The game has been created to be played in a certain way which includes listening to voice-overs. But you want to skip that because it slows you down. There are many types of games but this game has been made with this aspect included and you want to skip it because it somehow makes you feel you are being hampered by having to listen to these voice-overs. Then may be the game has not been created with you in mind.
I can only listen to 5 voice actors telling me to kill 10 rats so many times. Also, I can read faster than the voice overs, so its frusrating. I'm not even trying to rush to max level or anything, it just gives me a headache having to wait and listen to a side quest for 30sec to a min when I could read the same information in 15 seconds.
Most of the kill X of Y quests are optional bonuses that require no questgiver. I found most of the quests interesting and well acted. In my OPINION.
My point just is that sometimes I would rather be able to just read a transcript instead of having to listen to the cutscenes, at least for side quests. I remember there being a lot of generic sidequests that came from quest givers. And just because you turn "Kill 10 rats" into "These people destroyed my family, kill them all! 0/10" doesnt mean its a different quest.
The game has been created to be played in a certain way which includes listening to voice-overs. But you want to skip that because it slows you down. There are many types of games but this game has been made with this aspect included and you want to skip it because it somehow makes you feel you are being hampered by having to listen to these voice-overs. Then may be the game has not been created with you in mind.
I can only listen to 5 voice actors telling me to kill 10 rats so many times. Also, I can read faster than the voice overs, so its frusrating. I'm not even trying to rush to max level or anything, it just gives me a headache having to wait and listen to a side quest for 30sec to a min when I could read the same information in 15 seconds.
Or click the accept button in .5 seconds, my point exactly.
I still want to know that the quest is about, I just dont want to have to listen to it and wait for the person to say it as I can easily read much faster than they talk.
To say that I should just hit the accept button is to ignore the larger issue at hand.
Where has all the spirit of playing a game gone ?. Have we become so jaded we cannot honestly spend a few seconds listening to a conversation. You are not reading a board or receiving a letter with instructions. You are talking to someone. It is perfectly natural for the person to talk to you and tell you about the quest and you cannot get into that spirit and listen to the quest but you need to grouse about it. At least do it once then you get an option to skip over the dialogue but to prefer reading because you just cannot get into a game is becoming absurd. Everything has to be sped up and rushed these days in people's lives that you must get the .5s econd option over the 20 second one. I get it we are indeed in a rat race and as a rat one cannot afford to dally even in a game.
The game has been created to be played in a certain way which includes listening to voice-overs. But you want to skip that because it slows you down. There are many types of games but this game has been made with this aspect included and you want to skip it because it somehow makes you feel you are being hampered by having to listen to these voice-overs. Then may be the game has not been created with you in mind.
I can only listen to 5 voice actors telling me to kill 10 rats so many times. Also, I can read faster than the voice overs, so its frusrating. I'm not even trying to rush to max level or anything, it just gives me a headache having to wait and listen to a side quest for 30sec to a min when I could read the same information in 15 seconds.
Or click the accept button in .5 seconds, my point exactly.
I still want to know that the quest is about, I just dont want to have to listen to it and wait for the person to say it as I can easily read much faster than they talk.
To say that I should just hit the accept button is to ignore the larger issue at hand.
You still will know what the quest is about when you hit spacebar. Your quest log gives you a short paragraph of what the quest involves once you've accepted it. So if reading every side quest isn't your thing, then simply spacebar through the conversation, and once you accept the quest go into your log for the short and sweet version.
You still will know what the quest is about when you hit spacebar. Your quest log gives you a short paragraph of what the quest involves once you've accepted it. So if reading every side quest isn't your thing, then simply spacebar through the conversation, and once you accept the quest go into your log for the short and sweet version.
Out of curiosity, can you turn the V.O. and cutscenes off...?
nos sure... but i know u can skip them with space bar
Unfortunately, I asked my question there not realizing that doing so meant you missed out on what was going on because of there not being the text equivalent.
Not a case of wanting to skip the story, just choose the manner of that delivery...
I miss the MMORPG genre. Will a developer ever make one again?
While I don't necesarly agree with OP in many things, and I enjoy story in game - I don't see why VO has such appeal, actually I prefer reading over VO, kinda leave many things to imagination which I like, not to mention that paraphrasing and some voices just getting on my nerves, especially if game VO my own character. (if this case with Swtor?)
Same here. I usually go to settings and turn subtitles on and voice volume to zero.
When I want a single-player story, I'll play a single-player game. When I play an MMO, I want a massively multiplayer world.
There seems to be some confusion as to how the VO works in this game. First off, this isn't just your regular quest text that is read aloud, after which you click accept. It is also not a cutscene that you sit back and watch and then click accept. These are full blown conversations in which you interact. You are talking with someone about a situation....you are not just a spectator. Also, toggling off the cinematics just bypasses the videos that play when you launch the game. The quest dialogues are not cinematics....or cutscenes in a classic sense. Hope that clears up some confusion. Yeah, you can use the space bar to skip to the end of a line of dialogue, and then just read the subtitles. But skipping the dialogues entirely is not possible. They are part of the game, and as much a part of your character development as how you spend your points when you get a level.....if not more so.
What you are saying OP is that you have no clue about what you are saying. In every case, players streaming have said either they do not want to spoil the story for launch or they don't want to spoil the story for those who are watching.
It is also nice to see that there are options for leveling for those who want different ways to gain XP. You can PvP over and over at level 10+ to gain XP and levels. You can also gain XP thorugh the space mini-game and flashpoints. So even if you don't like the story as the OP, you can still play the game AS AN MMO to gain XP and levels.
Thanks for a cluless opinion based on nothing OP. I guess you can see for yourself this weekend. That is if you take off your blinders first.
How many people long for that "past, simpler, and better world," I wonder, without ever recognizing the truth that perhaps it was they who were simpler and better, and not the world about them? R.A.Salvatore
Originally posted by VirusDancer Originally posted by lizardbones
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I would be willing to bet that it just wouldn't have occurred to anyone in the design process that there would be a significant number of people who would want to read a transcript of the quest giver's dialog before accepting a quest. Yeah, the thing with the captions for the cutscenes was most likely done for the hearing impaired rather than for the readers.
There are also several NPCs that don't speak English (or whatever your language of choice is). I think the captions come up for those segments regardless of your settings.
However, if you turned the VO off, turned subtitles on and just hit the space bar when you're done reading, you'd have the information, without the wait. Bioware probably figured that would be 'good enough' for people to play the game. You could also just tap the space bar until your character starts jumping and then read your mission log.
I can not remember winning or losing a single debate on the internet.
When it comes down to it, TOR is really just another themepark MMO that most will be bored of in 3-6 months. Hopefully we'll see some worthwhile MMOs come out in my lifetime but if not I'll continue to play the only two MMOs worth playing imo.
Originally posted by Locklain People will never be happy... Most complain just to hear themselves complain. I have been in the beta for a year now and the only ones that I hear complaining about the VO are those that are trying to rush their way to 50. They can't just click "Accept" for the quest and buzz on so they can get to the end and complain about no one being there.
I haven t been in quite a year, but I agree with this statement. On that note, what exactly is the rush nowadays anyways.
Uber l33t and e-peen comparisons. Guilds that try to be "the best in game" (however that is measured, I certainly do not know) vying for some elusive "top spot."
For some, it is a race to "beat the game" and move on to the next new thing.
- Al
Personally the only modern MMORPG trend that annoys me is the idea that MMOs need to be designed in a way to attract people who don't actually like MMOs. Which to me makes about as much sense as someone trying to figure out a way to get vegetarians to eat at their steakhouse. - FARGIN_WAR
When it comes down to it, TOR is really just another themepark MMO that most will be bored of in 3-6 months. Hopefully we'll see some worthwhile MMOs come out in my lifetime but if not I'll continue to play the only two MMOs worth playing imo.
What two MMOs? If I may ask?
How many people long for that "past, simpler, and better world," I wonder, without ever recognizing the truth that perhaps it was they who were simpler and better, and not the world about them? R.A.Salvatore
I'm not playing the bata yet. I will be come friday......What gives me the right to even give my opinion ?....Well, I have a real time web site to watch others play Video games. So I've been watching several people playing SWTOR for the past few days.
This web site gives perfect quality along with great audio. In every case the players are trying to maintain a great attitude. There all mmo players and StarWars fans. They are narrating every move, some are even doing questions and answers using a side chat built into the web site.......They are playing as if they had been playing this mmo for years.
IN EVERY CASE THEY ARE GETTING EXTREMELY TIRED OF THE VOICE ACTING. There trying not to bitch. There trying to maintain a good experience, but many comments are coming out anyway. Every two minutes they are going into dialog, at times they last several minutes. You can see that there adrenalin is flowing, yet BAMMM another long dialog. Lots of frustration.
Theme Park, Sandbox, Bull crap in my OPINION :
The game seems to be on rails, they tell you how to play. It's not an open world of do what ever. I don't call it an mmo if you have to instance into PvP or Dungeons to play with others. Some would, but not me. Once they add a dungeon finder it will really be over. Guilds will become worthless and you could just wipe out your friends list because you will not be playing with them anymore......just like Rift......In two months time all will see are the hardcore StarWars fans !....BioWare will call it a success because they made millions off box sales.
My game plan :
As with all bata's, I always play a character class that would not be my first choice, along with the opposed faction, so I don't kill my experience after release.
But In the case of SWTOR I'll be playing my first choice. And skip the game. It will be like a fun, short single player game, with a little bit a grouping for dungeons and PvP....Just like Rift !
:Facepalm: I'm really hoping this is a troll post.
Sometimes I wonder why people even play RPGs anymore. This isn't an FPS nor is it some small scale Mario World. If you want a game that takes you from 1-50 in 60 seconds, go back to WoW. I'm tired of people who play RPG's that are in such a damn rush to get to the end. Don't want to enjoy a good storyline? Fine. Don't want to explore and craft? Fine. I'm beginning to understand why so many people get upset when niche groups of people want to make game changing issues to suit their needs. Sorry, but, not everyone wants what you want. I want what BioWare is offering with SWTOR. I hope they don't change a thing because some WoW fanboy thats used to childish social chat and random asshats spouting gear scores is unhappy with the pace of the game. Frankly, I hope WoW stays as strong as it is, cause last thing I want is WoW players coming to SWTOR.
No offense, but WoW truely has the worst community ever... EVAH!
You sound just as bad as the players you speak ill of. Some people never learn.
"Small minds talk about people, average minds talk about events, great minds talk about ideas."
I'm not playing the bata yet. I will be come friday......What gives me the right to even give my opinion ?....Well, I have a real time web site to watch others play Video games. So I've been watching several people playing SWTOR for the past few days.
This web site gives perfect quality along with great audio. In every case the players are trying to maintain a great attitude. There all mmo players and StarWars fans. They are narrating every move, some are even doing questions and answers using a side chat built into the web site.......They are playing as if they had been playing this mmo for years.
IN EVERY CASE THEY ARE GETTING EXTREMELY TIRED OF THE VOICE ACTING. There trying not to bitch. There trying to maintain a good experience, but many comments are coming out anyway. Every two minutes they are going into dialog, at times they last several minutes. You can see that there adrenalin is flowing, yet BAMMM another long dialog. Lots of frustration.
Theme Park, Sandbox, Bull crap in my OPINION :
The game seems to be on rails, they tell you how to play. It's not an open world of do what ever. I don't call it an mmo if you have to instance into PvP or Dungeons to play with others. Some would, but not me. Once they add a dungeon finder it will really be over. Guilds will become worthless and you could just wipe out your friends list because you will not be playing with them anymore......just like Rift......In two months time all will see are the hardcore StarWars fans !....BioWare will call it a success because they made millions off box sales.
My game plan :
As with all bata's, I always play a character class that would not be my first choice, along with the opposed faction, so I don't kill my experience after release.
But In the case of SWTOR I'll be playing my first choice. And skip the game. It will be like a fun, short single player game, with a little bit a grouping for dungeons and PvP....Just like Rift !
You couldn't be more wrong if you stood on top of the mountain in furry panties and screamed WoW was the first mmo. Play the game before you go blabbering opinions. The voice acting is great, it's a story driven so you can become more immersed in your character's story line. You know, like mmorpgs were back when this all started. It's not your average kill, loot, return for xp reward with no story line.
Most often I find that those who are overly critical about the voice-acting or storyline are either:
NOT Star Wars Fans, or are the UBER picky ones
Or are preferable to the K-L-T ( Kill, Loot, Turn-in ) without any semblance of halt between the three. In short, powergamers.
It's a STORY-BASED game, and has NEVER been advertised as anything other than an MMO with VOs. If you don't like them, it doesn't make sense to play the game. In fact, if you're NOT favorable to the constant dialogue ( which, again, was never disguised and strongly promoted from the get-go ) I'm certain WoW's Panda expansion will continue to provide you with quest-text to blatantly disregard at your leisure.
I'm not playing the bata yet. I will be come friday......What gives me the right to even give my opinion ?....Well, I have a real time web site to watch others play Video games. So I've been watching several people playing SWTOR for the past few days.
This web site gives perfect quality along with great audio. In every case the players are trying to maintain a great attitude. There all mmo players and StarWars fans. They are narrating every move, some are even doing questions and answers using a side chat built into the web site.......They are playing as if they had been playing this mmo for years.
IN EVERY CASE THEY ARE GETTING EXTREMELY TIRED OF THE VOICE ACTING. There trying not to bitch. There trying to maintain a good experience, but many comments are coming out anyway. Every two minutes they are going into dialog, at times they last several minutes. You can see that there adrenalin is flowing, yet BAMMM another long dialog. Lots of frustration.
Theme Park, Sandbox, Bull crap in my OPINION :
The game seems to be on rails, they tell you how to play. It's not an open world of do what ever. I don't call it an mmo if you have to instance into PvP or Dungeons to play with others. Some would, but not me. Once they add a dungeon finder it will really be over. Guilds will become worthless and you could just wipe out your friends list because you will not be playing with them anymore......just like Rift......In two months time all will see are the hardcore StarWars fans !....BioWare will call it a success because they made millions off box sales.
My game plan :
As with all bata's, I always play a character class that would not be my first choice, along with the opposed faction, so I don't kill my experience after release.
But In the case of SWTOR I'll be playing my first choice. And skip the game. It will be like a fun, short single player game, with a little bit a grouping for dungeons and PvP....Just like Rift !
You really have no Idea what a MMO is, any game that supports a large number of people in one server is a "Massive Multiplayer Game" or (MMO), Sw:tor is a MMO-RPG (Role-Playing-Game) and the story just adds to the Role Playing aspect of the game, so you topic thread hold no weight.
From what I read in your post you seem to like MMO's but not MMORPG's, you seem to want a game that lets you play with others but with no story or role to play and that's fine but that's not Sw:tor you want maybe a Multiplayer FPS or a Facebook MMO like WoW, "a jump in BAM lets get this done fast type game" Sw:tor is not that game, this game is about story, roleplaying with MMO aspects tied into it.
one last thing you knew where I got tire of voice acting, running through the same quests for the same class over and over for new quests and new classes no way whats so ever did I ever get bored.
So an rpg with voice acting doesnt qualify as an MMO... You wrote a lot of text but clearly you didnt think about that statement before you made it.
THe problem with past MMORPGs are they took the RP out of the game, so it just became a massive online game, with no story and no purpuse besids pwning other players, not unlike a mindless fps game. Now that bioware has done this level of story telling it will change the genre, trust me.
Once you actually play the game, like i have you will see that this level of cinimatic story telling adds so much to the game, that you will miss not having it in past games. Or at the very least get you to shut the fuck up, because complaining about too much voice acting is ridiculous.
Quotations Those Who make peaceful resolutions impossible, make violent resolutions inevitable. John F. Kennedy
Life... is the shit that happens while you wait for moments that never come - Lester Freeman
Lie to no one. If there 's somebody close to you, you'll ruin it with a lie. If they're a stranger, who the fuck are they you gotta lie to them? - Willy Nelson
I usually hate leveling and questing in games but I love how tor does it, for me personallly it took the grind away and i never had this much fun with questing and leveling.
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My point just is that sometimes I would rather be able to just read a transcript instead of having to listen to the cutscenes, at least for side quests. I remember there being a lot of generic sidequests that came from quest givers. And just because you turn "Kill 10 rats" into "These people destroyed my family, kill them all! 0/10" doesnt mean its a different quest.
Well a single tap of the space bar won't skip all of the VO. You have to spam it to skip each segment of the conversation which was really annoying.
I still want to know that the quest is about, I just dont want to have to listen to it and wait for the person to say it as I can easily read much faster than they talk.
To say that I should just hit the accept button is to ignore the larger issue at hand.
nos sure... but i know u can skip them with space bar
Where has all the spirit of playing a game gone ?. Have we become so jaded we cannot honestly spend a few seconds listening to a conversation. You are not reading a board or receiving a letter with instructions. You are talking to someone. It is perfectly natural for the person to talk to you and tell you about the quest and you cannot get into that spirit and listen to the quest but you need to grouse about it. At least do it once then you get an option to skip over the dialogue but to prefer reading because you just cannot get into a game is becoming absurd. Everything has to be sped up and rushed these days in people's lives that you must get the .5s econd option over the 20 second one. I get it we are indeed in a rat race and as a rat one cannot afford to dally even in a game.
You still will know what the quest is about when you hit spacebar. Your quest log gives you a short paragraph of what the quest involves once you've accepted it. So if reading every side quest isn't your thing, then simply spacebar through the conversation, and once you accept the quest go into your log for the short and sweet version.
I'll have to look into that. Thanks.
Unfortunately, I asked my question there not realizing that doing so meant you missed out on what was going on because of there not being the text equivalent.
Not a case of wanting to skip the story, just choose the manner of that delivery...
I miss the MMORPG genre. Will a developer ever make one again?
Explorer: 87%, Killer: 67%, Achiever: 27%, Socializer: 20%
Same here. I usually go to settings and turn subtitles on and voice volume to zero.
When I want a single-player story, I'll play a single-player game. When I play an MMO, I want a massively multiplayer world.
First off, this isn't just your regular quest text that is read aloud, after which you click accept.
It is also not a cutscene that you sit back and watch and then click accept.
These are full blown conversations in which you interact. You are talking with someone about a situation....you are not just a spectator.
Also, toggling off the cinematics just bypasses the videos that play when you launch the game. The quest dialogues are not cinematics....or cutscenes in a classic sense.
Hope that clears up some confusion. Yeah, you can use the space bar to skip to the end of a line of dialogue, and then just read the subtitles. But skipping the dialogues entirely is not possible. They are part of the game, and as much a part of your character development as how you spend your points when you get a level.....if not more so.
What you are saying OP is that you have no clue about what you are saying. In every case, players streaming have said either they do not want to spoil the story for launch or they don't want to spoil the story for those who are watching.
It is also nice to see that there are options for leveling for those who want different ways to gain XP. You can PvP over and over at level 10+ to gain XP and levels. You can also gain XP thorugh the space mini-game and flashpoints. So even if you don't like the story as the OP, you can still play the game AS AN MMO to gain XP and levels.
Thanks for a cluless opinion based on nothing OP. I guess you can see for yourself this weekend. That is if you take off your blinders first.
How many people long for that "past, simpler, and better world," I wonder, without ever recognizing the truth that perhaps it was they who were simpler and better, and not the world about them?
R.A.Salvatore
I would be willing to bet that it just wouldn't have occurred to anyone in the design process that there would be a significant number of people who would want to read a transcript of the quest giver's dialog before accepting a quest.
Yeah, the thing with the captions for the cutscenes was most likely done for the hearing impaired rather than for the readers.
There are also several NPCs that don't speak English (or whatever your language of choice is). I think the captions come up for those segments regardless of your settings.
However, if you turned the VO off, turned subtitles on and just hit the space bar when you're done reading, you'd have the information, without the wait. Bioware probably figured that would be 'good enough' for people to play the game. You could also just tap the space bar until your character starts jumping and then read your mission log.
I can not remember winning or losing a single debate on the internet.
When it comes down to it, TOR is really just another themepark MMO that most will be bored of in 3-6 months. Hopefully we'll see some worthwhile MMOs come out in my lifetime but if not I'll continue to play the only two MMOs worth playing imo.
"I play Tera for the gameplay"
For some, it is a race to "beat the game" and move on to the next new thing.
- Al
Personally the only modern MMORPG trend that annoys me is the idea that MMOs need to be designed in a way to attract people who don't actually like MMOs. Which to me makes about as much sense as someone trying to figure out a way to get vegetarians to eat at their steakhouse.- FARGIN_WAR
What two MMOs? If I may ask?
How many people long for that "past, simpler, and better world," I wonder, without ever recognizing the truth that perhaps it was they who were simpler and better, and not the world about them?
R.A.Salvatore
:Facepalm: I'm really hoping this is a troll post.
You sound just as bad as the players you speak ill of. Some people never learn.
"Small minds talk about people, average minds talk about events, great minds talk about ideas."
"Spacebar" to skip through the voice acting portions. (Dialogue text will still be available to read.)
Certain cinematics can be skipped entirely (Options).
~ Ancient Membership ~
You couldn't be more wrong if you stood on top of the mountain in furry panties and screamed WoW was the first mmo. Play the game before you go blabbering opinions. The voice acting is great, it's a story driven so you can become more immersed in your character's story line. You know, like mmorpgs were back when this all started. It's not your average kill, loot, return for xp reward with no story line.
Most often I find that those who are overly critical about the voice-acting or storyline are either:
NOT Star Wars Fans, or are the UBER picky ones
Or are preferable to the K-L-T ( Kill, Loot, Turn-in ) without any semblance of halt between the three. In short, powergamers.
It's a STORY-BASED game, and has NEVER been advertised as anything other than an MMO with VOs. If you don't like them, it doesn't make sense to play the game. In fact, if you're NOT favorable to the constant dialogue ( which, again, was never disguised and strongly promoted from the get-go ) I'm certain WoW's Panda expansion will continue to provide you with quest-text to blatantly disregard at your leisure.
You really have no Idea what a MMO is, any game that supports a large number of people in one server is a "Massive Multiplayer Game" or (MMO), Sw:tor is a MMO-RPG (Role-Playing-Game) and the story just adds to the Role Playing aspect of the game, so you topic thread hold no weight.
From what I read in your post you seem to like MMO's but not MMORPG's, you seem to want a game that lets you play with others but with no story or role to play and that's fine but that's not Sw:tor you want maybe a Multiplayer FPS or a Facebook MMO like WoW, "a jump in BAM lets get this done fast type game" Sw:tor is not that game, this game is about story, roleplaying with MMO aspects tied into it.
they never climes to be a sandbox.
the only sandbox game out there is
EVE, fallen earth to a degree, mortal online and Dark Fall Online.
Everything else is a linear game. And who said you couldnt go where you want?
one last thing you knew where I got tire of voice acting, running through the same quests for the same class over and over for new quests and new classes no way whats so ever did I ever get bored.
So an rpg with voice acting doesnt qualify as an MMO... You wrote a lot of text but clearly you didnt think about that statement before you made it.
THe problem with past MMORPGs are they took the RP out of the game, so it just became a massive online game, with no story and no purpuse besids pwning other players, not unlike a mindless fps game. Now that bioware has done this level of story telling it will change the genre, trust me.
Once you actually play the game, like i have you will see that this level of cinimatic story telling adds so much to the game, that you will miss not having it in past games. Or at the very least get you to shut the fuck up, because complaining about too much voice acting is ridiculous.
Quotations Those Who make peaceful resolutions impossible, make violent resolutions inevitable. John F. Kennedy
Life... is the shit that happens while you wait for moments that never come - Lester Freeman
Lie to no one. If there 's somebody close to you, you'll ruin it with a lie. If they're a stranger, who the fuck are they you gotta lie to them? - Willy Nelson
I usually hate leveling and questing in games but I love how tor does it, for me personallly it took the grind away and i never had this much fun with questing and leveling.