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EA does it again

revy66revy66 Member Posts: 464

Microsoft accidentally posted early Mass Effect 3 DLC on Xbox live even without the game released (taken down as of this moment). The DLC features new content and a new Prothean crew member and is also free to everyone who purchases the CE of the game, to everyone else it will be available for purchase at launch. It was measured at 600MB before it was taken down.

 

 

Bioware's response:

 




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Hi all!



We're happy to confirm that Mass Effect 3: From Ashes DLC will be available at launch for all platforms. For those of you who have purchased the N7 Collector's Edition (including the PC Digital Deluxe Edition), you will get this content at no extra charge. We'll have a lot more details for you later this week! Stay Tuned!


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  • StonesDKStonesDK Member UncommonPosts: 1,805

    That's just rediculous

     

    I can see why people choose to pirate games sometimes with moves like these

  • ShakyMoShakyMo Member CommonPosts: 7,207
    Ea killing good dev houses since 1996

    I think its safe to say bioware aren't really bioware anymore following da2 and torcraft and are now just a part of the amorphous ea blob. I'm holding out a year on me3 to buy a full version for less money (and to find out if its,actually any good)
  • killersjoykillersjoy Member Posts: 4

    Im pretty excited about it. I do agree bioware is now just "ea"

    "find a new way home pizza boy"

  • KenFisherKenFisher Member UncommonPosts: 5,035

    Talk about a funny goof-up at MS.  Great post.


    Ken Fisher - Semi retired old fart Network Administrator, now working in Network Security.  I don't Forum PVP.  If you feel I've attacked you, it was probably by accident.  When I don't understand, I ask.  Such is not intended as criticism.
  • aionixaionix Member UncommonPosts: 288

    Yup, EA realy loves to be hated.....damn, I used to really ove Bioware too.  This is like getting over an ex that dumped you....hurts deep.

  • jdnewelljdnewell Member UncommonPosts: 2,237

    The sad part is people will line up in droves to purchase this DLC. Even knowing it was ready before release and held until after just to nickle and dime folks.

    No suprise really tho. I honestly would have been shocked had there not been DLC available on release day for purchase.

  • skullquakerskullquaker Member UncommonPosts: 311

    i was going to buy  me3   think  ill wait now

  • Sora2810Sora2810 Member Posts: 567

    Originally posted by Starpower

    That's just rediculous

     

    I can see why people choose to pirate games sometimes with moves like these

    Hah. That's a good point there. Publishers want to eliminate pirating, so they do crazy things. (Ubi's Always Online Authentication. Quite sad that legit players actually cried out to pirates asking for help so they can play the game they bought. <3 Robin Hood.)

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  • thexratedthexrated Member UncommonPosts: 1,368

    Games are overpriced when they launch. You can get them for more approriate prices after few months. I never bought Dark Souls on XBOX and ordered it now for about 12€. The same with most games. The main problem is that most people are willing to pay for the novely of playing early. Many are waiting ME3 with enthusiasm. The other problem is that many are more than willing to pay $10 for substandard DLC content. 

    The good thing is that with Bioware games we get around 40-50 hours worth of gaming, which gives a reasonable value for your buck. You have to remember that many were willing to pay $60-70 for Space Marine's 8 hour campaign. 

    The companies that I personally feel supporting in the RPG genre are Bethesda and CD Projekt. In fact, I am justing waiting for EA to get rid of the Bioware brand in next few years. I have a nagging feeling that there is very little left of original Bioware anyway. 

     

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  • DistopiaDistopia Member EpicPosts: 21,183

    Originally posted by jdnewell

    The sad part is people will line up in droves to purchase this DLC. Even knowing it was ready before release and held until after just to nickle and dime folks.

    No suprise really tho. I honestly would have been shocked had there not been DLC available on release day for purchase.

    It truly is sad, my GF and I were discussing this last night we both decided we didn't even want to try the demo now. I'm a huge ME fan at that, I'll wait for a trade in next year or borrow it from a friend, I won't be visiting any link or avenue that helps this game out

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  • MosesZDMosesZD Member UncommonPosts: 1,361

    I read it was 129K 'key-patch' and that the download wasn't required because it's in the game.    Also, while they say it was a different studio, that's meaningless for two reasons.  

     

    First, mMost big games have 'sub-studios' when they're made.    Either contracted for extra help, or just differently named divisions.   The new Deus Ex was like that.  

     

    Second, the November 2011 leaked ME3 script had the Prothean character in it.     Now it's not in it.   And it costs extra.

     

     

    Sure, they deny.  But they're pretty much liars.   BioWare has been dishonest plenty of times in the past.  The NWN DM tool never worked like they said it would.  They released Jade Empire on PC even though the said it was "XBox" EXCLUSIVE.   They blame everyone but themselves for their broken SWTOR engine... 

     

    And so it goes...

     

     

  • TyvolusNextTyvolusNext Member Posts: 192

    Originally posted by Starpower

    That's just rediculous

     

    I can see why people choose to pirate games sometimes with moves like these

    stealing can rarely if ever be justified.  I mean, if you need a loaf of bread or you will starve -- sure I get that.  Stealing a video game, because you dont agree with the pricing model ?  Just dont buy the game kid...and get a real job.

  • TruthXHurtsTruthXHurts Member UncommonPosts: 1,555

    Originally posted by TyvolusNext

    Originally posted by Starpower

    That's just rediculous

     

    I can see why people choose to pirate games sometimes with moves like these

    stealing can rarely if ever be justified.  I mean, if you need a loaf of bread or you will starve -- sure I get that.  Stealing a video game, because you dont agree with the pricing model ?  Just dont buy the game kid...and get a real job.

    What about the government stealing from you adn giving the money to bank? Is that ok?

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  • Panther2103Panther2103 Member EpicPosts: 5,779

    I read the reason that they have launch day DLC is because after the game is already sent out to be mass produced by manufacturers the team doesn't have much to do other than create DLC or start a new game, so they chose to make DLC and stomp out bugs for patches.

  • DAS1337DAS1337 Member UncommonPosts: 2,610

    Originally posted by TruthXHurts

    Originally posted by TyvolusNext


    Originally posted by Starpower

    That's just rediculous

     

    I can see why people choose to pirate games sometimes with moves like these

    stealing can rarely if ever be justified.  I mean, if you need a loaf of bread or you will starve -- sure I get that.  Stealing a video game, because you dont agree with the pricing model ?  Just dont buy the game kid...and get a real job.

    What about the government stealing from you adn giving the money to bank? Is that ok?

    Or a resturant charging you $50 for surf and turf. withholding the steak, and then trying to charge you $10 extra to include what should already be there.

     

    Which is exactly what is happening. 

     

    EA is not to be trusted.

  • bartoni33bartoni33 Member RarePosts: 2,044

    Originally posted by TyvolusNext

    Originally posted by Starpower

    That's just rediculous

     

    I can see why people choose to pirate games sometimes with moves like these

    stealing can rarely if ever be justified.  I mean, if you need a loaf of bread or you will starve -- sure I get that.  Stealing a video game, because you dont agree with the pricing model ?  Just dont buy the game kid...and get a real job.

    You are correct. Stealing is rarely justifiable.

    File sharing luckly is NOT stealing. When will people get this.

    AGAIN: FS allows the copying of data without loss of said data from the source. Loss of an item equals theft. I don't give a shit less what the law says. Their were laws to protect slavery on the books too. I would have GLADLY not have blindly followed them either. They both protected people from "losing money/property". People are NOT property. Either is data.

    Just to be clear, I am not saying that FS and slavery are anywhere near the same. Just that the laws protecting them are.

    /flamesuit on

    Bring it. I know I'm right

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  • William12William12 Member Posts: 680

    Originally posted by bartoni33

    Originally posted by TyvolusNext


    Originally posted by Starpower

    That's just rediculous

     

    I can see why people choose to pirate games sometimes with moves like these

    stealing can rarely if ever be justified.  I mean, if you need a loaf of bread or you will starve -- sure I get that.  Stealing a video game, because you dont agree with the pricing model ?  Just dont buy the game kid...and get a real job.

    You are correct. Stealing is rarely justifiable.

    File sharing luckly is NOT stealing. When will people get this.

    AGAIN: FS allows the copying of data without loss of said data from the source. Loss of an item equals theft. I don't give a shit less what the law says. Their were laws to protect slavery on the books too. I would have GLADLY not have blindly followed them either. They both protected people from "losing money/property". People are NOT property. Either is data.

    Just to be clear, I am not saying that FS and slavery are anywhere near the same. Just that the laws protecting them are.

    /flamesuit on

    Bring it. I know I'm right

     

     


    FS is stealing you're stealing an IP that feeds peoples family’s you ignore this with ignorance if we had no piracy these companies could employee more people or give people a raise the fact is FS cost people jobs and livelihood’s that is by definition stealing.  No you didn't take money from a dev but you took something of value from his employer and gave it to people for free people who might of otherwise bought the game so FS is very much stealing.  

  • TruthXHurtsTruthXHurts Member UncommonPosts: 1,555

    Originally posted by William12

    Originally posted by bartoni33


    Originally posted by TyvolusNext


    Originally posted by Starpower

    That's just rediculous

     

    I can see why people choose to pirate games sometimes with moves like these

    stealing can rarely if ever be justified.  I mean, if you need a loaf of bread or you will starve -- sure I get that.  Stealing a video game, because you dont agree with the pricing model ?  Just dont buy the game kid...and get a real job.

    You are correct. Stealing is rarely justifiable.

    File sharing luckly is NOT stealing. When will people get this.

    AGAIN: FS allows the copying of data without loss of said data from the source. Loss of an item equals theft. I don't give a shit less what the law says. Their were laws to protect slavery on the books too. I would have GLADLY not have blindly followed them either. They both protected people from "losing money/property". People are NOT property. Either is data.

    Just to be clear, I am not saying that FS and slavery are anywhere near the same. Just that the laws protecting them are.

    /flamesuit on

    Bring it. I know I'm right

     

     


    FS is stealing you're stealing an IP that feeds peoples family’s you ignore this with ignorance if we had no piracy these companies could employee more people or give people a raise the fact is FS cost people jobs and livelihood’s that is by definition stealing.  No you didn't take money from a dev but you took something of value from his employer and gave it to people for free people who might of otherwise bought the game so FS is very much stealing.  

    I'm sure the EA executives families will all wither adn die if somoene pirates a game.

    "I am not in a server with Gankers...THEY ARE IN A SERVER WITH ME!!!"

  • azmundaiazmundai Member UncommonPosts: 1,419

    the gordon gecko of gaming. i miss maxis.

    LFD tools are great for cramming people into content, but quality > quantity.
    I am, usually on the sandbox .. more "hardcore" side of things, but I also do just want to have fun. So lighten up already :)

  • SorrowSorrow Member Posts: 1,195

    Originally posted by TruthXHurts

    Originally posted by TyvolusNext


    Originally posted by Starpower

    That's just rediculous

     

    I can see why people choose to pirate games sometimes with moves like these

    stealing can rarely if ever be justified.  I mean, if you need a loaf of bread or you will starve -- sure I get that.  Stealing a video game, because you dont agree with the pricing model ?  Just dont buy the game kid...and get a real job.

    What about the government stealing from you adn giving the money to bank? Is that ok?

    or failed green energy concerns, owned by presidential friends and supporters.

    or private black op corporate armies being field tested overseas to muder, rape, and rob non combatant civilians with the eventual objective of being used against Americas own civilian population.

    or the billions disappearing into the failed private government entities of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac.

     

    It is an economic offensive at this point, but do not kid yourself this is a real war with real objectives with the bottom 90% of the population of the world as the target.

    Maybe the rich and powerful have finally realized everything is finite, and the path we are going down as a world population puts us running out of everything in our own lifetime.

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  • hfztthfztt Member RarePosts: 1,401

    The fact that I cant buy it on Steam is what is keeping me from buying this.

    Origin can die in a fire... 

    To bad. Really liked the first two.

  • bartoni33bartoni33 Member RarePosts: 2,044

    Originally posted by William12

    Originally posted by bartoni33


    Originally posted by TyvolusNext


    Originally posted by Starpower

    That's just rediculous

     

    I can see why people choose to pirate games sometimes with moves like these

    stealing can rarely if ever be justified.  I mean, if you need a loaf of bread or you will starve -- sure I get that.  Stealing a video game, because you dont agree with the pricing model ?  Just dont buy the game kid...and get a real job.

    You are correct. Stealing is rarely justifiable.

    File sharing luckly is NOT stealing. When will people get this.

    AGAIN: FS allows the copying of data without loss of said data from the source. Loss of an item equals theft. I don't give a shit less what the law says. Their were laws to protect slavery on the books too. I would have GLADLY not have blindly followed them either. They both protected people from "losing money/property". People are NOT property. Either is data.

    Just to be clear, I am not saying that FS and slavery are anywhere near the same. Just that the laws protecting them are.

    /flamesuit on

    Bring it. I know I'm right

     

     


    FS is stealing you're stealing an IP that feeds peoples family’s you ignore this with ignorance if we had no piracy these companies could employee more people or give people a raise the fact is FS cost people jobs and livelihood’s that is by definition stealing.  No you didn't take money from a dev but you took something of value from his employer and gave it to people for free people who might of otherwise bought the game so FS is very much stealing.  

    Thoughts equal property right? OK. Can't wait for the future. It's gonna be a blast.

    Also PROVE that anyone FS was/will buy said data. Please do that. Proof is kinda nessasary when debating guilt. Legally needed actually.

    So the rising gas prices that are causing people to not spend money on actual goods and services because they have to buy gas to get to work is stealing money from the G&S industry? Layoffs are rampant right now. Are the gas companies stealing from the G&S industry?

    One more thing: I didn't ask anyone to make games. I have no self-interests in how other people live their lives. They sure as hell don't care about me. If FS is "killing the industry" then leave it. Not my problem. Someone that actually LIKES to make games and not just do it to get rich (EA) will come along to replace them.

    All I'm saying is that FS does not keep the IP/dev/company from posessing anything. They still "own" that data. They can do with it what they will. Theft means that you took something away from another person and now they don't have access to it while you do. Shit will not be given what corporate laws say.

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  • William12William12 Member Posts: 680

    Originally posted by bartoni33

    Originally posted by William12


    Originally posted by bartoni33


    Originally posted by TyvolusNext


    Originally posted by Starpower

    That's just rediculous

     

    I can see why people choose to pirate games sometimes with moves like these

    stealing can rarely if ever be justified.  I mean, if you need a loaf of bread or you will starve -- sure I get that.  Stealing a video game, because you dont agree with the pricing model ?  Just dont buy the game kid...and get a real job.

    You are correct. Stealing is rarely justifiable.

    File sharing luckly is NOT stealing. When will people get this.

    AGAIN: FS allows the copying of data without loss of said data from the source. Loss of an item equals theft. I don't give a shit less what the law says. Their were laws to protect slavery on the books too. I would have GLADLY not have blindly followed them either. They both protected people from "losing money/property". People are NOT property. Either is data.

    Just to be clear, I am not saying that FS and slavery are anywhere near the same. Just that the laws protecting them are.

    /flamesuit on

    Bring it. I know I'm right

     

     


    FS is stealing you're stealing an IP that feeds peoples family’s you ignore this with ignorance if we had no piracy these companies could employee more people or give people a raise the fact is FS cost people jobs and livelihood’s that is by definition stealing.  No you didn't take money from a dev but you took something of value from his employer and gave it to people for free people who might of otherwise bought the game so FS is very much stealing.  

     Theft means that you took something away from another person and now they don't have access to it while you do. 

     

     


    Wrong theft is taking something of value from someone whether its real, virtual or spiritual does not matter you took something of VALUE without paying that is THEFT.  You can post what you believe, but what you believe is not the law and if you went in front of a jury and tried to argue this you would be found guilty.    Your ignorance is amazing, but typical for this generation.

  • TruthXHurtsTruthXHurts Member UncommonPosts: 1,555

    Originally posted by William12

    Originally posted by bartoni33


    Originally posted by William12


    Originally posted by bartoni33


    Originally posted by TyvolusNext


    Originally posted by Starpower

    That's just rediculous

     

    I can see why people choose to pirate games sometimes with moves like these

    stealing can rarely if ever be justified.  I mean, if you need a loaf of bread or you will starve -- sure I get that.  Stealing a video game, because you dont agree with the pricing model ?  Just dont buy the game kid...and get a real job.

    You are correct. Stealing is rarely justifiable.

    File sharing luckly is NOT stealing. When will people get this.

    AGAIN: FS allows the copying of data without loss of said data from the source. Loss of an item equals theft. I don't give a shit less what the law says. Their were laws to protect slavery on the books too. I would have GLADLY not have blindly followed them either. They both protected people from "losing money/property". People are NOT property. Either is data.

    Just to be clear, I am not saying that FS and slavery are anywhere near the same. Just that the laws protecting them are.

    /flamesuit on

    Bring it. I know I'm right

     

     


    FS is stealing you're stealing an IP that feeds peoples family’s you ignore this with ignorance if we had no piracy these companies could employee more people or give people a raise the fact is FS cost people jobs and livelihood’s that is by definition stealing.  No you didn't take money from a dev but you took something of value from his employer and gave it to people for free people who might of otherwise bought the game so FS is very much stealing.  

     Theft means that you took something away from another person and now they don't have access to it while you do. 

     

     


    Wrong theft is taking something of value from someone whether its real, virtual or spiritual does not matter you took something of VALUE without paying that is THEFT.  You can post what you believe, but what you believe is not the law and if you went in front of a jury and tried to argue this you would be found guilty.    Your ignorance is amazing, but typical for this generation.

    If I "took" it how is it still on their computer? Who actually ends up in court over this kind of stuff? Senior citizens who are so afraid because they have no idea what the internet even is. They settle because they thiink the big bad corporations are going ot send them to prison. I'd love for one of those RIAA lawyers to show up on my doorstep. I'd laugh and slam the door in his face.

    "I am not in a server with Gankers...THEY ARE IN A SERVER WITH ME!!!"

  • WhiteLanternWhiteLantern Member RarePosts: 3,319

    Originally posted by bartoni33

     

    One more thing: I didn't ask anyone to make games. I have no self-interests in how other people live their lives. They sure as hell don't care about me. If FS is "killing the industry" then leave it. Not my problem. Someone that actually LIKES to make games and not just do it to get rich (EA) will come along to replace them.

     

    I'm going to ignore the rest of your post because it is quite ignorant. What I do want to point out here is this ^. Are you saying you do the work you do all day long because you enjoy it and would do it for free if they stopped paying you? Or do you just think the people feeding your hobby should do so.

    I want a mmorpg where people have gone through misery, have gone through school stuff and actually have had sex even. -sagil

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