Someone with many positive posts on the TOR forums who also loves raiding, posting a Troll post on the GW2 forums, never would have seen that coming.
yes cause none of the gw2 fan boys go to tor forums and flame and troll...No never would they do that....oh wait THEY ARE THE MOST CONSTANT...followed a close second by wow fan boys.
True. In the last 1-2 weeks all the threads are just TOR fanboys vs GW2/WoW fanboys. What's the point of coming to this website if all am reading is flame wars
Can we please get rid of all the TOR, GW2 and WoW fanboys? :P
@OP, you are seriously misinformed about both GW1 and GW2. GW was never an Asian MMO. It never even came close to one. If anything it had the least amount of grind of and I don't think the game is visually akin to Asian MMOs.
Mission in life: Vanquish all MMORPG.com trolls - especially TESO, WOW and GW2 trolls.
ummm he said he played gw1 several times over the years....and was not impressed since much the the game gw2 is saying it will be is at the core gw still I think its a rather valid question. But again game isnt out yet and when the beta preorder stuff goes out again like it did for gw orignal you can just drop 5 down at gamestop and play it....I did that with gw and was rather let down and went back to coh till wow came out....Dont get me wrong there were a few cool things about gw I have admired but I just dont think it deserves all the hype it gets...
Well here's the thing... THIS IS NOT GUILD WARS 1. People really need to get that through their thick skulls and let it sink in; because apart from the lore, setting and payment models, the 2 games have nothing alike. I don't care for Guild Wars 1 and I will never play Guild Wars 1 and the reason why I'm excited about Guild Wars 2, is that is has great features that aren't in Guild Wars 1 (I did my research). And quite frankly, there's more than enough info to show this and I'll help enlighten you and the OP.
Originally posted by MindTrigger I think Rift and SWTOR are two of the most bland games I have ever played, but plenty of people love them.
Well, Rift had its moments. Realm of the Fae was absolutely beautiful at ultra gfx settings and voiceover in Darkening Deeps was funny the first 1000 times you heard it.
MMORPG genre is dead. Long live MMOCS (Massively Multiplayer Online Cash Shop).
I ll be buying GW2 without a doubt. I ll like it i m sure, but I m not hyping it up to be purely amazing, and a saviour. I love SWTOR and still really enjoy EQ2, and hell I can honestly say i m looking forward to FFXIV reboot 2.0. Then theres PS2, TSW, AA, Tera, and many more. GW2 is that game I ll play along another. Everyone can have their own opinion of course, but I think alot of people are setting themselves up for a huge disappointment.
races/professions are unique, each race has its own city and mermer has pink/rainbow spells; i know my bro won't play a mesmer, but i will pwn his warrior lol
I'm looking forward to it because GW2 seeks to fix all of the things about WoW-like MMORPGs that have annoyed me since WoW.
I hate being stuck in a single (class) role at any one time. I also hate that it's difficult to find groups as certain classes (DPS). GW2 fixes this by removing the "trinity" concept and allowing each class to fill all roles at any one time.
I hate the fact that running into other players while questing is just an annoyance because they will take my MOBs. I also hate that EVERY player has to kill the same boss, and killing him has no effect whatsoever on the world. GW2 fixes this by replacing quests with Dynamic Events.
I hate the fact that PvP is incredibly imbalanced because some folks are higher level or have better gear. GW2 fixes this by putting everyone on a level playing field for PvP.
I'd rather close minded people like the OP keep out of GW2. Trolling on the forums is one thing, don't need it in the game. Nothing to see here. Move along.
not everyone just the 8 million ex-guild wars player(evil grin)ya there was and is a lot of them
How can there be 8 million ex-guild wars players? I thought that GW1, counting all four campaigns sold 6 million boxes. This means that there were at MOST 6 million GW1 players. But in reality, it's probably closer to 2 million.
Just all Asian games I see look like an Anime version of LOTRO and I hate the art style in that too. One thing that annoys me the most is it looks too cute and girly, it doesn't look gritty or real enough. It doesn't look memorable, I look at the screenshots and think "yup another Asian MMO" and go straight past it because then I just think of lots of grinding and little customization. That little Race I keep seeing needs to go, it looks so pathetic and like it came out of Final Fantasy.
Why don't Asian games have Bump Mapping? LOTRO didn't have it either to be fair and it just looks horrible now. Every surface looks like a flast texture and you can see all the polygons from the triangle environments. It just looks like a throw back to games of Lineage 2 time but with modern lighting.
You know why people have been saying seems interesting, I just want to know if the world is seamless or instanced like Guild Wars?
I sense trolling. And earlier you said It's hard to find info on GW2? Thats absolute BS...Info on the game is EVERYWHERE...even in their official Dev Blog...Theres an entire Wiki dedicated to GW1(and all its expansions) and GW2. The art style looks asian? Thats like saying steak tastes like pepsi. GW2 is neither asian (the dev studio is in...idk...washington) nor is it grindy by any means. Youtube the GW2 manifesto and you'll see testiment to that. GW2 uses plenty of bump mapping...more than your little heart can handle. Not to mention it uses plenty of other effects besides just that. And the little people? theyre part of the lore...getting rid of them as a playable race would be stupid. Hey remember how we introduced this race...sorry its going now because some guy on a forum didn't like it.
Is the world open or not? FFS! GO READ! GO WATCH A VIDEO! the answer to that question is written all over the internet...
as far as what are people seeing in this game thats got them so excited.......everything. I, personally, have yet to see a single thing thats made me say "hmm idk about this." Everything Arenanet has put out has been spot on and has done nothing but excite everyone. If you want to know more about why It's so awesome....maybe you should......
GO DO SOME FREAKIN' RESEARCH!1!!
but seriously...what you said in your op probably offended over 9000 gamers world wide.
You should really do some research before talking bad about a game. Thats like going into a store and seeing an indian guy working the counter and then later exclaiming that they must have terrible customer service...you dont know, you didnt even shop or ask for help. You just made an assumption based off of looks(screenshots). Try again, and this time seriously look...dont just look at a screenshot and say "just another asian game" because the game isnt even asian...so you're already off the mark.
haha just kidding no opinions are truly wrong...just bad on some occasions.
So, trolls can keep on trolling but I can't call them idiots because I'll be banned? The MMORPG staff really do have their rules set don't they?
You can report any troll by clicking the report button on the top left corner of any post. That prevents flaming wars on the boards. So use the button when you think someone is trolling but dont call them trolls in public.
Best MMO experiences : EQ(PvE), DAoC(PvP), WoW(total package) LOTRO (worldfeel) GW2 (Artstyle and animations and worlddesign) SWTOR (Story immersion) TSW (story) ESO (character advancement)
ok let me clear one misconception!arenanet is releasing gw2 the way it is because they want correvt stuff they were stuck living with in gw1 arenanet last i check never cared much about wow or what it do!why? simple most that are boss at arenanet are ex-blizzard employe they dont need to see what is being released they KNOW how blizzard go at it!they are building THEIR dream ,ask ncsoft for fun!i bet arenanet pissed them off more time then anybody can count but one thing ncsoft cant complain !arenanet showed result in gw with having to proove ncsoft the whole nine yard!(ya lot of work)this time they can focus on the game!any thinking arenanet is trying to improve other game but guild wars one for gw2 is sadly mistaken!and if some employe at arenanet are going at it this way they should speak to the ex=blizzard employe that founded arenanet to be explained how they should go at it the arenanet!cause clearly they are hurting the arenanet philosophy!
Either you like the artstyle or you don't, but calling GW2 Asian is bullshit.
You know, Asian = Anime.
I'm assuming the OP thought GW2 is Asian because NCsoft is a Korean company. That's the only thing I can come up with.
Same here.
Also guys don't get mad at him, he'll find out what he [wants] to know about the game, no sense in bashing him based on his opinon even though it's no were near anime or asain lol, we know what it is, some thought the same before playing it, so no sense in bashing him like I said. Once OB comes he'll be able to see if it fits his playstyle and likings.
I might get banned for this. - Rizel Star.
I'm not afraid to tell trolls what they [need] to hear, even if that means for me to have an forced absence afterwards.
P2P LOGIC = If it's P2P it means longevity, overall better game, and THE BEST SUPPORT EVER!!!!!(Which has been rinsed and repeated about a thousand times)
Common Sense Logic = P2P logic is no better than F2P Logic.
So, trolls can keep on trolling but I can't call them idiots because I'll be banned? The MMORPG staff really do have their rules set don't they?
You can report any troll by clicking the report button on the top left corner of any post. That prevents flaming wars on the boards. So use the button when you think someone is trolling but dont call them trolls in public.
I know this. Not like they'll do a thing about it anyway though. Especially since it would be me the one reporting someone. The staff here don't like me that much. Feeling is mutual.
The art style just looks like a generic Asian MMO to me and I just cannot get excited for how it looks. I have no idea how the world is built, I've played Guild Wars but that wasn't an MMO but I've heard this time round it is a proper world? I dunno but from everything I've seen it looks like it does the AoC thing where everything is in the skybox and the actual world is pretty enclosed and linear.
It just looks like a very generic MMO, the art doesn't stick out at all and I have no interest in the story because the story of the first one was so bad and generic. Can some one please explain to me why people are getting so excited for it? Just looks like another Asian MMO like how everyone was excited for Aion or something and yet it just looked generic again.
I can't really give you a straight answer. I can't see why you perceive the game the way that you do, just as much as you can't see why it appeals to so many people. I think the best response, here, is "why ask why?".
Also, if you think it looks too girly, look at the norn trailer and check out some of those dudes... they look like something from "Brutal Legend".
All I can really tell you to do is attempt and inhale some of the information that has been distributed to the community, like how if you shoot arrows through fire - they catch on fire and deal extra fire damage.
Or how like... there are giant dragons that aren't even giant dragons cause there are dragons that are like as big as mountains.
I'm done trolling. If you don't care about GW2 I can't help you - I'd love it if the number one issue people have with GW2 wasn't "It's gona be like GW1". I didn't much like GW1 (Read: Hated it) and I honestly believe I will love GW2.
People think it's fun to pretend your a monster. Me I spend my life pretending I'm not. - Dexter Morgan
There is nothing "Asian" about the art style, unless you somehow have been conditioned to believe that the Western art style is WoW-like cartoonish and anything that doesn't look like a cartoon must be Eastern. Maybe it's just a backlash arguement by people who happen to like a game that looks like a cartoon and have gotten sick of the criticism?
The entire game is innovation, whether it's large scale innovation that redesigns many of the core basics of how an MMORPG works, or the small innovations that have come about as they tweak and adjust everything else to ensure it all plays well together and supports the over all design goals in a cohesive whole. If someone doesn't see why people are excited about this game, they either aren't very informed, or lack the imagination to understand what this promises to do for the genre.
Even well before it's release, the game is already having a major impact on the MMORPG space, by reshaping player expectations of what a contemporary MMORPG should look like and why recycling the same old, same old is just not acceptable.
It's a very, very ambitious game that seeks to evolve MMORPGs and overcome the stagnation in the genre that has resulted in a lost generation of expected innovation. Arenenet is the right developer for the task and they have been fortunate to have the full backing of NCSoft management in assuring that they have the time and resources needed to ensure the game does not release until it is actually ready.
Arenenet is likely doing the heavy lifting needed to get the genre out of it's rut. If the game delivers on it's promise and has great financial success, I anticipate that other, future titles will borrow heavily from the GW2 design.
Rest assured, Blizzard will find a way to steal any good ideas GW2 comes up with. Hell they already did with the roll mechanic for their Wrath of the Panda King expansion.
EDIT: Before anyone says GW2 didn't invent rolling or dodging, I know. Calm down. The idea will, however, be used by other MMO companies now that it's become a popular mechanic.
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True. In the last 1-2 weeks all the threads are just TOR fanboys vs GW2/WoW fanboys. What's the point of coming to this website if all am reading is flame wars
Can we please get rid of all the TOR, GW2 and WoW fanboys? :P
@OP, you are seriously misinformed about both GW1 and GW2. GW was never an Asian MMO. It never even came close to one. If anything it had the least amount of grind of and I don't think the game is visually akin to Asian MMOs.
Mission in life: Vanquish all MMORPG.com trolls - especially TESO, WOW and GW2 trolls.
Well here's the thing... THIS IS NOT GUILD WARS 1. People really need to get that through their thick skulls and let it sink in; because apart from the lore, setting and payment models, the 2 games have nothing alike. I don't care for Guild Wars 1 and I will never play Guild Wars 1 and the reason why I'm excited about Guild Wars 2, is that is has great features that aren't in Guild Wars 1 (I did my research). And quite frankly, there's more than enough info to show this and I'll help enlighten you and the OP.
Here is a playlist of Guild Wars 2 walkthroughs, by TotalBiscuit. Watch them and become less ignorant about the game you are talking about.
Either you like the artstyle or you don't, but calling GW2 Asian is bullshit.
You know, Asian = Anime.
MMORPG genre is dead. Long live MMOCS (Massively Multiplayer Online Cash Shop).
Everyone is raving about Guild Wars 2, and i like [insert game here] so i refuse to see it...
fixed topic title.
I ll be buying GW2 without a doubt. I ll like it i m sure, but I m not hyping it up to be purely amazing, and a saviour. I love SWTOR and still really enjoy EQ2, and hell I can honestly say i m looking forward to FFXIV reboot 2.0. Then theres PS2, TSW, AA, Tera, and many more. GW2 is that game I ll play along another. Everyone can have their own opinion of course, but I think alot of people are setting themselves up for a huge disappointment.
races/professions are unique, each race has its own city and mermer has pink/rainbow spells; i know my bro won't play a mesmer, but i will pwn his warrior lol
not everyone just the 8 million ex-guild wars player(evil grin)ya there was and is a lot of them
I'm looking forward to it because GW2 seeks to fix all of the things about WoW-like MMORPGs that have annoyed me since WoW.
I hate being stuck in a single (class) role at any one time. I also hate that it's difficult to find groups as certain classes (DPS). GW2 fixes this by removing the "trinity" concept and allowing each class to fill all roles at any one time.
I hate the fact that running into other players while questing is just an annoyance because they will take my MOBs. I also hate that EVERY player has to kill the same boss, and killing him has no effect whatsoever on the world. GW2 fixes this by replacing quests with Dynamic Events.
I hate the fact that PvP is incredibly imbalanced because some folks are higher level or have better gear. GW2 fixes this by putting everyone on a level playing field for PvP.
Are you team Azeroth, team Tyria, or team Jacob?
I'd rather close minded people like the OP keep out of GW2. Trolling on the forums is one thing, don't need it in the game. Nothing to see here. Move along.
How can there be 8 million ex-guild wars players? I thought that GW1, counting all four campaigns sold 6 million boxes. This means that there were at MOST 6 million GW1 players. But in reality, it's probably closer to 2 million.
Are you team Azeroth, team Tyria, or team Jacob?
I sense trolling. And earlier you said It's hard to find info on GW2? Thats absolute BS...Info on the game is EVERYWHERE...even in their official Dev Blog...Theres an entire Wiki dedicated to GW1(and all its expansions) and GW2. The art style looks asian? Thats like saying steak tastes like pepsi. GW2 is neither asian (the dev studio is in...idk...washington) nor is it grindy by any means. Youtube the GW2 manifesto and you'll see testiment to that. GW2 uses plenty of bump mapping...more than your little heart can handle. Not to mention it uses plenty of other effects besides just that. And the little people? theyre part of the lore...getting rid of them as a playable race would be stupid. Hey remember how we introduced this race...sorry its going now because some guy on a forum didn't like it.
Is the world open or not? FFS! GO READ! GO WATCH A VIDEO! the answer to that question is written all over the internet...
heres a link with alot of answers to that...
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as far as what are people seeing in this game thats got them so excited.......everything. I, personally, have yet to see a single thing thats made me say "hmm idk about this." Everything Arenanet has put out has been spot on and has done nothing but excite everyone. If you want to know more about why It's so awesome....maybe you should......
GO DO SOME FREAKIN' RESEARCH!1!!
but seriously...what you said in your op probably offended over 9000 gamers world wide.
You should really do some research before talking bad about a game. Thats like going into a store and seeing an indian guy working the counter and then later exclaiming that they must have terrible customer service...you dont know, you didnt even shop or ask for help. You just made an assumption based off of looks(screenshots). Try again, and this time seriously look...dont just look at a screenshot and say "just another asian game" because the game isnt even asian...so you're already off the mark.
haha just kidding no opinions are truly wrong...just bad on some occasions.
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So, trolls can keep on trolling but I can't call them idiots because I'll be banned? The MMORPG staff really do have their rules set don't they?
You can report any troll by clicking the report button on the top left corner of any post. That prevents flaming wars on the boards. So use the button when you think someone is trolling but dont call them trolls in public.
Best MMO experiences : EQ(PvE), DAoC(PvP), WoW(total package) LOTRO (worldfeel) GW2 (Artstyle and animations and worlddesign) SWTOR (Story immersion) TSW (story) ESO (character advancement)
I'm assuming the OP thought GW2 is Asian because NCsoft is a Korean company. That's the only thing I can come up with.
ok let me clear one misconception!arenanet is releasing gw2 the way it is because they want correvt stuff they were stuck living with in gw1 arenanet last i check never cared much about wow or what it do!why? simple most that are boss at arenanet are ex-blizzard employe they dont need to see what is being released they KNOW how blizzard go at it!they are building THEIR dream ,ask ncsoft for fun!i bet arenanet pissed them off more time then anybody can count but one thing ncsoft cant complain !arenanet showed result in gw with having to proove ncsoft the whole nine yard!(ya lot of work)this time they can focus on the game!any thinking arenanet is trying to improve other game but guild wars one for gw2 is sadly mistaken!and if some employe at arenanet are going at it this way they should speak to the ex=blizzard employe that founded arenanet to be explained how they should go at it the arenanet!cause clearly they are hurting the arenanet philosophy!
Same here.
Also guys don't get mad at him, he'll find out what he [wants] to know about the game, no sense in bashing him based on his opinon even though it's no were near anime or asain lol, we know what it is, some thought the same before playing it, so no sense in bashing him like I said. Once OB comes he'll be able to see if it fits his playstyle and likings.
I might get banned for this. - Rizel Star.
I'm not afraid to tell trolls what they [need] to hear, even if that means for me to have an forced absence afterwards.
P2P LOGIC = If it's P2P it means longevity, overall better game, and THE BEST SUPPORT EVER!!!!!(Which has been rinsed and repeated about a thousand times)
Common Sense Logic = P2P logic is no better than F2P Logic.
Troll overkill
I think I actually spent way more time reading and theorycrafting about MMOs than playing them
I know this. Not like they'll do a thing about it anyway though. Especially since it would be me the one reporting someone. The staff here don't like me that much. Feeling is mutual.
I can't really give you a straight answer. I can't see why you perceive the game the way that you do, just as much as you can't see why it appeals to so many people. I think the best response, here, is "why ask why?".
Hey, Yo, Sup.
If art is what your main issues with GW2 is, then I present you with this: http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Category:Art_by_Kekai_Kotaki
That is one of the lead artists for GW2.
Also, if you think it looks too girly, look at the norn trailer and check out some of those dudes... they look like something from "Brutal Legend".
All I can really tell you to do is attempt and inhale some of the information that has been distributed to the community, like how if you shoot arrows through fire - they catch on fire and deal extra fire damage.
Or how like... there are giant dragons that aren't even giant dragons cause there are dragons that are like as big as mountains.
I'm done trolling. If you don't care about GW2 I can't help you - I'd love it if the number one issue people have with GW2 wasn't "It's gona be like GW1". I didn't much like GW1 (Read: Hated it) and I honestly believe I will love GW2.
People think it's fun to pretend your a monster. Me I spend my life pretending I'm not. - Dexter Morgan
Was not developed by an Asian company, suspecting you of being an anti-NCSoft troll. The end.
There is nothing "Asian" about the art style, unless you somehow have been conditioned to believe that the Western art style is WoW-like cartoonish and anything that doesn't look like a cartoon must be Eastern. Maybe it's just a backlash arguement by people who happen to like a game that looks like a cartoon and have gotten sick of the criticism?
The entire game is innovation, whether it's large scale innovation that redesigns many of the core basics of how an MMORPG works, or the small innovations that have come about as they tweak and adjust everything else to ensure it all plays well together and supports the over all design goals in a cohesive whole. If someone doesn't see why people are excited about this game, they either aren't very informed, or lack the imagination to understand what this promises to do for the genre.
Even well before it's release, the game is already having a major impact on the MMORPG space, by reshaping player expectations of what a contemporary MMORPG should look like and why recycling the same old, same old is just not acceptable.
It's a very, very ambitious game that seeks to evolve MMORPGs and overcome the stagnation in the genre that has resulted in a lost generation of expected innovation. Arenenet is the right developer for the task and they have been fortunate to have the full backing of NCSoft management in assuring that they have the time and resources needed to ensure the game does not release until it is actually ready.
Arenenet is likely doing the heavy lifting needed to get the genre out of it's rut. If the game delivers on it's promise and has great financial success, I anticipate that other, future titles will borrow heavily from the GW2 design.
Want to know more about GW2 and why there is so much buzz? Start here: Guild Wars 2 Mass Info for the Uninitiated
I think Arenanet should patent all the innovations in GW2 and then license them out
Rest assured, Blizzard will find a way to steal any good ideas GW2 comes up with. Hell they already did with the roll mechanic for their Wrath of the Panda King expansion.
EDIT: Before anyone says GW2 didn't invent rolling or dodging, I know. Calm down. The idea will, however, be used by other MMO companies now that it's become a popular mechanic.