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My opinion of GW2
delete5230
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I stated this before, sorry to repeat myself. But I'm 100% convinced of this, and how marketing works.
- Nothing is free
- Cheap pays twice
In my opinion GW2 will be short on content. Way more than people think. Two weeks after release their will be expansions as a heavy cost for players to purchase.....This mmo will cost you as much anyway....Some would say that GW1 waited a year for it's first expansion, BUT this is not GW1.
ANet was much smaller then. They had no idea how much of a success their game would be, and expansions were after-thoughts. Now ANet will do the smarter marketing trick of making expansions at the same time as the original......This is why the game is taking so long....Their making everything at once.
GW2 may be good. Once you purchase the game and all it's expansions you will have it forever. BUT don't think you are getting away cheap !!!!!!!
- Sub style
- F2P style
- B2P style
It's all the same............. Don't bother sayingDANet will never pull this
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I'm sorry, that's just completely unsupported by any facts, lacks logic and seems to be based entirely on your own personal sense of pessimism.
Want to know more about GW2 and why there is so much buzz? Start here: Guild Wars 2 Mass Info for the Uninitiated
Lacks logic.....How ?
BREAKING NEWS: The game is not free, you have to pay for the box.
Also i dont think any gamer out there would be upset if they get new content every 2 weeks, much more that what you recibe by paying a sub and hoping they give you something next month.
I'll be happy to pay if I'm paying for actual content in stead of paying just to play a game I already paid for ...
Anyway, GW had a lot of content - so I do not fear a lack of content
I love it when people spout nonesense like this. There is a word for people on you on the forums.
All I can say is, give me a source or GTFO.
Except you would be paying for it...it's not like it is free.
What if I wasn't done with the previous content? Then I don't feel like buying the new content straight away.
If I run out of content, and then pay to get access to more, I would be happy.
Better than writting a blank check every month, and getting what they give me
"I am not a robot. I am a unicorn."
Typically (even in B2P land), it's looked down on to have paid for content soon after release, not sure why the case would be different here. As it usually means they held it back only to sell it later. That's how it's usually viewed anyway.
For every minute you are angry , you lose 60 seconds of happiness."-Emerson
yes, it would, I still dont see GW2 doing that tho
"I am not a robot. I am a unicorn."
I really don't either, I just thought that's what the envisioned topic was here.
For every minute you are angry , you lose 60 seconds of happiness."-Emerson
The guy who started this topic is brilliant, and has made me look at the game in ways I never have before.
I think we can all safely say that's why in the press demo, there was no sylvari or asura playable, and none of the game past level 30.
... can we say cash shop products?
If that was the case the world would def see a surge in popcorn purchases.
For every minute you are angry , you lose 60 seconds of happiness."-Emerson
But I'm 100% convinced on how trolling works.
- False information manipulation
- Doomsayers
How much WoW could a WoWhater hate, if a WoWhater could hate WoW?
As much WoW as a WoWhater would, if a WoWhater could hate WoW.
Just another troll under the bridge.
If you actually research the game, you'll see that this game looks like it will launch with more content than WoW offered at launch, not even including Competative PvP and World vs. World. Auto scaling for lower level content, while still receiving XP and Loot based on your true level, means all that content is always viable for you, you can't outlevel anything. Compare this to just about every other MMORPG ever, where anything more than maybe 3 levels lower is pointless.
The personal story is branching, which means incredible replay value. Each race has it's own set of zones for levels 1-25, after which there are two completely different zone progression routes to 80. There are 25 zones, not including the massive city zones, or WvW's four massive zones, all of which also have their own PvE content. (Press Beta reports claim the zones in GW2 are at least the size of The Barrens from Vanilla WoW). Don't forget the eight Dungeons, each with at least four seperate branches.
The nature of Dynamic Events just amplifies the bulk of the PvE content.
How can any one think this game will have very little content at launch?
Arenanet have already commited to a full time live update team that will push free additional content, while the rest of the development team works on the first full expansion. The process of tweaking and adding Dynamic Events is extremely efficient and they have already said that part of the free update process will be new Dynamic Events, many of which will rotate in and out with existing events to keep the world feeling fresh.
I'll be very surprised if a full expansion were to come out for the game more frequently than once a year. Theories that there will be paid mini-expansions so often that it will equal $15/month in subscription fees are just ludicrous.
There is the box fee, which will probably be all that a majority of people will pay until the first expansion. There will also be a cash shop that will earn healthy income from the portion of the population that find something there worth their purchase. There won't be anything there that you can't obtain in game and there will be nothing that you will have to buy in order to completely enjoy the game.
Part of what make B2P work is that when the game no longer forces it's players to measure their ongoing fandom vs. a monthly subscription fee, you keep more fans as fans, even those who find their play time wax and wane over time. The playerbase should grow steadily overtime and that more people who will likely buy an expansion and may even buy things from the cash shop. The Box price offsets the need to design an obnoxious cash shop system. No one plays for free, but for many, the box price will be all they have to pay for some time.
If this was just another stale MMORPG, we could argue over exactly how much of a benefit all that may be, but this looks like it could be one of the best MMORPGs since WoW, which, when combined with the B2P model, means huge potential financially. Shinanegans are not only unnecessary, but would be completely counter-productive.
Want to know more about GW2 and why there is so much buzz? Start here: Guild Wars 2 Mass Info for the Uninitiated
Normal MMO box price: around 50dollar
sub fee 12/15 /month.
Expansion every 6 months-12 months. 35-50 dollar.
This leaves you at 270 dollar invested if you sub for 12 months and buy 1 expansion pack.
GW2 price 60 dollars + maybe 2 expansion in 1 year around 35-50 dollar each. This leaves you at a maximum of 160 dollars in 1 year.
the op is out of context
- using a "hammer" (his personal philosophy) on the world he sees around him and making grand ASSUMPTIONS
EQ2 fan sites
I dont know where you get your facts and informations. Its sound more like pessimism and paranoia from your part. Chill man, take it easy and wait for game to come out before saying something like that.
I really feel that OP's assumption is somewhat correct. Look at the current trend with gaming in general. Bioware has done the okie doke on people with ME3 but they sold record amounts of the game anyway. Diablo 3 is going to have a real money AH and yet people are slobbering in anticipation for it. Anet is seeing all of the hype over this game and I am sure they will capitalize on it somehow. Do you really think they care for their customers more than they do the almighty dollar?!
I predict a cash shop (more than fluff items eventually) in GW2 just like all of the current free to play titles because it makes them money...why would they not do it? I would imagine they have a fortune tied up in this game and they have to get their money back somehow...
Theyve clearly stated you get the 5 races and content up to level 80 when you buy the game. Theyve stated that numerous times over the last 3 years.
We have different conceptions about wht being brilliant is.
I think they care as much. Yes, they're a business, but they're also run by gamers, not raw businessmen. They've been walking the walk and show no signs of doing otherwise.
Oderint, dum metuant.
(Psst! He was kidding!)
Oderint, dum metuant.
Got out of work 2 hours ago. im a bit slow today
The only fact in that post is abviously the OP's name...
Best MMO experiences : EQ(PvE), DAoC(PvP), WoW(total package) LOTRO (worldfeel) GW2 (Artstyle and animations and worlddesign) SWTOR (Story immersion) TSW (story) ESO (character advancement)
I can't say it won't ever happen, because I honestly thought I would never see guild wars 2 have an official forum, however, I find it highly unlikely. Guild Wars has been around since April 28, 2005 and it is still populated and no cash shop implemented. Part of the reason I believe is the infrastructure. Now, obviously I have no proof of this numberswise, but I'm going by the eye-test. Guild Wars released 3 stand-alone titles and 1 expansion pack from April 2005 to August 2007. The amount of purchases of these alone is a hefty cashload. Also, I, along with most people I know that still play, have bought cosmetic armor, more character slots, etc. Again, more income. I believe the new model is to "borrow" from Warcraft and sell cosmetic items in the cash shop, I mean seriously, everytime Blizzard unleashes a new $25 mount, there's a million of them flying around. It's bananas. B-a-n-a-n-a-s.
TLDR:: Plenty of ways you can make $$ as a developer without selling "get-aheads" in the cash shop.