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Neverwinter Nights?!?!?!

Iwas just wondering while I was looking through the list of games is that why isn't Neverwinter Nights on the list ? Then i come to find out that it doesn't meet "one" requirement--500+ players in a single world---::::21:: well personally i think it is the epitome of a mmorpg. It is to my knowlege the only mmorpg that allows the gaming community to host their own created sever worlds..via the arora tool set..and the creation of new items and scripting..CEP pack. I trully wish that this great game would be included for those not familiar to it.
don't get me wrong there are alot of great games represented here minus Evercrack..::::12:: lol say no to crack lol just my opinion...

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  • SaigonshakesSaigonshakes Member Posts: 937

    So you want NWN on a MMORPG site and the original EQ off a MMORPG site? I agree NWN is a good game but it's not an mmo. As far as Eq being taken off, don't hold your breath.

  • RedevylRedevyl Member Posts: 7

    well if mmo means being on one single server then i guess your right. as for EQ i didn't mean it should be removed. I just think it's a silly game for ppl to pour money into thats all< my sole opinion. as for NWN a single world --depending on which world your playing in-- and there are alot, do span several servers. Yes the usual max is about 60 per server, but keep in mind these worlds are community created, not developer created. no monthly fees only donations for server upgrades and additions

  • SaigonshakesSaigonshakes Member Posts: 937

    Just about every mmo out there makes you pay to play. I just don't get why singled one game out when just about every other game on the site follows the same formula. I wouldn't mind seeing NWN added though just because I like the game.

  • RedevylRedevyl Member Posts: 7

    yeah I would like to see NWN get it's due..love the game..great playing experiance depending on the server your on.... maybe thats the reason??? it's not a pay to play??? what a shame a true mmorpg made for players by players!!!!

  • RazorbackRazorback Member, Newbie CommonPosts: 5,253
    Im playing through the original NWN campaign again right now... Its a brilliant game image

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  • ZepeeZepee Member Posts: 947

    Man... are u speaking of the "new" NWN u can buy at stores and is a SP rpg with on-line features, or are u speaking of the old NWN, which was a mmorpg? I remeber seeing written somewhere that there was an NWN mmorpg "lonG" time ago, before the SP NWN came out. Is this what your speaking? If your speaking about the new one, it doesnt make any sense to add forums to it, if they would they would almost certainly also add D2 and DS forums....

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  • darquenbladedarquenblade Member Posts: 1,015



    Originally posted by Razorback
    Im playing through the original NWN campaign again right now... Its a brilliant game image


    Yep, I had some good times with NWN, although I've gotten a lot more mileage out of the toolset than the actual single player campaign. I finished it, but found it pretty repetative after a while.
  • GrouchoGroucho Member Posts: 100
    There are several sites out there already dedicated to NWN.  I suggest you try one of them.
  • RedevylRedevyl Member Posts: 7


    Originally posted by Groucho
    There are several sites out there already dedicated to NWN. I suggest you try one of them.


    i know this and a member to all including the sites to the severs which i play on::::02::

  • joejccva71joejccva71 Member UncommonPosts: 848

    If you are referring to the "old" NWN that was hosted by America Online, well then yea it's an MMORPG that was one of the very first but it's no longer live. The game was cancelled years ago. If you are referring to the "new" NWN that you can buy in stores, well it shouldn't be on this website because it's not a MMORPG. It goes alongside Diablo II which is not an MMORPG. These are both multiplayer fantasy games. An MMORPG consists of NO single player mode at all, strictly multiplayer with an ongoing persistent gaming world where content changes with updates and everything runs while you aren't logged onto the game.

    NWN doesn't qualify as this type of game.

  • WillJones420WillJones420 Member Posts: 263
    Just out of curiosity, when is NWN2 set to be released?
  • ElnatorElnator Member Posts: 6,077

    You might want to re-check the definition of MMO :)
    Neverwinter Nights is a great game but it's not an MMO. It's a MPORPG.

    MMO means Massively Multiplayer Online: As in: Massive ammounts of players online at the same time on the same server. Typically "massive" is around 100 or more. Though that number is blurring as there are some 'multiplayer capable' games (like Freelancer) where you can host over 100 simultaneous players now. I tend to think of any game that doesn't have more than 2-300 simultaneous players per server as a CORPG nowadays.

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  • EyemazeEyemaze Member Posts: 26



    Originally posted by joejccva

    If you are referring to the "old" NWN that was hosted by America Online, well then yea it's an MMORPG that was one of the very first but it's no longer live. The game was cancelled years ago. If you are referring to the "new" NWN that you can buy in stores, well it shouldn't be on this website because it's not a MMORPG. It goes alongside Diablo II which is not an MMORPG. These are both multiplayer fantasy games. An MMORPG consists of NO single player mode at all, strictly multiplayer with an ongoing persistent gaming world where content changes with updates and everything runs while you aren't logged onto the game.
    NWN doesn't qualify as this type of game.



    Conan will have a single player mode.

    Not sure where you pulled your mmorpg description from, but stick it back up there; it stinks.


  • BalterBalter Member Posts: 1,015

    I play NWN.

    I play on Zombieland Server, but taking a break at the moment.

    Also i've been a DM (dungeon master) on many servers.

    It's great fun to play and be a DM.

    Neverwinter nights 2 will alow people to transfer they're modules through a tool included in the new toolset and make new additions, which i think is a GREAT feature to have, so i'm definitely looking forward to NWN2 image.

    NWN2 links:

    Official Site (not much on it):

    http://www.atari.com/nwn2/

    Video of the early stage and some of the features:

    http://www.gamespot.com/pc/rpg/neverwinternights2/media.html

    enjoy.

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  • SiphonsSiphons Member Posts: 445

    No, there won't be a single player mode in Conan. On the site's FAQ it states the beginning of the game you'll be in an instanced world, but you ALWAYS play on an online server. So it's just a tutorial section like swg or something. NWN does NOT qualify to be on the site, lest we forget it's MMORPG.com

    Don't get me wrong though, I did enjoy the game in its time. ::::35::

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  • ElnatorElnator Member Posts: 6,077


    Originally posted by Eyemaze
    Originally posted by joejccva
    If you are referring to the "old" NWN that was hosted by America Online, well then yea it's an MMORPG that was one of the very first but it's no longer live. The game was cancelled years ago. If you are referring to the "new" NWN that you can buy in stores, well it shouldn't be on this website because it's not a MMORPG. It goes alongside Diablo II which is not an MMORPG. These are both multiplayer fantasy games. An MMORPG consists of NO single player mode at all, strictly multiplayer with an ongoing persistent gaming world where content changes with updates and everything runs while you aren't logged onto the game.
    NWN doesn't qualify as this type of game.Conan will have a single player mode.
    Not sure where you pulled your mmorpg description from, but stick it back up there; it stinks.


    BZZZZT WRONG
    Conan will have an instanced (SOLO) intro/tutorial like many other MMO's do but it will still be ONLINE on a SERVER where thousands of other players are sharing the same services. And once you finish the tutorial you get ejected into the general population.

    Might wanna go re-read that site before telling people they're wrong.

    From Webopedia: MMORPG:
    Short for massively multiplayer online role-playing game it is a type of game genre. MMORPGs are online role-playing multiplayer games which allow thousands of gamers to play in the game's evolving virtual world at the same time via the Internet.

    From Answers.com: MMORPG:
    A massively (or massive) multiplayer online role-playing game or MMORPG is a multiplayer computer role-playing game that enables thousands of players to play in an evolving virtual world at the same time over the Internet. MMORPGs are a specific type of massively multiplayer online game (MMOG).

    From Dictionary.LaborLawTalk.com: MMORPG:
    A massive(ly) multiplayer online role-playing game or MMORPG is a multiplayer computer role-playing game that enables thousands of players to play in an evolving virtual world at the same time over the Internet. MMORPGs are a specific type of massive(ly) multiplayer online game (MMOG).

    From National Encyclopedia Online: MMORPG:
    A massive (or massively) multiplayer online role-playing game or MMORPG is a multiplayer computer role-playing game that enables thousands of players to play in an evolving virtual world at the same time over the Internet. MMORPGs are a specific type of massively multiplayer online game (MMOG).


    Neverwinter Nights, as stated before. Is an excellent CORPG but it is NOT an MMORPG. Therefore it does not belong on this website.

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  • EyemazeEyemaze Member Posts: 26

    So by that logic just sharing the hardware makes it multiplayer?

    You are alone in that portion of the game, therefore that section of the game is single player. It is irrelevant to the gameplay how you are connected. The fact is you are playing the first portion of the game on your own.

    Argue the semantics all you want.

  • ElnatorElnator Member Posts: 6,077


    Originally posted by Eyemaze
    So by that logic just sharing the hardware makes it multiplayer?
    You are alone in that portion of the game, therefore that section of the game is single player. It is irrelevant to the gameplay how you are connected. The fact is you are playing the first portion of the game on your own.
    Argue the semantics all you want.

    That doesn't make the game not an MMORPG there friend. Because the GAME (not the tutorial) is played in a Massively Multiplayer format. Neverwinter Nights, no matter how much you want to argue it, is not.

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  • EyemazeEyemaze Member Posts: 26

    I am not suggesting NWN is a MMORPG. I was arguing the fact that a previous poster described a MMORPG as never havaing any single player content, which imho is bogus.

    I was involved with NWN from the very early days, I used to run hakpaks.com. I would most certainly not call it a MMORPG.

    Sadly I had more fun making content than playing the game. I felt the engine was too inflexible and too focused on combat.

  • ElnatorElnator Member Posts: 6,077


    Originally posted by Eyemaze
    I am not suggesting NWN is a MMORPG. I was arguing the fact that a previous poster described a MMORPG as never havaing any single player content, which imho is bogus.
    I was involved with NWN from the very early days, I used to run hakpaks.com. I would most certainly not call it a MMORPG.
    Sadly I had more fun making content than playing the game. I felt the engine was too inflexible and too focused on combat.

    Same... I got really tired of constantly having to go fight things. Very few real 'puzzles' in that game it was all 'must kill so and so'. (sorta like most MMO's LOL)

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  • anarchyartanarchyart Member Posts: 5,378



    Originally posted by Redevyl

    Iwas just wondering while I was looking through the list of games is that why isn't Neverwinter Nights on the list ? Then i come to find out that it doesn't meet "one" requirement--500+ players in a single world---::::21:: well personally i think it is the epitome of a mmorpg. It is to my knowlege the only mmorpg that allows the gaming community to host their own created sever worlds..via the arora tool set..and the creation of new items and scripting..CEP pack. I trully wish that this great game would be included for those not familiar to it.
    don't get me wrong there are alot of great games represented here minus Evercrack..::::12:: lol say no to crack lol just my opinion...



    Bashing Everquest is no way to get your point across. It may have had its faults, but it was arguably the biggest MMORPG ever and was inarguably my favorite playing experience to date in ANY game. Largely because of my guild Scarlet Sun, I saw what it was to have 62 people completely organized and working like one well oiled machine. That is an awesome thing to have, coming from WoW where it can be difficult to find 5 people on the same page.

    Neverwinter nights is good stuff too and I agree if Guild Wars can be here so should it image

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  • joejccva71joejccva71 Member UncommonPosts: 848


    Originally posted by Eyemaze
    I am not suggesting NWN is a MMORPG. I was arguing the fact that a previous poster described a MMORPG as never havaing any single player content, which imho is bogus.
    I was involved with NWN from the very early days, I used to run hakpaks.com. I would most certainly not call it a MMORPG.
    Sadly I had more fun making content than playing the game. I felt the engine was too inflexible and too focused on combat.


    Eyemaze please wake up and smell what you are shoveling before you make yourself look stupid again? I will say this one more time just in case you didn't understand.

    M = Massive
    M = M U L T I P L A Y E R (say it with me...MULLLLLLLLLTIIIIIIIPLAYYYYYERRRRRR)
    O = Online
    R = Role
    P = Playing
    G = Game


    How does SINNNNNNNNNNNNNNNGLEEEE player qualify as that? Regardless if this Conan game has a TUTORIAL part of the game where you play solo. The CONTENT of which the game was made is in an MMORPG setting making it MULLLLLLLLLLTIPLAYYYYYYYYYYYYYYER. Do you read me roger ramjet???

    So once again your point is irrelevant.

    Good luck to you sir.

  • EyemazeEyemaze Member Posts: 26

    It has a single player mode. However long or short that mode is. It exists. It is also a MMORPG.

    So if a game has a mode that lets you play alone OR play with 10,000 in a seamless world, according to you that is not a mmorpg? When does the amount of single player content make it into NOT a MMORPG? What if the tutorial was 20 of the 40 levels in the game?

    And I really could give two farts to the wind what a "hard Core Member" of mmorpg.com thinks of me, or how stupid I look.

     

    Just in case you think Funcom is underplaying the single player content as nothing more than a little tutorial.

     

    Funcom. On top of the setting, Funcom apparently plans to shake up the traditional massive formula. From the article: "Age of Conan: Hyborian Adventures will be a PC 'online action RPG' that will be a mix of 'story-driven single-player experience and a massive and brutal multiplayer endgame.' According to Funcom game director Gaute Godager, it will begin as a single-player RPG adventure, and when that portion's story is complete, it will let players bring their characters into an MMORPG universe."

  • joejccva71joejccva71 Member UncommonPosts: 848


    Originally posted by Eyemaze
    It has a single player mode. However long or short that mode is. It exists. It is also a MMORPG.
    So if a game has a mode that lets you play alone OR play with 10,000 in a seamless world, according to you that is not a mmorpg? When does the amount of single player content make it into NOT a MMORPG? What if the tutorial was 20 of the 40 levels in the game?
    And I really could give two farts to the wind what a "hard Core Member" of mmorpg.com thinks of me, or how stupid I look.
     
    Just in case you think Funcom is underplaying the single player content as nothing more than a little tutorial.
     
    Funcom. On top of the setting, Funcom apparently plans to shake up the traditional massive formula. From the article: "Age of Conan: Hyborian Adventures will be a PC 'online action RPG' that will be a mix of 'story-driven single-player experience and a massive and brutal multiplayer endgame.' According to Funcom game director Gaute Godager, it will begin as a single-player RPG adventure, and when that portion's story is complete, it will let players bring their characters into an MMORPG universe."


    What does my forum rank have ANYTHING to do with our conversation? Nothing. I made a point in the beginning of this thread and you responded without actually knowing what you were talking about. Even another guy tried to explain to you that you were incorrect but yet you seem to think you are.

    I'm going to let this one go and move on since you won't hear me out. So basically EVERY MMORPG has no single player EXCEPT this Conan game you are referring to and I guess that just makes me wrong on all accounts. Whatever floats your boat man. If proving me wrong on ONE game that probably 10% of the MMORPG world has even HEARD of, then my apologies to you sir.

    Take care.

  • EyemazeEyemaze Member Posts: 26

    Yes it makes you wrong; it also underlines the fact that the term mmorpg is arbitrary.
    Jst because one person says X is a mmorpg and another say Y isn't. MMORPG is not a definitive term. You all jumped on a guy for suggesting NWN was not a MMORPG because of X Y and Z.

    Fact is there is not clear delineation of what a MMORPG a point I am making and you clearly seem to be missing.

    S P E L L I NG STUFF IN ALL CAPS does not make your point or stance any more valid or correct.

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