Originally posted by Dabutt Unfortunatly my friend in this day and age T&A are the 2 best sellers out there. its sad to say and im quite ashamed to, but untill we as people stop buying into it and turn our heads when they do this, they as a cooproration wont get the point, they dont get points untill there money drops because of it. but, sadly enough that would be too much to ask from the sleezy sex minded men and women of today.
I'm not ashamed.. flash me some T and show me some A and you'll get a dollar in that g-string! BTW i'll take another $9 bud light thanks!~
Originally posted by fulmanfu hey if someone wants to hold a contest to see who can put thier head furthest up their arse, thats fine. as long as people VOLUNTARILY join it. dont blame them if you dont like it, blame the girls doing it. or their boyfriends who make them. but really dont blame anyone, its a harmelss contest..seems today everyone has to get worked up about anyting just for the fact of doing it. politicaly correct horshit is ruining the world. as for me, ill dress up like an elf , ill eat a dolphin if i can find someone serving it, ill throw the doggie bag out the car window on the way home and if i wreck doing it i hope i take out at least 2 trees.
you know quite frankly i dont care how people think or what they do, especially when it involves sex. so when i say that its exactly that behavior that explains todays sexua society im not ridiculing anyone. but for those of you who want to see a change in how women are treated. do something instead of sit here and whine on a public forum where you will get no better response then the ones you see.
Here ya go kid, dont forget to get your tissues first...
And learn how to use google... sheesh
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"I think I have the sex appeal and class to pull it off. I not only model, but act, so I believe I could take on the persona of the character."
Yes Im sure the fiercely independant Queen of the Free people of EQ2 sees herself as a "sex symbol"
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the only thing i would find wrong is that her average vote is only 4.42!! but she is in the current top 30 I do think that more of them should try and dress up in a costume or something to look more the part tho but CLEAVAGE is nice too!!!!!!!
Who is Antonia Bayle?
Profile: Antonia Bayle Background
Antonia Bayle is the benevolent ruler of the kingdom of Qeynos, the city of good in the game, EverQuest® II. Though only in her late 20s, she is already an accomplished leader. Possessing an enigmatic charm and an undeniable beauty, she immediately commands the attention of all who see her. But she is far from just a pretty face; she proved soon after her arrival in Qeynos that she has a natural gift for inspiring her people and making wise decisions regarding their future. She speaks from the heart and motivates her subjects to believe in their ability to achieve great things. Imagine her giving rousing speeches like JFK that speak of the strength and will of her people.
Though kind and giving by nature, Antonia Bayle is extremely willful and does not back down from what she knows to be the right thing to do. While open to compromise in many areas, she will not negotiate her belief in justice. She is a formidable ruler who has earned the respect of those around her by being that rare combination of idealist and pragmatist, believing a better future is possible only through hard work and unity, as well as the judicious use of force.
They forgot to mention that Antonia is also a pole dancer
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Her comment as to why she is "suitable" "I think I have the sex appeal and class to pull it off. I not only model, but act, so I believe I could take on the persona of the character."
Yes Im sure the fiercely independant Queen of the Free people of EQ2 sees herself as a "sex symbol"
I still dont see where she was forced to pose in that studio...Where is she being objectified against her will?
edit: And, do you really want to see the majority of people who play MMOs (male or female) In a skimpy outfit? Emagine the excersize girl in a few threads back in the Antonia outfit.
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I dont have any drama with her posing butt naked or whatever...
Saying that what she is doing somehow represents Antonia Bale.... she clearly has no idea
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Teresa Noreen is in the lead with 7.03 average score Heres what she had to say
Why do you want to be the real life version of Antonia? I am making Sony's and Stuff Magazine's Quest for Antonia Bayle my own personal quest. With my profound desire to experience the wonder and excitement of the Fantasy world, I am fully immersed in EQ 2. To those who are voting, please recognize that I don't just have the looks to be Antonia, but my strong desire to be Antonia is represented in my commitment to create my own costume and prepare photos specifically for this contest. I understand the regal nature of the Queen of Qeynos and know that I can represent her well to her fans, as one of her fans. I also have the modeling experience to properly represent Antonia on behalf of SOE. I want to be the-real life version of Antonia because I possess the physical attributes to properly represent her, I have the class and passion to present her character respectfully, and I want my fellow gamers to be proud of their real-life Antonia as she makes her future public appearances. Thank you, Teresa Noreen --courtesy of SOE and STUFF Magazine
Yes well at least she has some clue about what shes doing. To the credit of the voters they have gone for her too
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Ok heres another on who has clearly never heard of EQ until now.... whatever you do PLEASE read her statement below... its a major crackup!
"I want to be Antonia because she is super hot and sexy and I feel that I could represent her to the fullest! I have a lot of experience as a model, being on the covers and featured in magazines such as Import Tuner, Performance Auto & Sound, Lowrider Euro, DSport, Playboy and many others. I am also very fit from go-go dancing and travel with the leading automotive carshow, Hot Import Nights all around the US! I also love to play video games and it would be super hot to play with myself in this game "
I bet she didnt mean it to come out quite that way.... or maybe she did
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Originally posted by Razorback Yah me too she is the shizzle ---------------------- On the other hand
HOLY Female Impersonators Batman No one mentioned Antonia Bale was a tranny Im going to hell for sure Bleh I cant shake this one off...no sleep tonight.
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Originally posted by sleepyguyftl Actually considering that I'm married I suspect that I know more about women than you do In general women DO like to look at cute guys but they generally do not carry it to the extent that guys do. How many women look at magazines the like of hustler, playboy, etc. Granted there are a FEW but the market is nowhere NEAR as large as guys who look at women in skimpy attire.Please get your facts straight before posting what you obviously haven't any clue about.YES, girls like to look at guys, but the market for guys looking at women is MUCH MUCH larger, and not just in video games. Or did you think the cheerleader pages of various football team websites were there for women to get fassion tips from? Or, for that matter, the fact that all the adds on tv these days have a sexual connotation of some kind or other? Or the fact that you almost never see ugly women as newscasters? Hmm?Take a pill and look around.Sex Sells It's a simple fact.Now, I will say I didn't realize that SOE was giving whoever won a spread in STUFF (whatever that is?) that seems kind of low to me if that magazine is anything like a playboy or something. But the bottom line is that it's not a beauty contest it is a look-alike contest with a really sick "prize".
Ok, well I'm a gay man so I'm pretty sure I have an understanding of women much more than straight men, married or not. As for facts....Women Newcasters that aren't what most would consider hot? Barbara Walters, Cookie Roberts, Christiane Amanpour to name a few. The fact is that the reason why there is a much larger market is because many of the industries are dominated and run by men.
Originally posted by Elnator There's a reason that Prostitution is the oldest profession in the world. Sex.... Sells...
Sex sells because men are easy. The reason women don't pay for sex is because we don't have to. (How's that for a sexist statement? LOL)
But, back to the debate, I'm a woman, and I don't have any problem with the contest any more than I have a problem with dog shows. It's real world fluff. It's pointless and dumb, but not damaging, particularly if the girls have some fun. Looks like it is mostly models trying to do something for their careers. Good for them. If people will buy it, why not sell it? Money is power.
Anyway, have you ever noticed that while men's general interest magazines are full of pictures of women, women's magazines are *not* full of pictures of men? They are full of pictures of beautiful women. Most of us want to BE those women, and have our empowerment too.
... This is where I draw the line: __________________.
I've really tried to stay away from this conversation as I'm obviously biased and have a hard time staying objective regarding the subject, well that and there's only so much testostorone that I can take in one thread, but everyone seems to be missing the point here. I have no problem with consenting adult females or males doing whatever they want in an adult situation, and even if I didn't agree with whatever it is they were doing, what business is it of mine to comment on it in the first place as I'm certainly no angel myself. But the problem is that this is NOT an Adult situation nor is it an adult environment, EQ2 is rated T and under current regulations (found here http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/feature/-/71576/102-3049923-2853764) that allows children that are 13 and over to play the game. Now don't get all tiffy here, hold on. Try to imagine a 15 year old girl, who's already bombed every day by TV, Movies, magazines, friends, guys.. you name it, on how she "should" look and act, now she goes to a game site and has this shoved in her face, she sees the boys acting just the like guys have on this very thread, even if you are the BIGGEST sexist in the world you have to see an issue with that, you just have too. This is not a question as to whether sex sells, or whether it's right or wrong for these females to be sending pictures of themselves in the first place but it's a matter of who you are responsibly subjecting a company message towards. Having a look-a-like contest is one thing, but treating women like objects to be shown in a magazine that is nothing more softcore porn is another, let alone advertising that fact to your young female (and male for that matter) viewing audience. As I said in my first post which was so pointedly replied to ("get back in the kitchen *****" lol thanks for proving my point), I know this is by far not the popular oppinion and I don't want to spark some crazy horse debate on feminism or sexism as this really isn't the place, it's just my view on this one subject, right or wrong it's how I feel.
Originally posted by shae But the problem is that this is NOT an Adult situation nor is it an adult environment, EQ2 is rated T and under current regulations (found here http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/feature/-/71576/102-3049923-2853764) that allows children that are 13 and over to play the game. Now don't get all tiffy here, hold on. Try to imagine a 15 year old girl, who's already bombed every day by TV, Movies, magazines, friends, guys.. you name it, on how she "should" look and act, now she goes to a game site and has this shoved in her face, she sees the boys acting just the like guys have on this very thread, even if you are the BIGGEST sexist in the world you have to see an issue with that, you just have too.
I see what you're saying. I guess some girls might get entirely the wrong message about their own worth. Some girls (like me, back when I was a girl) are pretty impervious to that sort of social pressure, but others, (like my 13 year old daughter) really take those things to heart. When I was a 15 year old girl, I'd have had a huge laugh over something like the SOE contest, particularly some of the dumber contestants, but my daughter might be one to sit and wonder if she shouldn't be more like those women. Then again, at that age, my family lived in a rural area with no cable or satellite TV, my favorite magazine was Writer's Digest, and my friends were all geeks too. I had nothing but contempt for mainstream culture (and that hasn't changed for me). But I see that my daughter tries so hard to fit in, and she doesn't particularly appreciate her mom being a freak, so maybe that kind of pressure does come to bear on her.
SOE is hardly an agent of positive social change, though. This is basically a promotional stunt aimed at their core audience, 18-25 year old men. They probably don't much care if it bothers female gamers, since women still aren't a key demographic for them, despite our growing numbers. And it's still basically a dog show-- a pointless parade that makes no real difference. I would hope that *most* girls would be smart enough to see it for what it is.
... This is where I draw the line: __________________.
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I'm not ashamed.. flash me some T and show me some A and you'll get a dollar in that g-string! BTW i'll take another $9 bud light thanks!~
Make a difference!
you know quite frankly i dont care how people think or what they do, especially when it involves sex. so when i say that its exactly that behavior that explains todays sexua society im not ridiculing anyone. but for those of you who want to see a change in how women are treated. do something instead of sit here and whine on a public forum where you will get no better response then the ones you see.
So...
Does anyone have any info on this contest ?PLEASE share
Im sure we would all love to know who won
and if you have any pics that would be nice too
http://questforantonia.station.sony.com/en/finalists.vm
Here ya go kid, dont forget to get your tissues first...
And learn how to use google... sheesh
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OMG OMG thats the site i was looking for thanks a TON razorback!
no worries
And this is why its WRONG!
Her comment as to why she is "suitable"
"I think I have the sex appeal and class to pull it off. I not only model, but act, so I believe I could take on the persona of the character."
Yes Im sure the fiercely independant Queen of the Free people of EQ2 sees herself as a "sex symbol"
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"Far away across the field, the tolling of the iron bell, calls the faithful to their knees. To hear the softly spoken magic spell" Pink Floyd-Dark Side of the Moon
the only thing i would find wrong is that her average vote is only 4.42!!
but she is in the current top 30
I do think that more of them should try and dress up in a costume or something to look more the part tho
but CLEAVAGE is nice too!!!!!!!
Who is Antonia Bayle?
Profile: Antonia Bayle
Background
Antonia Bayle is the benevolent ruler of the kingdom of Qeynos, the city of good in the game, EverQuest® II. Though only in her late 20s, she is already an accomplished leader. Possessing an enigmatic charm and an undeniable beauty, she immediately commands the attention of all who see her. But she is far from just a pretty face; she proved soon after her arrival in Qeynos that she has a natural gift for inspiring her people and making wise decisions regarding their future. She speaks from the heart and motivates her subjects to believe in their ability to achieve great things. Imagine her giving rousing speeches like JFK that speak of the strength and will of her people.
Though kind and giving by nature, Antonia Bayle is extremely willful and does not back down from what she knows to be the right thing to do. While open to compromise in many areas, she will not negotiate her belief in justice. She is a formidable ruler who has earned the respect of those around her by being that rare combination of idealist and pragmatist, believing a better future is possible only through hard work and unity, as well as the judicious use of force.
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"MMOs, for people that like think chatting is like a skill or something, rotflol"
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"Far away across the field, the tolling of the iron bell, calls the faithful to their knees. To hear the softly spoken magic spell" Pink Floyd-Dark Side of the Moon
I still dont see where she was forced to pose in that studio...Where is she being objectified against her will?
edit: And, do you really want to see the majority of people who play MMOs (male or female) In a skimpy outfit? Emagine the excersize girl in a few threads back in the Antonia outfit.
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We have nothing to fear but our own
goverment
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Hell dont get me wrong...
I dont have any drama with her posing butt naked or whatever...
Saying that what she is doing somehow represents Antonia Bale.... she clearly has no idea
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"MMOs, for people that like think chatting is like a skill or something, rotflol"
http://purepwnage.com
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"Far away across the field, the tolling of the iron bell, calls the faithful to their knees. To hear the softly spoken magic spell" Pink Floyd-Dark Side of the Moon
Teresa Noreen is in the lead with 7.03 average score
Heres what she had to say
Why do you want to be the real life version of Antonia?
I am making Sony's and Stuff Magazine's Quest for Antonia Bayle my own personal quest. With my profound desire to experience the wonder and excitement of the Fantasy world, I am fully immersed in EQ 2. To those who are voting, please recognize that I don't just have the looks to be Antonia, but my strong desire to be Antonia is represented in my commitment to create my own costume and prepare photos specifically for this contest. I understand the regal nature of the Queen of Qeynos and know that I can represent her well to her fans, as one of her fans. I also have the modeling experience to properly represent Antonia on behalf of SOE. I want to be the-real life version of Antonia because I possess the physical attributes to properly represent her, I have the class and passion to present her character respectfully, and I want my fellow gamers to be proud of their real-life Antonia as she makes her future public appearances. Thank you, Teresa Noreen
--courtesy of SOE and STUFF Magazine
if i new how to post a pic i would
she has a really nice costume
Yes well at least she has some clue about what shes doing. To the credit of the voters they have gone for her too
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Razorback one word
You Rule
I voted for her and i hope she wins, she deserves it her costume is so awsome
Yah me too she is the shizzle
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On the other hand
HOLY Female Impersonators Batman
No one mentioned Antonia Bale was a tranny
Im going to hell for sure
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We have nothing to fear but our own
goverment
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Ok heres another on who has clearly never heard of EQ until now.... whatever you do PLEASE read her statement below... its a major crackup!
"I want to be Antonia because she is super hot and sexy and I feel that I could represent her to the fullest! I have a lot of experience as a model, being on the covers and featured in magazines such as Import Tuner, Performance Auto & Sound, Lowrider Euro, DSport, Playboy and many others. I am also very fit from go-go dancing and travel with the leading automotive carshow, Hot Import Nights all around the US! I also love to play video games and it would be super hot to play with myself in this game "
I bet she didnt mean it to come out quite that way.... or maybe she did
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too funny
although i would like to take this moment to personally thank her for participating
it is clear she does have some talent
but i have just removed her from my personal top 10
ps
This contest is one of the best ideas SOE has ever had
and i wish EVERY major mmorpg had one of these!
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We have nothing to fear but our own
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[quote]Originally posted by Elnator
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Ok, well I'm a gay man so I'm pretty sure I have an understanding of women much more than straight men, married or not. As for facts....Women Newcasters that aren't what most would consider hot? Barbara Walters, Cookie Roberts, Christiane Amanpour to name a few. The fact is that the reason why there is a much larger market is because many of the industries are dominated and run by men.
Lol...
Sleepy you can delude yourself all you want but the bottom line is that sex sells.
Deny it all you want.
Rant about it all you want.
It's a fact. It has been a fact for as long as people have existed.
There's a reason that Prostitution is the oldest profession in the world.
Sex.... Sells...
Sorry you don't want to believe it but it doesn't make it any less true.
Currently Playing: Dungeons and Dragons Online.
Sig image Pending
Still in: A couple Betas
Sex sells because men are easy. The reason women don't pay for sex is because we don't have to. (How's that for a sexist statement? LOL)
But, back to the debate, I'm a woman, and I don't have any problem with the contest any more than I have a problem with dog shows. It's real world fluff. It's pointless and dumb, but not damaging, particularly if the girls have some fun. Looks like it is mostly models trying to do something for their careers. Good for them. If people will buy it, why not sell it? Money is power.
Anyway, have you ever noticed that while men's general interest magazines are full of pictures of women, women's magazines are *not* full of pictures of men? They are full of pictures of beautiful women. Most of us want to BE those women, and have our empowerment too.
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This is where I draw the line: __________________.
I've really tried to stay away from this conversation as I'm obviously biased and have a hard time staying objective regarding the subject, well that and there's only so much testostorone that I can take in one thread, but everyone seems to be missing the point here.
I have no problem with consenting adult females or males doing whatever they want in an adult situation, and even if I didn't agree with whatever it is they were doing, what business is it of mine to comment on it in the first place as I'm certainly no angel myself. But the problem is that this is NOT an Adult situation nor is it an adult environment, EQ2 is rated T and under current regulations (found here http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/feature/-/71576/102-3049923-2853764) that allows children that are 13 and over to play the game.
Now don't get all tiffy here, hold on. Try to imagine a 15 year old girl, who's already bombed every day by TV, Movies, magazines, friends, guys.. you name it, on how she "should" look and act, now she goes to a game site and has this shoved in her face, she sees the boys acting just the like guys have on this very thread, even if you are the BIGGEST sexist in the world you have to see an issue with that, you just have too.
This is not a question as to whether sex sells, or whether it's right or wrong for these females to be sending pictures of themselves in the first place but it's a matter of who you are responsibly subjecting a company message towards. Having a look-a-like contest is one thing, but treating women like objects to be shown in a magazine that is nothing more softcore porn is another, let alone advertising that fact to your young female (and male for that matter) viewing audience.
As I said in my first post which was so pointedly replied to ("get back in the kitchen *****" lol thanks for proving my point), I know this is by far not the popular oppinion and I don't want to spark some crazy horse debate on feminism or sexism as this really isn't the place, it's just my view on this one subject, right or wrong it's how I feel.
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Sex sells because men are easy. The reason women don't pay for sex is because we don't have to. (How's that for a sexist statement? LOL)
I've been offered money for sex by girls twice now. I'm a 17 year old geek.
I wish I was joking, too.
I see what you're saying. I guess some girls might get entirely the wrong message about their own worth. Some girls (like me, back when I was a girl) are pretty impervious to that sort of social pressure, but others, (like my 13 year old daughter) really take those things to heart. When I was a 15 year old girl, I'd have had a huge laugh over something like the SOE contest, particularly some of the dumber contestants, but my daughter might be one to sit and wonder if she shouldn't be more like those women. Then again, at that age, my family lived in a rural area with no cable or satellite TV, my favorite magazine was Writer's Digest, and my friends were all geeks too. I had nothing but contempt for mainstream culture (and that hasn't changed for me). But I see that my daughter tries so hard to fit in, and she doesn't particularly appreciate her mom being a freak, so maybe that kind of pressure does come to bear on her.
SOE is hardly an agent of positive social change, though. This is basically a promotional stunt aimed at their core audience, 18-25 year old men. They probably don't much care if it bothers female gamers, since women still aren't a key demographic for them, despite our growing numbers. And it's still basically a dog show-- a pointless parade that makes no real difference. I would hope that *most* girls would be smart enough to see it for what it is.
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This is where I draw the line: __________________.