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So whats actually different?
darkrain21
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So ive heard the hype. Ive seen the videos, read the blogs, perused the screenshots and studied the classes and quest system...so can someone tell me what is so diffrent from other mmo's?
I understand that they are doing away with the holy trinity with a system similure to FFXIV's weapon caste system. and they are using the event system War AOR played with. The game looks fun but it doesnt look revolutionary like ive heard people talking. Maybe im just looking at it wrong but if someone could in depth explain what GW2 is doing that is so "New" i could maybe get a bit more excited for it.
As of now TSW is the only mmo im actually looking foward to this year with its new take on building a character.
Someone please enlightin me on this supposed gift from God.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xBC_ig73aMs
Death is nothing to us, since when we are, Death has not come, and when death has come, we are not.
TSW's character system isn't new, either. Plenty of games have had skill-based advancement before.
It's all a matter of perspective.
I'm not sure anyone is claiming it will be revolutionary, per se... more that they are taking some older concepts and ideas, putting new/better twists on them, and putting them together in a new combination that hasn't been done before. It's more about a somewhat unique philosophy (in the modern genre), and the way their game design supports that philosophy.
Those statements right there reveal just how little attention you paid to any of the videos, feature lists, or documentation on what's different and better then other games. Judging by your post history defending a game like TERA i can see that you really didn't take the time to look into GW2 features especially since the game is nothing like FFXIV or WAR. Which leads me to the conclusion that this is yet another monster-under-the-bridge post rather then an honest question.
Firstly i would like to say thank you am that video was very well done it cleared up alot of hazy questions i had on the game and its mechanics. With that video I do have renewed intrest in the game and since it is only a one time fee of im guessing 50-60 bucks i will probally pick it up. Now onto the people that were jumping for my throat. This was a legit question i was not trolling now trying to start anything. I never bad mouth MMO's untill i try them but as of late i need a lot more that a few light descriptions to convince me. I will not talk negative about one till i try it. I wont even say anything bad about WOW MoP, Why? Because its not out and I havnt played it. The things ive heard are threw word of mouth and a few scattered videos around the web Am in the first comment gave me a perfect video. So before hardcore fan boys attack me for simply asking a question please note not everyone learns things as in depth as others and thats why these questions are asked.
The dumbest questions are those not asked.
As well as I have to say i also defend games when I see somthing in them. I have played Tera now and found that tho the combat is enjoyable the game offers very little in what im looking for thus i will not pick it up.
Yes im aware that TSW isnt doing something completely new they are just doing it diffrent like GW2 is doing things diffrent neather is a bad things and i believe both these games have great potential.
I think that it is a mistake to think that, just because a feature has been in an MMO, it means that the feature can't be improved, modified, or implemented in alternate ways or for alternate reasons.
Weapon skill system: actually this system isn't really in the game to remove the trinity but I suppose that it does limit what kinds of builds you can make. Restrictions like this force players to think about how they want to build their character and dramatically improve build variety. On top of that, the variety of options each class has is pretty high. The REAL reason this system is so special in GW2 is that players can switch weapons during combat to adjust to the situation as needed or to comba weapon skills off one another. There is more than one way to use each weapon.
No holy trinity: really isn't that big a deal if you played GW1, which didn't have an aggro system. It is just a step farther, allowing for more classes to fill the support role and not limiting the kinds of teams you can make by practically forcing you to use a healer and a tank to survive. This means more variety and more individual versitility, as all classes will be able to support and control.
Dynamic Events: in WAR, PQs were competitive in nature and had no lasting effect on the overall game world (major or minor). In rift, they lack actual variety (different mobs, different skin, same thing) and really only effected the world in one way (maybe it has changed, but I can't bring myself to check it out again). In GW2, they are Cooperative in nature, have a feeling of being an organic part of the world, and have major and minor effects on the zone, as well as having fairly decent variety (from what I have seen).
If you really don't see anything special about these and other features, that's not really something I can change, but I am planning on having fun playing this game, so maybe the details matter less than the overall result of how everything is put together.
The whole is greater than the sum of its parts.
I used to TL;DR, but then I took a bullet point to the footnote.
Guild Wars 2 pretty much has nothing different.
- Killin 20 mobs "dynamically" is no different from killin 20 mobs and handing it in to the npc. Same shit different toilet.
- Graphically GW2 is horrible. WoW character with Rift skill animations. are we back in 06? I might play Gw2 on my grandmother's pentium 1.
- WvWvW? why don't we call it " ZvZvZ " - Zerg vs Zergvs Zerg LOL NO THANK YOU I've had enough of this.
- Action combat? More like tab target pvp with the skills going off w/o target
- You only chose 5 skills per class? WTF is this DOTA? lol.
- no trinity system? yeah right. in guild wars 2 instead of Tank->Heal->DPS now it's Support->Control>DPS. congrats you still have a trinity you just changed the role names.
B2P game, don't expect too much endgame content from them.
If you have done all that and remain un-enligtened then it's unlikely anyone here can help. Maybe do it all again with that question in mind?
Funnily enough I did the same with TSW and had had a similar question at the end....mainly because there is so little detailed information about the game and its systems.
I appreciate everyones replys but AM actually answered all my questions with their link. I am fairly excited to try this game out now. As for Any TSW stuff they just released a bunch of info outa GDC.
Glad to help hope to see you there! I can't wait
Death is nothing to us, since when we are, Death has not come, and when death has come, we are not.
Well this was an eye opener .. -.-
If you are going to be an obnoxious troll, try putting some heart into it.
And, from my understanding, there will no longer be "Kill 20 mobs" quests. There may be quests where somewhere or someone is attacked by 20 creatures, but that's a whole different prospect.
LOL. Love the ZvZvZ comment. A game that puts out meaningful end game rvr since DAOC, and somewhat WAR and you ve had enough of this. I m guessing you like ganking lowbies instead, of co ordinated, strategic fights. Zerg warfare isn t all about higher numbers winning. If you played DAOC back in it s prime and Albs outnumbered the other 2 realms combined, you would know the Albs lost more fights then they won with that numbers greater then all mentality.
I had fun reading it
more of those pls it made me younger
Don't feed the trolls, just report them and move on.
OP, read the sticky post at the top of this forum. Watching a lot of videos without knowing what to look for isn't going to give you valid information. It helps if you already have an idea of what's going on in the game, otherwise you might actually get a lot of wrong information, since many of the press participating in the beta and making videos of it have been rather poorly informed.
Infos behinds this sticky post actually: http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/thread/287180/A-short-guide-to-everything-we-know-about-GW2-.html
It should provide everyone with lots of information that didn't got its time to check it through yet.
Exactly. What is the OP expecting. Someone to take the time to make a list for him/her to pick a part and say "FFXIV's weapon system is kinda like the weapon system in GW2, so it's not revolutionary." The OP is simply wearing blinders, if he/her supposedly watched videos & read blogs to come away thinking "this is just like every other MMORPG".
It's graphics are horrible? What would you have a fantasy world look like? Damn, i pitty you, every game must look the same on your grandma's pentium 1. The only place your allowed to play since grandma is long time deaf so you can shout bad words when you get killed by another player so very very very often.
ZvZvZ i wonder what singleplayer game are you actualy playing, must be rough being raped by a horde of bots. I bet daddy issues.
5 skills a class + each for every weapon equipped, thats - Mhand sword +3, offhand +2, Greatsword +5, bow +5, rifle +5, Mhand pistol +3, offhand pistol +2 i could go on but a smart person gets the idea. (so i guess i should go on right ..., nah i know a lost case when i read his/her shit. [ and i forgot you get 3 new weapon sets under water thats another +15 skills in total. ] Pwned right there in your face.
guess you didnt get the idea around no trinity system at all. There is still an option to be the supporting class aka healer but your not forced to have one as everyone's got their healing spell that means if your mate has to go get some sleep because he has to work in the morning you can still replace him with anyone because anyone can be the next support class. but your not dependable on it. Why do i even bother explaining it to you, your small brain cant comprehand with such amount of information, i will rather stop or i might get charged with virtual mind assault.
Great link, well composed video that actually caught the gf's attention.... pretty cool.
Highlighted what I agree with on some level. The rest is bullshit or no actual understanding of the game at all.
TSW is your game. GW2 has absolutely nothing new to offer you. Cheerio.
Can I take that to mean you won't be joining us for beta? I'm crushed. Toodles.
wow character ? you are a funny person lol the original guild wars had already destroyed WoW on its character designs
I stopped after that.
You did all that research and still can't see a difference? I will say no more. Don't want to insult your intelligence.
Have a great day.:)
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