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Why I'm sticking with SWTOR.
Trikke
Member Posts: 90
Having played most of the mmo's that have been released in the last 10 years I have decieded to stick with swtor for the time being. Unless DAOC comes back from the dead. WOW stops playing with panda's and pokemon. Or Eve online brings back and finishes Incarna (IE walking in stations) It seems that there is no other reasonable choice but for me to stick with SWTOR.
Yes I have seen and read about all the doom and gloom. Server merger's, Layoffs, ect... and I don't really care.. I was there when the player base whined about claas imbalance, radar, speed hacks, and how noone liked the trials of atlantis that killed DAOC. I was there when The SWG higher ups decieded to try to become more like wow. I was there when goonswarm decieded to suicide gank anyone mining hi-sec ice fields. And most others whined about a 75$ monicle and not being able to spin you ship in a circle in your docking bay.
In my humble opinion the problem with every MMO that has come out in the last 5 years is YOU. Whining about wow this or gw2 that. This is too hard. That is too simple. Im board. I want my milk and cookies. All of which I have also said and done in the past.
So instead I'm gonna pick a game I like (swtor) and follow it to what ever end.
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I only hope that when it does all the cry babies deciede to pick it up a year after it launches.
Too bad EA and Bioware clearly doesn't feel like sticking with SWTOR
this.. glad you like the game.. shame EA / BW bumped it to maintenance mode
A prime example of what I stated above.
Sign up for the soon to start Planetside 2 beta. If you need a reason why then just sit back and watch the E3 footage of mass battles in the game coming out this week during the E3.This is one MMO not to ignore if you're board and jaded with the MMO scene right now. Though if you're not a fps player what so ever, then I guess I see your point sticking with TOR as your type of MMO.
Congrats on liking the game, I really wanted to like SWTOR because I am a huge fan of Star Wars & a Huge Fan of the Kotor games and bioware games in general. The big issue for me with SWTOR is I dont feel like paying a $15 a month sub to play a singleplayer CRPG that has co-op and vs multiplayer which is a facet that will never change because of the underlying engine.
WoW to me was boring as hell but people liked it and they will stick to it even when there is Pandas and Pokemon simply because now so many years down the line they have a lot of time invested in the game particularly those happy to grind endlessly for gear.
That said the problem is not the players, as they say money talks & bullshit walks. Players will talk as usual with their wallets and walk away from games that are average but want you to pay a monthly sub which is what is happening with SWTOR.
Good luck though, I know a lot of my guildies stuck with WAR to the "bitter end" and the way EA has handled that has been appalling & not even bringing in the A-guns from Bioware with their ship could save that sinking ship. IMHO SWTOR is an even bigger problem for Bioware because its basically impossible to save a sinking ship when the ship that is sinking is the one which you are comanding.
I havent participated in a beta sence warhamer. Beta's are for testing the game and geting honest feedback from the players.
Which is one of the reasons warhamer failed in my opinion. They decieded to listen to the fanboi's rather than listen to us who were screeming at them to fix the pvp b4 it was too late.
How bout instead of trying out the beta I continue to spam the hell out of SWTOR to make ILUM more like how DAOC open world pvp or maybe add a 2nd tier of persistent battle grounds to go along with the capture the flag style and hopeful soom rated wz ect..
I understand your idea of being faithful to a game, I really do. As someone who started out in the EQ1 days, that was the norm back then and not to go from game to game every month. So far my longest jaunt was 5 years in EVE. At the end of my Annual Pass in WoW, it will be over 4 years in WoW, and I spent 2 years in DAoC and in EQ2. I can definitely see where you are coming from.
However, when a game gets boring and has too many negatives that outweigh the positives I end up leaving. That was my experience in ToR. I really wanted to like the game since I am a Star Wars fan, have liked many Bioware titles in the past especially the phenomenal BG series, enjoyed KotOR, and SWG, but I didn't, so I moved on. Please don' t taunt all of us who left it because we didn't like it.
Playing MUDs and MMOs since 1994.
Can't disagree with your idea of staying with it. I'm still playing it myself though it honestly feels temporary.
But saying folks used the beta a trial is not accurate at all. As you said, you haven't been in a beta since warhammer. Many...many people threw the suggestions you just stated and more at Bioware during beta. They got PLENTY of feedback and many of those suggestions were very good, sound and got ignored.
So while you say it is the 'whining' that is wrong (course it is a bit hyprocritical since you said you did as such with warhammer and was ignored just like some ToR players have felt) it is the ones who simply let medicore development and customer service be good enough. In other words, if folks do not speak out, make their voice heard or move on from a game to speak with their wallets then developers will continue with the status quo and do nothing. They will think everything is 'fine' and there will be no progress.
Think about that before pointing your finger at others because they don't react or approach a situation in the same manner that you do.
Pandarin have been part of Warcraft since the Warcraft 3 expansion. They should have been playable a long time ago.
What about maintance mode did ya say? I see a new race, companion, and planet inc. How much content does your SW MMO have coming?
Asking Devs to make AAA sandbox titles is like trying to get fine dining on a McDonalds dollar menu budget.
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Exactly. There is a laundry list of reasons I will never play WoW again or another Blizzard game. But, Pandarin are not one of them. Is a Panda man really more out of place than some of the other races in the game that are half animals? The pet battles thing is rather silly to me. But, I saw people ask for it. Players. So...well...yeah.
What concerns me the most about this post is the choice made of sticking to something you don't really fully like. You say you like it, but you didn't list any reasons that you do. You only listed bad things in SWTOR and other games. It sounds like you are sticking with the one you hate the least because you have to have a game. If you do truly like it, have fun with it while it's fun. And stop letting what other people say about it affect you so deeply. You only have to justify your time and money use to yourself.
Glad someone is sticking to it since the CEO of EA sure isn't.
This might be the best time to revisit the game then. Since corporate interest is the death of creativity, mayhaps corporate disinterest will bring the creativity back!
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According to the GW2 forums, some folks are already not sure about that game as well.
Perhaps they can all get together for some group therapy eh?
This game isnt hauling down money like a Madden does. What a shocker. It is still pulling down more money than GW2 will, so perhaps folks should be worry about that game. NM.....I forgot about the pay to win scheme. Throw in the buy blind if ya want in beta, and they got their bases covered. My bad.
With the 2nd most NA subs, I think it will be around at least another week. Maybe in 2 weeks we can send out a search party, just to be safe.
Asking Devs to make AAA sandbox titles is like trying to get fine dining on a McDonalds dollar menu budget.
im going to keep trying games until I find one I like, then I will play it for a while, and then I will probably play a bunch more games looking for the next game I will like.
unless someone makes a game thats built to hold people, but no one has done that since wow. certainly not SWTOR imo. story? I had two 50s when I quit. The story ended. SWTOR has an endgame that actually ends. much like most of the mmos over the past 10 years.
yes I realize content has to be finite, but it also has to have replay value. wow is the last themepark that had real replay value. it lost it, but it did have it early on.
I was never at a point in wow where I was finished with everything in the game, and im not talking about alts. I raided a lot and never finished every raid before an expansion. I was done with raiding and pvp on 2 character in swtor before 1.2 ... all they did was add a crappy new raid and ruined pvp. I quit the day after 1.2.
all games, even wow, now .. are like this now. so we continue to hope someone will improve upon what we have .. but that doesnt seem likely.
LFD tools are great for cramming people into content, but quality > quantity.
I am, usually on the sandbox .. more "hardcore" side of things, but I also do just want to have fun. So lighten up already
I'm doing exactly the same. Quite honestly this decade has been abysmal for mmos , while some came close to becoming well on their way they ended up failing in the end! I'm also going to stick with WoW until another MMO comes out that has open world, well thought out pvp, and other added bonuses.
Honestly the irony here is that blizzards next MMO Titan may end up good as well, even after all the other crap mmos we had over the years. Say what you want but if SWTOR actually made an open travel world with planets, had implemented better pvp the game would have become dominant, but alas the opposite came true! For now WoW is the only mmo I recommend and granted the next expansion may or many not be all that , at least it will be polished and considering there is no other mmo out there that is better its all many mmo player's have left....
I would give you a guest pass to SWOTR, but then I wouldn't be able to find a way to live with myself afterwards....
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Anyways, as much as the most fervent starwars fan could have wanted this game to work out, I would say I was equally hopeful. Especially after reading the Darth Bane trilogy (essentially my last read starwars series since I gave up on NJO after Jacen died in Legacy) I wasn't even hoping for much. In my mind, worst case scenario was WOW with lightsabers.
Reading that Drew was writing some swtor stuff didn't hurt either, maybe they should have brought him in for ME3 instead of wasting him on swtor.
Bottom line, it's great that you found an mmo your're going to stick with, even if it sucks and your reasoning is absent from your post. Kind of begs the question as to why you even posted if your not going to comprehensively share the why.
Anyway, as long as Skyrim has community and developer support I can wait until a good MMO comes out, don't have to stick to some mediocre constant monthly money draining game until it dies.
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Did ya really need to insult the person for sticking with something they wanna play? I would think the mature thing to do would be to wish them well, and go about your business.
Asking Devs to make AAA sandbox titles is like trying to get fine dining on a McDonalds dollar menu budget.
There is nothing wrong with finding a game you like and sticking with it.
I wanted to stick with SWTOR. I just could not do it. Aside from the breaks from the lore and the general combat limitations the really big thing that halted my sub was a lack of things to at the end.
I had cleared most of the raid content, and had several guild members that were through all of the raid content and fully geared when I quit. I ran the war zones over and over and had my pvp gear complete.
I do not enjoy raiding all that much and prefer pvp. The pvp in SWTOR has little to no purpose. The war zones are too few and at the time I played had quickly devolved into a couple of standard strategies employed best by pre-made groups. There is supposed to be open world pvp but it was hard to find and even harder to create on the server I was on. There were a few days in Ilum that we had some really good battles, but that was rare to find.
During my final days I just logged in and flew around in circles on my various speeders bored with little else to do. I had no desire to level more characters and even less to enter war zones. Ilum is a confirmed failure and the dailies are more a time sink than a challenge in my opinion.
Overall the game just did not have enough content and variety to keep me playing and paying for it. If they are able to add to the game and flesh out the content with enough interesting things for a player to do I might return.
If a game can provide the things I like to do, I will eventually take part in most of the content I generally dislike. With SWTOR I was almost entirely geared and through all but the hardest raid content in about 6 weeks. I just kept thinking I missed something somewhere or overlooked stuff but if I did I just could not find it.
i was still playing this until D3 came out, i am sure i will resub eventually, hopefully after they somehow fix pvp because that was my biggest issue with the game since i don't raid or do pve endgame in any MMO anymore.
Incarna? The chase for Incarna almost destroyed EVE. When they actually come up with things to do in a space station I'm all for it, until then there are another 1000 paper cuts to be fixed.