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Exactly how are chests that can only be unlocked via buying keys in the Cash shop NOT Pay 2 win?

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  • karmathkarmath Member UncommonPosts: 904

    I think more to the point GW2 isnt P2W but its skirtling that line as close as it can.

  • HurvartHurvart Member Posts: 565

    Originally posted by DanitaKusor

    Originally posted by Tyroki

    In PVE, you can easily go back to experience lower level content, but why rush ahead? That just burns people out :

    Well normally people will rush to max level because getting there fast will give them some advantage over other players.  For example, in WoW with it's progression raiding scene getting to max level and getting into the raid level content fast will give you an advantage in your goal of finishing the content ahead of other players and proving... well I'm not sure what they are proving but it must be important.

    If GW2 has nothing at max level like this then the goal of reaching max level is less important and you can move at your own pace.

    Some will rush to max level only because they want to be first. Because they think its fun and they play all games that way. Or perhaps they are competing with friends and others that are also rushing to max level.

    There will always be some players that think and behave like that in every MMO. And also in some other genres. Everything that can help them level faster will feel like a must have/must buy.

    Sure others will think its pointless and silly. But players are different and you can play a game in more than one way. Even in ways that are not really intended or expected.

  • CallidorCallidor Member Posts: 371

    Originally posted by karmath

    I think more to the point GW2 isnt P2W but its skirtling that line as close as it can.

    I agree, I think theyre trying to have their cake and eat it too.

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  • dadante666dadante666 Member UncommonPosts: 402

    Originally posted by BilboDoggins

    I would like to see how anyone can logically come to the conclusion that chests which can only be unlocked by buying keys from the cash shop isnt Pay 2 win.

     

    Cuz i dont think anyone can and if they do claim its not Pay 2 win I think they are being willfully ignorant and/or intellectually dishonest.

     

    So lets hear it. Defend this obvious pay 2 win scam.

    First of all key or any item that is in cash shop is in game and can be obtain  say by anet

     item that dont give yoou advantage against player is not p2w ,scroll lvl up dont give you advantage  as pvp is balance and  a lvl will be match the same-it just afect pve but really not big deal  just for rush lvl up nothing more

    and all item from cash shop you cna obtain by spend Karma point in game  .

    PS: THIS THREADS ARE GETTING BORED AND KIDS NEVER LEARN  THO THEY DONT LISTEN PLEASE COMUNITIE STOP RESPOND FAIL OR POINTLESS THREADS  HOPE THIS WILL BE THE LAST MESSAGE)

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  • gothagotha Member UncommonPosts: 1,074

    Saying p2w is like saying the word grind.  Its a term that can has a very wide definition.

    Drop rate of keys,  value of rewards,  price on a vendor,  and impact on wvw are still not known.  1 beta weekend is no where near enough to see the impact.

    But it is still buying and advantage.  In my opinion this and all convience items should be dropped from the store.  Having such items creates a temptation for the developers to make the game inconvienent to sell more items.  

     

     

  • HurvartHurvart Member Posts: 565

    Originally posted by dadante666

    Originally posted by BilboDoggins

    I would like to see how anyone can logically come to the conclusion that chests which can only be unlocked by buying keys from the cash shop isnt Pay 2 win.

     

    Cuz i dont think anyone can and if they do claim its not Pay 2 win I think they are being willfully ignorant and/or intellectually dishonest.

     

    So lets hear it. Defend this obvious pay 2 win scam.

    First of all key or any item that is in cash shop is in game and can be obtain  say by anet

     item that dont give yoou advantage against player is not p2w ,scroll lvl up dont give you advantage  as pvp is balance and  a lvl will be match the same-it just afect pve but really not big deal  just for rush lvl up nothing more

    and all item from cash shop you cna obtain by spend Karma point in game  .

    PS: THIS THREADS ARE GETTING BORED AND KIDS NEVER LEARN  THO THEY DONT LISTEN PLEASE COMUNITIE STOP RESPOND FAIL OR POINTLESS THREADS  HOPE THIS WILL BE THE LAST MESSAGE)



    Any boost that helps you do things faster or in any way makes you more powerful is an advantage. If its P2W or not depends on you and on how you are playing the game. Not everyone will play the game the same way you do.

    You really cant expect others to play exactly like you. Or have the same opinion when we talk about things that are subjective. Things that depend on taste, playstyle and the players friends or guild. That depends on the different goals different people playing a MMO might have.

  • AilingforaleAilingforale Member Posts: 87

    "In my opinion this and all convience items should be dropped from the store.  Having such items creates a temptation for the developers to make the game inconvienent to sell more items.  "

    Yeh, so true...

  • runelynxrunelynx Member Posts: 2

    This thread showcases the unfortunate immaturity of some in our gaming community.

    The business model for this game is F2P; you are benefiting from millions of dollars being put in to this product after only putting in a one-time purchase of the software itself.

    If the developer wants to 'skirt the line' of how convenient the purchaseable stuff is, so what? They need to make money or the game closes down. This isn't fairyland where money grows on trees so immature gamers can feel like there's justice in their dark little worlds.

    Get a grip, it's a freaking chest and the only reason you're complaining is because a) you have a lot of time on your hands and b) the game isn't released yet. If it were released you'd be playing and probably wouldn't even notice that the guy who has $2 to spend because he has a job got a chest open and you didn't.

    There's SO much whining about item shops on F2P and yet there's also SO much whining about P2P games... I think college education and at LEAST one economics course should be mandatory for gamers these days, otherwise we just get drowned by uneducated viewpoints.

    (And, I might add, in no MMO that I have ever played - and I have played a lot - has winning depended wholely or partly on the contents of a locked chest. Guess you must be playing different MMOs...)

  • gothagotha Member UncommonPosts: 1,074

    Originally posted by runelynx

    This thread showcases the unfortunate immaturity of some in our gaming community.

    The business model for this game is F2P; you are benefiting from millions of dollars being put in to this product after only putting in a one-time purchase of the software itself.

    If the developer wants to 'skirt the line' of how convenient the purchaseable stuff is, so what? They need to make money or the game closes down. This isn't fairyland where money grows on trees so immature gamers can feel like there's justice in their dark little worlds.

    Get a grip, it's a freaking chest and the only reason you're complaining is because a) you have a lot of time on your hands and b) the game isn't released yet. If it were released you'd be playing and probably wouldn't even notice that the guy who has $2 to spend because he has a job got a chest open and you didn't.

    There's SO much whining about item shops on F2P and yet there's also SO much whining about P2P games... I think college education and at LEAST one economics course should be mandatory for gamers these days, otherwise we just get drowned by uneducated viewpoints.

    If you do not think a cash shop can be run without convient items that hurt the game why are you not supporting a subscription?

    I am sorry but the missed the part where it became good business to annoy people out of thier money?

  • dagon3dagon3 Member Posts: 117

    Heres an idea seeing how the ones defending the cash shop dont see it as any real benefit , and the rest of us dont care for it .

    Lets just banish it all together , then everyone is happy.

    Problem solved. RIGHT?

    A net will make money off the box sales and can release expansions like they did with guild wars 1 to keep the money rolling in.

    The excuse for its free after the box is bought doesnt apply anymore as an excuse for a cash shop.

    Release an expansion like they have been doing for years buy it and theres your extra income to pay for that content they made for you.

    It worked in the past before we became koreanized it can work again.

    This goes for all mmos out there , you guys defending cash shops is ridiculous, sit down in a chair take a deap breathe and actually think for once .

     

  • KakkzookaKakkzooka Member Posts: 591

    Originally posted by dagon3

    Heres an idea seeing how the ones defending the cash shop dont see it as any real benefit , and the rest of us dont care for it .

    Lets just banish it all together , then everyone is happy.

    Problem solved. RIGHT?

    A net will make money off the box sales and can release expansions like they did with guild wars 1 to keep the money rolling in.

    The excuse for its free after the box is bought doesnt apply anymore as an excuse for a cash shop.

    Release an expansion like they have been doing for years buy it and theres your extra income to pay for that content they made for you.

    It worked in the past before we became koreanized it can work again.

     

    Or you could just not use the cash shop. Then you're supporting your model and everyone else can support a company that actually appears to be making a great game.

    Re: SWTOR

    "Remember, remember - Kakk says 'December.'"

  • dagon3dagon3 Member Posts: 117

    Originally posted by Kakkzooka

    Originally posted by dagon3

    Heres an idea seeing how the ones defending the cash shop dont see it as any real benefit , and the rest of us dont care for it .

    Lets just banish it all together , then everyone is happy.

    Problem solved. RIGHT?

    A net will make money off the box sales and can release expansions like they did with guild wars 1 to keep the money rolling in.

    The excuse for its free after the box is bought doesnt apply anymore as an excuse for a cash shop.

    Release an expansion like they have been doing for years buy it and theres your extra income to pay for that content they made for you.

    It worked in the past before we became koreanized it can work again.

     

    Or you could just not use the cash shop. Then you're supporting your model and everyone else can support a company that actually appears to be making a great game.

    Or you can buy the box and you just did support the game ?

    If people dont understand that paying 60 bucks for a box is not supporting a game and we need a cash shop to keep it running , instead of just paying for an expansion , i feel bad for this genre . This free to play crap has been forced down your throats and you just live with it and actually enjoy it , What a sad sad day. Funny how they can warp your minds so easily in to believing its free lol. YOU JUST PAID 60 BUCKS if that is free then send me 60 bucks also ... thanks, what a joke...

  • KakkzookaKakkzooka Member Posts: 591

    Originally posted by dagon3

    Originally posted by Kakkzooka


    Originally posted by dagon3

    Heres an idea seeing how the ones defending the cash shop dont see it as any real benefit , and the rest of us dont care for it .

    Lets just banish it all together , then everyone is happy.

    Problem solved. RIGHT?

    A net will make money off the box sales and can release expansions like they did with guild wars 1 to keep the money rolling in.

    The excuse for its free after the box is bought doesnt apply anymore as an excuse for a cash shop.

    Release an expansion like they have been doing for years buy it and theres your extra income to pay for that content they made for you.

    It worked in the past before we became koreanized it can work again.

     

    Or you could just not use the cash shop. Then you're supporting your model and everyone else can support a company that actually appears to be making a great game.

    Or you can buy the box and you just did support the game ?

    ding ding we have a winner!

    Nice reading comprehension, Breezy! Here's a cookie.

    People that want to support ArenaNet, the company that makes the game we're talking about, will be inclined to do so because that money goes to create further content  by utilizing the cash shop. You're not being forced to do so. There's no law that you have to use it. But you can if you want to. I used the Cash Shop in GW1 to buy (what I felt were) cool skins and extra storage slots. I would have no qualms with doing so in GW2 because I know that this money goes to support ANet's staff, their design team and future content in lieu of a standardized subscription model.

    Re: SWTOR

    "Remember, remember - Kakk says 'December.'"

  • dagon3dagon3 Member Posts: 117

    Originally posted by Kakkzooka

    Originally posted by dagon3


    Originally posted by Kakkzooka


    Originally posted by dagon3

    Heres an idea seeing how the ones defending the cash shop dont see it as any real benefit , and the rest of us dont care for it .

    Lets just banish it all together , then everyone is happy.

    Problem solved. RIGHT?

    A net will make money off the box sales and can release expansions like they did with guild wars 1 to keep the money rolling in.

    The excuse for its free after the box is bought doesnt apply anymore as an excuse for a cash shop.

    Release an expansion like they have been doing for years buy it and theres your extra income to pay for that content they made for you.

    It worked in the past before we became koreanized it can work again.

     

    Or you could just not use the cash shop. Then you're supporting your model and everyone else can support a company that actually appears to be making a great game.

    Or you can buy the box and you just did support the game ?

    ding ding we have a winner!

    Nice reading comprehension, Breezy! Here's a cookie.

    People that want to support ArenaNet, the company that makes the game we're talking about, will be inclined to do so because that money goes to create further content  by utilizing the cash shop. You're not being forced to do so. There's no law that you have to use it. But you can if you want to. I used the Cash Shop in GW1 to buy (what I felt were) cool skins and extra storage slots. I would have no qualms with doing so in GW2 because I know that this money goes to support ANet's staff, their design team and future content in lieu of a standardized subscription model.

    ok awnser this , . When you buy the game does this support anet?

    Now awnser this , when new content is released and they sell it for 50 bucks , does this support anet?

    If you awnser no to any of these questions please quit posting!

    omg im pulling the plug on mmorpg , people here have no clue. brainless.

  • KakkzookaKakkzooka Member Posts: 591

    Originally posted by dagon3

    Originally posted by Kakkzooka


    Originally posted by dagon3


    Originally posted by Kakkzooka


    Originally posted by dagon3

    Heres an idea seeing how the ones defending the cash shop dont see it as any real benefit , and the rest of us dont care for it .

    Lets just banish it all together , then everyone is happy.

    Problem solved. RIGHT?

    A net will make money off the box sales and can release expansions like they did with guild wars 1 to keep the money rolling in.

    The excuse for its free after the box is bought doesnt apply anymore as an excuse for a cash shop.

    Release an expansion like they have been doing for years buy it and theres your extra income to pay for that content they made for you.

    It worked in the past before we became koreanized it can work again.

     

    Or you could just not use the cash shop. Then you're supporting your model and everyone else can support a company that actually appears to be making a great game.

    Or you can buy the box and you just did support the game ?

    ding ding we have a winner!

    Nice reading comprehension, Breezy! Here's a cookie.

    People that want to support ArenaNet, the company that makes the game we're talking about, will be inclined to do so because that money goes to create further content  by utilizing the cash shop. You're not being forced to do so. There's no law that you have to use it. But you can if you want to. I used the Cash Shop in GW1 to buy (what I felt were) cool skins and extra storage slots. I would have no qualms with doing so in GW2 because I know that this money goes to support ANet's staff, their design team and future content in lieu of a standardized subscription model.

    ok awnser this , . When you buy the game does this support anet?

    Now awnser this , when new content is released and they sell it for 50 bucks , does this support anet?

    If you awnser no to any of these questions please quit posting!

    omg im pulling the plug on mmorpg , people here have no clue. brainless.

    In converse, when you buy WoW, if you don't pay the subscription . . . does Blizzard stop your account or does it not?

    Is the sun dawning over the horizon yet? I have faith in you. You can do it.

    Re: SWTOR

    "Remember, remember - Kakk says 'December.'"

  • BloodaxesBloodaxes Member EpicPosts: 4,662

    Originally posted by dagon3

    ok awnser this , . When you buy the game does this support anet?

    Now awnser this , when new content is released and they sell it for 50 bucks , does this support anet?

    If you awnser no to any of these questions please quit posting!

    Now answer me this, if your playing an online game from a company that does good games which additionally wants to make their game buy to play to show people an online game can be done with no monthly fees wouldn't you want to support them?

    Servers cost, people that work in GW2 need money, don't tell me you think money grows on trees right?

    So instead of trying to be a "smart ass", think before you talk.


  • Arathir86Arathir86 Member UncommonPosts: 442

    Originally posted by dagon3

    Originally posted by Kakkzooka


    Originally posted by dagon3


    Originally posted by Kakkzooka


    Originally posted by dagon3

    Heres an idea seeing how the ones defending the cash shop dont see it as any real benefit , and the rest of us dont care for it .

    Lets just banish it all together , then everyone is happy.

    Problem solved. RIGHT?

    A net will make money off the box sales and can release expansions like they did with guild wars 1 to keep the money rolling in.

    The excuse for its free after the box is bought doesnt apply anymore as an excuse for a cash shop.

    Release an expansion like they have been doing for years buy it and theres your extra income to pay for that content they made for you.

    It worked in the past before we became koreanized it can work again.

     

    Or you could just not use the cash shop. Then you're supporting your model and everyone else can support a company that actually appears to be making a great game.

    Or you can buy the box and you just did support the game ?

    ding ding we have a winner!

    Nice reading comprehension, Breezy! Here's a cookie.

    People that want to support ArenaNet, the company that makes the game we're talking about, will be inclined to do so because that money goes to create further content  by utilizing the cash shop. You're not being forced to do so. There's no law that you have to use it. But you can if you want to. I used the Cash Shop in GW1 to buy (what I felt were) cool skins and extra storage slots. I would have no qualms with doing so in GW2 because I know that this money goes to support ANet's staff, their design team and future content in lieu of a standardized subscription model.

    ok awnser this , . When you buy the game does this support anet?

    Now awnser this , when new content is released and they sell it for 50 bucks , does this support anet?

    If you awnser no to any of these questions please quit posting!

    omg im pulling the plug on mmorpg , people here have no clue. brainless.

    Brainless, huh?

    Answer me this, can the box sales support 9-5 wages for 400+ people, maintain server farms, people working in tech support, the cost of producing extra expansions, legal costs for trademarks, websites and numerous other facilities while also getting a proffit to invest in better hardware and office space for the company to grow?

     

    That there is just a whisker of what goes on behind the scenes of a game, especially an MMO.

    And were the ones that are brainless...

     

    /facedesk

    "The problem with quotes from the Internet is that it's almost impossible to validate their authenticity." - Abraham Lincoln

  • dagon3dagon3 Member Posts: 117

    Originally posted by Kakkzooka

    Originally posted by dagon3


    Originally posted by Kakkzooka


    Originally posted by dagon3


    Originally posted by Kakkzooka


    Originally posted by dagon3

    Heres an idea seeing how the ones defending the cash shop dont see it as any real benefit , and the rest of us dont care for it .

    Lets just banish it all together , then everyone is happy.

    Problem solved. RIGHT?

    A net will make money off the box sales and can release expansions like they did with guild wars 1 to keep the money rolling in.

    The excuse for its free after the box is bought doesnt apply anymore as an excuse for a cash shop.

    Release an expansion like they have been doing for years buy it and theres your extra income to pay for that content they made for you.

    It worked in the past before we became koreanized it can work again.

     

    Or you could just not use the cash shop. Then you're supporting your model and everyone else can support a company that actually appears to be making a great game.

    Or you can buy the box and you just did support the game ?

    ding ding we have a winner!

    Nice reading comprehension, Breezy! Here's a cookie.

    People that want to support ArenaNet, the company that makes the game we're talking about, will be inclined to do so because that money goes to create further content  by utilizing the cash shop. You're not being forced to do so. There's no law that you have to use it. But you can if you want to. I used the Cash Shop in GW1 to buy (what I felt were) cool skins and extra storage slots. I would have no qualms with doing so in GW2 because I know that this money goes to support ANet's staff, their design team and future content in lieu of a standardized subscription model.

    ok awnser this , . When you buy the game does this support anet?

    Now awnser this , when new content is released and they sell it for 50 bucks , does this support anet?

    If you awnser no to any of these questions please quit posting!

    omg im pulling the plug on mmorpg , people here have no clue. brainless.

    In converse, when you buy WoW, if you don't pay the subscription . . . does Blizzard stop your account.

    Is the sun dawning over the horizon yet. I have faith in you. You'll get there.

      can you read ?

    Obviously not you never awnsered the questions .

    So are you telling me that if i buy a dress for you in the cash shop it supports the game , and if i buy expansions it doesnt?

    get over it man your one of the ones ruining the genre .

    go put money on your pre paid card and but that pretty pink horse and ride over that horizon , hows that sound and that 25 bucks you spend paid for a dev for an hour . woot way to go glad ya helped in the dev department. because witohut that cash shop they never would have had the money to make the game in the first place .

    well i have to go to work and make money so i can buy them cash shop items , later LOL

     

  • LeucentLeucent Member Posts: 2,371

    Lol, wow, reading through this, I have to say some people STILL don t get how GW2 works. Just don t play it, if it worries you.

  • dagon3dagon3 Member Posts: 117

    Originally posted by Kreedz

    Originally posted by dagon3


    Originally posted by Kakkzooka


    Originally posted by dagon3


    Originally posted by Kakkzooka


    Originally posted by dagon3

    Heres an idea seeing how the ones defending the cash shop dont see it as any real benefit , and the rest of us dont care for it .

    Lets just banish it all together , then everyone is happy.

    Problem solved. RIGHT?

    A net will make money off the box sales and can release expansions like they did with guild wars 1 to keep the money rolling in.

    The excuse for its free after the box is bought doesnt apply anymore as an excuse for a cash shop.

    Release an expansion like they have been doing for years buy it and theres your extra income to pay for that content they made for you.

    It worked in the past before we became koreanized it can work again.

     

    Or you could just not use the cash shop. Then you're supporting your model and everyone else can support a company that actually appears to be making a great game.

    Or you can buy the box and you just did support the game ?

    ding ding we have a winner!

    Nice reading comprehension, Breezy! Here's a cookie.

    People that want to support ArenaNet, the company that makes the game we're talking about, will be inclined to do so because that money goes to create further content  by utilizing the cash shop. You're not being forced to do so. There's no law that you have to use it. But you can if you want to. I used the Cash Shop in GW1 to buy (what I felt were) cool skins and extra storage slots. I would have no qualms with doing so in GW2 because I know that this money goes to support ANet's staff, their design team and future content in lieu of a standardized subscription model.

    ok awnser this , . When you buy the game does this support anet?

    Now awnser this , when new content is released and they sell it for 50 bucks , does this support anet?

    If you awnser no to any of these questions please quit posting!

    omg im pulling the plug on mmorpg , people here have no clue. brainless.

    Brainless, huh?

    Answer me this, can the box sales support 9-5 wages for 400+ people, maintain server farms, people working in tech support, the cost of producing extra expansions, legal costs for trademarks, websites and numerous other facilities while also getting a proffit to invest in better hardware and office space for the company to grow?

     

    That there is just a whisker of what goes on behind the scenes of a game, especially an MMO.

    And were the ones that are brainless...

     

    /facedesk

    Awnser is yes ! Wow didnt have a cash shop for years!

    /enuff said

  • LeucentLeucent Member Posts: 2,371

    Originally posted by dagon3

    Originally posted by Kakkzooka


    Originally posted by dagon3


    Originally posted by Kakkzooka


    Originally posted by dagon3


    Originally posted by Kakkzooka


    Originally posted by dagon3

    Heres an idea seeing how the ones defending the cash shop dont see it as any real benefit , and the rest of us dont care for it .

    Lets just banish it all together , then everyone is happy.

    Problem solved. RIGHT?

    A net will make money off the box sales and can release expansions like they did with guild wars 1 to keep the money rolling in.

    The excuse for its free after the box is bought doesnt apply anymore as an excuse for a cash shop.

    Release an expansion like they have been doing for years buy it and theres your extra income to pay for that content they made for you.

    It worked in the past before we became koreanized it can work again.

     

    Or you could just not use the cash shop. Then you're supporting your model and everyone else can support a company that actually appears to be making a great game.

    Or you can buy the box and you just did support the game ?

    ding ding we have a winner!

    Nice reading comprehension, Breezy! Here's a cookie.

    People that want to support ArenaNet, the company that makes the game we're talking about, will be inclined to do so because that money goes to create further content  by utilizing the cash shop. You're not being forced to do so. There's no law that you have to use it. But you can if you want to. I used the Cash Shop in GW1 to buy (what I felt were) cool skins and extra storage slots. I would have no qualms with doing so in GW2 because I know that this money goes to support ANet's staff, their design team and future content in lieu of a standardized subscription model.

    ok awnser this , . When you buy the game does this support anet?

    Now awnser this , when new content is released and they sell it for 50 bucks , does this support anet?

    If you awnser no to any of these questions please quit posting!

    omg im pulling the plug on mmorpg , people here have no clue. brainless.

    In converse, when you buy WoW, if you don't pay the subscription . . . does Blizzard stop your account.

    Is the sun dawning over the horizon yet. I have faith in you. You'll get there.

      can you read ?

    Obviously not you never awnsered the questions .

    So are you telling me that if i buy a dress for you in the cash shop it supports the game , and if i buy expansions it doesnt?

    get over it man your one of the ones ruining the genre .

    go put money on your pre paid card and but that pretty pink horse and ride over that horizon , hows that sound and that 25 bucks you spend paid for a dev for an hour . woot way to go glad ya helped in the dev department. because witohut that cash shop they never would have had the money to make the game in the first place .

    well i have to go to work and make money so i can buy them cash shop items , later LOL

     

    Sorry but you re clueless.

  • dagon3dagon3 Member Posts: 117

    Originally posted by Leucent

    Lol, wow, reading through this, I have to say some people STILL don t get how GW2 works. Just don t play it, if it worries you.

     

    Yea its gotten out of hand , i dont give a rats ass anymore .

     

  • LeucentLeucent Member Posts: 2,371

    Originally posted by dagon3

    Originally posted by Kreedz


    Originally posted by dagon3


    Originally posted by Kakkzooka


    Originally posted by dagon3


    Originally posted by Kakkzooka


    Originally posted by dagon3

    Heres an idea seeing how the ones defending the cash shop dont see it as any real benefit , and the rest of us dont care for it .

    Lets just banish it all together , then everyone is happy.

    Problem solved. RIGHT?

    A net will make money off the box sales and can release expansions like they did with guild wars 1 to keep the money rolling in.

    The excuse for its free after the box is bought doesnt apply anymore as an excuse for a cash shop.

    Release an expansion like they have been doing for years buy it and theres your extra income to pay for that content they made for you.

    It worked in the past before we became koreanized it can work again.

     

    Or you could just not use the cash shop. Then you're supporting your model and everyone else can support a company that actually appears to be making a great game.

    Or you can buy the box and you just did support the game ?

    ding ding we have a winner!

    Nice reading comprehension, Breezy! Here's a cookie.

    People that want to support ArenaNet, the company that makes the game we're talking about, will be inclined to do so because that money goes to create further content  by utilizing the cash shop. You're not being forced to do so. There's no law that you have to use it. But you can if you want to. I used the Cash Shop in GW1 to buy (what I felt were) cool skins and extra storage slots. I would have no qualms with doing so in GW2 because I know that this money goes to support ANet's staff, their design team and future content in lieu of a standardized subscription model.

    ok awnser this , . When you buy the game does this support anet?

    Now awnser this , when new content is released and they sell it for 50 bucks , does this support anet?

    If you awnser no to any of these questions please quit posting!

    omg im pulling the plug on mmorpg , people here have no clue. brainless.

    Brainless, huh?

    Answer me this, can the box sales support 9-5 wages for 400+ people, maintain server farms, people working in tech support, the cost of producing extra expansions, legal costs for trademarks, websites and numerous other facilities while also getting a proffit to invest in better hardware and office space for the company to grow?

     

    That there is just a whisker of what goes on behind the scenes of a game, especially an MMO.

    And were the ones that are brainless...

     

    /facedesk

    Awnser is yes ! Wow didnt have a cash shop for years!

    /enuff said

    Lol, they had this little thing called a monthly sub for that, wow you are clueless.

  • BloodaxesBloodaxes Member EpicPosts: 4,662

    But had a monthly fee.

    God... how can people be so brainless?


  • LeucentLeucent Member Posts: 2,371

    Originally posted by bloodaxes

    But had a monthly fee.

    God... how can people be so brainless?

    You almost have to feel bad for some people.

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