Seems like the Intel i5 handles the game great. I heard bad performance on i7's and older Quad2Core's.
If this chart is correct it's great but i don't think so, it doesn't take your CPU into consideration. In any case i will wait until release to see if i have to upgrade my computer.
I have a Quad2core 2,32 ghz with GTX 460 and WvWvW was a slideshow on everything turned off and on lowest setting.
Seems like the Intel i5 handles the game great. I heard bad performance on i7's and older Quad2Core's.
If this chart is correct it's great but i don't think so, it doesn't take your CPU into consideration. In any case i will wait until release to see if i have to upgrade my computer.
I have a Quad2core 2,32 ghz with GTX 460 and WvWvW was a slideshow on everything turned off and on lowest setting.
There is a lot of difference between an overclocked i5 2500K and other i5's. Its probably the fastest gaming processor available. while the other i5's fall back behind the SB and IB i7's.
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Seems like the Intel i5 handles the game great. I heard bad performance on i7's and older Quad2Core's.
If this chart is correct it's great but i don't think so, it doesn't take your CPU into consideration. In any case i will wait until release to see if i have to upgrade my computer.
I have a Quad2core 2,32 ghz with GTX 460 and WvWvW was a slideshow on everything turned off and on lowest setting.
There is a lot of difference between an overclocked i5 2500K and other i5's. Its probably the fastest gaming processor available. while the other i5's fall back behind the SB and IB i7's.
Aye i meant the 2500K. Played with 2 friends that had that processor, they were getting 60-80 FPS everywhere.
Seems like the Intel i5 handles the game great. I heard bad performance on i7's and older Quad2Core's.
If this chart is correct it's great but i don't think so, it doesn't take your CPU into consideration. In any case i will wait until release to see if i have to upgrade my computer.
I have a Quad2core 2,32 ghz with GTX 460 and WvWvW was a slideshow on everything turned off and on lowest setting.
There is a lot of difference between an overclocked i5 2500K and other i5's. Its probably the fastest gaming processor available. while the other i5's fall back behind the SB and IB i7's.
Aye i meant the 2500K. Played with 2 friends that had that processor, they were getting 60-80 FPS everywhere.
Seems like the Intel i5 handles the game great. I heard bad performance on i7's and older Quad2Core's.
If this chart is correct it's great but i don't think so, it doesn't take your CPU into consideration. In any case i will wait until release to see if i have to upgrade my computer.
I have a Quad2core 2,32 ghz with GTX 460 and WvWvW was a slideshow on everything turned off and on lowest setting.
There is a lot of difference between an overclocked i5 2500K and other i5's. Its probably the fastest gaming processor available. while the other i5's fall back behind the SB and IB i7's.
Aye i meant the 2500K. Played with 2 friends that had that processor, they were getting 60-80 FPS everywhere.
Seems like the Intel i5 handles the game great. I heard bad performance on i7's and older Quad2Core's.
If this chart is correct it's great but i don't think so, it doesn't take your CPU into consideration. In any case i will wait until release to see if i have to upgrade my computer.
I have a Quad2core 2,32 ghz with GTX 460 and WvWvW was a slideshow on everything turned off and on lowest setting.
There is a lot of difference between an overclocked i5 2500K and other i5's. Its probably the fastest gaming processor available. while the other i5's fall back behind the SB and IB i7's.
Aye i meant the 2500K. Played with 2 friends that had that processor, they were getting 60-80 FPS everywhere.
No they weren't.
They were, zero lag.
Proof? Why is it that every person here happen to have had 80 fps but are too computer illiterate to run MSI AB or any similar program to help them actually back up what they say instead of just making numbers up. The only place they might have got that fps were in spvp.
Pretty useless without also specifying a CPU if you ask me...
CPU only matters if it's the bottleneck. The chart would likely be useful for the majority of people meeting the minimum recommended CPU specs. There also has been a lot less of a per core performance increase for CPUs over the last four years than there has been for GPUs.
It's a rule of thumb chart, mileage will vary and client optimization could move performance estimates up or down a bit.
Pretty useless without also specifying a CPU if you ask me...
CPU only matters if it's the bottleneck. The chart would likely be useful for the majority of people meeting the minimum recommended CPU specs. There also has been a lot less of a per core performance increase for CPUs over the last four years than there has been for GPUs.
It's a rule of thumb chart, mileage will vary and client optimization could move performance estimates up or down a bit.
Hum, sorry, but pretending the CPU doesn't matter, specially in a game with a client as complex as a MMORPG, is nonsense...
Would you tell me "to decode a Blu-Ray, CPU doesn't matter", I'd agree (sort of), since when you read a Blu-Ray, the CPU activity monitor barely moves since all the job is done by the graphic card.
But for a game? Sorry, but you are wrong. CPU does matter.
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Hmm didn't expect my card to be in the ultra category. If it's somewhat accurate that would mean I should be able to play on High with no problem as long as CPU and RAM are up to it.
Originally posted by eAzydamanSeems like the Intel i5 handles the game great. I heard bad performance on i7's and older Quad2Core's. If this chart is correct it's great but i don't think so, it doesn't take your CPU into consideration. In any case i will wait until release to see if i have to upgrade my computer.I have a Quad2core 2,32 ghz with GTX 460 and WvWvW was a slideshow on everything turned off and on lowest setting.
There is a lot of difference between an overclocked i5 2500K and other i5's. Its probably the fastest gaming processor available. while the other i5's fall back behind the SB and IB i7's.
Aye i meant the 2500K. Played with 2 friends that had that processor, they were getting 60-80 FPS everywhere.
No they weren't.
They were, zero lag.
Proof? Why is it that every person here happen to have had 80 fps but are too computer illiterate to run MSI AB or any similar program to help them actually back up what they say instead of just making numbers up. The only place they might have got that fps were in spvp.
Because people that can run a fps meter are more literate? Well let me tell you they are not, in fact they are super illiterate too when it come to this, since they are most likely nerds unable to read this number properly and make a wise judgment over it. Since for most people the more you have fps the smoother your game will be which is obviously false in a real situation, that is.
And please check how much hardware and software actually enable frame per second, and you will learn that only a low % of games in history and hardware ever let you have 30+ fps, let alone 60+... And also read the article i linked in detail, so you will understand why a 10k $ computer can give the optical perception of lag and a candy pink laptop can reduce that effect. What is important is not how much fps you can reach, but how regularly they draw, and how good they are at showing key points of an animation. If you show a 1sec animation and have 5k frames the first 0.1 sec and nothing further your animation won't worth crap, even with a 5k fps, a 12 fps properly drawn will actually be way better for anyone eyes in this case. In fact very high fps is detrimental to a fluent perception if any "lag" exist, that's quiet amazing is it? And without lag a very low fps (by the nerd standards) will be more than enough for a very good perception. That is probably why some 10k $ comp are actually looking like having lesser performance than some candy pink laptop, not to talk about all the driver and compatibility issues, and that is actually why most software and hardware lock on the fps.
Make sure you read the gaming fps section, but you really should read it all:
Pretty useless without also specifying a CPU if you ask me...
CPU only matters if it's the bottleneck. The chart would likely be useful for the majority of people meeting the minimum recommended CPU specs. There also has been a lot less of a per core performance increase for CPUs over the last four years than there has been for GPUs.
It's a rule of thumb chart, mileage will vary and client optimization could move performance estimates up or down a bit.
Hum, sorry, but pretending the CPU doesn't matter, specially in a game with a client as complex as a MMORPG, is nonsense...
Would you tell me "to decode a Blu-Ray, CPU doesn't matter", I'd agree (sort of), since when you read a Blu-Ray, the CPU activity monitor barely moves since all the job is done by the graphic card.
But for a game? Sorry, but you are wrong. CPU does matter.
I didn't say it doesn't matter. I said it doesn't matter unless it's the bottleneck. I also clarified that there isn't nearly as wide a difference in per core CPU performance levels for CPUs sold in recent years as there is between GPUs sold in that same period of time.
You are welcome to produce a chart showing exactly how much various CPUs may effect your framerates when combined with each tier of GPUs. I look forward to seeing it.
I think you'd be surprised how much you could downclock your CPU cock speed for most current games before you would see much of a framerate impact.
CPU speed did apparently make a big difference in performance for BWE1, because the game was still heavily CPU bound, with very little GPU optimization and no multicore support.
Could someone with a really outdated PC actually achieve little performance benefit from a GPU upgrade, due to poor CPU performance? Of course they could, if the CPU were the bottleneck, which is what I said.
If you know how to safely overclock and downclock your CPU and GPU, you can get an idea which would benefit the most from an upgrade. With recent CPUs, it's just more likely that the GPU is the bottleneck than the CPU. Also, I don't care how fast your CPU is, if you put a GPU ranked LOW on the chart in your system, your 5Ghz CPU isn't going to push your GPU beyond it's limits.
Seems like the Intel i5 handles the game great. I heard bad performance on i7's and older Quad2Core's.
If this chart is correct it's great but i don't think so, it doesn't take your CPU into consideration. In any case i will wait until release to see if i have to upgrade my computer.
I have a Quad2core 2,32 ghz with GTX 460 and WvWvW was a slideshow on everything turned off and on lowest setting.
There is a lot of difference between an overclocked i5 2500K and other i5's. Its probably the fastest gaming processor available. while the other i5's fall back behind the SB and IB i7's.
Aye i meant the 2500K. Played with 2 friends that had that processor, they were getting 60-80 FPS everywhere.
I'd love some proof of that, or atleast hear what the other specs for their computer was, since I was getting crappy fps with an OCd 2500k. And where is everywhere? Did they stand in lion's arch and still getting that fps, what about wvwvw?
Seems like the Intel i5 handles the game great. I heard bad performance on i7's and older Quad2Core's.
If this chart is correct it's great but i don't think so, it doesn't take your CPU into consideration. In any case i will wait until release to see if i have to upgrade my computer.
I have a Quad2core 2,32 ghz with GTX 460 and WvWvW was a slideshow on everything turned off and on lowest setting.
There is a lot of difference between an overclocked i5 2500K and other i5's. Its probably the fastest gaming processor available. while the other i5's fall back behind the SB and IB i7's.
Aye i meant the 2500K. Played with 2 friends that had that processor, they were getting 60-80 FPS everywhere.
I'd love some proof of that, or atleast hear what the other specs for their computer was, since I was getting crappy fps with an OCd 2500k. And where is everywhere? Did they stand in lion's arch and still getting that fps, what about wvwvw?
me too at most i ws getting 20FPS most time 10-12 FPS on max settings
Seems like the Intel i5 handles the game great. I heard bad performance on i7's and older Quad2Core's.
If this chart is correct it's great but i don't think so, it doesn't take your CPU into consideration. In any case i will wait until release to see if i have to upgrade my computer.
I have a Quad2core 2,32 ghz with GTX 460 and WvWvW was a slideshow on everything turned off and on lowest setting.
There is a lot of difference between an overclocked i5 2500K and other i5's. Its probably the fastest gaming processor available. while the other i5's fall back behind the SB and IB i7's.
Aye i meant the 2500K. Played with 2 friends that had that processor, they were getting 60-80 FPS everywhere.
I'd love some proof of that, or atleast hear what the other specs for their computer was, since I was getting crappy fps with an OCd 2500k. And where is everywhere? Did they stand in lion's arch and still getting that fps, what about wvwvw?
They had i5 2500K with gtx 560 ti and 8GB ram. They had over 60 fps in WvWvW while i had around 5-15 fps.
Seems like the Intel i5 handles the game great. I heard bad performance on i7's and older Quad2Core's.
If this chart is correct it's great but i don't think so, it doesn't take your CPU into consideration. In any case i will wait until release to see if i have to upgrade my computer.
I have a Quad2core 2,32 ghz with GTX 460 and WvWvW was a slideshow on everything turned off and on lowest setting.
There is a lot of difference between an overclocked i5 2500K and other i5's. Its probably the fastest gaming processor available. while the other i5's fall back behind the SB and IB i7's.
Aye i meant the 2500K. Played with 2 friends that had that processor, they were getting 60-80 FPS everywhere.
I'd love some proof of that, or atleast hear what the other specs for their computer was, since I was getting crappy fps with an OCd 2500k. And where is everywhere? Did they stand in lion's arch and still getting that fps, what about wvwvw?
I have 2 560 TI's in mine and my husbands computers with 16g ram and I7 2600k cpus and my mother has a 2500k with 2 560 TI's. On beta weekend she brought her box over to play with us at our home and she was getting the same 60-80 fps we were. We all had 0 lag and great fps. There didn't seem to be a difference. We played pve and WvsWvsW and suffered no lag whatsoever and no crashes.
Seems like the Intel i5 handles the game great. I heard bad performance on i7's and older Quad2Core's.
If this chart is correct it's great but i don't think so, it doesn't take your CPU into consideration. In any case i will wait until release to see if i have to upgrade my computer.
I have a Quad2core 2,32 ghz with GTX 460 and WvWvW was a slideshow on everything turned off and on lowest setting.
There is a lot of difference between an overclocked i5 2500K and other i5's. Its probably the fastest gaming processor available. while the other i5's fall back behind the SB and IB i7's.
Aye i meant the 2500K. Played with 2 friends that had that processor, they were getting 60-80 FPS everywhere.
I'd love some proof of that, or atleast hear what the other specs for their computer was, since I was getting crappy fps with an OCd 2500k. And where is everywhere? Did they stand in lion's arch and still getting that fps, what about wvwvw?
I have 2 560 TI's in mine and my husbands computers with 16g ram and I7 2600k cpus and my mother has a 2500k with 2 560 TI's. On beta weekend she brought her box over to play with us at our home and she was getting the same 60-80 fps we were. We all had 0 lag and great fps. There didn't seem to be a difference. We played pve and WvsWvsW and suffered no lag whatsoever and no crashes.
Oh I'm sorry, did I say proof? I meant typing your delusion out in green text.
A friend of mine also got 50+ fps even in large events and cities with 2500k and HD6970. Strangely 2500k setups with decent video cards seem to be the only rigs running the game well, even people with newer cpu-s and cards suffer low fps. I do hope they optimize the game, currently it would flop due to horrible performance alone.
As for the chart, it's grossly inaccurate for the beta.
A friend of mine also got 50+ fps even in large events and cities with 2500k and HD6970. Strangely 2500k setups with decent video cards seem to be the only rigs running the game well, even people with newer cpu-s and cards suffer low fps. I do hope they optimize the game, currently it would flop due to horrible performance alone.
As for the chart, it's grossly inaccurate for the beta.
Seems like it, haven't heard many reports of good FPS on other rigs.
Pretty useless without also specifying a CPU if you ask me...
CPU only matters if it's the bottleneck. The chart would likely be useful for the majority of people meeting the minimum recommended CPU specs. There also has been a lot less of a per core performance increase for CPUs over the last four years than there has been for GPUs.
It's a rule of thumb chart, mileage will vary and client optimization could move performance estimates up or down a bit.
Hum, sorry, but pretending the CPU doesn't matter, specially in a game with a client as complex as a MMORPG, is nonsense...
Would you tell me "to decode a Blu-Ray, CPU doesn't matter", I'd agree (sort of), since when you read a Blu-Ray, the CPU activity monitor barely moves since all the job is done by the graphic card.
But for a game? Sorry, but you are wrong. CPU does matter.
I think you are trying to be too serious, and reading into this chart too much....It is a loose guide, based probably on average cpu, running those cards...If your CPU is more dated than the card, maybe you bump yourself down a slot, if your cpu is more up to date, than the card, then maybe you can bump yourself up a spot...
I do not think the person was giving guarantees, just putting information together to let someone know where they might be, cpu may bump you up or down a line...What if they only have 2GB of memory? Did the guy need to make a gfx card/cpu/memory chart now to account for all 3? Sorry if it seems harsh, but it seemed like unneccesary nitpicking.
Seems like the Intel i5 handles the game great. I heard bad performance on i7's and older Quad2Core's.
If this chart is correct it's great but i don't think so, it doesn't take your CPU into consideration. In any case i will wait until release to see if i have to upgrade my computer.
I have a Quad2core 2,32 ghz with GTX 460 and WvWvW was a slideshow on everything turned off and on lowest setting.
There is a lot of difference between an overclocked i5 2500K and other i5's. Its probably the fastest gaming processor available. while the other i5's fall back behind the SB and IB i7's.
Aye i meant the 2500K. Played with 2 friends that had that processor, they were getting 60-80 FPS everywhere.
I'd love some proof of that, or atleast hear what the other specs for their computer was, since I was getting crappy fps with an OCd 2500k. And where is everywhere? Did they stand in lion's arch and still getting that fps, what about wvwvw?
I have 2 560 TI's in mine and my husbands computers with 16g ram and I7 2600k cpus and my mother has a 2500k with 2 560 TI's. On beta weekend she brought her box over to play with us at our home and she was getting the same 60-80 fps we were. We all had 0 lag and great fps. There didn't seem to be a difference. We played pve and WvsWvsW and suffered no lag whatsoever and no crashes.
Lol, tell me you use your computer for more than just gaming, because there is absolutely no reason to have 16gigs of ram for gaming. There are very few games that even utilize 4gigs.
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Seems like the Intel i5 handles the game great. I heard bad performance on i7's and older Quad2Core's.
If this chart is correct it's great but i don't think so, it doesn't take your CPU into consideration. In any case i will wait until release to see if i have to upgrade my computer.
I have a Quad2core 2,32 ghz with GTX 460 and WvWvW was a slideshow on everything turned off and on lowest setting.
There is a lot of difference between an overclocked i5 2500K and other i5's. Its probably the fastest gaming processor available. while the other i5's fall back behind the SB and IB i7's.
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Aye i meant the 2500K. Played with 2 friends that had that processor, they were getting 60-80 FPS everywhere.
No they weren't.
They were, zero lag.
Proof? Why is it that every person here happen to have had 80 fps but are too computer illiterate to run MSI AB or any similar program to help them actually back up what they say instead of just making numbers up. The only place they might have got that fps were in spvp.
Pretty useless without also specifying a CPU if you ask me...
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CPU only matters if it's the bottleneck. The chart would likely be useful for the majority of people meeting the minimum recommended CPU specs. There also has been a lot less of a per core performance increase for CPUs over the last four years than there has been for GPUs.
It's a rule of thumb chart, mileage will vary and client optimization could move performance estimates up or down a bit.
Want to know more about GW2 and why there is so much buzz? Start here: Guild Wars 2 Mass Info for the Uninitiated
Hum, sorry, but pretending the CPU doesn't matter, specially in a game with a client as complex as a MMORPG, is nonsense...
Would you tell me "to decode a Blu-Ray, CPU doesn't matter", I'd agree (sort of), since when you read a Blu-Ray, the CPU activity monitor barely moves since all the job is done by the graphic card.
But for a game? Sorry, but you are wrong. CPU does matter.
Respect, walk
Are you talkin' to me? Are you talkin' to me?
- PANTERA at HELLFEST 2023
Hmm didn't expect my card to be in the ultra category. If it's somewhat accurate that would mean I should be able to play on High with no problem as long as CPU and RAM are up to it.
Because people that can run a fps meter are more literate?
Well let me tell you they are not, in fact they are super illiterate too when it come to this, since they are most likely nerds unable to read this number properly and make a wise judgment over it. Since for most people the more you have fps the smoother your game will be which is obviously false in a real situation, that is.
And please check how much hardware and software actually enable frame per second, and you will learn that only a low % of games in history and hardware ever let you have 30+ fps, let alone 60+... And also read the article i linked in detail, so you will understand why a 10k $ computer can give the optical perception of lag and a candy pink laptop can reduce that effect.
What is important is not how much fps you can reach, but how regularly they draw, and how good they are at showing key points of an animation. If you show a 1sec animation and have 5k frames the first 0.1 sec and nothing further your animation won't worth crap, even with a 5k fps, a 12 fps properly drawn will actually be way better for anyone eyes in this case. In fact very high fps is detrimental to a fluent perception if any "lag" exist, that's quiet amazing is it? And without lag a very low fps (by the nerd standards) will be more than enough for a very good perception. That is probably why some 10k $ comp are actually looking like having lesser performance than some candy pink laptop, not to talk about all the driver and compatibility issues, and that is actually why most software and hardware lock on the fps.
Make sure you read the gaming fps section, but you really should read it all:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frame_rate
I didn't say it doesn't matter. I said it doesn't matter unless it's the bottleneck. I also clarified that there isn't nearly as wide a difference in per core CPU performance levels for CPUs sold in recent years as there is between GPUs sold in that same period of time.
You are welcome to produce a chart showing exactly how much various CPUs may effect your framerates when combined with each tier of GPUs. I look forward to seeing it.
I think you'd be surprised how much you could downclock your CPU cock speed for most current games before you would see much of a framerate impact.
CPU speed did apparently make a big difference in performance for BWE1, because the game was still heavily CPU bound, with very little GPU optimization and no multicore support.
Could someone with a really outdated PC actually achieve little performance benefit from a GPU upgrade, due to poor CPU performance? Of course they could, if the CPU were the bottleneck, which is what I said.
If you know how to safely overclock and downclock your CPU and GPU, you can get an idea which would benefit the most from an upgrade. With recent CPUs, it's just more likely that the GPU is the bottleneck than the CPU. Also, I don't care how fast your CPU is, if you put a GPU ranked LOW on the chart in your system, your 5Ghz CPU isn't going to push your GPU beyond it's limits.
Want to know more about GW2 and why there is so much buzz? Start here: Guild Wars 2 Mass Info for the Uninitiated
I'd love some proof of that, or atleast hear what the other specs for their computer was, since I was getting crappy fps with an OCd 2500k. And where is everywhere? Did they stand in lion's arch and still getting that fps, what about wvwvw?
me too at most i ws getting 20FPS most time 10-12 FPS on max settings
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Dual GTX 560 TI
They had i5 2500K with gtx 560 ti and 8GB ram. They had over 60 fps in WvWvW while i had around 5-15 fps.
I have 2 560 TI's in mine and my husbands computers with 16g ram and I7 2600k cpus and my mother has a 2500k with 2 560 TI's. On beta weekend she brought her box over to play with us at our home and she was getting the same 60-80 fps we were. We all had 0 lag and great fps. There didn't seem to be a difference. We played pve and WvsWvsW and suffered no lag whatsoever and no crashes.
What happens when you log off your characters????.....
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Oh I'm sorry, did I say proof? I meant typing your delusion out in green text.
A friend of mine also got 50+ fps even in large events and cities with 2500k and HD6970. Strangely 2500k setups with decent video cards seem to be the only rigs running the game well, even people with newer cpu-s and cards suffer low fps. I do hope they optimize the game, currently it would flop due to horrible performance alone.
As for the chart, it's grossly inaccurate for the beta.
Seems like it, haven't heard many reports of good FPS on other rigs.
hmm i don't think this graph correct tho..
I was running 20/30 fps with a gtx 460 with an i7
And the graph tells me i can run it in ultra?
Epic sideshow prolly then
I think you are trying to be too serious, and reading into this chart too much....It is a loose guide, based probably on average cpu, running those cards...If your CPU is more dated than the card, maybe you bump yourself down a slot, if your cpu is more up to date, than the card, then maybe you can bump yourself up a spot...
I do not think the person was giving guarantees, just putting information together to let someone know where they might be, cpu may bump you up or down a line...What if they only have 2GB of memory? Did the guy need to make a gfx card/cpu/memory chart now to account for all 3? Sorry if it seems harsh, but it seemed like unneccesary nitpicking.
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During BWE1 my nvidia 9800GTX card played the game on medium (barely, When it was really crowded i scaled down even more).
Hopefully this chart represents the final game
Just got an nVidia GTX 670 yesterday. Really hope GW2 will eventually take as much advantage of that as possible
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Lol, tell me you use your computer for more than just gaming, because there is absolutely no reason to have 16gigs of ram for gaming. There are very few games that even utilize 4gigs.