Hey remember those things called VCR's and tape decks? They used to have a record button on them. No one gave a damn about what we recorded on them. Now that it's up in the aether it's a big deal huh?
Call the RIAA and tell them to dig up my grandmother and file a suit against her for recording shows off of TV!
You can keep "taking" and not paying, maybe you will get caught maybe you will not. Hopefully you can afford a good lawyer if you do though. At the same time, I will keep paying those big corps so they can keep making crappy games that I actually might enjoy.
Hey remember those things called VCR's and tape decks? They used to have a record button on them. No one gave a damn about what we recorded on them. Now that it's up in the aether it's a big deal huh?
Call the RIAA and tell them to dig up my grandmother and file a suit against her for recording shows off of TV!
You can keep "taking" and not paying, maybe you will get caught maybe you will not. Hopefully you can afford a good lawyer if you do though. At the same time, I will keep paying those big corps so they can keep making crappy games that I actually might enjoy.
Real men take what they want.
"I am not in a server with Gankers...THEY ARE IN A SERVER WITH ME!!!"
/shrug I prefer to pirate all my singleplayer games , if i like them I buy them, if i dont I consider it a good tryout before buy and leave it at that.
While I own the ME1/2 boxes I do not trust EA/bioware to make a game worth 60+dlc's (euro) so I will at first download the game and then based on the game itself and EA's busssiness model (dlc's) make up my mind if im going to actualy pay for it.
ofc it helps that I live in a country were downloading aint Ilegal at all(yet).
I would say whit my "first" impression of EA's ethics I probaly would not buy/try the game at all if i could not test it for free first. so in my case they got a chance to make money instead of not getting it by default.
Contrary to the direction of this thread, EVERYONE here knows exactly what is wrong with stealing video games, they are just trying to justify their actions because of guilt.
My grandfather use to have an expression he lived by, " A thief, a liar, and cheater make. " He would never do business with any of them, because in his words, " A real man, a worthwhile man, is a man of character and honor. "
Sadly we now live in a society where real men, worthwhile men, men of character and honor are fewer and farther between.
The great tragedy of it is, we now live in a time where real men, men of honor and character have never been needed more.
QFT. Just because you're only making a 'copy' of the data while leaving the original in place does NOT mean you're not stealing. You're still taking something which many people worked a good, long while to produce without compensating them for it. That's theft, ladies and gentlemen.
I know, it's easy to think of every corporation as consisitng of only the 'fat cats' at the top, but do you think they're the onles hurt by your theft? No, it's the poor guy coding the damned thing, making $50K per year, working 60+ hours per week to provide for his family that's going to feel it the most. That's who you're stealing from, not the bigwigs.
Funny thing is, I'm willing to bet if one of you immature folks who justify thievery were to write a book, compose an album, or create a program and had it 'copied without consent' (stolen) and distributed freely, you'd be calling for blood, screaming, "Thief! THIEF!!" But hey, it's okay because those people never intended to buy it in the first place, right?
Seriously people, grow up. Even an admitted thief is worthy of some respect, but people who try to justify it with hollow arguments are worthy of none.
Hey remember those things called VCR's and tape decks? They used to have a record button on them. No one gave a damn about what we recorded on them. Now that it's up in the aether it's a big deal huh?
Call the RIAA and tell them to dig up my grandmother and file a suit against her for recording shows off of TV!
yeah I should feel sorry for someone who make 50k a year doing a lousy work, and still try to steal things by, hey how we can make more from it? and someone come with the briliant idea to just cut the game in parts and sell it later for more.
also take note all games I make a copy I wouldn't buy it anyway, and for sure that really saved my beacon so much crap I could just delete and never look back
/shrug I prefer to pirate all my singleplayer games , if i like them I buy them, if i dont I consider it a good tryout before buy and leave it at that.
While I own the ME1/2 boxes I do not trust EA/bioware to make a game worth 60+dlc's (euro) so I will at first download the game and then based on the game itself and EA's busssiness model (dlc's) make up my mind if im going to actualy pay for it.
ofc it helps that I live in a country were downloading aint Ilegal at all(yet).
I would say whit my "first" impression of EA's ethics I probaly would not buy/try the game at all if i could not test it for free first. so in my case they got a chance to make money instead of not getting it by default.
I'm not a prrater in the sense of the word. I have played pirated games tho, only a few. The only things I can really make out is that games need Demo's so people can try them out before buying.
Out right stealing everything in the game isn't right tho in the long run, even with the big-wig companies making cash hand over first even with pirating.
Try the Demo people, its hard to find a current gen game that doesn't come with some type of demo.. or free trial at some point. The need to pirate is becoming less important, media is floating around in cyber space on so many different platforms now. YOu can pretty much watch. any show and or movie on demand from the comfort from your computer. Without having to dl a thing, of course someone did all the dirty work for you is why.. LoL
Demo's demo's and more demo's will help to eliviate some of the pirating problems. Music is something that is harder to maintain in the bubble.. Games are way easier to get a hold of.
PM before you report at least or you could just block.
Contrary to the direction of this thread, EVERYONE here knows exactly what is wrong with stealing video games, they are just trying to justify their actions because of guilt.
My grandfather use to have an expression he lived by, " A thief, a liar, and cheater make. " He would never do business with any of them, because in his words, " A real man, a worthwhile man, is a man of character and honor. "
Sadly we now live in a society where real men, worthwhile men, men of character and honor are fewer and farther between.
The great tragedy of it is, we now live in a time where real men, men of honor and character have never been needed more.
QFT. Just because you're only making a 'copy' of the data while leaving the original in place does NOT mean you're not stealing. You're still taking something which many people worked a good, long while to produce without compensating them for it. That's theft, ladies and gentlemen.
I know, it's easy to think of every corporation as consisitng of only the 'fat cats' at the top, but do you think they're the onles hurt by your theft? No, it's the poor guy coding the damned thing, making $50K per year, working 60+ hours per week to provide for his family that's going to feel it the most. That's who you're stealing from, not the bigwigs.
Funny thing is, I'm willing to bet if one of you immature folks who justify thievery were to write a book, compose an album, or create a program and had it 'copied without consent' (stolen) and distributed freely, you'd be calling for blood, screaming, "Thief! THIEF!!" But hey, it's okay because those people never intended to buy it in the first place, right?
Seriously people, grow up. Even an admitted thief is worthy of some respect, but people who try to justify it with hollow arguments are worthy of none.
Hey remember those things called VCR's and tape decks? They used to have a record button on them. No one gave a damn about what we recorded on them. Now that it's up in the aether it's a big deal huh?
Call the RIAA and tell them to dig up my grandmother and file a suit against her for recording shows off of TV!
Wow, that's probably the most hollow agrument yet. Those shows were paid for through advertising, and freely available to anyone who had the proper receiving equipment, AKA a televison. Furthermore, you could record the shows without a problem, but you sure as hell couldn't rebroadcast or redistribute them without serious repercussions. Nice try though. No wait, it really wasn't...
I can see why people choose to pirate games sometimes with moves like these
stealing can rarely if ever be justified. I mean, if you need a loaf of bread or you will starve -- sure I get that. Stealing a video game, because you dont agree with the pricing model ? Just dont buy the game kid...and get a real job.
What about the government stealing from you adn giving the money to bank? Is that ok?
I work (ironically enough for one of the big banks), I pay taxes, I get a tax return -- what the gvt does with the tax money I pay, I cant control -- it is what it is. But, me paying taxes, not sure that is stealing (as you seem to think it is) and as I said, I get money back each year on my tax return. Also, I would have thought my original point of "stealing can rarely if ever be justified" comment would have been sufficient enough to answer your question even before your brain decided to have you type it out.
Hey remember those things called VCR's and tape decks? They used to have a record button on them. No one gave a damn about what we recorded on them. Now that it's up in the aether it's a big deal huh?
Call the RIAA and tell them to dig up my grandmother and file a suit against her for recording shows off of TV!
Considering TV shows off airwaves are paid for by the commericals and not the person viewing , your grand mother was free clear on the old style tv shows. As for Early cable with VHS etc.. Most paid for cable and recording was allowed. As for steeling cable as in hooking into the ground box or a nieghbors cable with out paying for it was illegal. Techincally you were stealing thier you where depriving the person who cable your not paying for from the DBS and causing single loss and that has value.
As for copying games, I remember being 16years old - 20 years ago with the same agruement , Then I grew up got a job and decided I like getting paid for CAD design work I do and if someone copies my drawings and builds a house , Then I lost they deprived me of income because that is my drawing my work.. But is ok because they werent going to pay me to design anyway ? They if no one pays for the design work or work that can be copied then Why would I do cad work , So in your world I should do it for free , then how do I afford my computer. paper, pencils food house family.. This I make stuff that can be copied so I don't deserve a life is total BS. You sound more like the people you claim to hate ... Interstating.
I can see why people choose to pirate games sometimes with moves like these
stealing can rarely if ever be justified. I mean, if you need a loaf of bread or you will starve -- sure I get that. Stealing a video game, because you dont agree with the pricing model ? Just dont buy the game kid...and get a real job.
You are correct. Stealing is rarely justifiable.
File sharing luckly is NOT stealing. When will people get this.
AGAIN: FS allows the copying of data without loss of said data from the source. Loss of an item equals theft. I don't give a shit less what the law says. Their were laws to protect slavery on the books too. I would have GLADLY not have blindly followed them either. They both protected people from "losing money/property". People are NOT property. Either is data.
Just to be clear, I am not saying that FS and slavery are anywhere near the same. Just that the laws protecting them are.
/flamesuit on
Bring it. I know I'm right
You can "know" you're right all you want.
You're still wrong.
See, when you say you're innocent of "theft" when you download games, you're right. The problem is, you'd still be guilty, just not of Theft.
You'd be guilty of Piracy.
Stealing a physical copy of a game from your local store is Theft.
Downloading a digital copy of said program without paying for it is Piracy.
Piracy, by definition is: The unauthorized reproduction or use of a copyrighted book, recording, television program, patented invention, trademarked product, etc.
So, at best, you're confusing one with the other. Regardless, both are illegal.
So, what you're defending and what you're actually describing are two different things.
Do people not realize how long prior to release a game must be submitted to Microsoft and Sony?
DLC is usually created during the down time after game submission but before beginning work on a new project.
However, this logic may be lost to some, so let the conspiracy theories continue!
Also, vote with your dollar - There is no point complaining about DLC...It has proven to be profitable, so why stop?
so you know you have to follow a project, and have a certain time line, right? then you know then in that project time line they made the dlc knowing it will be out on the launch day, also if they really wanted they could just say, ok guys we had some problem and we have some content you guys can download for free, just buy the game,
but no they go on they try to milk tehy game a little more because, hey its just 10 bucks and most of people say that, its just 10, then more 10 and more and more in the end its like you pay 2 full games having 1 and half
yeah the problem here is the way they do things, we know they are fooling people and most people feel for it thinking they can do wrong. yeah no one do anything wrong and we life in a world full of ponys and unicorns.
One more thing: I didn't ask anyone to make games. I have no self-interests in how other people live their lives. They sure as hell don't care about me. If FS is "killing the industry" then leave it. Not my problem. Someone that actually LIKES to make games and not just do it to get rich (EA) will come along to replace them.
I'm going to ignore the rest of your post because it is quite ignorant. What I do want to point out here is this ^. Are you saying you do the work you do all day long because you enjoy it and would do it for free if they stopped paying you? Or do you just think the people feeding your hobby should do so.
I thnk he is saying that an artist shouldn't be so concerned with money. If they love what they do the money will come. If they do art to make money then it hardly counts as art at all does it?
When they don't have bills to pay, they will be able to make arts. When there are mouths to feed at home, you go for money first.
I love how you portray the EA executives as struggling artist. these guys are fat cat execs who don't care about ANYTHING but bottom dollar. They made their money back on SWTOR. They could care less how well it does now. It has made profits, and that is all that matters.
so what if they (EA) are. dont buy/play/pirate their games then. regardless we all answer to karma in this world. so have at it kid.
Contrary to the direction of this thread, EVERYONE here knows exactly what is wrong with stealing video games, they are just trying to justify their actions because of guilt.
My grandfather use to have an expression he lived by, " A thief, a liar, and cheater make. " He would never do business with any of them, because in his words, " A real man, a worthwhile man, is a man of character and honor. "
Sadly we now live in a society where real men, worthwhile men, men of character and honor are fewer and farther between.
The great tragedy of it is, we now live in a time where real men, men of honor and character have never been needed more.
QFT. Just because you're only making a 'copy' of the data while leaving the original in place does NOT mean you're not stealing. You're still taking something which many people worked a good, long while to produce without compensating them for it. That's theft, ladies and gentlemen.
I know, it's easy to think of every corporation as consisitng of only the 'fat cats' at the top, but do you think they're the onles hurt by your theft? No, it's the poor guy coding the damned thing, making $50K per year, working 60+ hours per week to provide for his family that's going to feel it the most. That's who you're stealing from, not the bigwigs.
Funny thing is, I'm willing to bet if one of you immature folks who justify thievery were to write a book, compose an album, or create a program and had it 'copied without consent' (stolen) and distributed freely, you'd be calling for blood, screaming, "Thief! THIEF!!" But hey, it's okay because those people never intended to buy it in the first place, right?
Seriously people, grow up. Even an admitted thief is worthy of some respect, but people who try to justify it with hollow arguments are worthy of none.
Hey remember those things called VCR's and tape decks? They used to have a record button on them. No one gave a damn about what we recorded on them. Now that it's up in the aether it's a big deal huh?
Call the RIAA and tell them to dig up my grandmother and file a suit against her for recording shows off of TV!
Wow, that's probably the most hollow agrument yet. Those shows were paid for through advertising, and freely available to anyone who had the proper receiving equipment, AKA a televison. Furthermore, you could record the shows without a problem, but you sure as hell couldn't rebroadcast or redistribute them without serious repercussions. Nice try though. No wait, it really wasn't...
You could record them for your own personal use then? So you could record a song off the radioo then listen to it later? My god that is SO different than what we're talking about isn't it? You sir are a genius!
"I am not in a server with Gankers...THEY ARE IN A SERVER WITH ME!!!"
Do people not realize how long prior to release a game must be submitted to Microsoft and Sony?
DLC is usually created during the down time after game submission but before beginning work on a new project.
However, this logic may be lost to some, so let the conspiracy theories continue!
Also, vote with your dollar - There is no point complaining about DLC...It has proven to be profitable, so why stop?
Slavery and Child Labor is profitable too.
Okay, I don't like day 1 DLC either, but to equate it to slavery and child labor is just absolutely reprehensible, disgusting, and incredibly immature and underhanded. Just wow. Thank God for the block option.
Oh, and 'real men take what they want'... give me your address. I'll head over there and take all your stuff, since I'm a 'real man' and I want it, lol... talk about immature. Then again, it's not like I should've expected more out of a thief...
Hey remember those things called VCR's and tape decks? They used to have a record button on them. No one gave a damn about what we recorded on them. Now that it's up in the aether it's a big deal huh?
Call the RIAA and tell them to dig up my grandmother and file a suit against her for recording shows off of TV!
Actually, the TV industry went to congress about them when they came out. Mr. Rogers got involved in favor of VCRs.
I want a mmorpg where people have gone through misery, have gone through school stuff and actually have had sex even. -sagil
Do people not realize how long prior to release a game must be submitted to Microsoft and Sony?
DLC is usually created during the down time after game submission but before beginning work on a new project.
However, this logic may be lost to some, so let the conspiracy theories continue!
Also, vote with your dollar - There is no point complaining about DLC...It has proven to be profitable, so why stop?
Slavery and Child Labor is profitable too.
Okay, I don't like day 1 DLC either, but to equate it to slavery and child labor is just absolutely reprehensible, disgusting, and incredibly immature and underhanded. Just wow. Thank God for the block option.
Oh, and 'real men take what they want'... give me your address. I'll head over there and take all your stuff, since I'm a 'real man' and I want it, lol... talk about immature. Then again, it's not like I should've expected more out of a thief...
I'm equating the fact he said that it is profitable so it's good. Never said it was similar. As for you coming to my house and taking anything. I would give you my address but then I'd be afraid of you fapping under my windowsill.
"I am not in a server with Gankers...THEY ARE IN A SERVER WITH ME!!!"
I guess ultimately it boils down to one thing we must each ask ourselves.
Am I part of the problem, or part of the solution?
People think it's not like I am killing someone, I am just copying a video game, but it is the small things that define us, and set the path of our lives.
A video game, then maybe some cash out of the cash drawer at work, then maybe a newspaper machine thru the window of walmart during a hurricane, where does it stop? when does it stop? when you get caught, and go to prison, when your spouse, parent's or children see you for the person you really are?
Maybe when you get caught and you panic and kill someone, not because you are a horrible evil person, but simply because you are afraid, afraid of the shame, and humiliation of someone you love seeing you for who you have become?
Even God does not make a distinction, wrong is wrong...
While i do not support piracy i still find it interesting that so many diffrent companys in more areas then gaming are crying about how much money they loose, but still....they continue to make games/movies/music/whatever...isnt it strange?
I mean if i was making my living selling a product, and all of a sudden people can get it for free and wont pay me. Whould i still try to make that product or go find somthing else to do? The only reason piracy exists is because they produce material to pirate. If it is such a bad buissnes why wont they stop? it whould kill piracy intantly!
Ont: I agree that having DLC on day one is bad, think ill do what many others suggested and wait for a collectors edition in a year or so.....if it is compleate that is...
(Im sorry if my spelling or grammar is of, eng isnt my primary language)
I guess ultimately it boils down to one thing we must each ask ourselves.
Am I part of the problem, or part of the solution?
People think it's not like I am killing someone, I am just copying a video game, but it is the small things that define us, and set the path of our lives.
A video game, then maybe some cash out of the cash drawer at work, then maybe a newspaper machine thru the window of walmart during a hurricane, where does it stop? when does it stop? when you get caught, and go to prison, when your spouse, parent's or children see you for the person you really are?
Maybe when you get caught and you panic and kill someone, not because you are a horrible evil person, but simply because you are afraid, afraid of the shame, and humiliation of someone you love seeing you for who you have become?
Even God does not make a distinction, wrong is wrong...
Thou shall not kill
Thou shall not steal
It's all the same in the eyes of God
funny you say not steal and not kill, governs kill people indirect or even direct (wars) most of time, steal from the people from they own selfish greed, also killing is banal nowadays, yourself play games in the most of time consist on killing something, people can kill other people be it by death penalty, self defense, or accidents. ost of people don't care if several people in most poors countrys die for lack of food,
dude get it people are selfish, do not care about others, only care if they like someone or to look like a goody goody, or even afraid then someone will punish then (base of all religion in the world FEAR )
so yeah cry all you want, things will not change, would be nice if they could, but most of powerfull ones won't, and even more who hoped to be on the pwoerfull place won't too, hoping to take they place someday.
I guess ultimately it boils down to one thing we must each ask ourselves.
Am I part of the problem, or part of the solution?
People think it's not like I am killing someone, I am just copying a video game, but it is the small things that define us, and set the path of our lives.
A video game, then maybe some cash out of the cash drawer at work, then maybe a newspaper machine thru the window of walmart during a hurricane, where does it stop? when does it stop? when you get caught, and go to prison, when your spouse, parent's or children see you for the person you really are?
Maybe when you get caught and you panic and kill someone, not because you are a horrible evil person, but simply because you are afraid, afraid of the shame, and humiliation of someone you love seeing you for who you have become?
Even God does not make a distinction, wrong is wrong...
Thou shall not kill
Thou shall not steal
It's all the same in the eyes of God
We are all part of the problem honestly. If you go to Youtube to check out videos and listen to music and what not. Then yeah you're pirating. You can find whole albums on youtube. You can't download all of them but you can some.
That's why they want things like SOPA they say, but those types of legislations don't even cover the real damage areas. Pirates are gonna be pirates but the fashion is getting a bit tried I think. Like I said with music and videos. The artist do feel the sting of people stealing their music, but they've gotten better and releasing their shit quick and promoting themselves in the meantime to still earn their living.
It's not really something that can be done in games, excpet I guess through the subsciption model and having people continue to pay for the "same" thing. I don't think theres any divine / e.t power concered with the dribbelings of an MMO. Unless they are intrigued by them entirely, like they absolutely have no type of game on their home planet or some shit..
I don't know, I've already gone too far with this..
PM before you report at least or you could just block.
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You can keep "taking" and not paying, maybe you will get caught maybe you will not. Hopefully you can afford a good lawyer if you do though. At the same time, I will keep paying those big corps so they can keep making crappy games that I actually might enjoy.
Real men take what they want.
"I am not in a server with Gankers...THEY ARE IN A SERVER WITH ME!!!"
/shrug I prefer to pirate all my singleplayer games , if i like them I buy them, if i dont I consider it a good tryout before buy and leave it at that.
While I own the ME1/2 boxes I do not trust EA/bioware to make a game worth 60+dlc's (euro) so I will at first download the game and then based on the game itself and EA's busssiness model (dlc's) make up my mind if im going to actualy pay for it.
ofc it helps that I live in a country were downloading aint Ilegal at all(yet).
I would say whit my "first" impression of EA's ethics I probaly would not buy/try the game at all if i could not test it for free first. so in my case they got a chance to make money instead of not getting it by default.
yeah I should feel sorry for someone who make 50k a year doing a lousy work, and still try to steal things by, hey how we can make more from it? and someone come with the briliant idea to just cut the game in parts and sell it later for more.
also take note all games I make a copy I wouldn't buy it anyway, and for sure that really saved my beacon so much crap I could just delete and never look back
Do people not realize how long prior to release a game must be submitted to Microsoft and Sony?
DLC is usually created during the down time after game submission but before beginning work on a new project.
However, this logic may be lost to some, so let the conspiracy theories continue!
Also, vote with your dollar - There is no point complaining about DLC...It has proven to be profitable, so why stop?
Slavery and Child Labor is profitable too.
"I am not in a server with Gankers...THEY ARE IN A SERVER WITH ME!!!"
I'm not a prrater in the sense of the word. I have played pirated games tho, only a few. The only things I can really make out is that games need Demo's so people can try them out before buying.
Out right stealing everything in the game isn't right tho in the long run, even with the big-wig companies making cash hand over first even with pirating.
Try the Demo people, its hard to find a current gen game that doesn't come with some type of demo.. or free trial at some point. The need to pirate is becoming less important, media is floating around in cyber space on so many different platforms now. YOu can pretty much watch. any show and or movie on demand from the comfort from your computer. Without having to dl a thing, of course someone did all the dirty work for you is why.. LoL
Demo's demo's and more demo's will help to eliviate some of the pirating problems. Music is something that is harder to maintain in the bubble.. Games are way easier to get a hold of.
PM before you report at least or you could just block.
Wow, that's probably the most hollow agrument yet. Those shows were paid for through advertising, and freely available to anyone who had the proper receiving equipment, AKA a televison. Furthermore, you could record the shows without a problem, but you sure as hell couldn't rebroadcast or redistribute them without serious repercussions. Nice try though. No wait, it really wasn't...
I work (ironically enough for one of the big banks), I pay taxes, I get a tax return -- what the gvt does with the tax money I pay, I cant control -- it is what it is. But, me paying taxes, not sure that is stealing (as you seem to think it is) and as I said, I get money back each year on my tax return. Also, I would have thought my original point of "stealing can rarely if ever be justified" comment would have been sufficient enough to answer your question even before your brain decided to have you type it out.
Considering TV shows off airwaves are paid for by the commericals and not the person viewing , your grand mother was free clear on the old style tv shows. As for Early cable with VHS etc.. Most paid for cable and recording was allowed. As for steeling cable as in hooking into the ground box or a nieghbors cable with out paying for it was illegal. Techincally you were stealing thier you where depriving the person who cable your not paying for from the DBS and causing single loss and that has value.
As for copying games, I remember being 16years old - 20 years ago with the same agruement , Then I grew up got a job and decided I like getting paid for CAD design work I do and if someone copies my drawings and builds a house , Then I lost they deprived me of income because that is my drawing my work.. But is ok because they werent going to pay me to design anyway ? They if no one pays for the design work or work that can be copied then Why would I do cad work , So in your world I should do it for free , then how do I afford my computer. paper, pencils food house family.. This I make stuff that can be copied so I don't deserve a life is total BS. You sound more like the people you claim to hate ... Interstating.
I would explain how poor and logically flawed your counter argument is, but I am almost positive it would bear no fruit.
You can "know" you're right all you want.
You're still wrong.
See, when you say you're innocent of "theft" when you download games, you're right. The problem is, you'd still be guilty, just not of Theft.
You'd be guilty of Piracy.
Stealing a physical copy of a game from your local store is Theft.
Downloading a digital copy of said program without paying for it is Piracy.
Piracy, by definition is: The unauthorized reproduction or use of a copyrighted book, recording, television program, patented invention, trademarked product, etc.
So, at best, you're confusing one with the other. Regardless, both are illegal.
So, what you're defending and what you're actually describing are two different things.
That is exactly how I feel so I decided to not to respond to him anymore.
so you know you have to follow a project, and have a certain time line, right? then you know then in that project time line they made the dlc knowing it will be out on the launch day, also if they really wanted they could just say, ok guys we had some problem and we have some content you guys can download for free, just buy the game,
but no they go on they try to milk tehy game a little more because, hey its just 10 bucks and most of people say that, its just 10, then more 10 and more and more in the end its like you pay 2 full games having 1 and half
yeah the problem here is the way they do things, we know they are fooling people and most people feel for it thinking they can do wrong. yeah no one do anything wrong and we life in a world full of ponys and unicorns.
so what if they (EA) are. dont buy/play/pirate their games then. regardless we all answer to karma in this world. so have at it kid.
You could record them for your own personal use then? So you could record a song off the radioo then listen to it later? My god that is SO different than what we're talking about isn't it? You sir are a genius!
"I am not in a server with Gankers...THEY ARE IN A SERVER WITH ME!!!"
Okay, I don't like day 1 DLC either, but to equate it to slavery and child labor is just absolutely reprehensible, disgusting, and incredibly immature and underhanded. Just wow. Thank God for the block option.
Oh, and 'real men take what they want'... give me your address. I'll head over there and take all your stuff, since I'm a 'real man' and I want it, lol... talk about immature. Then again, it's not like I should've expected more out of a thief...
Actually, the TV industry went to congress about them when they came out. Mr. Rogers got involved in favor of VCRs.
I want a mmorpg where people have gone through misery, have gone through school stuff and actually have had sex even. -sagil
and the pirates win again.
I'm equating the fact he said that it is profitable so it's good. Never said it was similar. As for you coming to my house and taking anything. I would give you my address but then I'd be afraid of you fapping under my windowsill.
"I am not in a server with Gankers...THEY ARE IN A SERVER WITH ME!!!"
I guess ultimately it boils down to one thing we must each ask ourselves.
Am I part of the problem, or part of the solution?
People think it's not like I am killing someone, I am just copying a video game, but it is the small things that define us, and set the path of our lives.
A video game, then maybe some cash out of the cash drawer at work, then maybe a newspaper machine thru the window of walmart during a hurricane, where does it stop? when does it stop? when you get caught, and go to prison, when your spouse, parent's or children see you for the person you really are?
Maybe when you get caught and you panic and kill someone, not because you are a horrible evil person, but simply because you are afraid, afraid of the shame, and humiliation of someone you love seeing you for who you have become?
Even God does not make a distinction, wrong is wrong...
Thou shall not kill
Thou shall not steal
It's all the same in the eyes of God
While i do not support piracy i still find it interesting that so many diffrent companys in more areas then gaming are crying about how much money they loose, but still....they continue to make games/movies/music/whatever...isnt it strange?
I mean if i was making my living selling a product, and all of a sudden people can get it for free and wont pay me. Whould i still try to make that product or go find somthing else to do? The only reason piracy exists is because they produce material to pirate. If it is such a bad buissnes why wont they stop? it whould kill piracy intantly!
Ont: I agree that having DLC on day one is bad, think ill do what many others suggested and wait for a collectors edition in a year or so.....if it is compleate that is...
(Im sorry if my spelling or grammar is of, eng isnt my primary language)
funny you say not steal and not kill, governs kill people indirect or even direct (wars) most of time, steal from the people from they own selfish greed, also killing is banal nowadays, yourself play games in the most of time consist on killing something, people can kill other people be it by death penalty, self defense, or accidents. ost of people don't care if several people in most poors countrys die for lack of food,
dude get it people are selfish, do not care about others, only care if they like someone or to look like a goody goody, or even afraid then someone will punish then (base of all religion in the world FEAR )
so yeah cry all you want, things will not change, would be nice if they could, but most of powerfull ones won't, and even more who hoped to be on the pwoerfull place won't too, hoping to take they place someday.
No,i am very happy about it
We are all part of the problem honestly. If you go to Youtube to check out videos and listen to music and what not. Then yeah you're pirating. You can find whole albums on youtube. You can't download all of them but you can some.
That's why they want things like SOPA they say, but those types of legislations don't even cover the real damage areas. Pirates are gonna be pirates but the fashion is getting a bit tried I think. Like I said with music and videos. The artist do feel the sting of people stealing their music, but they've gotten better and releasing their shit quick and promoting themselves in the meantime to still earn their living.
It's not really something that can be done in games, excpet I guess through the subsciption model and having people continue to pay for the "same" thing. I don't think theres any divine / e.t power concered with the dribbelings of an MMO. Unless they are intrigued by them entirely, like they absolutely have no type of game on their home planet or some shit..
I don't know, I've already gone too far with this..
PM before you report at least or you could just block.