To put it in a less technical frame, lets talk about the spirit of this kind of rule, it is mean to stop one player having an advantage over another, to keep the playing field as level as possible, Person A plays wow and has huge resources on there, Person B does not, person A if allowed can use his gains in wow to help get his char in this game boosted thus unfair to person B who never set foot in wow.
Yes to me that violation is worthy of a permaban because people who like to change the rules of games to suit themselves or use gold buying etc services to get ahead I do not want in SWTOR.
Kudos to bioware for dealing with these problems so quickly.
Well by this logic..
If two brothers are playing and one brother offers to do the dishes for the other brother in exchange for some in game credits... that would be worth a perma ban as well. As player A has an unfair advantage over player B who does not have siblings.
Wow, now we are reaching, aren't we?
Here's the moral of the story, if you want to do something against the rules, do it in voice chat or other chatting avenues and not ingame where chat's are logged. cover your ass or deal with the consequences.
I smoke pot. it's illegal. i'm a good guy. should i go to jail if i get caught? by the standards of USA, yep, if i get caught with enough. So what do i do? i don't broker a deal with someone on the police scanner. hence i don't get caught, and all is well.
Agreed... and that's why I brought to everyone's attention. Because if it where me... I wouldn't have thought anything of it as I have done it in other games with no ill effects. I figured that gold farming rules where there for just that... to stop gold farmers... like actual gold farmers. And Im not one... so... if i played the game... this could have been me getting perma banned for something silly.
"Don't mistake a fun game for a good game... Checkers is fun to play but its not exactly the highest point of gaming design... and definatly not worth $60 plus $15 a month"
Hes just emo because people called him on his BS title, he seems to think its ok to have a title thats a flat out lie if it gets people to read hios thread.
Apparently stating the truth in my sig is "trolling" Sig typo fixed thanks to an observant stragen001.
Meh, sounds like another typical TOR/EA/BW bashing thread, but ok, whatever floats someone's boat -_-
The guy was only temporarily banned though if I read his comments correctly.
Originally posted by illorion
Originally posted by omome
you have moved past denial, past anger and now you are trying to bargain...this is textbook passage through the stages of grief. The sad thing is this is just a video game.
You know... i looked at your post history.... for like 25 pages... and every single one of them is in defense of this game.
I may not like the game... and spend time on the forums pointing out its flaws in design and management... but i dont have a game to play right now. You do.. or so it seems. It's almost like you spend more time on here defending the game then you do playing it...
Weird.
I didn't bother reading through your post history, too lazy or indifferent atm ^_^ , but if all your posts about TOR are attacking and bashing this game, aren't you doing exactly the same as the guy defending it?
Personally, when I'm not playing I usually focus on hobbies and games that I like, I hardly spent any time on games I dislike or don't care much about and see that more as odd and a waste of time. But hey, everyone's different, for some people their favorite way of spending time on forums is talking about games they hate/despise/dislike and bashing those, hardly any different than what can be seen on Youtube, so whatever does it for you, I guess :-) To each their own.
Well here isn't to much to play right now... Skyrim... thats about it... and ive sank hundreds of hours into it by now. I do enjoy being on the forums... not just this one. And I talk about this game because maybe... just maybe... if enough people tear into this AAA WoW clone then they will finally stop making them and make something different for a change.
"Don't mistake a fun game for a good game... Checkers is fun to play but its not exactly the highest point of gaming design... and definatly not worth $60 plus $15 a month"
Hes just emo because people called him on his BS title, he seems to think its ok to have a title thats a flat out lie if it gets people to read hios thread.
How was it a lie.
He asked a guildie to help him out in WoW in exchange for some help in SWTOR.... the title read
Player gets perma banned for asking guildie to help him in WoW... i dont see the blatant lie here.
Its not like it said "SWTOR bans player and kill his dog" or something
"Don't mistake a fun game for a good game... Checkers is fun to play but its not exactly the highest point of gaming design... and definatly not worth $60 plus $15 a month"
Originally posted by Toxia Wow, now we are reaching, aren't we? Here's the moral of the story, if you want to do something against the rules, do it in voice chat or other chatting avenues and not ingame where chat's are logged. cover your ass or deal with the consequences. I smoke pot. it's illegal. i'm a good guy. should i go to jail if i get caught? by the standards of USA, yep, if i get caught with enough. So what do i do? i don't broker a deal with someone on the police scanner. hence i don't get caught, and all is well.
This is actually a great argument on itself, even outside its appliance here to games but in general: there's always some rules to disagree with, but be careful with breaking them or accept the potential consequences.
wait a min wasnt that the guy that was raging (30 mins) about how wow is perfection.... and how swtor sucks so bad? and how he was going to go back to wow ....ect?
a now he gets banned (by mistake?) , and QQ about it ........now he got hes account back and
I remeber when LOTRO was being made and their fanboys had an airtight defense against the WoW guys, because you know, warcraft is a very bad ripoff of Tolkein.
Its impossible to call LOTRO a WoW ripoff when you know for a fact that if Tolkein hadn't written his books, we would have no WoW.
I can't tell if you are still bargaining or if you are soaking up the depression part yet.
If i changed it to that then people like you would complain that they expected a thread about sex in SWTOR or some crap like that and thats its still misleading... really the current title was my only option. Apperently to read a title and think critically is beyond some people
"Don't mistake a fun game for a good game... Checkers is fun to play but its not exactly the highest point of gaming design... and definatly not worth $60 plus $15 a month"
Well here isn't to much to play right now... Skyrim... thats about it... and ive sank hundreds of hours into it by now. I do enjoy being on the forums... not just this one. And I talk about this game because maybe... just maybe... if enough people tear into this AAA WoW clone then they will finally stop making them and make something different for a change.
Yeah who the fuck would want to make a successful game based on the most successful game of all time. OF ALL TIME!
The troll is strong in this one. I revoke my half-ass approval of this thread and all its contents.
I bet you are just chomping at the bit to get your hands on final fantasy 15 or 16 or 22 or whatever number they are on now... because you know... copying and pasting the same successful game over and over and over again is full of win
"Don't mistake a fun game for a good game... Checkers is fun to play but its not exactly the highest point of gaming design... and definatly not worth $60 plus $15 a month"
Amazing. The OP points out that someone got a TEMP Ban when he tried to break the terms of service of TWO different games and none of you feel sorry for this person?
Where is your heart? Where is your compassion?
Probably right where mine is, in the correct place. What the person did was a creative way of gold farming, but still gold farming no matter how you look at it and I for one am sorry that he did not receive a PERMANENT BAN for it.
Sorry OP, but no matter how you try to spin this it still comes out the same. The guy was wrong, was reported, and received punishment. In the world I was raised in that is called the RIGHT THING.
"If half of what you tell me is a lie, how can I believe any of it?"
I remeber when LOTRO was being made and their fanboys had an airtight defense against the WoW guys, because you know, warcraft is a very bad ripoff of Tolkein.
Its impossible to call LOTRO a WoW ripoff when you know for a fact that if Tolkein hadn't written his books, we would have no WoW.
Actually dwarves and elves and all that crap go wayyyy back long before tolkien to like the 11th century
"Don't mistake a fun game for a good game... Checkers is fun to play but its not exactly the highest point of gaming design... and definatly not worth $60 plus $15 a month"
Well here isn't to much to play right now... Skyrim... thats about it... and ive sank hundreds of hours into it by now. I do enjoy being on the forums... not just this one. And I talk about this game because maybe... just maybe... if enough people tear into this AAA WoW clone then they will finally stop making them and make something different for a change.
Yeah who the fuck would want to make a successful game based on the most successful game of all time. OF ALL TIME!
The troll is strong in this one. I revoke my half-ass approval of this thread and all its contents.
I bet you are just chomping at the bit to get your hands on final fantasy 15 or 16 or 22 or whatever number they are on now... because you know... copying and pasting the same successful game over and over and over again is full of win
seems to work for Blizzard, though I hear Diablo III is having trouble. I don't know how you could make something like that any harder than microwaving a hot pocket, but there you have it.
if enough people tear into this AAA WoW clone then they will finally stop making them and make something different for a change.
Everything you do here doesn't even put a dent in TOR's success (you read regardless of facts: lack of). I wish you would take a more positive approach to meet your goal like generating a lot of interest and spread work of what kinds of MMOs should be developed instead of mucking up the forums with troll threads.
Well here isn't to much to play right now... Skyrim... thats about it... and ive sank hundreds of hours into it by now. I do enjoy being on the forums... not just this one. And I talk about this game because maybe... just maybe... if enough people tear into this AAA WoW clone then they will finally stop making them and make something different for a change.
Yeah who the fuck would want to make a successful game based on the most successful game of all time. OF ALL TIME!
The troll is strong in this one. I revoke my half-ass approval of this thread and all its contents.
I bet you are just chomping at the bit to get your hands on final fantasy 15 or 16 or 22 or whatever number they are on now... because you know... copying and pasting the same successful game over and over and over again is full of win
If Final Fantasy wasn't Asian-trash childsplay to begin with then yes I would. But if was actually good then why not?
Their are other things to fritter the hours away other than gaming, MMO or otherwise. I choose the best things to waste time on. Discworld books for reading, for instance. Many good TV series that were copypasta over the years also. Music like Green Day that sound the same from 10,000 Slappy hours to American Idiot.
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I remeber when LOTRO was being made and their fanboys had an airtight defense against the WoW guys, because you know, warcraft is a very bad ripoff of Tolkein.
Its impossible to call LOTRO a WoW ripoff when you know for a fact that if Tolkein hadn't written his books, we would have no WoW.
Actually dwarves and elves and all that crap go wayyyy back long before tolkien to like the 11th century
but one in the 20th century would have any idea about that stuff if not for old J.R.R., I know it, you know it, even Led Zeppelin knows it...Lord of the Rings >>> Dungeons and Dragons >>> RPG>>> Ultima Online >>> then SWTOR.
Well here isn't to much to play right now... Skyrim... thats about it... and ive sank hundreds of hours into it by now. I do enjoy being on the forums... not just this one. And I talk about this game because maybe... just maybe... if enough people tear into this AAA WoW clone then they will finally stop making them and make something different for a change.
Yeah who the fuck would want to make a successful game based on the most successful game of all time. OF ALL TIME!
The troll is strong in this one. I revoke my half-ass approval of this thread and all its contents.
I bet you are just chomping at the bit to get your hands on final fantasy 15 or 16 or 22 or whatever number they are on now... because you know... copying and pasting the same successful game over and over and over again is full of win
*Final Fantasy Fanboi Defense Mechanism Activated*
Final Fantasy's are only loosely related to one another. They are tied only by lore, and not gameplay. FF1-14 have never been a heavy rehash of earlier titles, and almost all of them have major overhauls if not complete overhauls of battle systems and characters, the -2's not counting (ff10-2 and 13-2.) Please stick to the swtor/wow/whatever discussions, bringing my FF into this will only result on me heading to your crib and 'tickling' you, you big baby =P
Well here isn't to much to play right now... Skyrim... thats about it... and ive sank hundreds of hours into it by now. I do enjoy being on the forums... not just this one. And I talk about this game because maybe... just maybe... if enough people tear into this AAA WoW clone then they will finally stop making them and make something different for a change.
Yeah who the fuck would want to make a successful game based on the most successful game of all time. OF ALL TIME!
The troll is strong in this one. I revoke my half-ass approval of this thread and all its contents.
I bet you are just chomping at the bit to get your hands on final fantasy 15 or 16 or 22 or whatever number they are on now... because you know... copying and pasting the same successful game over and over and over again is full of win
? Wow...
If there has been a game franchise that HASN'T been copying and pasting their own successful game over and over again, then it's Final Fantasy. From FF1 to FF14, as good as all of them were different worlds, with different introduced gameplay features and minigames. Look at SC-SC2 and MW1-2-3 and Uncharted 1-2 etc and you may have a point. Final Fantasy, sorry, not so much.
As for your 'mission' to keep bashing TOR in the hopes of getting the MMO's you like 5 years later down the road, reality check: there are already a whole host of different, non-WoW themepark style MMO's upcoming this year and next no matter if TOR is a success or not. So that argument makes little (common) sense, at least to me.
Well here isn't to much to play right now... Skyrim... thats about it... and ive sank hundreds of hours into it by now. I do enjoy being on the forums... not just this one. And I talk about this game because maybe... just maybe... if enough people tear into this AAA WoW clone then they will finally stop making them and make something different for a change.
Yeah who the fuck would want to make a successful game based on the most successful game of all time. OF ALL TIME!
The troll is strong in this one. I revoke my half-ass approval of this thread and all its contents.
I bet you are just chomping at the bit to get your hands on final fantasy 15 or 16 or 22 or whatever number they are on now... because you know... copying and pasting the same successful game over and over and over again is full of win
seems to work for Blizzard, though I hear Diablo III is having trouble. I don't know how you could make something like that any harder than microwaving a hot pocket, but there you have it.
I'm in the Beta for D3. The only trouble I see is it is EXACTLY like 1 and 2. Slightly better graphics. But most fans want it that way, or so i've been told. Only played it for a couple of hours. Got a bruise on my forehead from falling asleep while playing and slammed into my desk.
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Amazing. The OP points out that someone got a TEMP Ban when he tried to break the terms of service of TWO different games and none of you feel sorry for this person?
Where is your heart? Where is your compassion?
Probably right where mine is, in the correct place. What the person did was a creative way of gold farming, but still gold farming no matter how you look at it and I for one am sorry that he did not receive a PERMANENT BAN for it.
Sorry OP, but no matter how you try to spin this it still comes out the same. The guy was wrong, was reported, and received punishment. In the world I was raised in that is called the RIGHT THING.
And with that... i think im done... You right... no matter how I look at it it is gold farming... thank you for showing me the error of my thoughts. Im so glad he is out of the game... who knows what kind of in game devistation that would have wrought on the economy... almost broke the whole damn game.
I am in awe at the benevolance of BW/EA in even allowing this... CRETIN... back into the game. I honestly don't know how they could allow such a person in an enviroment where children play... he should be arrested.
Crap now I have to make a new thread to rally people to arrest this crazy bastard
"Don't mistake a fun game for a good game... Checkers is fun to play but its not exactly the highest point of gaming design... and definatly not worth $60 plus $15 a month"
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Agreed... and that's why I brought to everyone's attention. Because if it where me... I wouldn't have thought anything of it as I have done it in other games with no ill effects. I figured that gold farming rules where there for just that... to stop gold farmers... like actual gold farmers. And Im not one... so... if i played the game... this could have been me getting perma banned for something silly.
"Don't mistake a fun game for a good game... Checkers is fun to play but its not exactly the highest point of gaming design... and definatly not worth $60 plus $15 a month"
Hes just emo because people called him on his BS title, he seems to think its ok to have a title thats a flat out lie if it gets people to read hios thread.
Apparently stating the truth in my sig is "trolling"
Sig typo fixed thanks to an observant stragen001.
Just change it to "BioWare is Immoral"
I can't tell if you are still bargaining or if you are soaking up the depression part yet.
The original was "TOR touched me in my special place. WoW player extorts credits to hush it up!"
Bartoni's Law definition: As an Internet discussion grows volatile, the probability of a comparison involving Donald Trump approaches 1.
Well here isn't to much to play right now... Skyrim... thats about it... and ive sank hundreds of hours into it by now. I do enjoy being on the forums... not just this one. And I talk about this game because maybe... just maybe... if enough people tear into this AAA WoW clone then they will finally stop making them and make something different for a change.
"Don't mistake a fun game for a good game... Checkers is fun to play but its not exactly the highest point of gaming design... and definatly not worth $60 plus $15 a month"
How was it a lie.
He asked a guildie to help him out in WoW in exchange for some help in SWTOR.... the title read
Player gets perma banned for asking guildie to help him in WoW... i dont see the blatant lie here.
Its not like it said "SWTOR bans player and kill his dog" or something
"Don't mistake a fun game for a good game... Checkers is fun to play but its not exactly the highest point of gaming design... and definatly not worth $60 plus $15 a month"
wait a min wasnt that the guy that was raging (30 mins) about how wow is perfection.... and how swtor sucks so bad? and how he was going to go back to wow ....ect?
a now he gets banned (by mistake?) , and QQ about it ........now he got hes account back and
wait for it
RESUBED and still playing swtor?
lies , lies everywhere
I remeber when LOTRO was being made and their fanboys had an airtight defense against the WoW guys, because you know, warcraft is a very bad ripoff of Tolkein.
Its impossible to call LOTRO a WoW ripoff when you know for a fact that if Tolkein hadn't written his books, we would have no WoW.
If i changed it to that then people like you would complain that they expected a thread about sex in SWTOR or some crap like that and thats its still misleading... really the current title was my only option. Apperently to read a title and think critically is beyond some people
"Don't mistake a fun game for a good game... Checkers is fun to play but its not exactly the highest point of gaming design... and definatly not worth $60 plus $15 a month"
Writing that in any chat was actually asking to get banned.
I bet you are just chomping at the bit to get your hands on final fantasy 15 or 16 or 22 or whatever number they are on now... because you know... copying and pasting the same successful game over and over and over again is full of win
"Don't mistake a fun game for a good game... Checkers is fun to play but its not exactly the highest point of gaming design... and definatly not worth $60 plus $15 a month"
Amazing. The OP points out that someone got a TEMP Ban when he tried to break the terms of service of TWO different games and none of you feel sorry for this person?
Where is your heart? Where is your compassion?
Probably right where mine is, in the correct place. What the person did was a creative way of gold farming, but still gold farming no matter how you look at it and I for one am sorry that he did not receive a PERMANENT BAN for it.
Sorry OP, but no matter how you try to spin this it still comes out the same. The guy was wrong, was reported, and received punishment. In the world I was raised in that is called the RIGHT THING.
"If half of what you tell me is a lie, how can I believe any of it?"
Actually dwarves and elves and all that crap go wayyyy back long before tolkien to like the 11th century
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elf
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dwarf_(Germanic_mythology)
"Don't mistake a fun game for a good game... Checkers is fun to play but its not exactly the highest point of gaming design... and definatly not worth $60 plus $15 a month"
seems to work for Blizzard, though I hear Diablo III is having trouble. I don't know how you could make something like that any harder than microwaving a hot pocket, but there you have it.
Its a JEDI way to snitch
Everything you do here doesn't even put a dent in TOR's success (you read regardless of facts: lack of). I wish you would take a more positive approach to meet your goal like generating a lot of interest and spread work of what kinds of MMOs should be developed instead of mucking up the forums with troll threads.
If Final Fantasy wasn't Asian-trash childsplay to begin with then yes I would. But if was actually good then why not?
Their are other things to fritter the hours away other than gaming, MMO or otherwise. I choose the best things to waste time on. Discworld books for reading, for instance. Many good TV series that were copypasta over the years also. Music like Green Day that sound the same from 10,000 Slappy hours to American Idiot.
Bartoni's Law definition: As an Internet discussion grows volatile, the probability of a comparison involving Donald Trump approaches 1.
but one in the 20th century would have any idea about that stuff if not for old J.R.R., I know it, you know it, even Led Zeppelin knows it...Lord of the Rings >>> Dungeons and Dragons >>> RPG>>> Ultima Online >>> then SWTOR.
*Final Fantasy Fanboi Defense Mechanism Activated*
Final Fantasy's are only loosely related to one another. They are tied only by lore, and not gameplay. FF1-14 have never been a heavy rehash of earlier titles, and almost all of them have major overhauls if not complete overhauls of battle systems and characters, the -2's not counting (ff10-2 and 13-2.) Please stick to the swtor/wow/whatever discussions, bringing my FF into this will only result on me heading to your crib and 'tickling' you, you big baby =P
The Deep Web is sca-ry.
Yeah who the fuck would want to make a successful game based on the most successful game of all time. OF ALL TIME!
The troll is strong in this one. I revoke my half-ass approval of this thread and all its contents.
I bet you are just chomping at the bit to get your hands on final fantasy 15 or 16 or 22 or whatever number they are on now... because you know... copying and pasting the same successful game over and over and over again is full of win
I'm in the Beta for D3. The only trouble I see is it is EXACTLY like 1 and 2. Slightly better graphics. But most fans want it that way, or so i've been told. Only played it for a couple of hours. Got a bruise on my forehead from falling asleep while playing and slammed into my desk.
Bartoni's Law definition: As an Internet discussion grows volatile, the probability of a comparison involving Donald Trump approaches 1.
okay OP, WHY SO SERIOUS!?!?!?!?!
And with that... i think im done... You right... no matter how I look at it it is gold farming... thank you for showing me the error of my thoughts. Im so glad he is out of the game... who knows what kind of in game devistation that would have wrought on the economy... almost broke the whole damn game.
I am in awe at the benevolance of BW/EA in even allowing this... CRETIN... back into the game. I honestly don't know how they could allow such a person in an enviroment where children play... he should be arrested.
Crap now I have to make a new thread to rally people to arrest this crazy bastard
"Don't mistake a fun game for a good game... Checkers is fun to play but its not exactly the highest point of gaming design... and definatly not worth $60 plus $15 a month"