looking forward to Dark and Light at the moment, followed by Hero's Journey (developed by Simutronics, the developer for Gemstone III)
UO did take alot of tatics, that aspect of it was great. I had alot of fun just PvP'ing people that wanted to do it strictly for the challenge and not loot rights. We would practice and drill each other often. As I said, the most memorable parts of UO to me was the friends I had and the bonds that were formed in it over such things.
- Scaris
"What happened to you, Star Wars Galaxies? You used to look like Leia. Not quite gold bikini Leia (more like bad-British-accent-and-cinnamon-bun-hair Leia), but still Leia nonetheless. Now you look like Chewbacca." - Computer Gaming World
UO did take alot of tatics, that aspect of it was great. I had alot of fun just PvP'ing people that wanted to do it strictly for the challenge and not loot rights. We would practice and drill each other often. As I said, the most memorable parts of UO to me was the friends I had and the bonds that were formed in it over such things.
Yea I know,
This kid is nothing more then then a glaring example of why people generally shun FPS type gamers. Typical add type personality, My game is better then yours, my <blank> is bigger then yours..pre-pubecent adolecent crap. I honestly doubt he is even old enough to have the faintest clue what we are talking about when we say old school UO, not the new garbage evolution it has turned into since the degradation of Trammel started.
This is why I play a variety of games, MMOs, FPS, Strategy, RPG. I personally like a variety, sometimes I like immersiveness but simple just to lose the stress of the day..sometimes I like to strategize and think, others I just want to blow things up.
UO was the greatest game ever. Sadly, no game has since taken it's place. The player freedom aspect of the game is what made it what it was. Sadly, that player freedom was torn from us because of the success of Everquest.
To this day I still play UO. Not OSI's sad watered-down version, but on player run servers where that sense of player freedom is still intact.
I never thought I would miss pre UOR days, and when UOR came out I was excited at the concept.
I just never had the patience for the gank squads of pre UOR days. It wasn't the duo PK's that really ever bothered me. I'd put up a good fight but ultimately got killed in the end.
I learned all the tricks to avoid PK's. Never participate in a bone wall. Which ironically most those people there deserved to be killed hourly.
Hiding became a necessary skill. Spent most my time working skills in T2A which was all but void of any PK action on Napa. Once my skills got to respectable levels joined up with a guild and started exploring the world in the group. The group sucked, I remember hunting at the Oasis and three pk's showed up...there were 13 of us! It was pathetic I stood my ground while the rest of the group all ran off in different directions. By that time in my UO life PK's didn't bother me. Once I realised my group wasn't as safe as I thought, I took up my DP kryss and defended myself till I was the last man standing.
Nearly killed one of em..keke.
UO was great back then. It was a stronger community. UOR turned UO into a single player game. Once I realised there wasnt anything I couldn't do with my mage I started losing interest.
My first trip to the lost lands, I wasn't but two days old. I was swept up by a couple players to hunt ophidians. They armed me and gave me some armor and off we went. Instructions were to run when told.
I ran, and was lost in the lost lands for two days. Pretty sad considering I now realize I was just a few screens north of papau, but I was a newb...and to make matters worse I was dead. So for two days I walked in endless circles.
The "vendor buy bank guards" macro confused me for a week. Couldn't figure out wtf they were trying to buy at the bank.
I made a character to goof around with my brother, named him Deficator. I took a liking to him so one day I paged a GM and told him "My name offends me" he showed up, im sure thought I was crazy but changed my name...FOR FREE! Absydian was born.
I tooled around in Trammel for about a year and quit several times out of boredom. AOS came out and 6 months into it I bailed. Brother took my account cause he swore Id be back to play. Still ain't been back.
I would agree that there is no mmorpg out there that even comes close to the fun I had in UO.
Even if they were to make a pre UOR shard it wouldn't be the same. Alot of people think they would come back and play UO but forgetting that they can add the shard, but they can't add the victims.
Viva La GUL!
(was never in GUL, but our guild TSO and GUL had lots of fun pvp battles)