[quote] SWTOR had taken the WOW, EQ2, LOTRO route and made combat to easy or the super easy mode as it is called, one swing of my light saber took 3/4 of the life off a mob and I was not even a Jedi knight![/quote]
Well. I'm going to question the validity of this statement because it looks completely bogus to me.
If the enemy was the same level as you this would not happen, if it did it happened only in your head, so if you want to convince me otherwise I want you to video it & post it on YouTube, until you can show some kind of proof to back this claim up I'm calling it bullshit.
I have characters ranging from 30-50 on both factions & have never witnessed anything like what you describe.
Is the combat easy? Yes it is unless you haven't learnt how to play the characters.
Is the combat substantially less difficult than other games using the same design, no it isn't, it's very comparable to other games and always has been, it didn't suddenly change in the time you weren't playing, it was like this before you left.
Eve online combat is easy but you need to LEARN ALOT of things to make it easy.
Vangaurd combat is easy but you have to LEARN your class before its easy.
SWTOR is just plain easy. I just randomly did my class tree without any research and i rofl stomped everything even bosses, with the exception of the last boss fight which i died once. So from level 1-50 i had to learn A SINGLE FIGHT before i could beat it.
Unacceptable to me.
Yeah and I'm sure you have a bridge to nowhere to sell me to go along with that long line of BS you just spewed.
Me and my friends pretty much 1-shotted every instance before 50.
SWTOR has lots of problems and i always speak up about it but this is just pure nonsense.
Not for us it wasn't.
Sorry i doubt anyone is going to believe that you were one shotting every instance before 50. Don't troll us please.
Eve online combat is easy but you need to LEARN ALOT of things to make it easy.
Vangaurd combat is easy but you have to LEARN your class before its easy.
SWTOR is just plain easy. I just randomly did my class tree without any research and i rofl stomped everything even bosses, with the exception of the last boss fight which i died once. So from level 1-50 i had to learn A SINGLE FIGHT before i could beat it.
Unacceptable to me.
Yeah and I'm sure you have a bridge to nowhere to sell me to go along with that long line of BS you just spewed.
Me and my friends pretty much 1-shotted every instance before 50.
SWTOR has lots of problems and i always speak up about it but this is just pure nonsense.
Not for us it wasn't.
Sorry i doubt anyone is going to believe that you were one shotting every instance before 50. Don't troll us please.
Why do you resort to calling me a troll? The game was literally easy for us. The bosses were telegraphed in very obvious ways and we just rolled over them.
[quote] SWTOR had taken the WOW, EQ2, LOTRO route and made combat to easy or the super easy mode as it is called, one swing of my light saber took 3/4 of the life off a mob and I was not even a Jedi knight![/quote]
Well. I'm going to question the validity of this statement because it looks completely bogus to me.
If the enemy was the same level as you this would not happen, if it did it happened only in your head, so if you want to convince me otherwise I want you to video it & post it on YouTube, until you can show some kind of proof to back this claim up I'm calling it bullshit.
I have characters ranging from 30-50 on both factions & have never witnessed anything like what you describe.
Is the combat easy? Yes it is unless you haven't learnt how to play the characters.
Is the combat substantially less difficult than other games using the same design, no it isn't, it's very comparable to other games and always has been, it didn't suddenly change in the time you weren't playing, it was like this before you left.
I doubt that statement as well considering Jedi Knight is a tank class and yes you can dps but not as effective as sentinels. But even a sentinel can not reduce 3/4 of life off a mob with one swing unless it is 3 to 4 levels below.
Originally posted by colddog04
I think perhaps you jump on the "troll wagon" a little too easily.
But whatever. We crushed the instances. They were easy.
It is all in the context and how you put it. Trying to convey that instance was easy is not same as 'i one shotted the instance'. Can't blame me for jumping on the wagon.
[quote] SWTOR had taken the WOW, EQ2, LOTRO route and made combat to easy or the super easy mode as it is called, one swing of my light saber took 3/4 of the life off a mob and I was not even a Jedi knight![/quote]
Well. I'm going to question the validity of this statement because it looks completely bogus to me.
If the enemy was the same level as you this would not happen, if it did it happened only in your head, so if you want to convince me otherwise I want you to video it & post it on YouTube, until you can show some kind of proof to back this claim up I'm calling it bullshit.
I have characters ranging from 30-50 on both factions & have never witnessed anything like what you describe.
Is the combat easy? Yes it is unless you haven't learnt how to play the characters.
Is the combat substantially less difficult than other games using the same design, no it isn't, it's very comparable to other games and always has been, it didn't suddenly change in the time you weren't playing, it was like this before you left.
I doubt that statement as well considering Jedi Knight is a tank class and yes you can dps but not as effective as sentinels. But even a sentinel can not reduce 3/4 of life off a mob with one swing unless it is 3 to 4 levels below.
I have been playin TOR since December. I'm a casual player, I play as much as I can. I havevn't found the combat any difference then any other MMO I've played, except for the use of multiple mobs for most encounters as I mentioned earlier. So Yeah, one mob of three may be easier then another game where you are only fighting one mob, but this is supplemented by the fact that you're fighting three. I mean, honestly, I was playing WoW before this as a healer and litterally doing other things outside of the game while healing with my Shaman. Never once has someone in my group come close to death. So, in short, I find the combat to be harder then WoW fo sho. Can't vividly remmeber others at the moment, but I'm sure it's right on par.
All this nonsense about one-shotting shit in instances all the way to 50 is just that.... nonsense.
Sorry i doubt anyone is going to believe that you were one shotting every instance before 50. Don't troll us please.
Why do you resort to trolling. The game was literally easy for us. The bosses were telegraphed in very obvious way and we just rolled over them.
Because you are trolling? saying game is easy another thing but to exaggerate and say you one shotted every instance is pure trolling.
/claps
I think perhaps you jump on the "troll wagon" a little too easily.
But whatever. We crushed the instances. They were easy.
Have you done any of the ops? We just started a couple of weeks ago, doing kiraggas palace, and we wiped many times on the first boss till we learned the fight. And thats supposed to be EZ.
If you 1 shotted all the instances, I say what Hack are you using?
Sorry i doubt anyone is going to believe that you were one shotting every instance before 50. Don't troll us please.
Why do you resort to trolling. The game was literally easy for us. The bosses were telegraphed in very obvious way and we just rolled over them.
Because you are trolling? saying game is easy another thing but to exaggerate and say you one shotted every instance is pure trolling.
/claps
I think perhaps you jump on the "troll wagon" a little too easily.
But whatever. We crushed the instances. They were easy.
Have you done any of the ops? We just started a couple of weeks ago, doing kiraggas palace, and we wiped many times on the first boss till we learned the fight. And thats supposed to be EZ.
If you 1 shotted all the instances, I say what Hack are you using?
otherwise you are simply full of it.
No, I played the first month of the game. We would occasionally look up a fight.
Edit: There was a guy named Granpa who would occasionally look things up as we got there.
Well, we've done a lot of raiding in our day. And we were literally shocked at how easy it was.
But you can try and make SWTOR seem hard. It probably is for some people. Especially random groups with no vent.
That is great a game focused towards casuals keeping things casual. For me difficulty is just fine. I doubt you are going to GW2 which is again designed keeping casual players in mind. Infact i don't see you enjoying any new MMOS.
Well, we've done a lot of raiding in our day. And we were literally shocked at how easy it was.
But you can try and make SWTOR seem hard. It probably is for some people. Especially random groups with no vent.
That is great a game focused towards casuals keeping things casual. For me difficulty is just fine. I doubt you are going to GW2 which is again designed keeping casual players in mind. Infact i don't see you enjoying any new MMOS.
I'm playing Tribes: Ascend and a bit of Aion while I wait for GW2.
Look, it's an easy game. Particularly pre-50. It's not that crazy a notion. Especially since I played it and found out.
Well, we've done a lot of raiding in our day. And we were literally shocked at how easy it was.
But you can try and make SWTOR seem hard. It probably is for some people. Especially random groups with no vent.
That is great a game focused towards casuals keeping things casual. For me difficulty is just fine. I doubt you are going to GW2 which is again designed keeping casual players in mind. Infact i don't see you enjoying any new MMOS.
I'm playing Tribes: Ascend and a bit of Aion while I wait for GW2.
Look, it's an easy game. Particularly pre-50. It's not that crazy a notion. Especially since I played it and found out.
Maybe but your information is also quite outdated. Since new ops and FP has been added since then. Like i said games like SWTOR / GW2 / TSW etc are made keeping casuals in mind so if you keep similar attitude for upcoming games you will face similar disaapointment.
Nobody is a "big supporter" who quits a game for a month to play another game. At the very least you play both. Also the "big supporter" sounds as if he does not have any level 50s. I agree with an earlier poster - level 1 - 29 are easy levels. 30 -50 are tougher. And, if you want a real challenge, as another poster mentioned, don't use your companion.
I am no "big supporter" myselft. I enjoyed my 90 days of SWTOR but quit.
Well, we've done a lot of raiding in our day. And we were literally shocked at how easy it was.
But you can try and make SWTOR seem hard. It probably is for some people. Especially random groups with no vent.
Finding stuff easy is one thing, I find most stuff in WoW & SWTOR easy, but over-exaggerating to the point of making yourself look ridiculous in the process just to highlight how easy you thought it was is quite another is it not?
Eve online combat is easy but you need to LEARN ALOT of things to make it easy.
Vangaurd combat is easy but you have to LEARN your class before its easy.
SWTOR is just plain easy. I just randomly did my class tree without any research and i rofl stomped everything even bosses, with the exception of the last boss fight which i died once. So from level 1-50 i had to learn A SINGLE FIGHT before i could beat it.
Unacceptable to me.
Yeah and I'm sure you have a bridge to nowhere to sell me to go along with that long line of BS you just spewed.
You just scream fanboi. Dont try and pretend you are some neutral party being logical.
And anyways i was talking about the storyline missions and side missions not single handedly beating group content myslef. I thought that would go without saying...but i guess i was wrong.
Playing: PO, EVE Waiting for: WoD Favourite MMOs: VG, EVE, FE and DDO Any person who expresses rage and loathing for an MMO is preposterous. He or she is like a person who has put on full armor and attacked a hot fudge sundae.
Well, we've done a lot of raiding in our day. And we were literally shocked at how easy it was.
But you can try and make SWTOR seem hard. It probably is for some people. Especially random groups with no vent.
Finding stuff easy is one thing, I find most stuff in WoW & SWTOR easy, but over-exaggerating to the point of making yourself look ridiculous in the process just to highlight how easy you thought it was is quite another is it not?
I think it's more ridiculous to tell someone they are lying and trolling when they are actually telling the truth.
And to imply that I am trying to inflate my ego seems more like trolling to me.
Eve online combat is easy but you need to LEARN ALOT of things to make it easy.
Vangaurd combat is easy but you have to LEARN your class before its easy.
SWTOR is just plain easy. I just randomly did my class tree without any research and i rofl stomped everything even bosses, with the exception of the last boss fight which i died once. So from level 1-50 i had to learn A SINGLE FIGHT before i could beat it.
Unacceptable to me.
Yeah and I'm sure you have a bridge to nowhere to sell me to go along with that long line of BS you just spewed.
You just scream fanboi. Dont try and pretend you are some neutral party being logical.
No, I'm just someone whose played the game since launch and knows that what you wrote is an outright lie. I have my issues with the game, but I don't just make stuff up to prove a point.
And anyways i was talking about the storyline missions and side missions not single handedly beating group content myslef.
So was I. I'm curious, how did you faceroll the lightning weilding NPC in the Bonus mission on Voss? The one that no one I've met in game can beat one on one at current level and either had to bring support or out level? How did you faceroll elites without learning how to play your class? Most players avoid elites because they are the toughest one on one fights in the game. Heck , I'd just love to see a vid of you facerolling strongs without knowing how to play your class.
When you spout nonsense, don't get angry when people who actually play the game call you on it. That's not being a fanboy. That's being realistic.
You know, when one of the posters said they 'one shotted' the instance, he means they went through successfully in one try, not that they killed every mob in the instance with 1 shot, right?
I get the impression from the flames back that we are suffering from a failure to communicate.
I had the same experience, steam rollering through flashpoints and heroic quests without incident. I'm sure there are some that require planning, but not the ones I encountered.
You know, when one of the posters said they 'one shotted' the instance, he means they went through successfully in one try, not that they killed every mob in the instance with 1 shot, right?
I get the impression from the flames back that we are suffering from a failure to communicate.
I had the same experience, steam rollering through flashpoints and heroic quests without incident. I'm sure there are some that require planning, but not the ones I encountered.
That would be hilarious if that was how I was interpreted.
You know, when one of the posters said they 'one shotted' the instance, he means they went through successfully in one try, not that they killed every mob in the instance with 1 shot, right?
I get the impression from the flames back that we are suffering from a failure to communicate.
I had the same experience, steam rollering through flashpoints and heroic quests without incident. I'm sure there are some that require planning, but not the ones I encountered.
That would be hilarious if that was how I was interpreted.
Someone seems to have:
"All this nonsense about one-shotting shit in instances all the way to 50 is just that.... nonsense" when of course you didn't say you one-shotted anything IN the instance, you said you one shotted the instance.
I have always been a big supporter or swtor on these forums but now it is time to cancel and this is why.
I started out on a heavy to full server and as a casual player got my Sith character up to lvl 25, I quit for a month to play ME3 and when i came back to swtor it was a very, very light server and there was no way to transfer. OK I said let me try a bounty hunter on a very heavy server (fat man), as usual I enjoyed the quests, voice overs etc but something was wrong I could not put my finger on it, anyway I decided to play a jedi counselor in the same server and knew right away what was wrong. SWTOR had taken the WOW, EQ2, LOTRO route and made combat to easy or the super easy mode as it is called, one swing of my light saber took 3/4 of the life off a mob and I was not even a Jedi knight! Now combat in swtor has never been super hard but i did die several times especially against bosses and somewhere along the line they made it super easy and that just kills the game for me. I was able to forgive a lack luster crafting game, a play by numbers PvP , a space game that was not as good as jump to light speed as long as the combat was decent. I cant even get my 30 days free even though i started from day 1 cause i dont have a character to 50 or several characters in the 40's. So even though I am spending $15 a month EA says tough luck.
Dont get me wrong I still love the Story, voice overs, cut scenes , companions but the super easy combat has taken me out of the game. The funny thing is a game with poor quests has I think won me over, that is right Like an old Junk Yard dog with fleas that grows on you Tera has got me. I just love the combat and I play to just play the main quest line and ignore most of the side quests. I also am looking forward to Vanguard F2P and of course Guild Wars 2, but goodbye swtor , if you happen to give character transfers for free or merge let me know and I will consider rejoining if you tweak the combat a bit toward the harder side. I fell very sad, For the first time since Shadowbane I thought I found my MMO and it was not to be.
I cant call it hate.
As a huge star wars fan, SWTOR was my introduction to MMOs and PC gaming in general. Prior I was console exclusive. I loved KOTOR I and II, and while I didnt have high expectations I was excited to see how a PC game would play without a controller. I instantly got hooked on the mechanics (the hotbar, different menus with the touch of a key) I saw how more sophisticated PC games were, which to me meant more fun. The whole questing thing reminded me of my old school SNES RPGs. This was great!
I loved the stories (played Jedi), cinematics, space combat was a nice side bar. By the time I got to Nar Shadaa I started to question was this it? I began to see the game under the story. I essentially walked down corridors (or lanes if there was open space) to recieve quests and return. Fun at first but became tedious by the mid 20s. Was this what MMOs were all about? 27 days later I was done.
Still curious about this 'MMO' thing, I started downloading like crazy. EQ, EQ2, LOTRO, DDO, DCUO, COH, and countless others. Looking at EQ2 with its VAST open world, underwater exploration, and intracate crafting and housing I started to wonder why doesnt SWTOR have this? I'd be there forever if they did!
In the end, I didnt feel cheated or found SWTOR to be an EPIC FAIL. But I did find it to be too limited to satiate my wanderlust I personally look for in a game. Its sad since I love the IP, but that alone isnt enough for me to maintain a sub. To others who still enjoy, more power to you :-)
I now have my sights on GW2 which looks exceptionally promising. Ill let you know next Sunday ;-)
Another in an ever growing list of people,happy I was never interested in this or any other space MMORPG.SW:TURD must be the record holder for losing so many players in its first 3 months.
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[quote] SWTOR had taken the WOW, EQ2, LOTRO route and made combat to easy or the super easy mode as it is called, one swing of my light saber took 3/4 of the life off a mob and I was not even a Jedi knight![/quote]
Well. I'm going to question the validity of this statement because it looks completely bogus to me.
If the enemy was the same level as you this would not happen, if it did it happened only in your head, so if you want to convince me otherwise I want you to video it & post it on YouTube, until you can show some kind of proof to back this claim up I'm calling it bullshit.
I have characters ranging from 30-50 on both factions & have never witnessed anything like what you describe.
Is the combat easy? Yes it is unless you haven't learnt how to play the characters.
Is the combat substantially less difficult than other games using the same design, no it isn't, it's very comparable to other games and always has been, it didn't suddenly change in the time you weren't playing, it was like this before you left.
Sorry i doubt anyone is going to believe that you were one shotting every instance before 50. Don't troll us please.
Why do you resort to calling me a troll? The game was literally easy for us. The bosses were telegraphed in very obvious ways and we just rolled over them.
Because you are trolling? saying game is easy another thing but to exaggerate and say you one shotted every instance is pure trolling.
/claps
I think perhaps you jump on the "troll wagon" a little too easily.
But whatever. We crushed the instances. They were easy.
I doubt that statement as well considering Jedi Knight is a tank class and yes you can dps but not as effective as sentinels. But even a sentinel can not reduce 3/4 of life off a mob with one swing unless it is 3 to 4 levels below.
It is all in the context and how you put it. Trying to convey that instance was easy is not same as 'i one shotted the instance'. Can't blame me for jumping on the wagon.
I have been playin TOR since December. I'm a casual player, I play as much as I can. I havevn't found the combat any difference then any other MMO I've played, except for the use of multiple mobs for most encounters as I mentioned earlier. So Yeah, one mob of three may be easier then another game where you are only fighting one mob, but this is supplemented by the fact that you're fighting three. I mean, honestly, I was playing WoW before this as a healer and litterally doing other things outside of the game while healing with my Shaman. Never once has someone in my group come close to death. So, in short, I find the combat to be harder then WoW fo sho. Can't vividly remmeber others at the moment, but I'm sure it's right on par.
All this nonsense about one-shotting shit in instances all the way to 50 is just that.... nonsense.
Well, we've done a lot of raiding in our day. And we were literally shocked at how easy it was.
But you can try and make SWTOR seem hard. It probably is for some people. Especially random groups with no vent.
Have you done any of the ops? We just started a couple of weeks ago, doing kiraggas palace, and we wiped many times on the first boss till we learned the fight. And thats supposed to be EZ.
If you 1 shotted all the instances, I say what Hack are you using?
otherwise you are simply full of it.
No, I played the first month of the game. We would occasionally look up a fight.
Edit: There was a guy named Granpa who would occasionally look things up as we got there.
That is great a game focused towards casuals keeping things casual. For me difficulty is just fine. I doubt you are going to GW2 which is again designed keeping casual players in mind. Infact i don't see you enjoying any new MMOS.
I'm playing Tribes: Ascend and a bit of Aion while I wait for GW2.
Look, it's an easy game. Particularly pre-50. It's not that crazy a notion. Especially since I played it and found out.
Maybe but your information is also quite outdated. Since new ops and FP has been added since then. Like i said games like SWTOR / GW2 / TSW etc are made keeping casuals in mind so if you keep similar attitude for upcoming games you will face similar disaapointment.
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Nobody is a "big supporter" who quits a game for a month to play another game. At the very least you play both. Also the "big supporter" sounds as if he does not have any level 50s. I agree with an earlier poster - level 1 - 29 are easy levels. 30 -50 are tougher. And, if you want a real challenge, as another poster mentioned, don't use your companion.
I am no "big supporter" myselft. I enjoyed my 90 days of SWTOR but quit.
Finding stuff easy is one thing, I find most stuff in WoW & SWTOR easy, but over-exaggerating to the point of making yourself look ridiculous in the process just to highlight how easy you thought it was is quite another is it not?
You just scream fanboi. Dont try and pretend you are some neutral party being logical.
And anyways i was talking about the storyline missions and side missions not single handedly beating group content myslef. I thought that would go without saying...but i guess i was wrong.
Playing: PO, EVE
Waiting for: WoD
Favourite MMOs: VG, EVE, FE and DDO
Any person who expresses rage and loathing for an MMO is preposterous. He or she is like a person who has put on full armor and attacked a hot fudge sundae.
I think it's more ridiculous to tell someone they are lying and trolling when they are actually telling the truth.
And to imply that I am trying to inflate my ego seems more like trolling to me.
Currently Playing: World of Warcraft
You know, when one of the posters said they 'one shotted' the instance, he means they went through successfully in one try, not that they killed every mob in the instance with 1 shot, right?
I get the impression from the flames back that we are suffering from a failure to communicate.
I had the same experience, steam rollering through flashpoints and heroic quests without incident. I'm sure there are some that require planning, but not the ones I encountered.
That would be hilarious if that was how I was interpreted.
OP,
I hope your next game meets your needs better. Good luck!
Someone seems to have:
"All this nonsense about one-shotting shit in instances all the way to 50 is just that.... nonsense" when of course you didn't say you one-shotted anything IN the instance, you said you one shotted the instance.
I cant call it hate.
As a huge star wars fan, SWTOR was my introduction to MMOs and PC gaming in general. Prior I was console exclusive. I loved KOTOR I and II, and while I didnt have high expectations I was excited to see how a PC game would play without a controller. I instantly got hooked on the mechanics (the hotbar, different menus with the touch of a key) I saw how more sophisticated PC games were, which to me meant more fun. The whole questing thing reminded me of my old school SNES RPGs. This was great!
I loved the stories (played Jedi), cinematics, space combat was a nice side bar. By the time I got to Nar Shadaa I started to question was this it? I began to see the game under the story. I essentially walked down corridors (or lanes if there was open space) to recieve quests and return. Fun at first but became tedious by the mid 20s. Was this what MMOs were all about? 27 days later I was done.
Still curious about this 'MMO' thing, I started downloading like crazy. EQ, EQ2, LOTRO, DDO, DCUO, COH, and countless others. Looking at EQ2 with its VAST open world, underwater exploration, and intracate crafting and housing I started to wonder why doesnt SWTOR have this? I'd be there forever if they did!
In the end, I didnt feel cheated or found SWTOR to be an EPIC FAIL. But I did find it to be too limited to satiate my wanderlust I personally look for in a game. Its sad since I love the IP, but that alone isnt enough for me to maintain a sub. To others who still enjoy, more power to you :-)
I now have my sights on GW2 which looks exceptionally promising. Ill let you know next Sunday ;-)
Another in an ever growing list of people,happy I was never interested in this or any other space MMORPG.SW:TURD must be the record holder for losing so many players in its first 3 months.