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Is there an end to dumb parties in mmos?
QSatu
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Today I played in random party in FF XIV. People were nice overall but they were going afk in the middle of fight with mobs 7 lvls higher than us. (It happened 3 times with 2 different ppl). They don;t bother to stand next to each other to cast buffs. One of them simply went away for some stupid reason and then died 30 seconds into a fight b/c he didn;t have protect/stoneskin.
Then I played Lol. Dominion. And again 2 players went afk during a game. This mode only takes 15 min to complete so it doesn;t require you to stay at pc for too long.
really.. WTF? P_eople suck so hard it's not even funny.
My 1st and let;'s hope last rant == I'm so happy in GW2 I won't have to party with most of those idiots.
Tbh. There is nothing to discuss here but I needed to rant somewhere. Mods can close it if they want =p
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Don't kid yourself in believing it won't happen in GW2.
Velika: City of Wheels: Among the mortal races, the humans were the only one that never built cities or great empires; a curse laid upon them by their creator, Gidd, forced them to wander as nomads for twenty centuries...
It will but I will porpably won't bother to party in GW2 with random people. I mean we will play together but I won't try to depend on them. So I should say.. Thank yuo GW2 for scalable events. =]
You missed the one about a group member who has to show off how cool s/he is by splitting off from the group to go solo a wing of the dungeon by themselves, then comes running back in agony yelling that the healer isn't doing their job, and dragging along a ton of aggro that wipes the group.
Yes there is an end to dumb parties in MMO. It's called a good guild.
Remember Old School Ultima Online
Knock at the door, phone call, parents (if they live with), wife, kids, etc... RL has actual responsibility that takes precedence over game-time, even if you're in a group.
For every minute you are angry , you lose 60 seconds of happiness."-Emerson
When you play mmo in a group you actually play with real people on the other side. And it's bad manners to go afk and don;t even bother to say so or sorry after you come back. treating people like sh** speaks a lot of those people and rl resposibilities aren't an excuse here.
Sorry if a kid falls down and hurts themself, a wife needs something urgently, etc..
People in a pug be damned my mind most certainly wouldn't be on the group or writing in a text box.
For every minute you are angry , you lose 60 seconds of happiness."-Emerson
This can hapened everywhere but this is the magic of playing mmos
Dont give up making random partys because next one can be the best party you ever meet, again this is the magic of mmos
Accidents.. yes. It's important to act fast. The rest.. well it speaks a lot about the way people were raised imo. And the way they treat other people.
I have no responsibilities towards other people in the group; I have responsibilities in real life. Sure, it's polite to say "sorry, I have to go, don't wait for me", but if I have to stand up and go right away, I'll do it without second thought.
If you want things differently, join a guild with strong discipline. Me, I don't mind others logging off/going afk, because that's what I do myself.
Thankfully, GW2 will allow me to stop grouping alltogether, participating (and stopping the participation) in events whenever I feel like it without any consideration about others. Go GW2!
Nope mate thats not an excuse but the explanation. RL (kids,wife) HAVE priority of any game and YOU are the person who yet has to learn that. Its not treating people like shit but relying on their commons sense and understanding.
We could also call that generations-conflict in games. Just ask the age of you party memebers and if nobody is > 15 you should be good to go with nothing interupting but someones mom calling to bring the trash out...
There's one thing all of my parties/premades have had in common: we were either really good friends in real life or we were not raised in a North American culture.
In Asia, it is EXTREMELY rude to walk off, go afk, regardless of the game, or situation at hand. Every situation is given an equal amount of respect. My grand father fell down the stairs, broke his hip bone, and died at the hospital a week later. I was the only one in the house. When I heard the fall, I quickly typed in Final Fantasy XI "gotta go, emergency" and hit the log off button. Took less than 10 seconds considering how fast everyone types and how - down, enter are to press. In WoW, League and others it's even easier, type and alt+F4.
My mother recently had a suicidal outbreak while I was at work, I promptly typed an email to my supervisor, went back home, fixed my damn mother, and came back to work ready for an onslaught of "why did you leave work so urgently". I gave no excuses, I constantly apologized and bowed my head.
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Yes there is its called dedicated guilds.
We need a MMORPG Cataclysm asap, finish the dark age of MMORPGS now!
"Everything you're bitching about is wrong. People don't have the time to invest in corpse runs, impossible zones, or long winded quests. Sometimes, they just want to pop on and play."
"Then maybe MMORPGs aren't for you."
Exactly.
"What is truly revealing is his implication that believing something to be true is the same as it being true. [continue]" -John Oliver
Hmm, there hasn't been any end to Stupid PuG Syndrome since PuGs first appeared--so I'm going to have to go with "no".
Used to be common in games for players having issues to get some result like:
"Damn we're having a horrible time."
"?What's wrong?"
"Running with a horrible pug, this is crazy bad."
"Well, there's your problem--don't PuG."
But so many people are so totally focused on solo play that it's not such a great answer any more, even if it's true.
Self-pity imprisons us in the walls of our own self-absorption. The whole world shrinks down to the size of our problem, and the more we dwell on it, the smaller we are and the larger the problem seems to grow.
The only PUGs that irritate me are ones where leetz complain.
If you join a PUG be realistic and expect all levels of players.
There is nothing worse imho when the group is happy to just play the game and tolerate each others' foibles, only to have to listen to a whining, leet uber-player.
A few years ago it seemed the better players helped the others, and PUGs were conducted in a spirit of cooperation and good humour.
In summary: PUGs today are risky and I, too, recommend guild runs - don't let leetz ruin your game.
I'm not American. I'm Eastern European. And in the same situation I would apologise once, and if he continued, I would say "because I wanted to. So fire me or get lost."
*shudders* I can't imagine living the life you live.
It is funny, if you think about it. Well, it is funny as I think about it. There have always been some variant of the "bad" PUG - but I definitely find the experience can be made worse by the so-called ELITE player.
Back in the day PUG - dookie happened: folks would talk about what went wrong, offer suggestions, work together to get the job done, and even if it took longer - it was still an enjoyable experience.
Modern PUG - dookie happens: folks start bitching at each other, pointing fingers, kick folks that disagree, and so many other things that leave you simply not wanting to play with others again.
No doubt there were the PvE Griefers back in the day too - but it was not as anonymous as it tends to be now with the cross-shard LFG tools, etc.
As for solutions, you don't have to join a guild. You can just play with other people and put together a friends list . . . you can see if anybody is putting together that /trade PUG sort of thing - if you enjoy playing with those folks, you make a note of it.
If you play Russian Roulette with LFG tools... well, sometimes there's going to be a bullet waiting for you.
I miss the MMORPG genre. Will a developer ever make one again?
Explorer: 87%, Killer: 67%, Achiever: 27%, Socializer: 20%
Haha lol !
THAT is a bag PUG for you ?
I had a PUG with a tank that would reliably let me die if I healed her TWICE. Over and over again. And I couldnt just stop healing her because she didnt bothered to heal herself, either (she was a Dread Knight, which indeed arent too keen on aggro, but they have quite impressive self healing). I used all tricks, like keeping maximum distance, not dealing any damage myself, and still after only two healing spells I was dead meat.
I had a PUG with another tank, this time as a DPS. All I did was doing my lowest damage spell every time my deaggro skill was up, then using the deaggro skill, while standing again at maximum distance. I still kept being slaughtered. Basically I apparently was supposed to stand around, doing nothing at all.
As I play tanks in the same game myself (Vanguard), I can assure you thats not normal at all. Yes aggro is hard work in Vanguard. But nowhere as drastic as this. Especially if you see your healer(s) have problems, you damn sure reserve your rescues for them, and you keep healing yourself as well as possible. And if you only have to handle a single mob, losing aggro is really rare (no luck with crits + someone else has a lot of luck with them).
i am with this one since it boggles my mind how someone can even think about doing anything BUT helping your RL attached person then moment it happens. priority-check ?
i'm WITH this guy.
he had his priorities right. he's just advocating some multi-tasking is all.
LoL community is totally fucked
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The only way to play an mmo is with your actual friends :P
Agreed, some americans need to learn respect others than themselves.