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GTX 460, GRX 570 + ATI 6970 ????
I'm having a GTX 460 right now, and im thinking about buying a new card ( GTX 570 or ATI 6970). Do you guys think i should change GTX 460 for those 2 ? I know that those 2 are better. But how's better ? if GTX 460 is 1, then what is GTX570 and ATI 6970 compare to that "1" ?
GTX 570 and Ati 6970, Which 1 have better performance ?
GTX 570 need 2 "6pin" power connectors. ATI 6970 need a 8pin and a 6 pin. But my power supply only have 2 "6pins". If i buy ati 6970, can i just connect 1 "6pin" and dont connect the "8pin" ? or i MUST connect 8 and 6 ?
Do they sell Power Connector 8 and 6 pin seperately ? or i have to buy a New Power Supply with a 8 and 6 pin ?
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Exactly what power supply do you have? Give the exact brand name and model. If you don't have an 8-pin or 6+2-pin connector, then I'd worry about trying to power a higher end video card with it. There's a good chance that it does have a 6+2-pin connector, and you're using it as a 6-pin, but could plug in the other two pins to use it as an 8-pin. The idea of a 6+2-pin PCI-E connector is that it can be used as either a 6-pin or an 8-pin, so that for a dual GPU system, the power supply could have 4 PCI-E connectors (two 6-pin and two 6+2-pin) rather than needing six (four 6-pin and two 8-pin) to cover all the possible combinations.
A rough approximation of performance is that if you have a proper GeForce GTX 460 1 GB, then if your card is 1x performance, a GeForce GTX 570 is about 1.5x, and a Radeon HD 6970 is about 1.6x. It's a small enough difference that I'd advise against the upgrade unless there's something wrong with your GTX 460. If you've got a bigger budget than you're letting on and really want to upgrade, then a Radeon HD 7970 is perhaps 2.3x today, and likely to improve further with future drivers. Of course, it's also $550 and not available until January 9.
A Radeon HD 6970 actually tends to use less power than a GeForce GTX 570. The reason the 6970 requires more power connectors is that AMD was a lot more cautious than Nvidia in ensuring that the card can be powered safely.
can i just connect 1 "6pin" and dont connect the "8pin" ? or i MUST connect 8 and 6 ?
Just say exactly what power supply you have, so that I know what we're dealing with. I want an exact brand name and model, and then I can look up the specs.
i'm having a Bestec 300w max. Idk if its really 300w, thats what it say on the powerspupply! and i checked it, only have 2x 6pin conectors
You're running a GeForce GTX 460 off that power supply now? You're probably running the power supply out of spec as it is. You desperately need a new power supply, even if you're not going to upgrade the video card.
still didnt answer my question. If i buy ati 6970, can i just connect 1 "6pin" and dont connect the "8pin" ? or i MUST connect 8 and 6 ?
Do they sell Power Connector 8 and 6 pin seperately ? or i have to buy a New Power Supply with a 8 and 6 pin ?
You have to buy a new power supply. There's no way around it. Even if you could plug in a new video card to your old power supply, it's just not strong enough for what you need. You're very much playing with fire plugging a GTX 460 into that power supply, and with a 6970 or a GTX 570, even if you could plug it in, you'd probably end up with dead hardware in short order. You'd be lucky to have the power supply be the only part that died.
If you're in the US, then this should be adequate:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817151094
These would be better:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817182068
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817207014
Even if you decide against upgrading your video card, you still need a new power supply, and badly, even for your old card.
No, you have to hook up both power connections.
There are adapters which can take Molex (the big hard drive 4-wire connections) and turn them into either 6 or 8-pin connections for video cards (recommended), as well as splitters that will turn a single 6-pin into 2 6 or 8 pin connections (works in a pinch but good chance you'll overload something).
However, I'll mirror what Quiz said, your already on thin ice with that power supply - I'd really recommend a new one.
6-pin -> dual 6/8-pin Splitters
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16812198018
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16812198016
Molex-> 8-pin Adapter
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16812887002
I'm absolutely shocked that that PSU hasn't exploded on you.
Yes, you need both connectors, but it doesn't matter, because you need a new PSU anyways, badly, to the point that I wouldn't even risk running further games until you do replace the PSU.
your question remind me about what happen with me last month! when I change my video card
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hm, before i read those, i already boutgh this one.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B004YF9K7G/ref=oh_o00_s00_i00_details
still i will not upgrade my graphic card. Is that power supply good enough ?
Lol, you guys make me really nervous. Is it really gonna EXPLODE ? i meant REAL EXPLODE.
I've been that gtx 460 running with that low W powersupply for almost a year now. I play Aion with Max setting..... and it didnt explode.
This... How the hell hasn't that thing exploded yet?
He who keeps his cool best wins.
No, no, no. That's a piece of junk. A decent quality power 600 W power supply for $50 would be extremely rare. For $25 without rebates does not happen. Ever.
I don't see specs on it, but I'd be willing to bet a large amount of money that it would not function properly if you tried to pull 600 W from it.
Now, a "burn your house down" explosion is very unlikely. But sparks, smoke, and frying hardware other than the power supply are serious possibility--both for your old power supply and your new one.
The quality of the power supply you picked is probably about on par with the ones in this video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LTVEtr14FEA
Note that that's only 3/4 load, and at room temperature. It can get hot inside computer cases, and that makes it harder for power supplies to function well.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817151094&nm_mc=AFC-C8Junction&cm_mmc=AFC-C8Junction-_-RSSDailyDeals-_-na-_-na&AID=10521304&PID=4176333&SID=6sw9bjlyfpvg
does that good for ati 7970? im saving for it.
Probably. What else is in your system? More to the point, what processor do you have, and do you overclock it? If you've got a 95 W processor at stock speeds, then the Seasonic S12II 520 W can handle that and a Radeon HD 7970. If you've got a 130 W processor and are overclocking it heavily to the point that the processor can pull 250 W under a heavy load, then a Seasonic S12II 520 W would be inadequate for that plus a Radeon HD 7970. Of course, if you were doing that, then you'd have had dead hardware a long time ago with a 300 W power supply.
If you were going to get the S12II, then you might want to consider the Rosewill Capstone 550 W instead if you pay your own electricity bills. It's higher quality and a difference of $14--and you'll probably make that back over the life of the power supply in reduced electrical bills. Alternatively, if you do rebates, then the XFX Core 650 W would be the same price after rebate as the Seasonic S12II 520 W, and give you more headroom (e.g., for overclocking or future upgrades) and higher quality.
The Seasonic S12II is pretty good. I'm just saying that the others are better. If you can afford $550 for a video card, then you can afford something better. (The Rosewill Capstone is Super Flower's gold platform, while the XFX Core 650 W is a Seasonic power supply, and basically the same as a Corsair TX V2 or a NZXT Hale82 of the same wattage.)
I have seen them literally explode: capacitor burst shooting bits of paper everywhere like a confetti bomb. More often than not, you just hear a *pop* and everything just shuts off, and you smell the magic smoke leaking out - and you find that 75% of your hardware is now broken.
No offense bro.
But If you have any RL friends who are computer savy and know how to build, what is compatable with what, and can generally not make a computer melt ( then get their help) ( and soon).
I am really shocked that your computer is actually functioning with that power supply, you probably lucked out and got the 1 in a million of those PSUs that was worth a damn.
Not trying to be ugly or mean to you at all, but some of the questions you have asked lead me to believe you should have someone with you when you do your upgrades.
Internet advice goes a long ways to be sure, but having a buddy who knows his shit with you goes alot further.
Either way good luck with your upgrades=) and listen to whatever Quiz has to say lol
The above poster has a point; having hands-on help is a big plus.
It's too bad you live on the west sideof TN; I'm just a quick hop from Johnson city
At least you picked a good brand this time, your CP-P600 does not even have a second PCI-E connector. As mentioned above the Seasonic may or may not work, it all depends on the rest of your system. If you have a geek friend, have him/her take a look at your system and follow his/her advice.
Personally, The Seasonic is what I would use for a GTX-460 1GB. I would NOT use it for anything above that, just not enough power for the long term. PSUs do wear out, given time and load.
Here is a site I use to get a base line: http://www.extreme.outervision.com/psucalculatorlite.jsp
After you get the minimum recomendation add an addational 50% and start looking for a PSU. Once you find a PSU you think you want, use google to look for reviews. There are some other sites that can help, such as UL. If you are looking at a PSU with no reviews check the photo of the ID plate for a UL number then look it up. Unless of course you really want to buy a new computer in a few months.
I say try the asus 6970 directCU II with 2 fans very good cooling its quiet and less watt needed then 570 plus faster and cheaper well here in europe-holland dunno in US.
7970 is even less consuming watt but you need new gen3 MB plus cpu for that plus more expansive or no use buying it.
Hope to build full AMD system RYZEN/VEGA/AM4!!!
MB:Asus V De Luxe z77
CPU:Intell Icore7 3770k
GPU: AMD Fury X(waiting for BIG VEGA 10 or 11 HBM2?(bit unclear now))
MEMORY:Corsair PLAT.DDR3 1866MHZ 16GB
PSU:Corsair AX1200i
OS:Windows 10 64bit
new gen3 MB plus cpu ? whats that ?
Your 460 GTX would probably perform better with a new PSU (i recommed single rails, never had a problem with them). Get at least 600w (the more the better).
I would choose 6970 anyday its a very good card and cheaper use of watt plus prolly cheaper to buy also 460 is alot slower then 6970 seems no brainer witch one to choose.
P.S People again don't think you can just stick a new generation card on your motherboard and it will improve many times MB dont realy support that card and you maybe get 70% out card.
Hope to build full AMD system RYZEN/VEGA/AM4!!!
MB:Asus V De Luxe z77
CPU:Intell Icore7 3770k
GPU: AMD Fury X(waiting for BIG VEGA 10 or 11 HBM2?(bit unclear now))
MEMORY:Corsair PLAT.DDR3 1866MHZ 16GB
PSU:Corsair AX1200i
OS:Windows 10 64bit
Thats new generation 3 DX11 motherboard but there not on market yet.
CPU is need to get full advantage of the new generation videocard 7970, dont underestimate the power of this new 28nano card.
Hope to build full AMD system RYZEN/VEGA/AM4!!!
MB:Asus V De Luxe z77
CPU:Intell Icore7 3770k
GPU: AMD Fury X(waiting for BIG VEGA 10 or 11 HBM2?(bit unclear now))
MEMORY:Corsair PLAT.DDR3 1866MHZ 16GB
PSU:Corsair AX1200i
OS:Windows 10 64bit