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Someone finally did it with a cash shop

wrightstufwrightstuf Member UncommonPosts: 659

A level 50 weapon is available in Aion's new cash shop

http://massively.joystiq.com/2012/04/05/aion-opens-the-blackcloud-marketplace-adds-eternal-weapon/

Is this clearly not pay to win?

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  • Loke666Loke666 Member EpicPosts: 21,441

    Well, it seems to be going that way at least. Pay2win is a bit overused right now but selling max level gear with stats in a itemshop is bad.

  • korent1991korent1991 Member UncommonPosts: 1,364

    it is... in a way... Because this isn't max lvl weapon. Max lvl is lvl 55 and this weapon isn't that good when you look at lvl 55 weapons and is a very bad investment :D

    It's a way for defining a P2W cash shop and if it continues that way it'll ruin the game completly. 

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  • ShakyMoShakyMo Member CommonPosts: 7,207
    The next thing will be cash shops for "cybers"
  • UnlightUnlight Member Posts: 2,540

    DDO has been selling weapons in it's shop for years.  There's no real difference.  Is this weapon ultra powerful or something?

  • AntariousAntarious Member UncommonPosts: 2,846

    Originally posted by ShakyMo

    The next thing will be cash shops for "cybers"

     

    LOL... they already have those ... in Second Life.

     

     

  • BloodaxesBloodaxes Member EpicPosts: 4,662

    Till there's weapons ingame with same/better stats it's not pay to win just like DDO.

     

    You might argue it's pay to win but since you can go in some dungeon for a weapon which has the same stats but looks different doesn't make the cash shop pay to win but more accesible for lazy people or casuals.


  • DakeruDakeru Member EpicPosts: 3,803

    Originally posted by Antarious

    Originally posted by ShakyMo

    The next thing will be cash shops for "cybers"

     

    LOL... they already have those ... in Second Life.

     

     

    True. I remember one of my friends worked as poledancer in a virtual club on sl.

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  • LoktofeitLoktofeit Member RarePosts: 14,247

    Originally posted by Unlight

    DDO has been selling weapons in it's shop for years.  There's no real difference.  Is this weapon ultra powerful or something?

    DDO has had +1 weapons since 2009



    EVE has had PLEX since 2008



    EQ has had Station Exchange since 2005



    Puzzle Pirates has been selling swords and ships since 2005



    Project Entropia has been selling weapons and ammo to players since at least 2004



    UO has been selling advanced characters at UOGameCodes.com since 2003

     

    In each situation players can get equal or better items just playing the game. The sword in Aion doesn't guarantee a win and is easily surpassed by other gear available in game.

     

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  • UnlightUnlight Member Posts: 2,540

    Originally posted by Loktofeit

    Originally posted by Unlight

    DDO has been selling weapons in it's shop for years.  There's no real difference.  Is this weapon ultra powerful or something?

    DDO has had +1 weapons since 2009



    EVE has had PLEX since 2008



    EQ has had Station Exchange since 2005



    Puzzle Pirates has been selling swords and ships since 2005



    Project Entropia has been selling weapons and ammo to players since at least 2004



    UO has been selling advanced characters at UOGameCodes.com since 2003

     

    In each situation players can get equal or better items just playing the game. The sword in Aion doesn't guarantee a win and is easily surpassed by other gear available in game.

     

    Yeah, pretty much my point.  What's so "win" about this particular weapon?

  • AlexlongwellAlexlongwell Member UncommonPosts: 23

    Its a lvl 50 eternal weapon, its still decent for a combine or a lvl 50 twink but the new lvl cap is 60 and there are tons of weapons in game that are better.

    Also it should be noted that this weapon was only available for a week and only if you spent 45 dollars pre ordering a large cube(it was a bonus item).

    Will it happen again? who know only time will tell.

    also you couldnt pre order anything from the store to be used on the new server as you need a char lvl 30 to apply it to, so none of these weapons will be on the new server

     

     

  • alkarionlogalkarionlog Member EpicPosts: 3,584

    Originally posted by alexl22

    Its a lvl 50 eternal weapon, its still decent for a combine or a lvl 50 twink but the new lvl cap is 60 and there are tons of weapons in game that are better.

    Also it should be noted that this weapon was only available for a week and only if you spent 45 dollars pre ordering a large cube(it was a bonus item).

    Will it happen again? who know only time will tell.

    also you couldnt pre order anything from the store to be used on the new server as you need a char lvl 30 to apply it to, so none of these weapons will be on the new server

     

     

    in 2 days you can hit lvl 30 now, and remember they do things like that just to gauge what teh player base will do, and since most people are morons they will be happy to give then money for items like this, you will see anything they will start to sell ap items and medals in they CS, really only for that tera is already winning from aion here in the west, and tera is alsmot the same then aion, just have a slower combat pace

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  • JaedorJaedor Member UncommonPosts: 1,173

    The Aion vibe when it launched was P2W, which spawned hordes of gold sellers and hackers.

     

    According to their "What is NCoin" Q&A:

    Q: Will I be able to sell or trade items that I purchase in the Black Cloud Marketplace?

    A: Most items you can purchase through the Black Cloud Marketplace can be traded between characters within your account, although all items are not tradable and some items have additional restrictions and conditions. You will also be able to trade and sell some items to characters outside of your account, although all items are not tradable and some items have additional restrictions and conditions.

     

    They've made NCoin non-tradeable so maybe the gold-sellers will despawn, but with palaces costing 1 billion to buy and 20 million for weekly maintenance I'm betting someone will figure out a way to get in-game gold.

  • AlexlongwellAlexlongwell Member UncommonPosts: 23

    Originally posted by alkarionlog

    Originally posted by alexl22

    Its a lvl 50 eternal weapon, its still decent for a combine or a lvl 50 twink but the new lvl cap is 60 and there are tons of weapons in game that are better.

    Also it should be noted that this weapon was only available for a week and only if you spent 45 dollars pre ordering a large cube(it was a bonus item).

    Will it happen again? who know only time will tell.

    also you couldnt pre order anything from the store to be used on the new server as you need a char lvl 30 to apply it to, so none of these weapons will be on the new server

     

     

    in 2 days you can hit lvl 30 now, and remember they do things like that just to gauge what teh player base will do, and since most people are morons they will be happy to give then money for items like this, you will see anything they will start to sell ap items and medals in they CS, really only for that tera is already winning from aion here in the west, and tera is alsmot the same then aion, just have a slower combat pace

    you can reach lvl 30 in 2 days if your a no lifer true, doesnt stop the fact that the event for the weapon is over and you can't get it anymore, which means there wont be any on the new server.

     

    Doom and gloom is all speculation, as i said in my first post we will see. As a majority of the player base said they would wave good bye if ap and medals were sold by CS, as alot of differenct games are coming out soon it would be stupid(though not out of the question), so take you speculation elsewhere.

     

    When or if it happens, then it might just be time to move on. the point is it hasnt yet so ill continue to play

  • Loser60Loser60 Member Posts: 170

    Adding a lvl 50 weapon to the item shop? Really? That's sad, I hoped it wouldn't take the turn for p2w. Still gonna try it out though, I doubt I will play it long enough to reach 50,

  • AlexlongwellAlexlongwell Member UncommonPosts: 23

    Originally posted by Loser60

    Adding a lvl 50 weapon to the item shop? Really? That's sad, I hoped it wouldn't take the turn for p2w. Still gonna try it out though, I doubt I will play it long enough to reach 50,

    for the last time(hopefuly) you can not buy the Taha weap in the store. It was a bonus item for pre-ordering a 45 dollar large cube, which ended when they brought the game down for patch and maint.

    http://gameguide.na.aiononline.com/aion/CUBE+Promotion+Items%3A+April+2012 a link for info on the event which is now over

    http://na.aiononline.com/store  a link to the store and what is actually being sold there....

     

  • PuremallacePuremallace Member Posts: 1,856

    It was pay to win when you could buy the item to enchant all your gear without ever hoping to fail. Put +10 stats on every piece of gear and a weapon and tell me how hard someone hits now.

  • Loser60Loser60 Member Posts: 170

    Originally posted by alexl22

    Originally posted by Loser60

    Adding a lvl 50 weapon to the item shop? Really? That's sad, I hoped it wouldn't take the turn for p2w. Still gonna try it out though, I doubt I will play it long enough to reach 50,

    for the last time(hopefuly) you can not buy the Taha weap in the store. It was a bonus item for pre-ordering a 45 dollar large cube, which ended when they brought the game down for patch and maint.

    http://gameguide.na.aiononline.com/aion/CUBE+Promotion+Items%3A+April+2012 a link for info on the event which is now over

    http://na.aiononline.com/store  a link to the store and what is actually being sold there....

     

    I see, thanks for the info.

     

    Looking forward to trying it out.

  • EvilestTwinEvilestTwin Member Posts: 286

    Max level is 60 now,, and most of the veterans used level 55 eternals even before the new patch, which were better in the first place.

  • SoulSurferSoulSurfer Member UncommonPosts: 1,024

    There will be some nasty twinks running around! XD

  • EvilestTwinEvilestTwin Member Posts: 286

    Originally posted by SoulSurfer

    There will be some nasty twinks running around! XD

    There are already tons of nasty twinks running around.   I think dredgion is pretty much camped by twinks. 

  • DJJazzyDJJazzy Member UncommonPosts: 2,053

    AoC has had max level gear with stats in their cash shop way before this. Granted the gear is pretty much crap but still, saying that Aion was the first with this is a lie.

  • L0C0ManL0C0Man Member UncommonPosts: 1,065

    Originally posted by Loktofeit

    Originally posted by Unlight

    DDO has been selling weapons in it's shop for years.  There's no real difference.  Is this weapon ultra powerful or something?

    DDO has had +1 weapons since 2009



    EVE has had PLEX since 2008



    EQ has had Station Exchange since 2005



    Puzzle Pirates has been selling swords and ships since 2005



    Project Entropia has been selling weapons and ammo to players since at least 2004



    UO has been selling advanced characters at UOGameCodes.com since 2003

     

    In each situation players can get equal or better items just playing the game. The sword in Aion doesn't guarantee a win and is easily surpassed by other gear available in game.

     

    AoC IIRC (haven't played in a while now and can't find where to get into the item shop without the game) also has several weapons and armor  with stats on them for sale on the item store since it went F2P.

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  • alexminoalexmino Member Posts: 132

    Aion was never a good game.

  • JakardJakard Member Posts: 415

    I'll say this. Aion just went F2P yesterday and they don't gimp you like most F2P do.... so from that perspective, I have no problems with them selling weapons on the cash shop.

  • JakardJakard Member Posts: 415

    Originally posted by alexmino

    Aion was never a good game.

    http://www.metacritic.com/game/pc/aion

     

    The critics disagree with you.

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