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Henrik Says 450,000 Subs in 5 Years!
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Appearently Henrik the CEO of StarVault went on IRC last night and said that within 5 years they would be “close to Eve population wise”
While I know Mortal Online will experiance a large increase in player population with the new Awakening expansion just around the corner and I'm sure Mortal Online will continue to improve and gradually increase it's playerbase just like Eve Online, 450 000 subs seems a little it optimistic. I'm predicting about a quater of a million subs in 5 years time, but if this doesn't materialize feel free to necro this post in 5 years and say "I told you so".
http://sandboxer.org/?p=988 Here's my source. Recently they haven't posted anything good about Mortal Online, but I still check in from time to time.
I know Mortal is supposed to get something like 5 more continents, but were would you even fit 450 000 players? It's one big open world. It's not deep space, or divided up into thousands of different servers. It's all on one instance, in one server.
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I make it a point to never trust the word or opinion of a man who runs a company worth 2 cents a share.
Good advice.
Wow is Henrik delusional. The server still crashes on a regular basis, or gets forced reboots due to individual nodes screwing up. I've seen up to 5 restarts in one day... though I usually only catch 1 or 2 reboots in the time I'm on.
Prediction that won't take 5 year to see: Mortal server will crash often after awakening hits. People will leave, eventually to a point where the server gets relatively stable again (5 restarts a day for Mortal is 'relatively stable').
lol ... I didn't even know this game was still kicking. Been awhile since I heard anything about MO or had an inkling to visit this region of MMORPG.com.
I enjoyed my time in the game. Might return one day if they can add some more features to the game so it's not just craft and then be killed by the same people over and over again. However...I would be pleasently suprised if this game is still running in five years. A lot of MMO's have been running into trouble lately, I don't know how SV will manage to last that long.
Obviously you guys prefer care bear games instead. MO is a ruthless game and is probably the most fun mmo out there. There are alot of bugs but the the concept and game play are awesome. Best open world pvp imo. I really would love to see a more polished version of this game.
Oh and to the op that is not what Henrik said. I was on irc the question was where do you see Mo in 5 years he said close to eve. He never even said anything about population.
Its also by far one of the buggiest games out there. So exactly why should players support a game thats so unstable nearly 2 years after its release?
I'll admit the game has a ton of great potential but until its in a reasonable playable state I don't think they will see their potential player population increase.
We're in Derek Smart territory here.
Fricken awesome game even with bugs. Expansion coming soon too. Cant wait. 2 years playing and counting.
Yeah man, it's so ruthless that you can have all your work wiped out by an emo GM on his period.
<HenrikNystrom> Hello everyone
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<HenrikNystrom> just wanted to jump in and say hello
<HenrikNystrom> been working very hard lately
<HenrikNystrom> need a break
<HenrikNystrom> sometime its relaxing to hear you guys Veradey
<@HenrikNystrom>; kuthara yes, you will be able to black list ppl in cities
<@HenrikNystrom>; we have converted some things in the prediction system
<@HenrikNystrom>; the test group says its much tighter now, similar to where it was as its best before or around dawn I think it was
<@HenrikNystrom>; we have changed a lot in weapons yes
<@HenrikNystrom>; the test group seem very pleased so far
<@HenrikNystrom>; we have addressed a main issue in all weapons except blades
<@HenrikNystrom>; making it hard to hit
<@HenrikNystrom>; now its easier more that you would expect from what you see
<@HenrikNystrom>; so we see a lot of diff weapon on test
<@HenrikNystrom>; doing good in duels
<@HenrikNystrom>; I dont want to say a date since I would hate to disappoint if we miss it
<@HenrikNystrom>; we really believe in doing this expansion as good as we can
<@HenrikNystrom>; we have gone very far, but we want to polish
<@HenrikNystrom>; and include some features that we haven't mentioned that we would love to get in
<@HenrikNystrom>; we are not "far" away
<[KotO]Kuthara> Some new armour sets and weps would be awesome
<@HenrikNystrom>; kuthara of course
<@HenrikNystrom>; I think we will please in a few areas, not only the AI
<@HenrikNystrom>; we do have a system fully supporting diff logos, and even your own art, but we do not have a working way of allowing you to upload it yet
<@HenrikNystrom>; well, we have improved a ton when it comes to polish and identifying bugs.
<[KotO]Kuthara> So Henrik, will we be seeing larger keep palisade walls and gates?
<@HenrikNystrom>; we do have models ready for that kuthara, and we would liketo add them soon enough, but as most other it do require a lot of work, even someone may think heck just replace A with B
<@HenrikNystrom>; we do not want to add anything that connects in pvp/sieging/cities that may be risky at all
<[AXIS]Eladriel> @Henrik: Will you start running some marketing campaigns at the release ?
<@HenrikNystrom>; Eladriel, the plan is to go out full motion when Awakening hits yes
<[CRIM]Drenn> Henrik, will more races be viable for PvP other then the cookie cutter builds?
<@HenrikNystrom>; Drenn, we will add more styles, actions, weapon types, and we will give the option to alter your stats
<@HenrikNystrom>; No we are not on steam, Yet
<@HenrikNystrom>; they had 1 thing against us when they evaluated us last year, they didn't say what it was
<@HenrikNystrom>; But I have my ideas..
<Siper> nudity henrik?
<@HenrikNystrom>; siper I think you are right
<@HenrikNystrom>; nudity is a big problem in US actually for MO
<Koshin> Yeah im sure its the nudity Which kills the game for me also Why not force some type of underwear?
<@HenrikNystrom>; Koshin, we have a solution
<[KotO]Rilman> physicsx boobs mmmmmm
<@HenrikNystrom>; we plan to remodel all player characters actually, to make them look extremely next gen hehe, but it doesn't look like we have time to do that for awakening sadly
<@HenrikNystrom>; eladriel, yeah we are working on newbie experience
<@HenrikNystrom>; there is no harder game I think, for noobs currently.
<@HenrikNystrom>; Tindrem, may be a good place for them though
<@HenrikNystrom>; crossbows comes with the new weapon package group type
<@HenrikNystrom>; No, not in awakening, awakening will not give any new weapon types, but it will give new gear
<@HenrikNystrom>; types as in crossbows instead of bows
<@HenrikNystrom>; there will be clothing, armor, weapons
<@HenrikNystrom>; items in hands
<@HenrikNystrom>; eladriel, its not to easy to add a lot of good money sinks, but I agree we need more of them
<@HenrikNystrom>; Kuthara, I still promise we will get ships, but I didn't promise when
<Spiritwolf> Henrik, will we be able to craft arrows in Awakening?
<@HenrikNystrom>; spirit, its on our list to finalize that in awakening yes, but its not a promise
<SFRanger> henrik will you guys do anything with the jungle?
<@HenrikNystrom>; ranger yes
<[AXIS]Eladriel> Easy ass money sink Henrik: outlawing a person costs ...50 gold per day!
<@HenrikNystrom>; eladriel already ahead of ya
<@HenrikNystrom>; but 50 g per day, isn't that a bit much?
<@HenrikNystrom>; if you want to ban 10 players thats 500 gold a day?!?
<@HenrikNystrom>; yeah but 10 ppl are nothing as well, start mass banning and you go bankrupt fast
<@HenrikNystrom>; that could be 1 player eladriel using 3 accounts
<@HenrikNystrom>; pluro already made a lot of hard work and balancing in weapons
<[ENVY]Pluro> Henrik will you be introducing prostitution???
<@HenrikNystrom>; pluro, you already know the answer on that one
<[ENVY]Pluro> SWEET!!!!!
<@HenrikNystrom>; Pluro, well, we are doing A LOT, especially for being such a small team with little resources, if you get to see what we are doing and compare us to others, or if you were a game dev company you would know how good we are progressing
<@HenrikNystrom>; we just want to make sure awakening works well, and that we can deliver all promised features
<@HenrikNystrom>; and some more as a bonus
<@HenrikNystrom>; since we want to add some secret stuff as well
<@HenrikNystrom>; ltankhsd, AI is coming along very nicely, the test group have gotten a lot of beating from the minotaurs already
<@HenrikNystrom>; push bug is fixed that i know (on test server)
<@HenrikNystrom>; we have fixed a lot on awakening client
<@HenrikNystrom>; already
<[KotO]Kuthara> Do horses now crap as well as piss?
<@HenrikNystrom>; no they only piss
<@HenrikNystrom>; the piss feature took 49 seconds to add
<@HenrikNystrom>; time decides such feature
<Torikhtil> birds shit
<Torikhtil> close enough
<@HenrikNystrom>; no 64 bit will not req a reinstall
<@HenrikNystrom>; it simply points to other packages
<@HenrikNystrom>; which we include in the new client
<@HenrikNystrom>; there will be some new mobs in awakening that drops other things than carcasses
<@HenrikNystrom>; for instance the gear they wear in some cases
<@HenrikNystrom>; player crafting will always be the key, even with dropable loot
<@HenrikNystrom>; guards will drop their gear
<@HenrikNystrom>; but murdering a guard have penalties
<@HenrikNystrom>; also its illegal to wear their gear.
<@HenrikNystrom>; ltankhsd yes you will be able to make money on fighting only
<[AXIS]Eladriel> so you're saying you will stay grey when wearing the guards gear ? i doubt that is implemented ;-)
<@HenrikNystrom>; eladriel, you will see
<@HenrikNystrom>; like I mentioned before, we are finally getting to the illegal stuff feature, with drugs and gear
<ltankhsd> Henrik is something eventually going to be done to even the racial playing field in game so that "the" race to be isn't Thursar Kurite?
<@HenrikNystrom>; ltankhsd yes
<@HenrikNystrom>; ranger you will love the 64 bits support if you have a monster rig
<@HenrikNystrom>; there will be no more limits
<@HenrikNystrom>; we have changed night setting a bit
<@HenrikNystrom>; since most ppl would crank their gamma anyway
<@HenrikNystrom>; so its more enjoyable for noob and vets to play at nights
<@HenrikNystrom>; without touching gamma
<@HenrikNystrom>; we play the game every day on the feature we work on, but we have little time to play on live lately
<@HenrikNystrom>; ranger, I've said many times Im very happy for the hard work the community gives to the game, Im happy with that
<Rhodri> Here is a good question, will there be systems in place to prevent people from giving out Guard-Suicide MC's?
<@HenrikNystrom>; rhodri already fixed (on test)
<SFRanger> henrik whats the real max capacity of your MO server?
<@HenrikNystrom>; ranger, there is no real cap
<@HenrikNystrom>; its a dynamic system
<@HenrikNystrom>; I would say, The only cap we have currently is Myrland.
<@HenrikNystrom>; siper, well right now its not to small, but if pop goes up it will get to small yes
<Spiritwolf> Henrik, how is the roll out to China coming along?
<@HenrikNystrom>; spirit, slow, very slow, they are not working as we are used to work.
<SFRanger> henrik where do you see MO 5 years from now?
<@HenrikNystrom>; ranger, close to Eve
<@HenrikNystrom>; population wise
<Rhodri> WHERE IS THE SKILL IN MAGERY?
<@HenrikNystrom>; pros may forget its not that easy to handle spell aimings correctly in a decent sized fight. ending up releasing them on wrong target..
<@HenrikNystrom>; we don't go fully traditional as in class wise and a counter wise, though we try hard to make all the diff skilset viable in pvp in different forms, though some will always be worse and they are meant to in some cases
<@HenrikNystrom>; alright I think I will be off trying to beat the "hell" act in the new dungeon in MO now then guys, thanks for the chat tonight!
its from this irc discussion i believe. highly doubt MO will be around in 5 years time but if it is then 10k active subs would be more than enough
there are 2 types of mmo, imitators and innovaters.
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Yeah I'm somewhat doubtful they can reach that level of population but who knows what improvements the years will bring. I don't think it's wrong for a CEO to believe in and be optimistic for his product. That being said, Awakening has me psyched for the game more than I have been since before beta.
Optimistic is one thing thats cool... delusional is another and it aint cool all times!
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Nah, it isn't we prefer care bear games. We just prefer games with polish and that are run by professionals. But feel free to attribute the lack of MO's success to w/e makes you happy
5 years is alot of time to get the game polished and add a tonne of features & content, i don't see why not.
Because the game is deep in the reds and not even his daddy will keep on paying forever.
nice word play.. Eve has a near 500k subs active at all times currently, .. MO had near 500k subs in 5 years. meaning they had a total of near 500k and , meaning the same as, we disapointed near 500k players..we made nearly 500k players feel like loosers for buying the game.
Using his cauculations WoW has 100million subcribers.
Because SV employs people that aren't even ranked as high as amateur developers. On top of having a completely delusional man running the show of course.
I guess in your world it's impossible for them to become profitable and hire more talent.
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first of all the game has only been out 2 years......so how the heck does Henrik count an extra 3 years of sub?
he's probably counting every single person that ever clicked his website as a "subscriber".
Henrik never changes.
Read the actual thread, it states that the question is: Where does Henrik see Mortal in 5 years time basically. Not that Henrik states that the game has 450k subs and has been out 5 years... Tut tut.
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No No, I don't think you understand.
Henrik is saying Mortal Online will have 450k subs in 5 years from now, not that there are already 450k subs.
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i think you misunderstand, thats exactly what silverbarr was saying in his response to jackdstripper. anyway he said clsoe to not exactly and he might mean active subs not total subscriptions??
http://nosygamer.blogspot.co.uk/2012/05/eve-onlines-tranquility-subscription.html
also according to above as of march 2012 the sub numbers for eve were no where near 450,000 and stood at 361,000 the 400,000 + is with counting trial accounts.
there are 2 types of mmo, imitators and innovaters.