but you miss the point this is launch. It is like a basketball game you get tickets to but they tell the people that bought first they can see the first period and you get to come in during the 2nd period. I can judge them off of that decision also. Yes at 2nd period there is going to be a flood of people coming in getting into seats causing problems at bathrooms and concession stands, but the game is already going. Whether you are outside with a ticket, waiting to buy a ticket, or just watching from across the street all can judge how it is going based of what they see from their point of view.
I could make the most techinically flaws less game that lets millions log in with no errors, ques, or server crashes, but if the way I sell or let the people into the game sucks due to a business practice my launch is sucks.
Judge based on what you want, I missed no point. You're missing mine, I don't care what you want to judge it on, I'm not basing my opinion on your experience. I flatly laid out what I will personally judge it on.
Second, if I can't buy the game on a store shelf, or purchase a none pre-order digital copy the game hasn't launched.
For every minute you are angry , you lose 60 seconds of happiness."-Emerson
Game opened for headstart, I can't buy the game, it has not been released for retail, which is what launch is.
Next...
Oh wait...you can still pre-order, download the client and hope to get in before the 20th. SW:ToR Pre-Order Front Page of Game. Game might not have "officially" launched, but it has launched and people are playing. As soon as the servers went live it launched. Spin it all you want...but the game is open and providing service.
By the way Francis, you wrote that highly defensive monster paragraph in response to a simple question. Tu quoque.
Self-pity imprisons us in the walls of our own self-absorption. The whole world shrinks down to the size of our problem, and the more we dwell on it, the smaller we are and the larger the problem seems to grow.
Game opened for headstart, I can't buy the game, it has not been released for retail, which is what launch is.
Next...
Oh wait...you can still pre-order, download the client and hope to get in before the 20th. SW:ToR Pre-Order Front Page of Game. Game might not have "officially" launched, but it has launched and people are playing. As soon as the servers went live it launched. Spin it all you want...but the game is open and providing service.
Game opened for headstart, I can't buy the game, it has not been released for retail, which is what launch is.
Next...
Oh wait...you can still pre-order, download the client and hope to get in before the 20th. SW:ToR Pre-Order Front Page of Game. Game might not have "officially" launched, but it has launched and people are playing. As soon as the servers went live it launched. Spin it all you want...but the game is open and providing service.
A pre-order is not a retail copy... You said it yourself, this is not the offcial launch, a launched game is a game that I can go buy install and play. Only then will the true launch test begin.
And spin, really? WHo's trying to spin what a released game is? You are playing headstart almost all MMO's have had that, I'm using the terms applied you're trying to move the goal posts.
For every minute you are angry , you lose 60 seconds of happiness."-Emerson
I cannot judge on the servers, but the staggered launch idea was horrible and can be seen by checking the official forums nerdrage. I would much rather sit in a que showing the numbers in front of me, then sit on my e-mail clicking refresh hoping to randomly get an e-mail. Also rated it as bad as half of most peoples guilds are in the game playing, and getting a huge headstart on the rest of the players(same with familys and friends being split up) and preventing them from leveling together.
As for launch, yes even BW stated it's launched in their official startup message.. hard to deny it as launch when you see the developers posting it has launched haha..
I am still confused by what the difference is between this and just having people sit in queue's. If the goal is to avoid :ZOMG WE ARE IN QUEUE's"...you better stagger it over a month because this is sort of pointless.
It is like they are still stress testing the servers. If the goal is to ensure 50/50% balance between the faction that has already failed because the servers are not locking when full.
All this is doing is making people angry. So I paid the same amount as you, but you get more game time then me?? In game vanity shop only accesible by the highest payers....in game access only accesible by the highest payers. There are hints at the direction the game is already headed.
People make the most awful comparisons on this website. Basketball game to an MMO? Really? You ran that idea through your head and it made sense?
People are mistaking early access, a luxury, for something EVERYONE was owed. That's simply not the case...
A better use of your god awful basketball example would be to compare how people that buy tickets sooner get better seats...
Your post was about as useful as belly button lint because people who buy better seats don't get an earlier performance.
(how was that comparison?)
Unless I missed something really small there is no beating that.
Also may ask those arguing about it not being released(if that's the summarization), if you asked the guys playing what would they say? If they or you say it's just early access and not a release, slap em for me please.
I might get banned for this. - Rizel Star.
I'm not afraid to tell trolls what they [need] to hear, even if that means for me to have an forced absence afterwards.
P2P LOGIC = If it's P2P it means longevity, overall better game, and THE BEST SUPPORT EVER!!!!!(Which has been rinsed and repeated about a thousand times)
Common Sense Logic = P2P logic is no better than F2P Logic.
Also may ask those arguing about it not being released(if that's the summarization), if you asked the guys playing what would they say? If they or you say it's just early access and not a release, slap em for me please.
It's been released And so far, launch has been unimaginably smooth.
Bioware will be hard to beat.
Now...is the game perfect? Not even close. But it's the best MMO to be released in 8+ years imo.
No wait, no lag, no queue, perfectly smooth, not at all glitchy and with an incredible level of polish.
Then again, I was in the first invite group yesterday.
Yep, and everybody that is still waiting would grade it a lot lower out of RAAAAAGE!
Granted, I think after yesterday, they proved the servers worked, everything was fine, thet should have just let the masses in.. But 'eh, I'm not Bioware, so maybe my logic need not apply. But, I can't complain, I was first wave invited, but it sucks for me cause my Wife's account, and my 2 gaming friends are stuck waiting for god know what wave to get in.
So even though I can log in and play, can't play my character of choice having to wait for others. So.. yay.. crafting...??????
(*yawn*) c'mon Bioware, let the people in!
Hey TSW Players http://www.unfair.co/ for Mission guides, Lore Locations and stuff....
I have been happy with this launch. No email means I did something else. Got my email, I can actually log in and play no wasted time. No hours long queue to suffer through and waste my time in.
People make the most awful comparisons on this website. Basketball game to an MMO? Really? You ran that idea through your head and it made sense?
People are mistaking early access, a luxury, for something EVERYONE was owed. That's simply not the case...
A better use of your god awful basketball example would be to compare how people that buy tickets sooner get better seats...
Your post was about as useful as belly button lint because people who buy better seats don't get an earlier performance.
(how was that comparison?)
Precisely why I said it was an awful comparison. Reading comprehension please before rushing to troll.
I don't understand why arguing semantics - Can't we just agree that the 'launch' here isn't as black and white as some people want to make it out to be? It's a progressive launch - get over it.
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Judge based on what you want, I missed no point. You're missing mine, I don't care what you want to judge it on, I'm not basing my opinion on your experience. I flatly laid out what I will personally judge it on.
Second, if I can't buy the game on a store shelf, or purchase a none pre-order digital copy the game hasn't launched.
For every minute you are angry , you lose 60 seconds of happiness."-Emerson
People make the most awful comparisons on this website. Basketball game to an MMO? Really? You ran that idea through your head and it made sense?
People are mistaking early access, a luxury, for something EVERYONE was owed. That's simply not the case...
A better use of your god awful basketball example would be to compare how people that buy tickets sooner get better seats...
/Thread finished.
Next!
Game opened its doors for business on the 13th...
/thread finished
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Game opened for headstart, I can't buy the game, it has not been released for retail, which is what launch is.
Next...
For every minute you are angry , you lose 60 seconds of happiness."-Emerson
So you're trying to conduct a general poll when a fracton of the playerbase can actually play?
You honestly think MMO's are the only ones that have a 'soft' release?
Some of you people are pretty dense
- Holding onto semantics entirely too much.
Oh wait...you can still pre-order, download the client and hope to get in before the 20th. SW:ToR Pre-Order Front Page of Game. Game might not have "officially" launched, but it has launched and people are playing. As soon as the servers went live it launched. Spin it all you want...but the game is open and providing service.
So you're denying it.
By the way Francis, you wrote that highly defensive monster paragraph in response to a simple question. Tu quoque.
Self-pity imprisons us in the walls of our own self-absorption. The whole world shrinks down to the size of our problem, and the more we dwell on it, the smaller we are and the larger the problem seems to grow.
Your post was about as useful as belly button lint because people who buy better seats don't get an earlier performance.
(how was that comparison?)
Give it a rest. Seriously.
This threads needs to be closed ASAP!
A pre-order is not a retail copy... You said it yourself, this is not the offcial launch, a launched game is a game that I can go buy install and play. Only then will the true launch test begin.
And spin, really? WHo's trying to spin what a released game is? You are playing headstart almost all MMO's have had that, I'm using the terms applied you're trying to move the goal posts.
For every minute you are angry , you lose 60 seconds of happiness."-Emerson
I cannot judge on the servers, but the staggered launch idea was horrible and can be seen by checking the official forums nerdrage. I would much rather sit in a que showing the numbers in front of me, then sit on my e-mail clicking refresh hoping to randomly get an e-mail. Also rated it as bad as half of most peoples guilds are in the game playing, and getting a huge headstart on the rest of the players(same with familys and friends being split up) and preventing them from leveling together.
As for launch, yes even BW stated it's launched in their official startup message.. hard to deny it as launch when you see the developers posting it has launched haha..
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How long are you keeping the poll open Teala? I would rather vote when I have experienced it for myself, hopefully in the next few days.
Perhaps you should rename the poll as "Early access launch" and then do another for "The full retail launch."
In any case, I will vote after I've played a couple days.
I am still confused by what the difference is between this and just having people sit in queue's. If the goal is to avoid :ZOMG WE ARE IN QUEUE's"...you better stagger it over a month because this is sort of pointless.
It is like they are still stress testing the servers. If the goal is to ensure 50/50% balance between the faction that has already failed because the servers are not locking when full.
All this is doing is making people angry. So I paid the same amount as you, but you get more game time then me?? In game vanity shop only accesible by the highest payers....in game access only accesible by the highest payers. There are hints at the direction the game is already headed.
Cash shop in 3 months I am calling it.
Unless I missed something really small there is no beating that.
Also may ask those arguing about it not being released(if that's the summarization), if you asked the guys playing what would they say? If they or you say it's just early access and not a release, slap em for me please.
I might get banned for this. - Rizel Star.
I'm not afraid to tell trolls what they [need] to hear, even if that means for me to have an forced absence afterwards.
P2P LOGIC = If it's P2P it means longevity, overall better game, and THE BEST SUPPORT EVER!!!!!(Which has been rinsed and repeated about a thousand times)
Common Sense Logic = P2P logic is no better than F2P Logic.
It's been released
And so far, launch has been unimaginably smooth.
Bioware will be hard to beat.
Now...is the game perfect? Not even close. But it's the best MMO to be released in 8+ years imo.
This poll is like asking a bunch of meth addicts if they like meth.. Fail
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No wait, no lag, no queue, perfectly smooth, not at all glitchy and with an incredible level of polish.
Then again, I was in the first invite group yesterday.
Yep, and everybody that is still waiting would grade it a lot lower out of RAAAAAGE!
Granted, I think after yesterday, they proved the servers worked, everything was fine, thet should have just let the masses in.. But 'eh, I'm not Bioware, so maybe my logic need not apply. But, I can't complain, I was first wave invited, but it sucks for me cause my Wife's account, and my 2 gaming friends are stuck waiting for god know what wave to get in.
So even though I can log in and play, can't play my character of choice having to wait for others. So.. yay.. crafting...??????
(*yawn*) c'mon Bioware, let the people in!
Hey TSW Players http://www.unfair.co/ for Mission guides, Lore Locations and stuff....
Don't you think it's better to wait until after the game launches for a poll like this?
I have been happy with this launch. No email means I did something else. Got my email, I can actually log in and play no wasted time. No hours long queue to suffer through and waste my time in.
Precisely why I said it was an awful comparison. Reading comprehension please before rushing to troll.
I don't understand why arguing semantics - Can't we just agree that the 'launch' here isn't as black and white as some people want to make it out to be? It's a progressive launch - get over it.
Haha. Forum fights are as fun as playing the game, am I right?
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