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Possible but highly suspect. While they were responisble for DAOC weren't they also responsible for Warhammer?
Kind of 1 for 1 there but I get what you're saying.
1. For god's sake mmo gamers, enough with the analogies. They're unnecessary and your comparisons are terrible, dissimilar, and illogical.
2. To posters feeling the need to state how f2p really isn't f2p: Players understand the concept. You aren't privy to some secret the rest are missing. You're embarrassing yourself.
3. Yes, Cpt. Obvious, we're not industry experts. Now run along and let the big people use the forums for their purpose.
Rift have a more experience team. But what impress me is the post release content developement of rift. Post release content for ToR will make or break it imo
I hate science fiction genre games with a passion and the thought of a Star Wars MMO puts me right to sleep. Having said that, I can honestly say the only thing that is more boring to ME as a gamer; Rift.
I bought a pair of copies for the wife and I when it was on sale for 10 dollars for Black Friday. We got our toons up to level 32 and mulled about. LFG took more than two hours to for a pair of mid level characters to even find a group (one of us was a healer.)
Rift was a snore-fest with huge stretches of barren social landscape on most of the servers we visited. In truth I find it pretty impossible to believe that RIFT could "top" a game such as SWToR, regardless of how many mistakes Bioware makes.
By the by, Rift full version with the first month subscription is on sale in store at Walmart and EB or 9 dollars right now.
"There is a certain undeniable power in the void; within lies an unspoken promise of greatness, the shadowy truth that man is ruled by fear not of what is seen, but of what he perceives is seen beyond."
Mmmmyep. Because if those meters were based on anything remotely like reality, Vanguard and WoW would have switched sub numbers.
+1 ... i didnt bought SWTOR, cause i wanted to wait just in case it will be a fail like Aion or WAR. and my hunch was right.I'll stay in Rift. It maybe have many similarities with other mmos and a few new things, but its a very solid MMO atm with great graphics and atmosphere.
No argument there. Regardless whether one likes the game or not I can't see many making a real solid case bashing Trion for not doing a damn good job with content updates.
Pretty impressive if you ask me.
1. For god's sake mmo gamers, enough with the analogies. They're unnecessary and your comparisons are terrible, dissimilar, and illogical.
2. To posters feeling the need to state how f2p really isn't f2p: Players understand the concept. You aren't privy to some secret the rest are missing. You're embarrassing yourself.
3. Yes, Cpt. Obvious, we're not industry experts. Now run along and let the big people use the forums for their purpose.
rift beats swtor....................................
.........at being a lazy wow clone
And before I look like some trolling tit; the post sounds much harsher than it was intended to be. I really do like the player base of Rift, they were friendly and helpful when I could find them, I am just not a big fan of eitther game.
"There is a certain undeniable power in the void; within lies an unspoken promise of greatness, the shadowy truth that man is ruled by fear not of what is seen, but of what he perceives is seen beyond."
I have the same opinion as you with rift, too much similarity with WoW, dump down crafting and quest hub tunneling. Tried both rift and ToR out in beta. But like wickedjelly said, even thou i don't like the game but they do an impressive job updating the content. I don't know how fast ToR can manage to churn out content but if they can match rift content update speed then it may mature into a great mmo, only time will tell
well, rift players are voting, we are just playing, sorry
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These comparisons remind me of 7 years ago when WoW and EQ2 came out and people were too busy bashing each other to realize that the two games were nearly identical.
I played both Rift and TOR in beta and I've bought both on release. Both games are extremely similar and both games are absolutely worth playing for 1-3 months. One has better writing and alignment system, while the other has dynamic content and great character customization. Otherwise they're extremely close in just about every aspect.
Of course having lightsabers helps too...even though they only come in 3 colours the reasoning for which makes no sense whatsoever
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Then what are you doing posting here!!!!!
Get back into the game!!!!
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I don't see how. I really think their design of being so story oriented is going to put a hamper on them being able to deliver at the same speed. Unless they start dropping out on things such as the story cinematic aspects, voiceovers, etc.
I'll be happy if they prove me wrong but I kind of doubt it. Gonna take a lot longer for them to put something together than they're able to do in Rift. Granted there's no telling how much they already have in the pipeline. This company is kind of infamous least to me with holding back on some material to release at a later time. Granted part of that could simply be because it isn't fleshed out yet and not due to reasons some like to say are the motivating factors.
Kind of does take some bite out of it when they can't scream it was done to inflate dlc sales.
1. For god's sake mmo gamers, enough with the analogies. They're unnecessary and your comparisons are terrible, dissimilar, and illogical.
2. To posters feeling the need to state how f2p really isn't f2p: Players understand the concept. You aren't privy to some secret the rest are missing. You're embarrassing yourself.
3. Yes, Cpt. Obvious, we're not industry experts. Now run along and let the big people use the forums for their purpose.
bleh... the american version...
"Id rather work on something with great potential than on fulfilling a promise of mediocrity."
- Raph Koster
Tried: AO,EQ,EQ2,DAoC,SWG,AA,SB,HZ,CoX,PS,GA,TR,IV,GnH,EVE, PP,DnL,WAR,MxO,SWG,FE,VG,AoC,DDO,LoTRO,Rift,TOR,Aion,Tera,TSW,GW2,DCUO,CO,STO
Favourites: AO,SWG,EVE,TR,LoTRO,TSW,EQ2, Firefall
Currently Playing: ESO
Imo they (EA/bioware) need to invest a lot to make sure that happens. Then people will be saying rift and ToR have great content update but ToR have VO and cinematic. Else they won't be able to attract as much hype and sub as they hope for and that will turn their initial investment into nana. Mmo gamers expectation evolve with time and imo company need to push the boundary in mmo market in order to stay afloat. Since bioware is lead by PhD i'm sure they know what's at stake
Talking about MMORPGS, every game with half the common features tops SWTOR -because SWTOR misses way too many features to be called an MMORPG.
Last thing i've heard is that is has not even a combat log? Come on....
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Well I'm going back to Rift for a month or three before trying ToR for a second month .I liked some of what I saw but the game has too many issues at the moment for me to want to stay .
In a way it doesn't suprise me . A lot of people seem to feel let down by ToR .
The thing that disapointed me the most was space combat felt like an early 90s arcade game .
LOL
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I spoke on my opinion about RIFT only and I think I was pretty respectful in what I said.
My point is that, after I quit RIFT, I did not go into their forum on this site and repeatedly post about every flaw imaginable in the attempt to harm the game or convince others of my opinion. I have plenty of reasons for not liking that game, but I chose not to rub everyone elses face in it. What about you?
wow going f2p confirmed
Lol, that is awesome. You do realise they are getting millions $ for something they developed, and your're saying its not there fauly it doesn't work.....Do you have a free sub or something?
It is their responsibility to you as a subscriber to fix issues.....
But regarding the score - its a nice indication on the AVERAGE score games are getting from users - how many votes doesn't even matter...
Well Done RIFT. And SWTOR not so well done.
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Rift is a better game all around, except the questing. People just don't want to accept that, but it's ok.