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Nvidia's GeForce GTX 690 is $1,000.00 ?
Complete rip off seriously. There is no game on the planet that needs this much power nor will there be anytime soon. Waste of money. You wonder why alot of people prefer console gaming over pc gaming because of things like this.
Link: http://www.incgamers.com/News/31212/nvidias-latest-graphics-card-is-1000
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It is true you do not have to buy it, it is more along the lines of principal really. I know I would never buy someting that is almost the same costs of 3-4 console game systems! It is insane...
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That card is so far above what you need that only a true enthusiast / hobbyist types would even consider it. And I really dont get the console reference? Most console players have no idea what the lastest high tech PC gadgets and hardware are, nor do they care.
And if they do care and dont realize that $1k graphics cards arent the norm then everyone ( including them ) are probably better off with them sticking to a console.
Right, because when you start doing PC gaming they FORCE YOU to buy a $1,000 card. THEY FORCE YOU! That's why a lot of people hate it!!!
On a more serious note, if you think the card is a rip off then don't buy it. It is obviously not meant for you. Consider, however, that for a minority of gamers out there, their hobby not only consists of gaming, but on building incredibly high end machines. You could argue why a model builder makes model airplanes, if he'll never be able to fly them. It's making the planes what gives the person satisfaction. The same goes with these hardcore PC gamers, it's making the ultimate PC, modding it and watercooling it, which gives them satisfaction. This card is overkill for current games, same as a Ferrari is overkill for highway travel, but that doesn't mean there isn't a market for them.
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Do you think 4 of these in SLI with a 8-core processor will run Minecraft ok?
What you don't realize is that the real question is not why they cost so much, but why they cost so little. There are fixed costs to setting up an assembly line for a new card. That's it's destined to be a low volume part doesn't let you skip those fixed costs. That it requires some fancy engineering of the sort that most cards don't increases them. So you'd better have an awfully large per-unit price tag to cover those fixed costs.
That's why, while a Radeon HD 5870 was $380, putting two of them on a card in a Sapphire Radeon HD 5970 Toxic or an Asus Ares 5870 X2 meant the cards had to cost significantly over $1000. While a GeForce GTX 580 was $500, two of them on a single card in an Asus Mars II had to cost $1500. Nvidia can't keep a GeForce GTX 680 in stock at $500, but they're going to put two of them on a single card at $1000? They'll lose money on every card sold.
And they know it. Because it's a marketing expense. You can lose $1 million on selling GeForce GTX 690s, or you can spend the same $1 million running some advertisements elsewhere. Nvidia thinks that the former will be more effective than the latter for marketing purposes.
Why is that? The idea is that people will read about a GeForce GTX 690 and say, whoa, that's an awesome card. But it's too expensive, so I'll have to get something cheaper. And then they'll run to Best Buy and see a GeForce GT 520 for $100. And it's got an Nvidia logo on it, just like the GTX 690, so it must be good, right? And then they'll buy it, and Nvidia gets their money back and more that way. Which was the main point of the card. Just like it was the point of the GeForce GTX 590, the GeForce GTX 295, the GeForce 9800 GX2, the Radeon HD 6990, the Radeon HD 5970, the Radeon HD 4870 X2, the Radeon HD 3870 X2, and various older cards.
Should anyone actually get one? Dual GPU cards tend to have a variety of problems:
-runs too hot
-is really noisy
-costs way too much compared to two single GPU cards
-has to underclock the card too far
-is prone to fail
-uses lower end GPUs that don't have a point in CrossFire or SLI
There are trade-offs, so a typical dual GPU card doesn't have all of those problems, but they always have at least one of them. If you get two single GPU cards instead of one dual GPU card, you can skip all of those problems. Today, that means either two Radeon HD 7970s in CrossFire or two GeForce GTX 680s in SLI.
The non-marketing point of dual GPU cards is that there are some people for whom two Radeon HD 7970s in CrossFire or two GeForce GTX 680s in SLI just isn't good enough. So those people want four high end GPUs, not two. But for a variety of reasons, you can't really get four 7970s in quad CrossFireX or four GeForce GTX 680s in quad SLI. So instead, you get your quad GPU system via two Radeon HD 7990s or two GeForce GTX 690s.
The problem with this is, if you can run the games you want at the settings you want with two Radeon HD 7970s in CrossFire or two GeForce GTX 680s in SLI, then quad SLI doesn't have a point. So you need extremely high settings to justify the quad SLI--which should be read "extremely high monitor resolutions". Think spreading a game across three 2560x1600 monitors and you're on the right track.
And extremely high resolutions mean you need extremely large amounts of video memory. 2 GB is plenty for nearly everyone, but might not get the job done at 7680x1600. So if, whenever you find a game and settings that two 7970s or two GTX 680s can't handle, two GTX 690s can't handle them either for lack of video memory, what's the point of the GTX 690?
Nvidia could have avoided this by doubling the video memory to 4 GB per GPU. But that adds cost, and you're selling the cards at a loss, anyway. That also adds power consumption, meaning you have to underclock the cards even further, and they don't get such long performance bars in the graphs in reviews.
I somewhat expect at least one Nvidia board partner (most likely Asus, or maybe EVGA) to offer a GeForce GTX 690 with 4 GB of memory per GPU and a triple slot cooler. And then they'll also charge $1500 for the card. And that will be the card to get for the people who need the super high settings (or at least the upcoming Radeon HD 7990 with 3 GB per GPU), not the GTX 690 that Nvidia will announce shortly.
while it does cost a bundle...you are pretty much ensured that you wont have to buy a new one for 4+years maybe more on this particular card. You are also ensured extreme performance that whole time. From the looks of it, this card is quite a leap ahead of anything else.
Nvidia needs to build a laptop base with one of these monsters in it ( with its own power supply) and get someone to put pcie 3.0 ports in thre bottom of laptops so you can plug the laptop into the monster for extreme performance.
The 680 has a fair price point
But economically I reckon your better going 1 lower the 6870 takes the pixels per buck crown at the high end for me, good bit cheaper than a 580gtx for dame dx10/dx11 performance and only marginally slower for dx9 (and high end cards have no hassle with dx9 anyway)
It's not really a rip off. They told people that its only aimed at the enthusiast market. Also, It uses better materials for cooling and it's almost identical to the same performance of 2x Geforce Gtx 680, which goes for $499.99 each. So, in the end you get the same power as 2x Geforce GTX 680s and a better cooling solution for the same price as 2x Geforce GTX 680s. I myself will be getting 2 of these bad boys
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Actually, no. You'd get much better cooling on two GeForce GTX 680s than a single GeForce GTX 690. Being able to spread the head across two separate cards each of which has a two slot cooler means its a lot easier to keep things cool than when you have to cram it all into a single two slot cooler. That also avoids the awkward situation of having the cards need to kick a bunch of heat toward the front of the case and conflict with the usual case setup of a front fan blowing air into the case.
If you want Quad SLI, then yeah, you get two GTX 690s, but only because you might not be able to get four GTX 680s and have everything work properly. Though I'd question what you'd need quad SLI for, but still have 2 GB of video memory per card be plenty.
Really, though, let's wait until we see the reviews before saying exactly how good the cooling solution is. We're only a generation away from the GeForce GTX 590's vaunted cooling solution that wasn't even sufficient to let cards survive the review process. Kepler isn't the power hog that Fermi was, so making the GTX 690 into a nice card shouldn't be the intractible problem that Nvidia engineers faced with the GTX 590. But then, putting a proper cooler on the GeForce FX 5800 shouldn't have been an intractible problem, either.
I currently have 2x Radeon HD 6970s and my current rig and a single Radeon HD 6990 on the system I built for my sister (everything else is similar), but the overall temps inside my rig was much hotter with the 2x Radeon 6970s than my sisters system.
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If you mean ambient temperature inside the case, then that's a problem of general case airflow. And that's an easy problem to solve: get a case with a bunch of fans. The trouble with a 6990 is that you're not going to be able to cool it all that well no matter what case you have.
It isn't a rip-off at all; it's just tailored to a specific audience. For example, those who play games on 3+ high-resolution monitors will get a lot out of this card.
Also, those who were thinking of getting a GTX 680 and potentially adding another one down the road when it starts to age might consider just getting this now, which will save them some money and last them for years (barring some insane advances in graphics processing hardware).
NVIDIA Prepares Two More GK104-based cards - GeForce GTX 660 Ti and 670
Read more: http://vr-zone.com/articles/nvidia-prepares-two-more-gk104-based-cards--geforce-gtx-660-ti-and-670/15728.html#ixzz1tlpwJyKX
Products are expected to be formally announced next week, with mass availability and custom designs by Computex Taipei 2012, which is scheduled to take place between June 5-9 at World Trade Center and Nangang Exhibition Hall in Taipei, Taiwan.
"Really high end cards should cost 300, because the end result desktop will still cost over 800. Why bother buying all the ram, processor, and overpriced card instead of a console. The reasons decrease every year."
GFX cards parable with console performance actually cost less than $100 already - your $300 will buy you a card that outperforms a consoles graphics potential by 3 or 4 times. You need to realise that the next gen of consoles will not even be able to do half of what this card can do. A console will only ever power a single display at 1080p. This thing will do 3 monitors at double that without breaking sweat.
Horse for courses mate.
Why buy a 5 bedroom house with a huge garden when a 1 bedroom place with a yard will do?
Why buy a Ferrari when a Focus does the same thing?
Why have a 55" LED 3D TV when a 15" CRT does the same thing?
Answer those questions and thats why people buy graphics cards for $1000
That´'s alot of examples, but they aren't very accurate. Reason being, that a GPU at half the cost willl turn out to deliver the same performance when put into realistic settings. All you examples demonstrate a wast difference, but in the case at hand, there are no real differences.
Why buy a 5 bedroom house for 3 million dollars, when a 4 bedroom house for 1 million $ will have a huge garden and a yard as well.
Why buy a ferrari for 1 million dollars when a porsce 911 for 500.000 will do the same.
Why buy a 55" LED 3D TV for 10.000$, when you can get a 54" LED 3D TV for 4000$
If you use a 2560x1440 monitor the GTX 690 will actually be a good choice. Try Bf3 @2560x1440 and all settings max quality.