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Full Loot, Open PVP

I’m looking for a MMORPG to play.

I really want full loot, open pvp. Just like UO was initially.

It makes the pvp interesting to me and gives me a reason to chase PVM rewards.

What current MMORPGs and future releases offer this?

p.s. Just to clarify, by 'full loot, open pvp' I mean that you can kill any other player character (possibly outside towns for instance) you choose. When you have killed them you can loot their body and take any of their items, equipped or in their pack you choose. There may be some insurance option like in later UO; I’m willing to put up with that if I must.

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  • ianubisiianubisi Member Posts: 4,201

    EVE Online.

  • Mikey0114Mikey0114 Member Posts: 310

    Irth Online, Currenty in Open Beta so you can play it right away mate!

    Wait 24 hours if not longer because its sunday. Give them a chance to reply with your CD-Key!

    Normally within 24 hours you get an email, but I don't know about sundays!

    Have fun!

    By the way, I think Irth is what you are looking for, Eve is Sci-Fi, Irth Online is fantasy!

  • m3thm3th Member Posts: 25

    thanks for your replies guys.

    yep ive trialed EVE and it wasnt for me. I love sci-fi and i think the game mechanics of EVE are fantastic, just the whole 'never getting out of the ship' thing doesnt get me going.

    Irth Online eh?

    ok, ill go check it out now.

  • nthnaounnthnaoun Member Posts: 1,438



    Originally posted by m3th

    Im looking for a MMORPG to play.
    I really want full loot, open pvp. Just like UO was initally.
    It makes the pvp interesting to me and gives me a reason to chase PVM rewards.
    What current MMORPGs and future releases offer this?
    p.s. just to clarify. by 'full loot, open pvp' i mean that you can kill any other player character (possibly outside towns for instance) you choose. when you have killed them you can loot thier body and take any of thier items, equipped or in thier pack you choose. there may be some insurance option like in later UO, im willing to put up with that if i must.



    why doesnt anyone read the website before posting a question. roma victor is what you seek and i didnt find that out by posting on the forums. i speant hours searching through gamees on this sight. why are you so lazy as to not want to look for yourself.
  • CaesarsGhostCaesarsGhost Member, Newbie CommonPosts: 2,136


    Originally posted by nthnaoun
    Originally posted by m3th
    Im looking for a MMORPG to play.
    I really want full loot, open pvp. Just like UO was initally.
    It makes the pvp interesting to me and gives me a reason to chase PVM rewards.
    What current MMORPGs and future releases offer this?
    p.s. just to clarify. by 'full loot, open pvp' i mean that you can kill any other player character (possibly outside towns for instance) you choose. when you have killed them you can loot thier body and take any of thier items, equipped or in thier pack you choose. there may be some insurance option like in later UO, im willing to put up with that if i must. why doesnt anyone read the website before posting a question. roma victor is what you seek and i didnt find that out by posting on the forums. i speant hours searching through gamees on this sight. why are you so lazy as to not want to look for yourself.

    I agree. Get off your ass and look.

    - CaesarsGhost

    Lead Gameplay and Gameworld Designer for a yet unnamed MMO Title.
    "When people tell me designing a game is easy, I try to get them to design a board game. Most people don't last 5 minutes, the rest rarely last more then a day. The final few realize it's neither fun nor easy."

  • m3thm3th Member Posts: 25


    Originally posted by nthnaoun
    Originally posted by m3th
    Im looking for a MMORPG to play.
    I really want full loot, open pvp. Just like UO was initally.
    It makes the pvp interesting to me and gives me a reason to chase PVM rewards.
    What current MMORPGs and future releases offer this?
    p.s. just to clarify. by 'full loot, open pvp' i mean that you can kill any other player character (possibly outside towns for instance) you choose. when you have killed them you can loot thier body and take any of thier items, equipped or in thier pack you choose. there may be some insurance option like in later UO, im willing to put up with that if i must. why doesnt anyone read the website before posting a question. roma victor is what you seek and i didnt find that out by posting on the forums. i speant hours searching through gamees on this sight. why are you so lazy as to not want to look for yourself.

    I knew what I wanted and asked this community for its opinion.

    There are many games available, considering some people here are actually adults and do not mind being sociable I had no problems in asking thier thoughts.

    However your broken english and pre-school spelling indicate you are not one of these adults and I have no interest in what you say.

    Maybe if you learned to interact like a human being you would not have to spend hours reading sites because you could ask another more knowledgeable person. You will learn as you grow older that most great things require help from others to accomplish, so leaving your room once in a while and making real life friends would probably be advised.

  • m3thm3th Member Posts: 25


    Originally posted by CaesarsGhost
    Originally posted by nthnaoun
    Originally posted by m3th
    Im looking for a MMORPG to play.
    I really want full loot, open pvp. Just like UO was initally.
    It makes the pvp interesting to me and gives me a reason to chase PVM rewards.
    What current MMORPGs and future releases offer this?
    p.s. just to clarify. by 'full loot, open pvp' i mean that you can kill any other player character (possibly outside towns for instance) you choose. when you have killed them you can loot thier body and take any of thier items, equipped or in thier pack you choose. there may be some insurance option like in later UO, im willing to put up with that if i must. why doesnt anyone read the website before posting a question. roma victor is what you seek and i didnt find that out by posting on the forums. i speant hours searching through gamees on this sight. why are you so lazy as to not want to look for yourself.
    I agree. Get off your ass and look.

    What is the point of this community if it cannot impart its experience to others?

    Some people here do not have personal issues manifested in thier 'internet toughguy' persona.

    My thread is only meant for mature people who are willing to share some of thier knowledge. Pointless responses like yours are not welcome.

  • LoBo-TPLoBo-TP Member Posts: 33
    Shadowbane and the upcoming Darkfall Online. DF online is awsome!!!
  • CaesarsGhostCaesarsGhost Member, Newbie CommonPosts: 2,136

    [quote]Originally posted by m3th
    What is the point of this community if it cannot impart its experience to others?

    Some people here do not have personal issues manifested in thier 'internet toughguy' persona.

    My thread is only meant for mature people who are willing to share some of thier knowledge. Pointless responses like yours are not welcome.
    [/b][/quote]
    Actually I'm just generally annoyed today. I guess I shouldn't have posted at all.

    - CaesarsGhost

    Lead Gameplay and Gameworld Designer for a yet unnamed MMO Title.
    "When people tell me designing a game is easy, I try to get them to design a board game. Most people don't last 5 minutes, the rest rarely last more then a day. The final few realize it's neither fun nor easy."

  • nthnaounnthnaoun Member Posts: 1,438
    thats funny because i read over my post for mis spells and found only one so your retarded and cant read. another thing im probably older than you are and have fought for my right to say whatever i freakin feel like. have you? so stfu. another thing you didnt state any games on this post that you researched on your own. if you did you wouldnt have gotten my tired of it post. instead i would have gave you my opinion. your mistaking being dependent on others to do your homework for social interaction. none of us care to help another person but having to do your homework is ridiculous. if we didnt spend hours reading through gaming sites what would our opinion be worth to anyone. our opinion would be based on nothing. so do your own homework then come ask a question until then stfu.
  • psydexpsydex Member Posts: 187

    To the thunder retard--

    I could go back and put in the proper grammar for your last tirade against doing other peoples homework. Which is obviously the route you went in school since you can't seem to grasp proper sentence structure, grammar, and the spell check command. The fellow received the information he wanted. Thousands of people visit this site everyday and most of them read the forums. Miraculously to you, some of them have played various MMORPG' and will post "Hey, i've played a game like that, and it's blah blah". Enjoy your slice of humble pie.

    Cheers,

    Ryan

  • m3thm3th Member Posts: 25


    Originally posted by nthnaoun
    thats funny because i read over my post for mis spells and found only one so your retarded and cant read. another thing im probably older than you are and have fought for my right to say whatever i freakin feel like. have you? so stfu. another thing you didnt state any games on this post that you researched on your own. if you did you wouldnt have gotten my tired of it post. instead i would have gave you my opinion. your mistaking being dependent on others to do your homework for social interaction. none of us care to help another person but having to do your homework is ridiculous. if we didnt spend hours reading through gaming sites what would our opinion be worth to anyone. our opinion would be based on nothing. so do your own homework then come ask a question until then stfu.

    Is English not your native language?

    That read like something my 10 year old sister would write.

    If you really are older than me and English is your own language then you really need to get some schooling rather than play online RPG games. 'Sesame Street' would be a good place to start. You need to work on your sentence structure, what you have written above is incomprehensible.

    But, as your in clear need of help, I will help you a get started. Let’s look at your initial post.


    why doesnt anyone read the website before posting a question. roma victor is what you seek and i didnt find that out by posting on the forums. i speant hours searching through gamees on this sight. why are you so lazy as to not want to look for yourself.

    First sentence, we will assume your talking about this website, although it’s not clear what you are talking about. Maybe you’re talking about a game's website, maybe your talking about something else.

    Next, the word 'spent' does not contain a letter 'a'. Also, 'games' has a single 'e'. However the most tragic mistake is next. The word 'sight' is in reference to vision, as in 'Sally has impaired sight'. The hint is where you wrote the word 'website' one sentence earlier, the word that needs to replace 'sight' is 'site'.

    So my friend, that’s two spelling mistakes and misuse of a word in four sentences. That performance would not get you past high school English, so if you are as old as you claim things are looking bad for you.

    Its quite possible English is not your first language and you are making a gallant attempt at using it. Well done for your effort, but you really need to spend some more time with it.

    Now in relation to your blathering about 'doing my homework', some people here have posted helpful and insightful things. These people are some examples of why the Internet is a good thing, why it should be allowed to continue into the future for the betterment of all mankind. Take note from their actions, and also their English.

    edit: Ryan posted while I was doing your homework for you. My comment is entirely separate from his; however I think you will see some coincidental similarities.

  • nthnaounnthnaoun Member Posts: 1,438
    picking on my bad grammer and english doesnt bother me a bit but that doesnt mean im a child because ive been out of school long enough to fall out of practice with all that stuff. I know im bad with my native language and i can care less what you or ryan think about it. but i havent had time for college because i joined the marine infantry instead and since then i have a family of my own and still dont have time for it. so my english will get worse and frankily i can care less. the people i talk to in real life understand me just fine. it also could be that im not trying to write a resume on the forums so i dont spell check myself or do a grammar check either. dont tell me youve never made a mistype. everyone does and i type really fast so some things doent come out the way i want them. this still doesnt change the fact that you should do your own searching on this site before asking something any self reliant person could find out on their own in 30min of looking at this very front page then following links. I did it and if your such a big and bad english wizz then you should be able to read just as well as i can. i dont mind helping people and i help people all the time but i at least ask people to do all they can to help themselves first.
  • haylenhaylen Member Posts: 106

    i don't tend to interfere with neither of your disputes concerning the use of native language and the grade in which you can, but according to the title of the topic, i'd suggest moving this flame conversation to an irrelevant forum as perhaps "Off-topic".

    I have a tree, a tree that's in my garde, but my garden's too small for the tree, so the tree is in my house, that means i don't have a house .... who am i anyway?

  • Mikey0114Mikey0114 Member Posts: 310

    Ok!!!!

    Nthnaoun...back off right now!! You have a serious problem with patience as I can see and you are way out of line....if this is your real attitude, you should be banned from these forums!!!

    Secondly m3th asked a straight forward question which is quite hard to answer....till now I and someone else have been the only 2 people answering his question properly! Roma Victor is a game you probably never played and who are you to say that he didn't look for a game with Open PvP and Full Loot. There barely are any out right now and Irth Online is in Open Beta and yes I have played it!! 

    Most people have not even heard of Irth Online! Its the only game that comes close to the way Ultima Online used to be in the old days, so don't start flaming people and showing what a bully you can be when you have the opportunity! He did not deserve what you said, and CaesarsGhost was in the wrong too, but atleast he admitted it! I am still waiting for you to show some humility.....

    You are older then me, but in truth less mature! And m3th is older then you, just check the user info.

    Next time watch what you say! M3th can easilly report you to the admins!

  • nthnaounnthnaoun Member Posts: 1,438
    First off its my right to reply anyway i see pleased. I consider my reply a non flaming reply. He didnt have to reply to my post if he found it offensive. Im no bully and never have been. You have no idea what my maturity level is. You dont see me bashing anyone personally do you? I dont know any of you personally so i wont ever bash you personally and i expect the same respect from you all. I simply stated you should try and help yourself first before asking others to do your work for you. Have you tried looking at this from everyones point of view? From my point of view im someone who spends hours doing my own research so i dont have to come here and ask others to do it for me. I have had some questions that i wanted to post such as what game would most suit me and then give you what i like in a game but i didnt. The reason why is because i know what i want in the game and if i spend time looking up and reading the different reviews of each game on this site then follow the links to their main web page then i would find out for myself. Thats being self relient. This web site has all the tools you need to find out the necessary information on just about any MMORPG out there so you dont have to ask questions like that. I see these forums as a tool to talk about what you have found on this site and others. Now i am mature and seeing that people dont like what i have said i wont say it no more. Not because i agree with you but because i dont intend to make people angry and start posts like these. Im going to drop this whole thing and move on to the next forum. I do enjoy helping other people believe it or not. I just ask to please do your research before you come here so when i make reference to something you know what im talking about. I hope you all can put this behind you and try and work together to help those who actually need it instead of showing people how immature we all can be when we dont agree on everything.
  • Mikey0114Mikey0114 Member Posts: 310

    Ok, but you were being unpleasant, and if the admins read what you just said I am sure you would be given a firm warning! You can't say what ever you like in these forums, and expect respect back after stating something you were out of line to say.

    As for researching, everyone does that. Now think of it from everyones point of view instead of your own and some other people's point of views...or whatever lol. You did see things from the new comer's point of view. Now its easy to say what you said, but if a person doesn't know where to start from, and asks for a post like the one M3th did, he's not expecting us to give him a full review on the game. Just some games for him to check out. You know what he said, right after I told him about Irth Online, he didn't ask for more information, but he said he would check it out himself. Thats one reason why you were out of line.

    Secondly games like Irth Online (which I know is what he wanted) are incredibly hard to find games. Its not easy for newcomers to find these games, so don't try to make them look bad, and yes, flaming is making them look bad.

    The Administrators of this website would definitley find you to be a liability to this community by what you stated - that you will conduct yourself anyway you like here.

    One of the main reason the community here is present is to help players find the great games they are looking for. And if you think that that hype-meter is a lot of help you are wrong. If Guild Wars is at the top, do you think its the best MMORPG out, or is it the best because it does not have a monthly subscription to play it. Some of the tools in this website are misguiding and it is very hard to find specific games with open pvp and full loot.

    Now I don't mean to continue this, but I don't want people in this community thinking they can act unpleasant and not conduct themselves properly, accusing others of being lazy and trying to make them look bad is flaming in my opinion. In this topic anyone doing that was definitley out of line, he deserved to atleast be given help to start off his search. Its one of the main reasons for this message board being present.

    On a personal note, I do my own research, but I also tend to ask the public in this forum to help me with what games to look out for. I found Roma Victor to be the game I hope is what I want. We can't treat people with disrespect, and accuse them of anything.

    Whats even worse, you failed to admit that you were out of line and that you should have atleast told M3th that he did ask for a type of game that is hard to find, and that you should have just helped him start off instead of the extra words....that I find to be extremely stubborn.

  • nthnaounnthnaoun Member Posts: 1,438
    well after him personaly bashing me you can bet i wont apologize. if you think what i said was bad you should read more of these forums because what i said was mild compared to others so called flames. i do understand where you are coming from on the noob to the site point of view and wanting a list of games from forum users to help narrow down your research. so if that was the case then i was wrong. thats not what i got from his original post however.  i did state roma victor being one in my original post. maybe not nicely but i still stated it. the hype meter may not be so much of a help but the ratings meter isnt bad. i played guild wars and thought it sucked. that is just one persons opinion though. you can read people personal reviews under guild wars however and that can be a big help. i dont understand why it has such a high rating because most the reviews were bad but then again i didnt read every single one of them either. well i suggest ending this post since the original poster obviously has and found what he was looking for.
  • Mikey0114Mikey0114 Member Posts: 310

    Yeah ok, anyway the type of game he asked for was hard to find....so there was an exception for him definitley.

    Guildwars is the most hyped because it is free of subscription fee, and has a lot of eye candy. It has the graphics and the marketing strength to be the most hyped game. And thats the reason. Other games which are free have low budgets, don't expect much money in return and can't handle a massive player base. Guild Wars cheated, since the game world is made completely out of zoning. It shouldn't even be an MMORPG but the game has the capability for over a 100 players to be in the same game zone (on of the outposts where you find a party and go on a quest). The game is totally made out of different zones having a max of 16 players in the combat zones and it doesn't really require much bandwidth and doesn't take up much server load since there isn't a lot of data passing from server to client. GuildWars is officially an MMORPG, but the hype is because of eye candy (graphics, shadings and lighting) and one of the only games with free subscription play with good combat and gameplay and very well marketed.

    If you didn't notice, its the only game without a pay to play subscription in the front pages window of most popular games.

  • jimmyman99jimmyman99 Member UncommonPosts: 3,221

    What the hell is wrong with you people? The guy is asking for directions and you stop screaming that he should research first and ask questions later? How dumb is that? He is looking for a game to play, he is asking our opinions. I dont think he should go now and read info on ALL the freaking games out there on the market. What hes doing is asking players who has experience with a certain game(s) and then, once he has a list of games he was recommended, he can go and research those specific games.

    If you got nothing else to do but flame legit requests, then you need to spend your time elsewhere or simply grow up.

    To answer OP question, the only game with open PvP and lootable items i know (aside Eve) is Lineage2. But I dont know much about it, i suggest you post your question about it on L2 forum.

    I am the type of player where I like to do everything and anything from time to time.
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  • Mikey0114Mikey0114 Member Posts: 310

    Yeah Jimmy, I already stated that they were out of line, and CaesarsGhost admitted he was in a bit of a bad mood.

    Anyway I doubt he would like Lineage 2, I heard some pretty bad things about that game....

    He said a game similar to Ultima Online, so what popped right up was Irth Online, closest thing to Ultima Online in my opinion.

    Then there is Roma Victor which is soon comming to release....and of course the infamous (to me) Darkfall which I am worried will be a total flop, because I don't think the dev team is capable of making a great game like what they promised.

  • m3thm3th Member Posts: 25

    First up, thanks Mikey0114.

    Your an example of why MMORPG.COM is still worth visiting. Ive downloaded the Irth client, installing it as we speak and received my beta key earlier this morning. Thanks mate! After reading the game's own forums, chatting on thier IRC channel and reading through thier manual it sounds like you have hit the nail right on the head. This is what I am looking for.

    Its good to know this site is still a great resource for the world's MMORPG players.

    To all the other posters in my thread that suggested games, thanks guys.

    On the subject of Guild Wars, my copy is sitting on the bookshelf opposite me right now. In my opinion it is just not a MMORPG. Its not even that much fun (ie I think it sucks), but the important part besides personal views is it really isnt what the term MMORPG has come to mean.

    Arena.net has stated this on thier own site, they never intended it to be a MMORPG. I guess I should have taken heed rather than get excited about the lack of a monthly fee. Ah well, you live and you learn.

    Anyways, Irth Online has the horses, houses and open pvp and loot that I loved from Ulitma Online. Im installing it with great anticipation.

    Again thanks to all the real contributors in this thread.

  • andermananderman Member Posts: 70

    For full loot & open PvP, check out Roma Victor

    http://www.roma-victor.com

    It's in beta test phase but launches later this year and the combat looks awesome.

    -A

  • nomadiannomadian Member Posts: 3,490

    Its true you can look up games find out if games are suited or not, this guy was just asking for recommendations really. I guess it can be frustrating to a regular mmorpg forum visitor the quantity of posts asking for a decent mmorpg. This must be solely due to the number of new visitors to the forum.

  • mechtech256mechtech256 Member UncommonPosts: 206

    I totally agree that eve online is the game you want.

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