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More Than 1.7 Million Active Subscribers 2/1/12 [EA Conf Call Discussion Thread]
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To activate the game you had to add a subscription I think?
But doesn't it also say that the report is for Q4 2011? I just don't understand the time frames for all these numbers. No where do they say "as of 2/1/2012, SWTOR has more than 1.7 million active subscribers."
Once again, not trying to hate...I just know how companies operate. They will try to portray themselves in a favorable light, so I don't believe anything on a financial report that can't be absolutely "nailed down." I do believe that at some point they had 1.7 million active subs though...I don't think they would outright lie.
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I guess those 1.7 mil people are not MMO-FO's.
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"Fourth Quarter Fiscal Year 2012 Expectations -- Ending March 31, 2012 "
I like this for the idiots that think EA's 3rd quarter end at the end of january. So the 4th quarter for EA is only two months...2 is a fourth of 12?...nope EA's 3rd quarter ended 12/31/11.
Yeah, this.
If the numbers were faked, EA would be in actual legal trouble. These are real numbers since they have to be independently audited and presented to the SEC on a quarterly basis.
When our company issue report like this, we do it the same way. We have concrete number till the end of the quarter. However, the user base would be currect as the date the report is issued.
That number is derived from the highest possible number for that quarter (Q4/11). And yes, that's how they all operate.
That number has gone way down since then, just like every other MMO except for WoW in its hayday.
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Oh the report is real...for information through 12/31/11
They are real for sure...well at least we hope, I don't think EA would pull an Enron...but you never know
. Anyway, I think they are real.
That said...I think they can be...misinterpreted. This report is for the FQ ending Dec 31, 2011...it doesn't mean it's current to today.
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I know exactly what you're saying, but this isn't some PR press release. It's their financial report. They can't outright lie on it.
The statement that it "has" more than 1.7 million subscribers implies that it is current.
The financial statement is for Q3 FY 2011, but that doesn't mean they can't report on the current state of the game.
Look at all of their statements in order:
--Star Wars: The Old Republic Has More Than 1.7 Million Active Subscribers
"Star Wars: The Old Republic is developing a committed community of players with more than 1.7 million active subscribers and growing."
-- Star Wars(R): The Old Republic(TM) has generated 1.7 million active subscribers and sold through more than 2 million units in a little over one month.d
I think it's pretty clear they are talking about right now. The "in a little over a month part" on the last one could be referring to just the sales I guess based on the wording, but in every single one of those statements they say "Active subscribers."
They are using words like "has" and "active." To me that says right now currently subbed.
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I think it would be kind of strange to say "over 2 million bought the game, but 1.7 million are active" if they were counting all boxed sales and those playing as being active.
Something would be amiss in that case, like a lot of people bought the game but didn't play it, or they allowed players to put in their CC and then cancel, which took them off of some kind of "list" but, then again, the call was today, so using a word like "has" would be current tense, instead of "Had" being used during the time of the statistics.
Though technically, anyone who "had" subscribed for the 1st month would still be subscribed... and it is technically just over the 1 month mark... so -- yes it is confusing. All we know is that SWTOR had an exceptional first month with over 2 million boxes sold... "and growing"
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Cool that its doing so well. i really like the game.
Clearly you do not know how those report works.
1. Report for the end of the quarter.
2. report for the current number such as sub/user number.
Ask people who work in business.
-- Star Wars(R): The Old Republic(TM) has generated 1.7 million active subscribers and sold through more than 2 million units in a little over one month.
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I don't kinow if anyone has quoted this yet as there are quite a few replies thus far, but this line stuck out at me:
Star Wars(R): The Old Republic(TM) has generated 1.7 million active subscribers and sold through more than 2 million units in a little over one month.
Since official retail launch was December 20th it cannot only be through Dec. 31 and still be selling 2 million units in a little over one month. It would have to be at least through Jan 20th.
Edit: doh, was beaten to it by a post. lol
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fixed for you.. were does it say has or currently has active or has retained or anything like that?
http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/thread/339443/Video-FollowUp-Guide-For-Enhancing-Graphics-and-Performance-in-SWTORSorry-still-Nvidia-Only.html
Game started selling before Dec.
What's your point?
Generated 1.7 million ACTIVE subscribers. ACTIVE. You see that word there? ACTIVE.
Edit: Oh and since you edited your post asking where it says active....3 words after the word you highlighted. Read it.
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You have to understand corporate-speak. The number quoted INCLUDES box sales which a lot of were pre-sold.
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But they weren't paid for until the game released.
Pre Order selling started December 13 and I guess they sold 1 million in the first week?
doesn't say currently active.. people can spin things all they want.. they had 1.7 million total active subscribers over the course of the month.. does it mean there is currently 1.7? who knows? is there less? who knows? is there more? who knows
http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/thread/339443/Video-FollowUp-Guide-For-Enhancing-Graphics-and-Performance-in-SWTORSorry-still-Nvidia-Only.html