SOE have a similar thing with EQ2, you need to subscribe to be able to use the cooler loot you have collected.
But at least you unlock the ENTIRE game when subscribing! Same in LOTRO and DDO!
But for Cryptic subscribing to the game was and never will be enough. That's the BIG difference here and why I have grown an extreme hate against Cryptic!
And now they are owned by PW, it will only get worse and worse.
Wrong.
There are store-only things that affect gameplay directly (give advantage) in Lotro (store-only relics, removal scrolls, stat- tomes, etc) + there are also boxes + store keys in Lotro as well Boxes are only way for example to get rare skin for monster player - don't think anyone got it yet. Diffrence is that keys can drop in game BUT drop rate is so low that keys are like Yeti - many heard noone saw lol
The Stat tomes is the only thing that comes to mind, but have absolutely ZERO affect on the game. Especially now the stat cap has been removed with RoI expac !
Stat tomes are nice for solo players and will make it easier to level during the lower levels, but that's pretty much it! At higher levels they have litterly no effect at all anymore and are just a waste of TP.
Store-only relics...
Besides Stats have no meaning on your main stat ,but other stats are usually lower or very low (that's how itemization is made) so for those stats tomes have significant impact.
Besides just ask (those who you know they won't lie) how many people doing end-game raids have bought stat tomes.
Those I know - most have.
Not to mention that stat tomes are frequently best selling thing in store. Same was with store-only relics , I still remember great setting relic for wardens when cap was 65 - it allowed me to make MUCH better build. Was best setting for warden at the time.
All items that can be awarded by the Cardassian Lock Box can be traded or sold on the auction house to other players. So if you get something you don’t want or need, you can trade them away. The Lock Boxes themselves can also be traded or auctioned if you don’t want to open them.
As everything can be traded.. chanses are high that most things in the Boxes will hit the Auction house.. people with enough Dilithium will trade for C points.. open Boxes.. sell on market for ingame currency.. Dosent look to be that bad to be honest.. If everything in the BOX and the BOX iteself was a BOP item, I would fee much diffrent about this.. Now I think its kinda okey..
Much like the SWG card game, with the cards actually being ingame. For all intents and purposes, you are paying out 100 points worth of Cryptic cash on a "mystery box". To say that subscribers could use their "stipend" instead of real money is insulting to pretty much anyone's intelligence.
Much like the SWG card game, with the cards actually being ingame. For all intents and purposes, you are paying out 100 points worth of Cryptic cash on a "mystery box". To say that subscribers could use their "stipend" instead of real money is insulting to pretty much anyone's intelligence.
I agree. I would also bet that those players out there who spent wads of cash on gift boxes are going to do the same with these too. They can buy hundreds of boxes on the exchange (since EC really has no value and is easy to come by), then buy the keys for C-Points.
All items that can be awarded by the Cardassian Lock Box can be traded or sold on the auction house to other players. So if you get something you don’t want or need, you can trade them away. The Lock Boxes themselves can also be traded or auctioned if you don’t want to open them.
As everything can be traded.. chanses are high that most things in the Boxes will hit the Auction house.. people with enough Dilithium will trade for C points.. open Boxes.. sell on market for ingame currency.. Dosent look to be that bad to be honest.. If everything in the BOX and the BOX iteself was a BOP item, I would fee much diffrent about this.. Now I think its kinda okey..
Yeah, people tend to forget you can get CP in STO without spending any real money and not in LOTRO/DDO fashion where it's pretty strictly limited per character. Yeah, you'll work your ass off because "dilithium to CP" rates are pretty crazy and will probably get even worse after this kicks in, but there is no arbitrary limitation on how many of either you can have in total.
Civilized men are more discourteous than savages because they know they can be impolite without having their skulls split, as a general thing.
SOE have a similar thing with EQ2, you need to subscribe to be able to use the cooler loot you have collected.
But at least you unlock the ENTIRE game when subscribing! Same in LOTRO and DDO!
But for Cryptic subscribing to the game was and never will be enough. That's the BIG difference here and why I have grown an extreme hate against Cryptic!
And now they are owned by PW, it will only get worse and worse.
All items that can be awarded by the Cardassian Lock Box can be traded or sold on the auction house to other players. So if you get something you don’t want or need, you can trade them away. The Lock Boxes themselves can also be traded or auctioned if you don’t want to open them.
As everything can be traded.. chanses are high that most things in the Boxes will hit the Auction house.. people with enough Dilithium will trade for C points.. open Boxes.. sell on market for ingame currency.. Dosent look to be that bad to be honest.. If everything in the BOX and the BOX iteself was a BOP item, I would fee much diffrent about this.. Now I think its kinda okey..
Yeah, people tend to forget you can get CP in STO without spending any real money and not in LOTRO/DDO fashion where it's pretty strictly limited per character. Yeah, you'll work your ass off because "dilithium to CP" rates are pretty crazy and will probably get even worse after this kicks in, but there is no arbitrary limitation on how many of either you can have in total.
Can you directly trade currency player-to-player?
If so, i can imagine asking players to open lockboxes for Dilithium or EC if they need that, or trade materials i don't need for the service.
I actually would see that as beneficial to the games economy.
If so, i can imagine asking players to open lockboxes for Dilithium or EC if they need that, or trade materials i don't need for the service.
I actually would see that as beneficial to the games economy.
I don't know if you can trade CPs, I don't think you can trade dilithium, and I believe you can trade energy credits (at least to your own faction, I'm not sure if they allow cross-faction trading).
"Oh my, how horrible, someone is criticizing a MMO. Oh yeah, that is what a forum is about, looking at both sides. You rather have to be critical of anything in this genre as of late because the track record of these major studios has just been appalling." -Ozmodan
If so, i can imagine asking players to open lockboxes for Dilithium or EC if they need that, or trade materials i don't need for the service.
I actually would see that as beneficial to the games economy.
I don't know if you can trade CPs, I don't think you can trade dilithium, and I believe you can trade energy credits (at least to your own faction, I'm not sure if they allow cross-faction trading).
Yeah i checked it just now.
You could still pay someone with items you bought for Dilithium though or materials they want.
I think that might expand the eceonomy quite a bit.
Just goes to show what a flagrant cash grab this new lock box crap is. Whenever "someone" gets a Galor ship in a lock box, their user handle flashes across your screen letting you know "XYZ123 has receieved a Cardassian Galor Ship!" This message pops up regardless of what you are doing in game, and there is no way to turn it off.
Just goes to show what a flagrant cash grab this new lock box crap is. Whenever "someone" gets a Galor ship in a lock box, their user handle flashes across your screen letting you know "XYZ123 has receieved a Cardassian Galor Ship!" This message pops up regardless of what you are doing in game, and there is no way to turn it off.
Cash Grab Online has only begun...
Heh, I have been following that thread as well. It seems that Cryptic wants to put the Galor ship front and center for the duration of the master key availability (ends march 19th) so that people see others getting theirs. It encourages people to buy C-store points. I think people are just feeling snubbed a little every time they see one of those messages. Its like "hey, they got a ship but you didn't!"
Here is a post that illustrates the spam people are seeing, though not all claim to have seen so many of these messages in a short span of time.
Anyway, any time I get a thread idea to post here, you have already gone and done it ShardWarrior. You in my head? Heh heh, just kidding of course.
I am not sure it is a feeling of being snubbed versus being unnecessarily spammed by stupidity. Folks in that thread seem to be of the general consensus that they could give 2 hoots who got a ship. They just do not want the text spammed across their screen every 5 minutes.
Of course it is a flagrant (and desperately pathetic) cash grab attempt by Cryptic/PWE. It is sad to see CBS approving such nonsense.
Originally posted by ShardWarrior I am not sure it is a feeling of being snubbed versus being unnecessarily spammed by stupidity. Folks in that thread seem to be of the general consensus that they could give 2 hoots who got a ship. They just do not want the text spammed across their screen every 5 minutes.
Of course it is a flagrant (and desperately pathetic) cash grab attempt by Cryptic/PWE. It is sad to see CBS approving such nonsense.
Yeah, this is true. I was speaking more about the people who really want the ship and are buying loads of points in order to acquire it. Though yeah, most people are saying they are annoyed by the spam in the forums and I would be as well.
The Nagus had a nice post about the spam. And speaking of spam this person brings up another good, and somewhat amusing point as well.
You could still pay someone with items you bought for Dilithium though or materials they want.
I think that might expand the eceonomy quite a bit.
I thought that the items you bought from NPCs for dilithium were bound to that character? At least that was my understanding.
"Oh my, how horrible, someone is criticizing a MMO. Oh yeah, that is what a forum is about, looking at both sides. You rather have to be critical of anything in this genre as of late because the track record of these major studios has just been appalling." -Ozmodan
Of course it is a flagrant (and desperately pathetic) cash grab attempt by Cryptic/PWE. It is sad to see CBS approving such nonsense.
On the contrary, CBS has shown it is more than willing to whore out any IP on even the slimmest chance it will make them money. I have no doubt they are ok with what Cryptic do as long as they get money.
"Oh my, how horrible, someone is criticizing a MMO. Oh yeah, that is what a forum is about, looking at both sides. You rather have to be critical of anything in this genre as of late because the track record of these major studios has just been appalling." -Ozmodan
There are plenty of ways to get people to spend money on F2P games that wont make it pay 2 win or a cheap gimmick like this. Reminds me of some kind of facebook game.
I used to believe that. Turbine was touted as having a good hybrid model, but they have slowly been approaching P2W as well.
What games have F2P payment models that you like? For me LOTRO still may have the best model but I still have major issues with them. US F2P MMOs have a long way to go before they end up like the crappy asian P2W MMOs.
At the present time, I am unable to pay cash for items in Star Trek Online.
However, with the Dilithium Exchange you are able to refine up to 8000 per day then use those to exchange for C Store Points.
Moneygrabtic (aka Cryptic) is essentially selling you whatever ingame stuff you want for real cash.
Even to me as someone who stopped playing this online store... err online game a long time ago, after realizing how they are trying to milk or even scam the players for every cent possible, it is common knowledge of how the scheme works. Then again they still seem to remain afloat which means there are enough mentally... not so gifted people around throwing money at that company. So posting the following might end up resulting in even more guillible people gifting cash to Craptic.
Let's just hope the educational systems of this world are not quite as bad as it seems these days and the majority of people will not fall for the company's tricks.
Anyway, "not able to pay cash for items in STO"? Think again:
Buy a ton of junkpoints (aka c-$tore points) for real cash, sell them in the dilithium exchange for dilithium, go to the dilithium store and buy pretty much whatever high end/max level gear etc. (including those new locked boxes) you desire.
And surprise surprise, the direct access buttons to both of those two junkyards (aka stores) are right next to each other, below the minimap about as much "in your face" as it gets, who would have thought... right, at this point pretty much anyone who knows Craptic let alone Perfect World.
Of course it is a flagrant (and desperately pathetic) cash grab attempt by Cryptic/PWE. It is sad to see CBS approving such nonsense.
On the contrary, CBS has shown it is more than willing to whore out any IP on even the slimmest chance it will make them money. I have no doubt they are ok with what Cryptic do as long as they get money.
Read my post again. I know it is ultimately CBS who has to signoff before it goes in game. Hence, my comment that it is sad to see CBS approving this stuff.
At this point, it wouldn't matter. It would simply add more fuel to the fire.
Most of us internally agree that we should have shown the odds ahead of time. But after seeing the community's reaction to the boxes, there's no good that can now come from publishing the exact odds. To the majority of those that have complained, it would be seen as an admission of some sort of guilt, which is an inaccurate message to portray.
I find it amazing that players actually fall for these line of BS from Cryptic. They do not post the odds because they do not want to hurt the sales of their loot boxes. Period. They figure if you know you have a less than 1% chance to win something you want, you will be less inclined to part with that cash Cryptic is so desperate for.
After having two vice admiral accounts, and have enjoyed the game for free till now. This mornings actions by Cryptic have become blatant. What they have done now was shut down the exchange so the only way for their in house rigged casino to pay off in real cash was to do this and claim some bogus claim that it somehow broke for the first time.
My wife and I were almost willing to create two account subscriptions, but I am unwilling to reward deceptive and somewhat illegal behavior. This would have been illegal prior to 2001.
This is getting a bit ridiculous... First of we have an ingame Currency in STO that is not bought with real money.. we can trade and buy stuff with it as in anny other MMO... Energy credits its called I think..
second we have the Dilithium that we can transfer two C store money... Or buy ships for ingame or special items etc...
So in fact we have 3 diffrent currencys in game E, D and C...
You get Energy credits very easaly its not hard at all to grind up a massive amount of E credit..
Dilithium Credits are harder to get as you can anly get 8000 per day.. the grind to Refine 8k dilithium is a walk in the park though, dosent take more then a few hours at most...
Now the new LOOT BOX will be opend with C credits.. we can only get this by spending REAL money BUT YOU CAN TRADE THOSE ITEMS YOU FIND TO OTHER PLAYERS ON THE MARKET FOR Energy credits...
So if somone gets a second Cardasian ship he can put it on the market and people can buy it... or any other item that is FOUND inside the BOX.. this means that people dont have to spend a DIME of REAL MONEY IF THEY DONT WANT 2. As long as someone is nice enough to put it up on the Exchange/AH.. you can buy the item for ingame currency E...
hope this clears up all this missconceptions about what a RIPP off this is...
Another thing.. you dont have a million diffren ships in this game and even if you would spend some money on the C store wont be more then you would if you bought the game and subbed for a month... And you can over time save up enough Dilithium to buy the ship you want ... you just have to play the GAME... a few months... OMG its free it cost you nothing to play it...
You can do 3 pvp scenarios over and over, doing 3 takes about 15-30m and gives 1440 dilithium, Each day you can do an exploration takes 30-1hour tops gives you 1440 dilithium.. you can compleat 3 player created missions, goes very fast if you use the NAGAS.. and it gives you 1440 dilithium.. Your offline Duty officers can bring in annything from 5-2000 dilithium depending on the mission you send them on and how well they do it.. Combining these things and you might have to spend 3-4 hours getting your 8K a day... and I suspect you can do it even faster if you want...
This is getting a bit ridiculous... First of we have an ingame Currency in STO that is not bought with real money.. we can trade and buy stuff with it as in anny other MMO... Energy credits its called I think..
second we have the Dilithium that we can transfer two C store money... Or buy ships for ingame or special items etc...
So in fact we have 3 diffrent currencys in game E, D and C...
You get Energy credits very easaly its not hard at all to grind up a massive amount of E credit..
Dilithium Credits are harder to get as you can anly get 8000 per day.. the grind to Refine 8k dilithium is a walk in the park though, dosent take more then a few hours at most...
Now the new LOOT BOX will be opend with C credits.. we can only get this by spending REAL money BUT YOU CAN TRADE THOSE ITEMS YOU FIND TO OTHER PLAYERS ON THE MARKET FOR Energy credits...
So if somone gets a second Cardasian ship he can put it on the market and people can buy it... or any other item that is FOUND inside the BOX.. this means that people dont have to spend a DIME of REAL MONEY IF THEY DONT WANT 2. As long as someone is nice enough to put it up on the Exchange/AH.. you can buy the item for ingame currency E...
hope this clears up all this missconceptions about what a RIPP off this is...
Another thing.. you dont have a million diffren ships in this game and even if you would spend some money on the C store wont be more then you would if you bought the game and subbed for a month... And you can over time save up enough Dilithium to buy the ship you want ... you just have to play the GAME... a few months... OMG its free it cost you nothing to play it...
You can do 3 pvp scenarios over and over, doing 3 takes about 15-30m and gives 1440 dilithium, Each day you can do an exploration takes 30-1hour tops gives you 1440 dilithium.. you can compleat 3 player created missions, goes very fast if you use the NAGAS.. and it gives you 1440 dilithium.. Your offline Duty officers can bring in annything from 5-2000 dilithium depending on the mission you send them on and how well they do it.. Combining these things and you might have to spend 3-4 hours getting your 8K a day... and I suspect you can do it even faster if you want...
you missed my point. Today that one way to exchange Cpoints for Dilithium all of a sudden, for the first time since I have played the game, was disable by Cryptic.
This is getting a bit ridiculous... First of we have an ingame Currency in STO that is not bought with real money.. we can trade and buy stuff with it as in anny other MMO... Energy credits its called I think..
second we have the Dilithium that we can transfer two C store money... Or buy ships for ingame or special items etc...
So in fact we have 3 diffrent currencys in game E, D and C...
You get Energy credits very easaly its not hard at all to grind up a massive amount of E credit..
Dilithium Credits are harder to get as you can anly get 8000 per day.. the grind to Refine 8k dilithium is a walk in the park though, dosent take more then a few hours at most...
Now the new LOOT BOX will be opend with C credits.. we can only get this by spending REAL money BUT YOU CAN TRADE THOSE ITEMS YOU FIND TO OTHER PLAYERS ON THE MARKET FOR Energy credits...
So if somone gets a second Cardasian ship he can put it on the market and people can buy it... or any other item that is FOUND inside the BOX.. this means that people dont have to spend a DIME of REAL MONEY IF THEY DONT WANT 2. As long as someone is nice enough to put it up on the Exchange/AH.. you can buy the item for ingame currency E...
hope this clears up all this missconceptions about what a RIPP off this is...
Another thing.. you dont have a million diffren ships in this game and even if you would spend some money on the C store wont be more then you would if you bought the game and subbed for a month... And you can over time save up enough Dilithium to buy the ship you want ... you just have to play the GAME... a few months... OMG its free it cost you nothing to play it...
You can do 3 pvp scenarios over and over, doing 3 takes about 15-30m and gives 1440 dilithium, Each day you can do an exploration takes 30-1hour tops gives you 1440 dilithium.. you can compleat 3 player created missions, goes very fast if you use the NAGAS.. and it gives you 1440 dilithium.. Your offline Duty officers can bring in annything from 5-2000 dilithium depending on the mission you send them on and how well they do it.. Combining these things and you might have to spend 3-4 hours getting your 8K a day... and I suspect you can do it even faster if you want...
you missed my point. Today that one way to exchange Cpoints for Dilithium all of a sudden, for the first time since I have played the game, was disable by Cryptic.
But im guessing it will come back up? or have we gotten a statment saying we are closing the Exchange for good? if so we are in a diffrent situation...
I read it was back up.. it has gone down before... its not new.. also if its down a DAY or 2 you just have to wait to convert.. you can still get your daily 8k... refined.. so its not really a problem as long as it at some point comes back up. I they take it away then that is another story though..
After having two vice admiral accounts, and have enjoyed the game for free till now. This mornings actions by Cryptic have become blatant. What they have done now was shut down the exchange so the only way for their in house rigged casino to pay off in real cash was to do this and claim some bogus claim that it somehow broke for the first time.
My wife and I were almost willing to create two account subscriptions, but I am unwilling to reward deceptive and somewhat illegal behavior. This would have been illegal prior to 2001.
Cardasian ships , today , Jem-Hadar for X-mas , when do the Romulan, Borg etc.. ones become availible ? I find it hilarious that people are up in arms now . Cryptic has been pulling this crap since the game was announced . I guess the question begs , how high does the crap have to stack before people have figured out how bad Craptic is ?
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Store-only relics...
Besides Stats have no meaning on your main stat ,but other stats are usually lower or very low (that's how itemization is made) so for those stats tomes have significant impact.
Besides just ask (those who you know they won't lie) how many people doing end-game raids have bought stat tomes.
Those I know - most have.
Not to mention that stat tomes are frequently best selling thing in store. Same was with store-only relics , I still remember great setting relic for wardens when cap was 65 - it allowed me to make MUCH better build. Was best setting for warden at the time.
All items that can be awarded by the Cardassian Lock Box can be traded or sold on the auction house to other players. So if you get something you don’t want or need, you can trade them away. The Lock Boxes themselves can also be traded or auctioned if you don’t want to open them.
As everything can be traded.. chanses are high that most things in the Boxes will hit the Auction house.. people with enough Dilithium will trade for C points.. open Boxes.. sell on market for ingame currency.. Dosent look to be that bad to be honest.. If everything in the BOX and the BOX iteself was a BOP item, I would fee much diffrent about this.. Now I think its kinda okey..
The system reeks of internet gambling.
Much like the SWG card game, with the cards actually being ingame. For all intents and purposes, you are paying out 100 points worth of Cryptic cash on a "mystery box". To say that subscribers could use their "stipend" instead of real money is insulting to pretty much anyone's intelligence.
I agree. I would also bet that those players out there who spent wads of cash on gift boxes are going to do the same with these too. They can buy hundreds of boxes on the exchange (since EC really has no value and is easy to come by), then buy the keys for C-Points.
Yeah, people tend to forget you can get CP in STO without spending any real money and not in LOTRO/DDO fashion where it's pretty strictly limited per character. Yeah, you'll work your ass off because "dilithium to CP" rates are pretty crazy and will probably get even worse after this kicks in, but there is no arbitrary limitation on how many of either you can have in total.
I lol'd so hard I almost fell out of my chair.
Can you directly trade currency player-to-player?
If so, i can imagine asking players to open lockboxes for Dilithium or EC if they need that, or trade materials i don't need for the service.
I actually would see that as beneficial to the games economy.
I don't know if you can trade CPs, I don't think you can trade dilithium, and I believe you can trade energy credits (at least to your own faction, I'm not sure if they allow cross-faction trading).
"Oh my, how horrible, someone is criticizing a MMO. Oh yeah, that is what a forum is about, looking at both sides. You rather have to be critical of anything in this genre as of late because the track record of these major studios has just been appalling." -Ozmodan
Yeah i checked it just now.
You could still pay someone with items you bought for Dilithium though or materials they want.
I think that might expand the eceonomy quite a bit.
You all might enjoy this thread over on the offical STO forums; http://forums.startrekonline.com/showthread.php?t=253446
Just goes to show what a flagrant cash grab this new lock box crap is. Whenever "someone" gets a Galor ship in a lock box, their user handle flashes across your screen letting you know "XYZ123 has receieved a Cardassian Galor Ship!" This message pops up regardless of what you are doing in game, and there is no way to turn it off.
Cash Grab Online has only begun...
Heh, I have been following that thread as well. It seems that Cryptic wants to put the Galor ship front and center for the duration of the master key availability (ends march 19th) so that people see others getting theirs. It encourages people to buy C-store points. I think people are just feeling snubbed a little every time they see one of those messages. Its like "hey, they got a ship but you didn't!"
Here is a post that illustrates the spam people are seeing, though not all claim to have seen so many of these messages in a short span of time.
Anyway, any time I get a thread idea to post here, you have already gone and done it ShardWarrior. You in my head? Heh heh, just kidding of course.
I am not sure it is a feeling of being snubbed versus being unnecessarily spammed by stupidity. Folks in that thread seem to be of the general consensus that they could give 2 hoots who got a ship. They just do not want the text spammed across their screen every 5 minutes.
Of course it is a flagrant (and desperately pathetic) cash grab attempt by Cryptic/PWE. It is sad to see CBS approving such nonsense.
Yeah, this is true. I was speaking more about the people who really want the ship and are buying loads of points in order to acquire it. Though yeah, most people are saying they are annoyed by the spam in the forums and I would be as well.
The Nagus had a nice post about the spam. And speaking of spam this person brings up another good, and somewhat amusing point as well.
I thought that the items you bought from NPCs for dilithium were bound to that character? At least that was my understanding.
"Oh my, how horrible, someone is criticizing a MMO. Oh yeah, that is what a forum is about, looking at both sides. You rather have to be critical of anything in this genre as of late because the track record of these major studios has just been appalling." -Ozmodan
On the contrary, CBS has shown it is more than willing to whore out any IP on even the slimmest chance it will make them money. I have no doubt they are ok with what Cryptic do as long as they get money.
"Oh my, how horrible, someone is criticizing a MMO. Oh yeah, that is what a forum is about, looking at both sides. You rather have to be critical of anything in this genre as of late because the track record of these major studios has just been appalling." -Ozmodan
I used to believe that. Turbine was touted as having a good hybrid model, but they have slowly been approaching P2W as well.
What games have F2P payment models that you like? For me LOTRO still may have the best model but I still have major issues with them. US F2P MMOs have a long way to go before they end up like the crappy asian P2W MMOs.
At the present time, I am unable to pay cash for items in Star Trek Online.
However, with the Dilithium Exchange you are able to refine up to 8000 per day then use those to exchange for C Store Points.
Moneygrabtic (aka Cryptic) is essentially selling you whatever ingame stuff you want for real cash.
Even to me as someone who stopped playing this online store... err online game a long time ago, after realizing how they are trying to milk or even scam the players for every cent possible, it is common knowledge of how the scheme works. Then again they still seem to remain afloat which means there are enough mentally... not so gifted people around throwing money at that company. So posting the following might end up resulting in even more guillible people gifting cash to Craptic.
Let's just hope the educational systems of this world are not quite as bad as it seems these days and the majority of people will not fall for the company's tricks.
Anyway, "not able to pay cash for items in STO"? Think again:
Buy a ton of junkpoints (aka c-$tore points) for real cash, sell them in the dilithium exchange for dilithium, go to the dilithium store and buy pretty much whatever high end/max level gear etc. (including those new locked boxes) you desire.
And surprise surprise, the direct access buttons to both of those two junkyards (aka stores) are right next to each other, below the minimap about as much "in your face" as it gets, who would have thought... right, at this point pretty much anyone who knows Craptic let alone Perfect World.
Read my post again.
I know it is ultimately CBS who has to signoff before it goes in game. Hence, my comment that it is sad to see CBS approving this stuff.
Another interesting thread from here: http://forums.startrekonline.com/showthread.php?t=253719
I find it amazing that players actually fall for these line of BS from Cryptic. They do not post the odds because they do not want to hurt the sales of their loot boxes. Period. They figure if you know you have a less than 1% chance to win something you want, you will be less inclined to part with that cash Cryptic is so desperate for.
After having two vice admiral accounts, and have enjoyed the game for free till now. This mornings actions by Cryptic have become blatant. What they have done now was shut down the exchange so the only way for their in house rigged casino to pay off in real cash was to do this and claim some bogus claim that it somehow broke for the first time.
My wife and I were almost willing to create two account subscriptions, but I am unwilling to reward deceptive and somewhat illegal behavior. This would have been illegal prior to 2001.
This is getting a bit ridiculous... First of we have an ingame Currency in STO that is not bought with real money.. we can trade and buy stuff with it as in anny other MMO... Energy credits its called I think..
second we have the Dilithium that we can transfer two C store money... Or buy ships for ingame or special items etc...
So in fact we have 3 diffrent currencys in game E, D and C...
You get Energy credits very easaly its not hard at all to grind up a massive amount of E credit..
Dilithium Credits are harder to get as you can anly get 8000 per day.. the grind to Refine 8k dilithium is a walk in the park though, dosent take more then a few hours at most...
Now the new LOOT BOX will be opend with C credits.. we can only get this by spending REAL money BUT YOU CAN TRADE THOSE ITEMS YOU FIND TO OTHER PLAYERS ON THE MARKET FOR Energy credits...
So if somone gets a second Cardasian ship he can put it on the market and people can buy it... or any other item that is FOUND inside the BOX.. this means that people dont have to spend a DIME of REAL MONEY IF THEY DONT WANT 2. As long as someone is nice enough to put it up on the Exchange/AH.. you can buy the item for ingame currency E...
hope this clears up all this missconceptions about what a RIPP off this is...
Another thing.. you dont have a million diffren ships in this game and even if you would spend some money on the C store wont be more then you would if you bought the game and subbed for a month... And you can over time save up enough Dilithium to buy the ship you want ... you just have to play the GAME... a few months... OMG its free it cost you nothing to play it...
You can do 3 pvp scenarios over and over, doing 3 takes about 15-30m and gives 1440 dilithium, Each day you can do an exploration takes 30-1hour tops gives you 1440 dilithium.. you can compleat 3 player created missions, goes very fast if you use the NAGAS.. and it gives you 1440 dilithium.. Your offline Duty officers can bring in annything from 5-2000 dilithium depending on the mission you send them on and how well they do it.. Combining these things and you might have to spend 3-4 hours getting your 8K a day... and I suspect you can do it even faster if you want...
you missed my point. Today that one way to exchange Cpoints for Dilithium all of a sudden, for the first time since I have played the game, was disable by Cryptic.
But im guessing it will come back up? or have we gotten a statment saying we are closing the Exchange for good? if so we are in a diffrent situation...
I read it was back up.. it has gone down before... its not new.. also if its down a DAY or 2 you just have to wait to convert.. you can still get your daily 8k... refined.. so its not really a problem as long as it at some point comes back up. I they take it away then that is another story though..
Cardasian ships , today , Jem-Hadar for X-mas , when do the Romulan, Borg etc.. ones become availible ? I find it hilarious that people are up in arms now . Cryptic has been pulling this crap since the game was announced . I guess the question begs , how high does the crap have to stack before people have figured out how bad Craptic is ?