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It's way to easy to get cought in fire. Especialy if you think it's not fire, but something else instead.
Let's take a closer look at some of the forrest habitants.
Fans&fanbois (they are not the same!)
Fans like the burning feeling, fanbois only think they do but as they have no idea that fire is fire and always will be, they get shocked when they realise this fire is not actualy water as they have thought.
Fans might seem a bit weird but at the end of the day they know exactly what they want and what to expect. And they don't care about rest. They know exactly where and when the fire will start and they will be first to get served.
Fanbois on the other hand run around like chickens, fighting everyone that doesn't think the same. Doing this they become food for trolls and fuel for haters.
Than there's also the fire-fighters. Bistanders who are watching this same old for yaears and years on every new big mmo and try to warn the masses of hyped fanbois blinded by the glaring flames of fire. Due to blindness, fanbois do not distinct between troll, hater, and fire-fighter. Because of this, fire-fighters often fail just to see the fanbois go down screaming in flames.
Lmfao...
Not a single decent response to the OP in this thread. Not one. Most people seem to be justifying their disgust as 'being level-headed mature individuals!'. Not realizing that there's a huge difference between being skeptical, and pissing in someone's cheerios. This thread really has done a good job of bringing some of those people out of the woodwork, though. I think this is the first time I've ever seen them even mildly defensive. Usually they're too busy coming up w/ reasons why the game will tank.
It's a new game, people are interested, I see no good reason not to let people have their fun. You aren't protecting anybody by raining on their parade. That's about as useful as a killjoy at a party. Perhaps the most hilarious thing, is I've already heard some of these 'skeptics' preparing their tinfoil hats to completely disregard any and all reviews coming out of this weekend. Because, that's how level-headed adults behave...
- Some people may be a little too excited, but honestly, who gives a crap. Let them have their fun, if they don't like it they don't like it. Many of us are legitimately excited, because we've either played, or done our research on the game and like what we see. All this nonsensical bashing under the guise of 'protection' is really getting old. These threads are in the GW2 forums for a reason, if you have no intention of playing the game, why continue to post here? honestly.
You sound affected. So right back yt you.
Just dont like to see so many people get so excited about somthing like a MMORPG and then a few weeks after release are so sad and angry that it was not what they wanted..
With GW2 player generated hype has just gone nuts LOL adn i can see it ending bad again..
I really hope its the game you have all been looking for...
Answer was in my last post. I guess it was tldr?
I agree w/ the OP, and I am looking forward to that game.
Yes it was obvious already from your previous response.
+1
Another thing, If you think, for example, MMO 1's pvp will not be as good as MMO 2's pvp, then post what you like about MMO 2's pvp that MMO 1 does not have in its pvp. Do not post why MMO 1 will fail.
I think you are just a tad senstive to anything portraying GW2 in what you perceive as a negative light.
Your post in this thread is exactly what bothers some of us about the hype. It is your zealotry and almost religous fervor that bothers some of us. In all honesty your anger and emotions show through in your entire post. It is very apparent that you have lost all objectivity at this point.
It's not nowadays... It's always been that way. How do you get attention to your product? You get people excited about it. The thing that sets GW2 hype apart from SWTOR hype, and Rift hype, and Aion hype, and Warhammer online hype is that the hype is justified. Now it may sound unrealistic or even insane to those who have either not done their research and watched the wealth of developer and community videos available or seen had a chance to play it for themselves, but everyone who has either experienced it or seen it experienced has given nothing but raving reviews. You have to hunt for legitimately bad comments towards Guild Wars 2. it's not marketing or corporate hype mongering; the game speaks for itself. Literally, anyone who has been to PAX or been in the previous betas or even watched videos of well known and (somewhat) trusted commentators (Mike
In the past you had devs at GDC and other conventions just play testing the game on a big screen for you to watch them go through a scripted part of the game. Or if that wasn't the case you had a video of them doing that on display and set to loop. Not the case with Guild Wars 2. Arenanet took a BOLD step and just said "Screw it just put the game on the table and let passer-byers play it as they see fit" and it worked out incredibly well. As far as advertising, Arenanet has done next to 0 in that regard.
Think about it. The Become a Guild Wars 2 Ambassador contest...that wasn't just a contest. That was advertising. FREE ADVERTISING. What's the best way to advertise a game? Have your unpaid dedicated fan base do it for you. Who's better to communicate the reasons to play the game to the masses than the masses themselves.
Arenanet was nothing short of genius(yes genius may be filling their heads with hot air) in their approach. Seems like once again both the market and the genre are being innovated.
The first time we saw this happen, in our time, was with (here it comes) World of Warcraft. Like it, hate it, the game innovated.
We might have scoffed at those words then, but we really cant argue them now...
MMO's are the ark of the gaming world. Let it take us in new directions.
Someone can't sleep hahaha! =P
8 Hours 13 mins to go!!!
Oh sorry what you guys talking about again?
To cope with this unpredictability some of us choose to think optimistically because it helps motivate us to try, try again.
For others a pessimistic mindset performs the same function. By thinking about what might go wrong it helps protect us against when things do go wrong.
Each provides a protective buffer against what Shakespeare called “the slings and arrows of outrageous fortune”.
http://psychcentral.com/blog/archives/2011/03/17/pessimism-vs-optimism/
Essentially, in the case of marketing, they're both defensive in nature.
Self-pity imprisons us in the walls of our own self-absorption. The whole world shrinks down to the size of our problem, and the more we dwell on it, the smaller we are and the larger the problem seems to grow.
Many of us aren't simply either optimistic or pessimistic, just as the world isn't all black or white, but full of shades of gray.
I'm dealing with this game just like with any other game, in a neutral way. It's a game of a genre I usually enjoy, so I've choosen to try it out. If it's good, I'll be pleasantly surprised, and if it's not so good, I hope I'll still get my money worth during the few months I'll play it. But I've learned long ago not to believe a game, and specially a MMORPG, will be fantastic just based on the hype surrounding it. As with many things in life, I only trust what I see myself. Remember the hype for Conan, Warhammer, and a bunch of other games that revealed to be crap? I still got my money worth out of Conan and Warhammer for the couple of months I've played, but that's it. A good MMORPG is a game you play for years, and not just 2 or 3 months.
Respect, walk
Are you talkin' to me? Are you talkin' to me?
- PANTERA at HELLFEST 2023
Because no title can live up to the unrealistic expecations that excessive hype sets up for it.
I find these days the most heavily advertised/hyped products (such as movies) rarely live up to their billing, while some lesser known titles turn out to be the real gems in the genre.
Perhaps GW2 will surprise us and finally deliver on all the promises, but I rather expect like most titles it will shine in some areas, disappoint in others and eventually, most people will move on to the next big thing in the future.
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"This is the most intelligent, well qualified and articulate response to a post I have ever seen on these forums. It's a shame most people here won't have the attention span to read past the second line." - Anon
Really? Is that slippery slope the basis of the defense?
You authoritatively state as fact what can be (at best) described as a popular speculation. World of Warcraft is essence did live up to the marketing, for instance (most people will agree, at least initially).
Self-pity imprisons us in the walls of our own self-absorption. The whole world shrinks down to the size of our problem, and the more we dwell on it, the smaller we are and the larger the problem seems to grow.
Can you prove him wrong?
Burden of proof lies on the person making the assertion.
Self-pity imprisons us in the walls of our own self-absorption. The whole world shrinks down to the size of our problem, and the more we dwell on it, the smaller we are and the larger the problem seems to grow.
He is right. Even WoW wasn't "perfect" at release - remember the huge server queues, crashes and lag? Remember the loot lag where you ended staring at your character in croutch position for several minutes? Also remember the design which makes the whole leveling available for solo/small groups/casual playing, and then suddenly the end games forces you into scheduled play time through dungeons and raids?
And I'm definitely not one of those "WoW haters", I played the game for 7+ years and don't regret a single second of it.
The bigger the hype, the bigger the difference between it and the real product.
Respect, walk
Are you talkin' to me? Are you talkin' to me?
- PANTERA at HELLFEST 2023
people are excited for the game let them enjoy it, why do you have to be such a buzz kill?
What was your aim then with the whole slippery slope thing?
Agreed. Alot of people do seem to hate simply because it is popular.
On another not I have seen a lot of people, in increasing numbers, taking the 'adult' or 'hard working adult' stance on theses posts. Or even more-so the ones that say "This game is far too hyped. some people are in for serious disappointment" - they say as if they've played the game themselves...
But back to this 'adult' thing. So let's say I were to become one of these magical beings we call 'adults' (I'm 21 years of age for those wonering). As one of these legendary deities I would see that a product is receiving a large amount of attention and would take interest in it, a slight interest ofcourse. I would then consult the almighty lord Google, son of Olaf and ask it to bring me the finest reviews in the land and the highest quality videos from the far off land of Youtubia. I would then look at the history of the company. Have they put out a title before? Was it good, not in my opinion but in the opinion of its playerbase and based off its ratings. Then I would compile and review all of the data collected and then I would [here comes the tricky part. Get out your goggles and safety scissors folks!!] formulate an opinion. After that I would place my excitement somewhere along the hype meter. Whether I be extremely over the top 'it will cure cancer' hyped or 'i'll play it if its any good' hyped I'm hyped to an extent.
And then, being one of these god-tier adults, I would find an open medium like -say- a message board. I would post my opinion about the game and wait for intelligent responses...
if only I lived on mars with these fabled 'adults'...
If you're such adults, not pointing any fingers at any given person, then formulate an opinion on your own. Look at the MOUNTAINS of data thats out there and easily accessible to you.
And dont sit there and be the clan of guys who don't like a game because everyone else likes it.
If i had to write a formula to describe this particular group it would look something like this:
'adults' ≈ hipsters;
Because it seems to me....that's what they are.
NO NO, I WILL NOT PARTICIPATE IN YOUR REINDEER GAMES! THEY'RE FAAAAR TOO MAINSTREAM FOR AN 'ADULT' OF MY STATURE AND TASTES...GOOD DAY!
MMO's are the ark of the gaming world. Let it take us in new directions.