Originally posted by stragen001HmmmmmHas ANYONE got into the BWE / stress test events that HAS NOT prepurchased? Looks like that whole "sign up for beta access" thing a few months ago was just to judge the number of people interested. Doesnt seem like they have given any keys out
Dark Pony got in...and he didn't prepurchase the game I'll try to kick his ass in pvp for you guys XD
*Uses charr orbital bombardment racial*
Everything dies.
HAH!
^This never happened, the Pony got Rampaged before he even got the chance of calling orbital support.
*fights to survive and curses Alot, his eternal Brabo nemesis*
Originally posted by stragen001HmmmmmHas ANYONE got into the BWE / stress test events that HAS NOT prepurchased? Looks like that whole "sign up for beta access" thing a few months ago was just to judge the number of people interested. Doesnt seem like they have given any keys out
Dark Pony got in...and he didn't prepurchase the game I'll try to kick his ass in pvp for you guys XD
*Uses charr orbital bombardment racial*Everything dies.HAH!
^This never happened, the Pony got Rampaged before he even got the chance of calling orbital support.
*fights to survive and curses Alot, his eternal Brabo nemesis*
How dare you out-metagame me, jonguh!
You no go jonguh on me *Unrelenting Forces the F-key*!
Originally posted by stragen001HmmmmmHas ANYONE got into the BWE / stress test events that HAS NOT prepurchased? Looks like that whole "sign up for beta access" thing a few months ago was just to judge the number of people interested. Doesnt seem like they have given any keys out
Dark Pony got in...and he didn't prepurchase the game I'll try to kick his ass in pvp for you guys XD
*Uses charr orbital bombardment racial*Everything dies.HAH!
^This never happened, the Pony got Rampaged before he even got the chance of calling orbital support.
*fights to survive and curses Alot, his eternal Brabo nemesis*
How dare you out-metagame me, jonguh!
You no go jonguh on me *Unrelenting Forces the F-key*!
*Ugh*
Wadoedegijnou, kut!
p.s. We should organize a Dutch / western EU mmorpg.com meet sometime.
Originally posted by stragen001HmmmmmHas ANYONE got into the BWE / stress test events that HAS NOT prepurchased? Looks like that whole "sign up for beta access" thing a few months ago was just to judge the number of people interested. Doesnt seem like they have given any keys out
Dark Pony got in...and he didn't prepurchase the game I'll try to kick his ass in pvp for you guys XD
*Uses charr orbital bombardment racial*Everything dies.HAH!
^This never happened, the Pony got Rampaged before he even got the chance of calling orbital support.
*fights to survive and curses Alot, his eternal Brabo nemesis*
How dare you out-metagame me, jonguh!
You no go jonguh on me *Unrelenting Forces the F-key*!
*Ugh*
Wadoedegijnou, kut!
p.s. We should organize a Dutch / western EU mmorpg.com meet sometime.
Originally posted by letsxhatThere was a post awhile back about "Brilliant Marketing." They only player reviews are coming from people who are "all in." People who are monetarily commited.
Don't you think that makes sense, at this point? Relatively few people are in the beta from sources other than Prepurchase. Also, they are the most passionate and vocal about it, and they managed to play the most, so far. Ergo, they are the ones with more stories and impressions to tell.I think we'll have more people from other sources in this BWE (at least, i've seen more giveaways and key offers than before, so far). I hope these people also tell their stories from the game.A myriad of opinions is always better than fewer. But I hardly believe that they will be more impartial. Opinions and impressiona are by definition subjective and, thus, biased.
I prepurchased to play the Beta with a friend who's a big fan. I found it wasn't really my cup of tea, but I wish them well.
That being said, the fervor GW2 has generated means that people who didn't like it may be keeping their opinions to themselves. The friend I mentioned literally can't believe I didn't like it, so we simply don't discuss it.
Originally posted by stragen001HmmmmmHas ANYONE got into the BWE / stress test events that HAS NOT prepurchased? Looks like that whole "sign up for beta access" thing a few months ago was just to judge the number of people interested. Doesnt seem like they have given any keys out
Dark Pony got in...and he didn't prepurchase the game I'll try to kick his ass in pvp for you guys XD
*Uses charr orbital bombardment racial*Everything dies.HAH!
^This never happened, the Pony got Rampaged before he even got the chance of calling orbital support.
*fights to survive and curses Alot, his eternal Brabo nemesis*
How dare you out-metagame me, jonguh!
You no go jonguh on me *Unrelenting Forces the F-key*!
*Ugh*
Wadoedegijnou, kut!
p.s. We should organize a Dutch / western EU mmorpg.com meet sometime.
I think most folks in this forum prepurchased it, at least the regular posters.
Most? It looks like all... Hmmm...
What's the new conspiracy? We are all NCSoft shills? Come on, share with us. Don't be a killjoy.
There was a post awhile back about "Brilliant Marketing." They only player reviews are coming from people who are "all in." People who are monetarily commited.
I am monetarily commited to D3. I think it's garbage and just because I bought it doen't mean I will not be honest about it. I can see where you want to go with the statement but I don't think I see your point. I bought 3 copies so far so I also got in via prepurchase
The argument is that given a population, if you select those that are willing to prepurchase, they will on average have a more positive view compared to choosing a random selection of players from that population.. Keep in mind that prepurchasing a game with no release date requires larger psychological commitment than purchasing a game you can play now.
Originally posted by DarkPony Originally posted by AlotOriginally posted by DarkPonyOriginally posted by AlotOriginally posted by DarkPonyOriginally posted by ReskaillevOriginally posted by stragen001HmmmmmHas ANYONE got into the BWE / stress test events that HAS NOT prepurchased? Looks like that whole "sign up for beta access" thing a few months ago was just to judge the number of people interested. Doesnt seem like they have given any keys out
Dark Pony got in...and he didn't prepurchase the game I'll try to kick his ass in pvp for you guys XD*Uses charr orbital bombardment racial*Everything dies.HAH!^This never happened, the Pony got Rampaged before he even got the chance of calling orbital support.*fights to survive and curses Alot, his eternal Brabo nemesis*How dare you out-metagame me, jonguh!You no go jonguh on me *Unrelenting Forces the F-key*!*Ugh*
Wadoedegijnou, kut!
p.s. We should organize a Dutch / western EU mmorpg.com meet sometime.
That's going to be difficult since we can't freely swap servers I believe, as the Guest function is disabled.
There was a post awhile back about "Brilliant Marketing." They only player reviews are coming from people who are "all in." People who are monetarily commited.
Don't you think that makes sense, at this point? Relatively few people are in the beta from sources other than Prepurchase. Also, they are the most passionate and vocal about it, and they managed to play the most, so far. Ergo, they are the ones with more stories and impressions to tell.
I think we'll have more people from other sources in this BWE (at least, i've seen more giveaways and key offers than before, so far). I hope these people also tell their stories from the game.
A myriad of opinions is always better than fewer. But I hardly believe that they will be more impartial. Opinions and impressiona are by definition subjective and, thus, biased.
holy crap! we agree
edit - except for the impartial part.
An impartial person would be one with no preference in the battle of themepark vs sandbox and WoW-clone vs non-clones. Would be very hard to find if not impossible, I would guess.
The argument is that given a population, if you select those that are willing to prepurchase, they will on average have a more positive view compared to choosing a random selection of players from that population.. Keep in mind that prepurchasing a game with no release date requires larger psychological commitment than purchasing a game you can play now.
True.
But it is also true that those who didn't prepurchase or got in the beta, or those who don't care about the game in the first place, shouldn't just post worthless posts just to bash and belittle the game (due to their hatred of ignorance).
It works both ways, those that are already commited will be a bit biased possitevely towards the game and those who didn't will bash and troll without any valid arguments at all. And it happens a lot on the GW2 forums unfortunately. On second thought, it happens on most gaming forums that support multiple games, this is the power of the internet.
Keep in mind that games with horrible betas also had lots of negative comments by those who played the them....
Block the trolls, don't answer them, so we can remove the garbage from these forums
I won a key through the IGN giveaway on the first day. I tried all three times that day and the first two releases I got the key entered and it got used when I was making an account and then all the keys were gone. On the final release I lost my key making an account but got lucky and was able to get it on the second key I tried.
hee lileke natnekk! Je zit in je broek te pissen JONGE!
On topic:
Seeing that this BWE is shaping up to be a real massive one? Maybe this will be last one then
I hope it won't be the last. There should be somekind of high level content beta + some hands on time with the other races to demonstrate people that the game has the same level of polish everywhere and is indeed "done". Even if it's a limited press beta or something.
Otherwise they would be keeping a lot inside the bag and whether that's only rose petals and candy and no cats or bear traps would be anyone's guess.
The last time we've heared "It's done when it's done" was from Bioware but that didn't stop them from launching with a hugely underdeveloped Ilum and non existant world pvp mechanics throughout the game.
I signed up for Beta, thats it. I know a few websites hand out keys occasionally. The only one I can think of is PC gamer but I havent tried to get one. No I did not pre purchase, so no I have not played Beta.
You know, I actually like to find bugs in beta and test things out, and its not always just the great time I would be having playing the released game. Im a very patient person and I rather just wait. If they want me they can send me a key which doesnt look like thats going to happen, and thats not my lose. That's theirs. Because Im a fair tester I think.
I guess I kind of have an aversion to paying for something where Im doing a job for them. Ircks me. Of course these days beta testing seems to be more of a preview kind of thing. Which is less productive and kind of sad to me. Guess Im just old fashioned that way.
Anyways I cant possibly hate on anyone who did pre purchase. More power to you guys and gals. Its just not for me. When I buy a game I want to play it. Its mine. MY PRECIOUS! And I'll play it any time I want. But I wont pay to beta. Thats not a privalege to me. Thats work. Fun work maybe, but work. I dont expect to be paid for it, but I dont expect to pay for it either. But thats just me.
For the rest of you, have fun. Just please submit reports so the devs might find something they missed and fix it up before release. Please please please do this. Dont just play. TEST. Please test. Im begging you.
Bought the game. Followed it for YEARS. Am I supposed to feel guiltly like so many seem to thing we should for buying it?
F$ck no. I work for a living. $60 is NOTHING to me. You broke ass losers.
Yet still you somehow have to urge to be very defensive about your decision and pretty much out of the blue?
I think he's half kidding in most of the things he says which is hard to detect over the net. Or...well.....I hope so. I myself am mostly a "Broke *** Loser" though.
Im so broke all I have is moths in my pocket. And you know what those rat ***** have done? THEY ATE A HOLE IN THE POCKETS! And do you know what happens when I put money into those pockets? Yea it falls out. *bursts into tears*
Bought the game. Followed it for YEARS. Am I supposed to feel guiltly like so many seem to thing we should for buying it?
F$ck no. I work for a living. $60 is NOTHING to me. You broke ass losers.
Yet still you somehow have to urge to be very defensive about your decision and pretty much out of the blue?
I think he's half kidding in most of the things he says which is hard to detect over the net. Or...well.....I hope so. I myself am mostly a "Broke *** Loser" though.
Im so broke all I have is moths in my pocket. And you know what those rat ***** have done? THEY ATE A HOLE IN THE POCKETS! And do you know what happens when I put money into those pockets? Yea it falls out. *bursts into tears*
lol. Now we need more peeps like this. Not the broke part ... sorry 'bout that.
I signed up for Beta, thats it. I know a few websites hand out keys occasionally. The only one I can think of is PC gamer but I havent tried to get one. No I did not pre purchase, so no I have not played Beta.
You know, I actually like to find bugs in beta and test things out, and its not always just the great time I would be having playing the released game. Im a very patient person and I rather just wait. If they want me they can send me a key which doesnt look like thats going to happen, and thats not my lose. That's theirs. Because Im a fair tester I think.
I guess I kind of have an aversion to paying for something where Im doing a job for them. Ircks me. Of course these days beta testing seems to be more of a preview kind of thing. Which is less productive and kind of sad to me. Guess Im just old fashioned that way.
Anyways I cant possibly hate on anyone who did pre purchase. More power to you guys and gals. Its just not for me. When I buy a game I want to play it. Its mine. MY PRECIOUS! And I'll play it any time I want. But I wont pay to beta. Thats not a privalege to me. Thats work. Fun work maybe, but work. I dont expect to be paid for it, but I dont expect to pay for it either. But thats just me.
For the rest of you, have fun. Just please submit reports so the devs might find something they missed and fix it up before release. Please please please do this. Dont just play. TEST. Please test. Im begging you.
You're not old fashioned, you are just a wise consumer
But the problem with beta weekends is that they aren't really intended and suited for bug hunting. They are fan pacifiers, and yield overal impressions and press opportunities. So mainly marketing tools.
Chances are every bug you find will have been thoroughly reported by extensive, in house closed beta testing. It's the closed bag approach instead of the open bag one which Arch Age is employing.
I signed up for Beta, thats it. I know a few websites hand out keys occasionally. The only one I can think of is PC gamer but I havent tried to get one. No I did not pre purchase, so no I have not played Beta.
You know, I actually like to find bugs in beta and test things out, and its not always just the great time I would be having playing the released game. Im a very patient person and I rather just wait. If they want me they can send me a key which doesnt look like thats going to happen, and thats not my lose. That's theirs. Because Im a fair tester I think.
I guess I kind of have an aversion to paying for something where Im doing a job for them. Ircks me. Of course these days beta testing seems to be more of a preview kind of thing. Which is less productive and kind of sad to me. Guess Im just old fashioned that way.
Anyways I cant possibly hate on anyone who did pre purchase. More power to you guys and gals. Its just not for me. When I buy a game I want to play it. Its mine. MY PRECIOUS! And I'll play it any time I want. But I wont pay to beta. Thats not a privalege to me. Thats work. Fun work maybe, but work. I dont expect to be paid for it, but I dont expect to pay for it either. But thats just me.
For the rest of you, have fun. Just please submit reports so the devs might find something they missed and fix it up before release. Please please please do this. Dont just play. TEST. Please test. Im begging you.
You're not old fashioned, you are just a wise consumer
But the problem with beta weekends is that they aren't really intended and suited for bug hunting. They are fan pacifiers, and yield overal impressions and press opportunities. So mainly marketing tools.
Chances are every bug you find will have been thoroughly reported by extensive, in house closed beta testing. It's the closed bag approach instead of the open bag one which Arch Age is employing.
BWE's do yield surprising amount of bugs reported. I was lucky to have a chance to talk with one of the developers during the first BWE for a fair amount of time (on the last available day). He told me (among other things) that they received a hefty pile of bugs they missed with their inner testing team and that BWE was a fairly successful in terms of bug hunting.
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*fights to survive and curses Alot, his eternal Brabo nemesis*
How dare you out-metagame me, jonguh!
My brand new bloggity blog.
You no go jonguh on me *Unrelenting Forces the F-key*!
*Ugh*
Wadoedegijnou, kut!
p.s. We should organize a Dutch / western EU mmorpg.com meet sometime.
My brand new bloggity blog.
We'd better not discuss it then ^_^
Now worries, it's just a Dutch thingy ^_^
My brand new bloggity blog.
The argument is that given a population, if you select those that are willing to prepurchase, they will on average have a more positive view compared to choosing a random selection of players from that population.. Keep in mind that prepurchasing a game with no release date requires larger psychological commitment than purchasing a game you can play now.
*Uses charr orbital bombardment racial* Everything dies. HAH!
^This never happened, the Pony got Rampaged before he even got the chance of calling orbital support.
*fights to survive and curses Alot, his eternal Brabo nemesis* How dare you out-metagame me, jonguh!
You no go jonguh on me *Unrelenting Forces the F-key*!
*Ugh*
Wadoedegijnou, kut!
p.s. We should organize a Dutch / western EU mmorpg.com meet sometime.
That's going to be difficult since we can't freely swap servers I believe, as the Guest function is disabled.
An impartial person would be one with no preference in the battle of themepark vs sandbox and WoW-clone vs non-clones. Would be very hard to find if not impossible, I would guess.
True.
But it is also true that those who didn't prepurchase or got in the beta, or those who don't care about the game in the first place, shouldn't just post worthless posts just to bash and belittle the game (due to their hatred of ignorance).
It works both ways, those that are already commited will be a bit biased possitevely towards the game and those who didn't will bash and troll without any valid arguments at all. And it happens a lot on the GW2 forums unfortunately. On second thought, it happens on most gaming forums that support multiple games, this is the power of the internet.
Keep in mind that games with horrible betas also had lots of negative comments by those who played the them....
Block the trolls, don't answer them, so we can remove the garbage from these forums
hee lileke natnekk! Je zit in je broek te pissen JONGE!
On topic:
Seeing that this BWE is shaping up to be a real massive one? Maybe this will be last one then
"Isn't a raid plundering villages in WoW or something like that?" - Robert Desable
I won a key through the IGN giveaway on the first day. I tried all three times that day and the first two releases I got the key entered and it got used when I was making an account and then all the keys were gone. On the final release I lost my key making an account but got lucky and was able to get it on the second key I tried.
I hope it won't be the last. There should be somekind of high level content beta + some hands on time with the other races to demonstrate people that the game has the same level of polish everywhere and is indeed "done". Even if it's a limited press beta or something.
Otherwise they would be keeping a lot inside the bag and whether that's only rose petals and candy and no cats or bear traps would be anyone's guess.
The last time we've heared "It's done when it's done" was from Bioware but that didn't stop them from launching with a hugely underdeveloped Ilum and non existant world pvp mechanics throughout the game.
My brand new bloggity blog.
Preorder wasn't an option, so I voted pre-purchased. I didn't pay anything though (and yes I have a beta key).
I bought it! (and will unfortunately miss the next beta).
Bought the game. Followed it for YEARS. Am I supposed to feel guiltly like so many seem to thing we should for buying it?
F$ck no. I work for a living. $60 is NOTHING to me. You broke ass losers.
You stay sassy!
i pre-purchased.
I also pre-purchased Digital Deluxe, because I love in-game fluff and this game is my second coming of jesus
Sadly I will miss the next BWE aswell /cry
I signed up for Beta, thats it. I know a few websites hand out keys occasionally. The only one I can think of is PC gamer but I havent tried to get one. No I did not pre purchase, so no I have not played Beta.
You know, I actually like to find bugs in beta and test things out, and its not always just the great time I would be having playing the released game. Im a very patient person and I rather just wait. If they want me they can send me a key which doesnt look like thats going to happen, and thats not my lose. That's theirs. Because Im a fair tester I think.
I guess I kind of have an aversion to paying for something where Im doing a job for them. Ircks me. Of course these days beta testing seems to be more of a preview kind of thing. Which is less productive and kind of sad to me. Guess Im just old fashioned that way.
Anyways I cant possibly hate on anyone who did pre purchase. More power to you guys and gals. Its just not for me. When I buy a game I want to play it. Its mine. MY PRECIOUS! And I'll play it any time I want. But I wont pay to beta. Thats not a privalege to me. Thats work. Fun work maybe, but work. I dont expect to be paid for it, but I dont expect to pay for it either. But thats just me.
For the rest of you, have fun. Just please submit reports so the devs might find something they missed and fix it up before release. Please please please do this. Dont just play. TEST. Please test. Im begging you.
Yet still you somehow have to urge to be very defensive about your decision and pretty much out of the blue?
My brand new bloggity blog.
It's was a joke. I'll be more sensitive for the likes next time if you desire.
Here's a tip: watch more British humor. American's can be so terribly PC. It makes the world oh so boring.
You stay sassy!
I think he's half kidding in most of the things he says which is hard to detect over the net. Or...well.....I hope so. I myself am mostly a "Broke *** Loser" though.
Im so broke all I have is moths in my pocket. And you know what those rat ***** have done? THEY ATE A HOLE IN THE POCKETS! And do you know what happens when I put money into those pockets? Yea it falls out. *bursts into tears*
lol. Now we need more peeps like this. Not the broke part ... sorry 'bout that.
You stay sassy!
You're not old fashioned, you are just a wise consumer
But the problem with beta weekends is that they aren't really intended and suited for bug hunting. They are fan pacifiers, and yield overal impressions and press opportunities. So mainly marketing tools.
Chances are every bug you find will have been thoroughly reported by extensive, in house closed beta testing. It's the closed bag approach instead of the open bag one which Arch Age is employing.
My brand new bloggity blog.
BWE's do yield surprising amount of bugs reported. I was lucky to have a chance to talk with one of the developers during the first BWE for a fair amount of time (on the last available day). He told me (among other things) that they received a hefty pile of bugs they missed with their inner testing team and that BWE was a fairly successful in terms of bug hunting.