The static world of SWTOR

RogueTroopa · January 2012

LOL i think i saw one woman move slightly in this video apart from the other few players dotted around this lifeless world. Is there a Mos Eisley type social bar in the game?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u3Rrk6lgi24&feature=related

sgel · January 2012

This has been posted before in multiple threads.

IPolygon · January 2012

I don't get it. Imo whether NPCs are standing around or moving around, doesn't make a difference if you cannot interact with them in anyway. Unlike a sprgp where NPCs are needed to populate the world, NPCs shouldn't do so or have to to do so in a mmorpg. A mmorgp should feel alive/dynamic through the players doing what they do.

RogueTroopa · January 2012

I know this has been said before but why does every static mob have to be in a group of 3? Is there something i've missed?

Struggs · January 2012

Every mob doesn't come in 3s but whatever you say I guess.

Sora2810 · January 2012

they could make every idle animation to /getdown. That would spice things up.

Zekiah · January 2012

Wow, static combat NPCs, they should just remove those lol.

Ainor · January 2012

Originally posted by RogueTroopa
I know this has been said before but why does every static mob have to be in a group of 3? Is there something i've missed?

and why all the fucking clones 2.49 is fucking silly 3 clones of the same dark guy .You could also see a couple of copys of him in the courtyard . The same with all the Npc characters. COPY AND PASTE cheap . Feels like something amature woiuld

do in a construktion kit or something .

Bladestrom · January 2012

If it is really that quiet surely its a quick and easy fix for them to make the NPC's interactive with each other and have some basic voice scripts to bring them to life. That would transform the ambiance of the game if that video is anything to go by, it looks awful and almost creepy as it is.

pharazonic · January 2012

Awful.

What really gets me in that video is the complete lack of ambient music or sound.

No wonder the world feels dead.

NBlitz · January 2012

Originally posted by pharazonic
Awful.

What really gets me in that video is the complete lack of ambient music or sound.

No wonder the world feels dead.

People going on about the NPCs this NPCs that. That part is almost the same in every game.

My main problem with how it felt was due to sounds. If they were present they were weak and almost nonexistent.

Of course when they weren't present it was much worse.

Bladestrom · January 2012

Ye its really odd that the devs did not think that was an issue, maybe an insight into their lack of experience with virtual worlds. Has to be fixable though, and quickly by the looks of it.

Torgrim · January 2012

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L9_hqGsnpp8

This one is even more static, hell even a college gaming student can do a better job.

Vhaln · January 2012

Originally posted by Bladestrom
Ye its really odd that the devs did not think that was an issue, maybe an insight into their lack of experience with virtual worlds. Has to be fixable though, and quickly by the looks of it.

Except it would suck in a single-player game, too. Bioware's other games weren't this bad. DAO was actually pretty good in this area.

Bladestrom · January 2012

Originally posted by Vhaln

Originally posted by Bladestrom
Ye its really odd that the devs did not think that was an issue, maybe an insight into their lack of experience with virtual worlds. Has to be fixable though, and quickly by the looks of it.

Except it would suck in a single-player game, too. Bioware's other games weren't this bad. DAO was actually pretty good in this area.

Don't know what you mean by the word 'Except', but ye it would be just as bad if not even more inexcusable in a single player.

blondeh · January 2012

Theres nothing new to see here move along.

(i see the same in all mmos. What is it you would liek to see?)

Bladestrom · January 2012

Originally posted by blondeh
Theres nothing new to see here move along.

(i see the same in all mmos. What is it you would liek to see?)

its bad but its ok because some of the other mmorgs are bad too?

Isometrix · January 2012

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EJIsdl4BL2Q&feature=related

Clone Wars!

Shroom_Mage · January 2012

Originally posted by Bladestrom
Ye its really odd that the devs did not think that was an issue, maybe an insight into their lack of experience with virtual worlds. Has to be fixable though, and quickly by the looks of it.

It's not a lack of insight. They just don't care. They have no reason to pay attention to details like this because these details have almost zero impact on sales and subscriptions. Trust me. This was the driving factor in all of their decisions on this game.

nikoliath · January 2012

i see a bright future for this, as this issue seems to be the most complained about. I really dont give a hoot if the combat_droid_1 mob flies south for winter.

So stupid trawling the forum reading crap like this and then posting it as if it's your own moment of awakening. Usual post-launch blubbing from people who cant find anything to play because they have lost touch with reality.

nikoliath · January 2012

Originally posted by Shroom_Mage

Originally posted by Bladestrom

Ye its really odd that the devs did not think that was an issue, maybe an insight into their lack of experience with virtual worlds. Has to be fixable though, and quickly by the looks of it.

It's not a lack of insight. They just don't care. They have no reason to pay attention to details like this because these details have almost zero impact on sales and subscriptions. Trust me. This was the driving factor in all of their decisions on this game.

you mean they spent $300 million billion and dared to expect to recoup their investment and make money? Business is evil. When will someone step up to the plate and give us what most of us don't want, without any thought of covering costs, making money....

Bladestrom · January 2012

Originally posted by nikoliath
i see a bright future for this, as this issue seems to be the most complained about. I really dont give a hoot if the combat_droid_1 mob flies south for winter.

So stupid trawling the forum reading crap like this and then posting it as if it's your own moment of awakening. Usual post-launch blubbing from people who cant find anything to play because they have lost touch with reality.

Well done.

sanosukex · January 2012

The main issue with this is two fold... one is the very large open spaces and the second is the zone phasing. Pretty much every MMO is similar in most npc's do nothing.. I feel they could of done better in many aspects of the environments but it's really not the main problem. With such big areas and greatly limiting number of people in that area through phasing the game is creating that sense of emptyness. If they allowed 4x the amount of people in a phase i don't think people would get such a huge sense of a lifeless world. But when I'm running through a huge area and see maybe a small handfull of people it makes all those static npc's stick out that much more

Vhaln · January 2012

Originally posted by Bladestrom

Originally posted by Vhaln

Originally posted by Bladestrom

Ye its really odd that the devs did not think that was an issue, maybe an insight into their lack of experience with virtual worlds. Has to be fixable though, and quickly by the looks of it.

Except it would suck in a single-player game, too. Bioware's other games weren't this bad. DAO was actually pretty good in this area.

Don't know what you mean by the word 'Except', but ye it would be just as bad if not even more inexcusable in a single player.

Oh, thought by "virtual world" you meant that it was a more important issue for MMOs. It's more like they're inexperienced at making video games, period.

Loke666 · January 2012

Originally posted by nikoliath
you mean they spent $300 million billion and dared to expect to recoup their investment and make money? Business is evil. When will someone step up to the plate and give us what most of us don't want, without any thought of covering costs, making money....

I do have a feeling that good games earn loads of money anyways and that the devs (not singeling out TOR here, it goes for most MMOs) probably would do better if they focused more on making a great game and less on what they think sells most.

Amana · January 2012

This has been covered in a few recent threads, including this one on page 2: http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/thread/337554/swtors-lack-of-interaction-makes-the-world-bland.html

Please check the first couple of pages before posting new topics, especially if a forum is popular. Thanks.

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