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See the WWIIO news MMORPG.com posted?! I SUBMITTED IT AND I DON'T EVEN PLAY THIS GAME. You fans should do a better job of submitting news and getting the word out! MMORPG.com really does post the news you submit. Maybe submit information about major patches or events more often? Also I never see it brought up in the general discussion, start suggesting it more to people! Or not...
I bought the game when it was first released and played a few times after with their call backs. I always enjoyed my time but I've always been busy playing other MMOs. Someday I'll play, maybe with BE. I think the game deserves more players and respect but there is little "word of mouth" about it.
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That is a good suggestion. And I don't think subscriptions have really fallen off at all. I still still huge battles every day that I play. I just work out of town 4 days out of a week so I'm not as active as I used to be. Keep in mind that it is summer and alot of people get out more and play games less during this period then in the winter.
BE will definately be a huge boon to the numbers of players though I agree. And it can only get better once they have a fresh new box on the shelves to create word of mouth and renewed interest in the game.
Yeah summertime is a bitch with the numbers! The map rolles slowly and this is mostly because the never ending trial. People tries the game but when the triletime ends so does the newbie.
This is of cause logical!
When masses of the old players leave the game because of it's new dumb turn, one can't expect newbies to stay!
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People will always leave the game for one reason or another. The dev's have to stick to their plans and hope that more like what they do and that others who might have left in the past come back to see the new changes and come back for them.
I don't see massive droves of players leaving. I have over the years seen my squad of of 50+ dwindle as they waited for this or that. But there has been more then fresh bodies to take the place. Heck when I lead the RAF we were constantly out numbered, and my squad was strong. Now the RAF rules the skies most of the time and my squda is weak. So now I am flying for the Luftwaffe until some of their old veterans return or the new box gives them back more of their numbers, then I'll choose where I can help the most and go there next.
The numbers will always fluctuate somewhat, be it from time of year, or changes to the game. But its been years since I saw the game with really low numbers. I see epic battles and lots of players everyday, new players and old returning, while some others say they are leaving, I think many will eventually return, because good or bad this game is unique.
Im going to ask you a valid question. Did you even try the new system and for how long? Im guessing a few days at most. Im guessing you decided to pay in advance knowing full well that the new system was coming and now you regret, as do some other players. I can understand where you are coming from because I made the same mistake or what I thought was a mistake. I figured hey I'm done with this after the first day or two. After taking a few days off I said screw it im not wasting my money and decided to play out my account. Well I can tell you that I regret ever thinking about leaving. Sure its a new system that we all need to get used, but it is not as bad as I first thought nor many of my squaddies (who all almost quit). Now we are enjoying the system and it has lead to some real great battles. If you still have ur account give it another try. Hell log in German and kill with the 27th ID, i can guarentee a good time. If you still have the account it wont hurt. If you dont then I'm sorry the game u enjoyed playing is no longer fun for you, but why do people feel the need to bash somethign which they no longer have a part in?
Actually sirevil is pretty much on the money, at least where he talks about suppressing critical voices on the home turf.
The new BE website has an open forum for would-be players to post questions about the game (no subscription required). Post ANYTHING other than a rave about the game and watch the post disappear immediately!
One prospective player asked for the address of websites where he could talk to current players about the game. One of my squaddies posted links to SimHQ, MMORPG and WW2OL-OTR and the post disappeared within 10 minutes.
Meanwhile we've got guys saying that there are thousands playing in game (which is a complete lie).
It's June 2001 all over again.
when he asked that question Kadesh, that prospective player posted in the exact forum to ask those questions. I'm sure the Rats wanted questions asked at the forum designed for new players to ask questions, and not get shuttled away from the website.
That thread that guy started is still there, and the people who answered that said to post your questions on the forum that thread was on, were correct.
[quote]Im going to ask you a valid question. Did you even try the new system and for how long? Im guessing a few days at most. Im guessing you decided to pay in advance knowing full well that the new system was coming and now you regret, as do some other players. I can understand where you are coming from because I made the same mistake or what I thought was a mistake. I figured hey I'm done with this after the first day or two. After taking a few days off I said screw it im not wasting my money and decided to play out my account. Well I can tell you that I regret ever thinking about leaving. Sure its a new system that we all need to get used, but it is not as bad as I first thought nor many of my squaddies (who all almost quit). Now we are enjoying the system and it has lead to some real great battles. If you still have ur account give it another try. Hell log in German and kill with the 27th ID, i can guarentee a good time. If you still have the account it wont hurt. If you dont then I'm sorry the game u enjoyed playing is no longer fun for you, but why do people feel the need to bash somethign which they no longer have a part in?[/quote]
No i didn't play 1.19 very much. 1.19 became the climax of a destoroying process that started with patch 1.16. The players freedom has been removed pice by pice and when nothings left there is no game left. Once i choised WWIIOL as my game because it was a very good escape from the controlled world i live in. Now WWIIOL is like that world, i'm controlled by people not of my choise. Idon't want to be others playbrick (HC) iwant to do my own playin make my own alliances.
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Well I'm sorry to hear that Sirevil, but honetly thats not what this game is about. Britain can not turn around and ally with Germany to kick France's ass because one commander pissed off another commander. When I'm flying CAP over an area I don't disclude certain areas because I don't like the way one squad runs its battles.
You seem to have fallen in the love with the old way the game played, forgetting about the fact that there was a bigger plan all along for what this game was going to become. Do you realize that for every player who didn't like the new changes, addition of Brigades and objective and left the game, likely 2 other old veterans who left not wanting to play anymore until those things which were promised to be added became a reality. And many have returned, I see them all the time. I know of others who will return when other various things change or get fixed. But the fact remains, many just stick it out, and the developers stick to the plan whenever the can. They don't move backwards, they don't dumb down the game, sure they try too make it more newbie friendly, but they always strive to add more depth and experience/options to the game, from the lowest level of rifleman to the highest level of Commander in Chief things will change, in small steps or big ones, the game moves forward.
Its a shame you no longer like the game, but it sounds to me like what you really want is a giant game of BF1942 rather then WW2ol, because all those changes made after 1.15 and everything else to come are all parts of the game most of us have been waiting to arrive since before the game was even available to the public.
The Rats never changed their mind on their direction, you just simply forgot or mabye ignored at some point that the game isn't complete, likely never will be, it will continue to become more a War-Sim from top to bottom as time goes on, old methods and elements of gamplay and rules will change or be removed or replaced as new technology and gameplay are introduced. Thats just how it goes with ww2ol, and thats why I like it so much.
The thing that still baffles me, is if this game has been going the wrong direction for you since a few major patches ago, why are you still here? You don't really think their going to just up and decide to halt progress and go back to that older phase and say the game is done, we give up, or we like it like this. It ain't gonna happen, and any Rat will tell you straight up, there is alot more to come in the future of this game. And either you sign on for the long haul or get off the bus cuz it ain't stopping except for piss breaks along the way.
Well it's not about forming alliances with the germans, it's with players of my choise.
-Who is the commander i want to follow?
I for one want to follow the greatest leader witch isn't HC. But he's hands have been tied by crazy rats!
Also nowadays i'm beamed into a battlechaos with no options but to fight there and then. I can't do sneakattacks, ambushes and deversions, i can't do supplycut's because there's nothing to cut. If i want to fight in the south i cant do that because some HC freak has orderd us to fight in the zeelands.
It goes on and on......
I'm not in the game any more, now i just warning others not to spend money on this game until the rats have relized the major error.
One things sure, a empty map doesn't pay their saleries.
This game has much potetial but for now it's really shitty!
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So basically you want to have the control of a commander but not work with HC. How is that going to work? How can the HC who will eventually be working with commanders to give them equipment for their objjectives supposed to work with someone who doesn't work with them? Brigades will essentially have Home HQ's from there they will work, and the HC will give them the equipment they request, but many of the old leaders decided it was better to hop around and teleport their army from one front to another. IF you just smashed a town the enemy knows your there, so lets go over here instead and launch another sneak attack, grab a bunch of tanks from a rear town load up the front and launch another wave, rinse and repeat. Thats not real warfare, your not maneuvering your pieces with thoughts of limitations to supply and such, your gaming the game by using a current limitation in the game mechanics namely now Brigade HQ and a supply of equipment in every town to wage a rambo style war by constantly shifting your lines and your troops hundres of kilometers in a matter of seconds.
You can't have true supply route and cut-off if you have an AB in every town fully stocked. Its coming but it takes time to build those systems. These things don't write themselves, and sometimes they have to see what a new piece of the puzzle is going to function like in the live environment before they can be sure the next step they have planned will also function as planned.
I guess we'll have to disagree because personally I don't see them ruining the game and making bad moves at all, what I see is them moving towards the goal of giving us a better more interactive and indepth war game.
Yepp we disagree on a lot of things i guess!
Real warfare is about always knowing where the enemy are, and the enemy know where you are! (This is WWIIOL today)
Real warfare is never about supriceattacks?
I say the opposit!
A quote from a clearsighted c-hawk member (C-hawks is one squad that has been deminished from +40 men strong to nothing by this rat madness):
"Drop all the players on the map with equipment and they will figure out what to do. Natural leaders will come to the forefront. All the rats need to do is make the sides/equipment equal.
The dead horse we are beating is WW2online. Enough said?"
1.15 was a great game.
1.19 sucks horses ass!
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Finally you came out and admit that you are only here to trash WWII Online and CRS Sirevil. In other words, if you don't get it your way will you do your best to destroy CRS and WII Online. Why all this hate buddy?
If you don't like a game, leave it alone Sirevil. There is lots of games that I don't like. What do I do? I don't play them sport. But others do, and I assume they have lots of fun doing so. No matter what is that none of my business.
Since the beginning have it been obvious to most of us what direction CRS is moving this game. They havn't altered that path one degree. Why do you think that your malicious agenda will finally make them to reconsider their roadmap? Deployment and Table of Equipment & Organisation has been on the table for years now. It is nothing new. But CRS have clearly stated that it will take some time to realize it, and it has to be realized in several steps. v1.19 is the first major step in that direction. But it is obious that you don't like what the vast majority has been waiting for for several years. Shit happens, don't you say.
There is two things you can do. Either do you accept that CRS will continue develop WWII Online in the direction they decided long time back. However, if you can't accept CRS' plans is your only other option to quit playing WWII Online and find you another game that suits your personal preferences better.
Most players I know have stoped playing because they too wants to see CRS plans realized, but they don't have had the patience to play WWII Online in the meanwhile waiting for it to happen. So besides the big influx of new players due to the new release in September do I also expect to see a major return of old-timers when deployment is fully launched (in v1.20?). And with the introduction of Table of Organisation & Equipment do I expect to see even more of them return back, since this is what the majority of the players of WWII Online wants to see, even if you don't belong to them Sirevil.
It seems you belongs to a squad since you claim someone is forcing you to play in the north. It is not CRS fault that you have to play in the "wrong" area. Shall you blame anyone should it be the staff of your squad. It was them that accepted to adhere to the request from your sides HC to shift Area-of-operation to the Zeeland area. No one can force your squad where to play. Only the staff of your squad can take that decision. And only you decide if you want to follow your squad. Don't like it, well leave your squad then, at least temporarily. But I am sure you are fully aware of this. Right?
Besides the obvious. Your squad can still set up ambushes, conduct sneak attacks, as well as cut-offf supply routes. That is valid tactics in any war, just as well as in WWII Online. I don't see why you can't do that anymore. It seems to me that you don't know what you are talking about, or do you just spread lies in a poor attempt to prevent new players to start play WWII Online?
So please, stop trash WWII Online and let new player to find out by themselves if they will like it or not. WWII Online is obvious not for everyone. Most people seems to like FPS games like BF1942 et al with instant action and no depth. Most of them will proberbly not like WWII Online. But I also know lots of people that plays BF1942 and never had heard of WWII Online that wants to have something more, with a real tactical and strategical depth, and I believe WWII can provide that to them.
anyone who takes time to create a photoshop sig to bash a game that they must play has a serious axe to grind with someone on a personal level.
You got a ton of people in here saying how much they like the game and a handful of highly aggitated people bashing the crap out of it.
I can only hope people who read these forums see the good comments out number the bad by a wide margin and that those who have an axe to grind for what ever reason are here not because the game truly sucks - but because they have personal issues with HC memebers/Developers/other players.
Finally you came out and admit that you are only here to trash WWII Online and CRS Sirevil. In other words, if you don't get it your way will you do your best to destroy CRS and WII Online. Why all this hate buddy?
Yeah, i hope i am a horn in their side, but the trashing of WWIIOL are made by CRS and the rats, such destruction I could not achive in my wildest dreams. I hate no one , but i really dislike the rats arrogance against the playerbase. When CRS don't listen to the playerbase they cant expect the playerbase to listen to them.
WWIIOL was a really good game but now it's really shitty and my task is to inform people of this. Then they won't have to waist their time!
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You got a ton of people in here saying how much they like the game and a handful of highly aggitated people bashing the crap out of it.
Didn't you made this post called "OMG I LOVE THIS GAME" where all you cheerleaders meet.
-Tons!
Hahahaha
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I'm actually the one laughing
People who dis-like a game generally post their opinion once or twice then remove the game from their hard-drive and never look at that game's forums or website again.
Its pretty obvious if you didn't like the game because of gaming reasons you would have left long ago.
I know I've played several games I've dis-liked, but I've never had the urge to create a sig that bashes them and stick around in its forums bashing people who do like the game.
You have got some problems dude. (i'm sure you're the same guy in both those posts since the "two" of you posted 3 miniutes a part at 5 in the morning)
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Am I a troll?
Don't know nothing about this trollingshit!
What the hell is a troll!?
The expression is used frekvently by oponents when their agruments doesn't win that's clear. But what is troll, is it some kind of emergencyexpression to call your nemesis in hope he'll become humiliated!?
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Dude he's got some personal issues with some players I think.
I think he was a huge fan of the game at one point but disagreed with putting other players in charge of the "Attack Objectives" in game and caused a ruckus. (just guessing but I'll bet I'm close)
Then a game mod caught him talking trash in game or on the forums about it and booted/suspened him - at which point he said "FOOK U GUY U ALL SUX" and then decided to go on an internet rampage about how much the game sucks to get even.
I'm just guessing, but I'll take bets I'm close or right on the money.
Dude he's got some personal issues with some players I think.
Nope!
I think he was a huge fan of the game at one point but disagreed with putting other players in charge of the "Attack Objectives" in game and caused a ruckus. (just guessing but I'll bet I'm close)
Since you taken such intress in my person and guessing what i am and what i have done i'm gonna award you!
Yes, i was a huge fan (who wasn't?)!
To remove the older ranked players posibillety to post "Attack Objectives" and gave it to some few made hundreds of players to leave, and that applyes on me to of cause.
Then a game mod caught him talking trash in game or on the forums about it and booted/suspened him
This actually happened when i criticized the frensh shitty rifle. I was suspended from the playschool for a year haha.
- at which point he said "FOOK U GUY U ALL SUX" and then decided to go on an internet rampage about how much the game sucks to get even.
Wrong! Never used badmouth in that maner. Further i'm not on a rampage, i'm only on this forum, that's hardly a rampage. Besides, rampagers are like berserks and i only disscuss and inform. And i can't tell people this game is wonderful because that would be a major lie, so i tell the truth about it's faults!
It's not about getting even, it's about helping the rats with the game. They need all the help they can get to get out of the mess they putted them selves in!
I'm just guessing, but I'll take bets I'm close or right on the money.
Yepp, you are a pretty good guesser, but then it's common knowledge why the masses are leaving this game!
And if you wan't answers about who or what i am don't guess just ask because iv'e got nothing to hide.
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