Some larger companies are now refusing to hire smokers, and it's perfectly legal. I think it's a great way to get the message across to ignorant people that smoking is not acceptable anymore.
It is a fact that smokers are less productive than non smokers because of a higher rate of illness and the increased break time they need for their habit.
Smokers also raise health insurance premiums for everyone, because the cost for treating cancer and other smoking related illnesses is spread amongst smokers and non smokers alike.
Smokers are also the worst litterbugs. Why some inconsiderate jerks can't carry a plastic baggy on their person and pick up their butts after putting them out is beyond understanding. Do they really think it's attractive to see cigarette butts all over the ground?
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Its the same reason behind a heroin addict not throwing away his/her needles when they are done shooting up.They dont care about themselves so why should they care about the world around them.The post i was reponding to was a perfect example.It was a couple of postings above mine.
He smokes to "piss people off".He cares so little about the world around him he wants everyone to hate him as well.Kind of sad really he already hates himself and lashes out at everyone else as well.
Want to ENJOY an mmo?
Dont start a guild and dont be a leader or volunteer to be coleader or captain.
Originally posted by Jorev Some larger companies are now refusing to hire smokers, and it's perfectly legal. I think it's a great way to get the message across to ignorant people that smoking is not acceptable anymore.
Just more hypocritical PC bull. Personally I think that companies should have the right to hire and not hire whoever they damn well please. But the whole fact that you'll get your ass sued off if you don't hire someone for some other reason that deals with their personal life; but then they can do that to smokers?
I think smoking is a nasty, dirty habit. But this whole demonization and boycotting of it, is absurd BS.
Wonder what would happen if they started having commercials against fat/obese people. And companies started not hiring people they deemed as unsuitable because they were too overweight.
Afterall...It can be classified as an unhealthy, addictive disorder.
"Fear not death; for the sooner we die, the longer shall we be immortal."
Originally posted by Aldaron Originally posted by Jorev Some larger companies are now refusing to hire smokers, and it's perfectly legal. I think it's a great way to get the message across to ignorant people that smoking is not acceptable anymore. Just more hypocritical PC bull. Personally I think that companies should have the right to hire and not hire whoever they damn well please. But the whole fact that you'll get your ass sued off if you don't hire someone for some other reason that deals with their personal life; but then they can do that to smokers? I think smoking is a nasty, dirty habit. But this whole demonization and boycotting of it, is absurd BS. Wonder what would happen if they started having commercials against fat/obese people. And companies started not hiring people they deemed as unsuitable because they were too overweight. Afterall...It can be classified as an unhealthy, addictive disorder.
Yeah but the difference is that an obese person isnt going outside every 30 minutes or so to take a "cupcake"break.Smokers these days tend to rally the wagons and take breaks in groups.Get 5 of them taking a 10 minute break and its 50 minutes of work time lost.Lets say in a best case scenario they take 5 breaks a day and it adds up to 250 minutes right?
Between 5 people its a bit over 4 hours in a 40 hour work week it adds up to 20 hours that 5 people waste for any given company.
Rewarding people would be a better idea than punishing them but that would cost money as well.Most corporate environments will get rid of a negative influence anyway.
Want to ENJOY an mmo?
Dont start a guild and dont be a leader or volunteer to be coleader or captain.
Originally posted by lyonman24 the scary thing is is that non smokers come up to me at work (i work at the front desk of a hotel) and request non smoking cause they can smell it a mile away. i to them could you smell me then and every single time its oh your i smoker i couldnt tell.you will quit when your ready in your mind. not a day before or after.the bs about second hand smoke and the chemicals arg you all know that your breathing the same damn stuff normally that just in the air from natural pollutants. the dirrect inhale off a cig is bad for the person smoking that is true. cars, cows, and tons of factories and other stuff give out the same type of pollutants as cigs. cancer is natural in everyones body they are excelerated by nicotine true but its not the only friggin thing that excelerates the process. when they give stats on people dieing from cancer in smoking adds they add anyone that might have been near smoking once in there lifetime so the numbers are inflated wrongly.i deffend smoking for one reason as i will defend abortion ITS MY FING CHOICE TO SMOKE I AM NOT GOING TO BE CONTROLED BY SOME DAMN LAW MADE BY SOMEONE WHO MIGHT THINK THAT HIM WALKING BY ME WILL KILL HIM. arg this is one of few topics that piss me off. like in davis, ca they tried passing a law saying that if i was smoking in my car with the windows down and my smoke moved by the air goes into anothers car they could sue me for indangering there life. this was like 4 years ago but damn people its ok to be in friggin gridelock traffic with exhaust flying into your car???? makes no sence also davis, ca also has a law that its against the law to detonate a nuclear device who the hell is going to inforce that law??? from 100 miles away after its detonated???if it was untanted tobacco like it was many many years ago its not that bad or addictive. its all the chems they add that are the worst for you.im a curtious smoker though and ask or i will move away and smoke but come up with that weak ass caugh like a little crying baby and smokes in your face. ask nicely or shut up.
That's not the point, it's that people don't -ask- to get their lung(s) full of smoke. That's why it's banned in most bars, they come there to drink, not to inhale powerful cancer agents.
Huzzah, it's nothing against smokers.. I just don't want to be around them when they are smoking. I have a right to breathe air just as you have a right to smoke.
wow I DIDNT KNOW MY LIFE WAS PATHETIC THANK FOR TELLING ME!!!!!
i have fun all day long not self loathing or anything but thanks for judging someone you dont know so blindly.
thats my opinion on the matter
and as for smoke breaks at work 100 persent of all jobs i have worked. smokers take smoke breaks on there 10/15 mins breaks and lunch. they just dont walk out when ever they want a smoke. so no time lost. my god call me a moron for smoking and you dont know break laws or worked somewhere that enforces them. unless companies now dont have 10/15 breaks and lunch now i dont know.
i could careless what people say about me being a smoker but when 51% of americans are still smokers and we get bashed by a small majority i get pissed just like PVPers wanting all out pvp do game companies listen to them no they make games for the majority SO STFU WE ARE THE MAJORITY STILL.
<please god let people who read from now on read into the sarcasm>
You just need to realise one thing, something that goes against what you just said.
You do not like smoking!!!!
You are convincing yourself that you like smoking, you are lying to yourself to satisfy the little demon wich is nicotine.
It is not good.
It does not make you feel better.
It does not make the dinner taste better having ine after a meal, nor so after sex.
Someone who have never smoked would vomit on any of them occasions if they did, had it been good they would not.
Fact of the matter is, all smokers hate it, more so then ever a non-smoker could, we just fooled ourself otherwise.
I had smoked for 17 years, up until 3 months ago when I realised this simple truth.
FFS, this thing is bloody awful in ALL respects!!!
And then I just stopped, and looking back I feel like a complete idiot for falling into the scam and destroying my body for so long, for NO BENEFIT WHAT SO EVER!!!!! There are NONE, nada, and that is the truth smokers deny themself.
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Just quit. That's what I did. I smoked a few cigarettes here and ther afterwards before just not smoking anymore. It's tough and it takes a lot of self control which people are lacking these days. Drinking pop and eating fast food is harder for em to quit. Been doing good lately though, 2 pops in 1 month.
"Government exists to protect us from each other. Where government has gone beyond its limits is in deciding to protect us from ourselves." ~ Ronald Reagan
Originally posted by scaramoosh About 5 packs later
I've decided, smokings just oo good to give up
ur gonna quit trying that easily? that's pathetic.
like so many others have said... There's just no personal benefit. It is a complete waste of money and you get nothing out of it.
I suppose i am being a bit hypocritical when I sit around and play video games for hours on end, I'm not really getting anything out of it (besides fun) but I'm not damaging my body
For all WHO get offended - I HAVE TO DO IT - as a smoker - I JUST CANNOT RESIST -
Originally posted by Darkbeat
There's a few things you gotta think about every time you smoke:
1) Even cig' you've smoked takes away 5-7 mins of your life (excluding the time it takes to smoke)
7 minutes of your life - for each cigarette - off the end of your life - well arent those the worst years of your life you know the diaper wearing, wheel chair going, cant remember when you last had a woody years? Thank you - you can keep those years *Puffs*
2) There's more than 2000 'bad things' in cigs'. (Can't think of a better way to word it)
Yea? And there are more then 2,000,000 bacteria around your house on a daily basis - add the wonder stuff you breath on the way to work in rush hour traffic in your car - HA!
3) Even if you can't smell it, you stink like shit.
.... Cologne, Perfume, and if one goes to bars - except for in NY - does it really matter?
4) It's so damn expensive.
.... Order online - or keep raising our taxes on smokes - see what happens - I will just buy the tobacco on my own - and roll my own for a lot less money - *Puffs again*
5) (Not really when smoking, but more when smoking after the mark where you should quit the cig') Your lungs bleeds for 5 secs.
... Only if it is a Newport - you know the ones with Fiberglass.
These are based upon things people told me.
Finally - ever heard of Jim Fix - you know a runner - Fitness guru - ran all the time, up and down NYC - always running telling people not to smoke, not to eat red meat - know what happened to Jim Fix - He had a Heart Attack - you know when WHILE RUNNING! It was probably a couple of smokers who found the body too - and said - oh look its Jim Fix - yeah lets keep walking.
I would like to thank Dennis Leary for being their during my impressionable teen years - If you are interested please see No Cure for Cancer -
Oh where to begin: DAoC Juansanchez 50 Armsman Igraine - Back from the Grave DAoC Prol 50 Necro Igraine - Back from the Grave CoH Devient 28 Mace/Stone Tank *Retired* WoW Talgar 27 Warrior *Retired* Horizons Goledstadt 35 Dragon *Retired* And many many others in many many games. But I always go back to my home in DAoC
For all WHO get offended - I HAVE TO DO IT - as a smoker - I JUST CANNOT RESIST -
Originally posted by Darkbeat There's a few things you gotta think about every time you smoke: 1) Even cig' you've smoked takes away 5-7 mins of your life (excluding the time it takes to smoke) 7 minutes of your life - for each cigarette - off the end of your life - well arent those the worst years of your life you know the diaper wearing, wheel chair going, cant remember when you last had a woody years? Thank you - you can keep those years *Puffs* 2) There's more than 2000 'bad things' in cigs'. (Can't think of a better way to word it) Yea? And there are more then 2,000,000 bacteria around your house on a daily basis - add the wonder stuff you breath on the way to work in rush hour traffic in your car - HA! 3) Even if you can't smell it, you stink like shit. .... Cologne, Perfume, and if one goes to bars - except for in NY - does it really matter? 4) It's so damn expensive. .... Order online - or keep raising our taxes on smokes - see what happens - I will just buy the tobacco on my own - and roll my own for a lot less money - *Puffs again* 5) (Not really when smoking, but more when smoking after the mark where you should quit the cig') Your lungs bleeds for 5 secs. ... Only if it is a Newport - you know the ones with Fiberglass. These are based upon things people told me.
Finally - ever heard of Jim Fix - you know a runner - Fitness guru - ran all the time, up and down NYC - always running telling people not to smoke, not to eat red meat - know what happened to Jim Fix - He had a Heart Attack - you know when WHILE RUNNING! It was probably a couple of smokers who found the body too - and said - oh look its Jim Fix - yeah lets keep walking.
I would like to thank Dennis Leary for being their during my impressionable teen years - If you are interested please see No Cure for Cancer -
This is going to sound like a smart-a$$ remark but...
Stop smoking. It is the only way to quit. Everytime you think you might want one tell yourself you don't. If you pick one up, put it down. I smoked for 9 years, been quit 6 now, and it is worth it. But don't fool yourself, you will always have a craving sometimes, though not as bad as when you first quit. Just gotta make yourself stop lighting them and smokin' 'em. Cold turkey is the only way to go I think, because the addiction is the hard part to break, and most of the stop-smoking aids are just more nicotine.
You could always take the Crowley approach and cut your arm with a razor every time you think about smoking, it should work, but I don't think it is necessary.
=== like so many others have said... There's just no personal benefit. It is a complete waste of money and you get nothing out of it. ===
I enjoy the taste, and the sensation, and im sure as hell not gonna let the threat of early death scare me away from enjoying my life however i see fit. Yall have fun living in your sterile air-tight rooms for a hundred and fifty years, with your eggplants, rice cakes, and treadmills. By the time im 50, ill be dead. Not just dead, but "50 years of the unbrideled intake of dead animals, tobacco, pepsi, and mind-numbing video games dead."
I always used to say that when i got older, i would stay cool, and follow the trends. But now that the worlds gone soft, and being a pussy is fashinable, i refuse to stay cool. SQUARE FOR LIFE! GET OFF MY LAWN YOU DEGENERATES!
P.S. But if for some reason I did decide to quit, I would just stop. Im not like potheads and drunks, I have enough brainpower to control my own emotions. Unless someone phisicly forces you to smoke, thiers absolutly no excuse in the world for smoking if you dont want to. Well, unless you call being a pussy an excuse.
"It is in your nature to do one thing correctly; Before me, you rightfully tremble. But, fear is not what you owe me. You owe me awe." ~Francis Dolarhyde
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Some larger companies are now refusing to hire smokers, and it's perfectly legal. I think it's a great way to get the message across to ignorant people that smoking is not acceptable anymore.
It is a fact that smokers are less productive than non smokers because of a higher rate of illness and the increased break time they need for their habit.
Smokers also raise health insurance premiums for everyone, because the cost for treating cancer and other smoking related illnesses is spread amongst smokers and non smokers alike.
Smokers are also the worst litterbugs. Why some inconsiderate jerks can't carry a plastic baggy on their person and pick up their butts after putting them out is beyond understanding. Do they really think it's attractive to see cigarette butts all over the ground?
"We feel gold selling and websites that promote it damage games like Vanguard and will do everything possible to combat it."
Brad McQuaid
Chairman & CEO, Sigil Games Online, Inc.
Executive Producer, Vanguard: Saga of Heroes
www.vanguardsoh
Its the same reason behind a heroin addict not throwing away his/her needles when they are done shooting up.They dont care about themselves so why should they care about the world around them.The post i was reponding to was a perfect example.It was a couple of postings above mine.
He smokes to "piss people off".He cares so little about the world around him he wants everyone to hate him as well.Kind of sad really he already hates himself and lashes out at everyone else as well.
Want to ENJOY an mmo?
Dont start a guild and dont be a leader or volunteer to be coleader or captain.
Just play the damn game:)
I can't quit either
But I have some friends that went to the doctor and got some nicotine inhaler that wroked for them
they said it costs around 500 bucks
you should look into that, also there are some anti-depressants that are associated with quitting
good luck, I know I can't do it
Just more hypocritical PC bull. Personally I think that companies should have the right to hire and not hire whoever they damn well please. But the whole fact that you'll get your ass sued off if you don't hire someone for some other reason that deals with their personal life; but then they can do that to smokers?
I think smoking is a nasty, dirty habit. But this whole demonization and boycotting of it, is absurd BS.
Wonder what would happen if they started having commercials against fat/obese people. And companies started not hiring people they deemed as unsuitable because they were too overweight.
Afterall...It can be classified as an unhealthy, addictive disorder.
"Fear not death; for the sooner we die, the longer shall we be immortal."
Yeah but the difference is that an obese person isnt going outside every 30 minutes or so to take a "cupcake"break.Smokers these days tend to rally the wagons and take breaks in groups.Get 5 of them taking a 10 minute break and its 50 minutes of work time lost.Lets say in a best case scenario they take 5 breaks a day and it adds up to 250 minutes right?
Between 5 people its a bit over 4 hours in a 40 hour work week it adds up to 20 hours that 5 people waste for any given company.
Rewarding people would be a better idea than punishing them but that would cost money as well.Most corporate environments will get rid of a negative influence anyway.
Want to ENJOY an mmo?
Dont start a guild and dont be a leader or volunteer to be coleader or captain.
Just play the damn game:)
I NEVER STARTED!
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and you're 14. Don't be too happy yet.
That's not the point, it's that people don't -ask- to get their lung(s) full of smoke. That's why it's banned in most bars, they come there to drink, not to inhale powerful cancer agents.
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Huzzah, it's nothing against smokers.. I just don't want to be around them when they are smoking. I have a right to breathe air just as you have a right to smoke.
wow I DIDNT KNOW MY LIFE WAS PATHETIC THANK FOR TELLING ME!!!!!
i have fun all day long not self loathing or anything but thanks for judging someone you dont know so blindly.
thats my opinion on the matter
and as for smoke breaks at work 100 persent of all jobs i have worked. smokers take smoke breaks on there 10/15 mins breaks and lunch. they just dont walk out when ever they want a smoke. so no time lost. my god call me a moron for smoking and you dont know break laws or worked somewhere that enforces them. unless companies now dont have 10/15 breaks and lunch now i dont know.
i could careless what people say about me being a smoker but when 51% of americans are still smokers and we get bashed by a small majority i get pissed just like PVPers wanting all out pvp do game companies listen to them no they make games for the majority SO STFU WE ARE THE MAJORITY STILL.
About 5 packs later
I've decided, smokings just oo good to give up
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Don't click here...no2
You just need to realise one thing, something that goes against what you just said.
You do not like smoking!!!!
You are convincing yourself that you like smoking, you are lying to yourself to satisfy the little demon wich is nicotine.
It is not good.
It does not make you feel better.
It does not make the dinner taste better having ine after a meal, nor so after sex.
Someone who have never smoked would vomit on any of them occasions if they did, had it been good they would not.
Fact of the matter is, all smokers hate it, more so then ever a non-smoker could, we just fooled ourself otherwise.
I had smoked for 17 years, up until 3 months ago when I realised this simple truth.
FFS, this thing is bloody awful in ALL respects!!!
And then I just stopped, and looking back I feel like a complete idiot for falling into the scam and destroying my body for so long, for NO BENEFIT WHAT SO EVER!!!!! There are NONE, nada, and that is the truth smokers deny themself.
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Originally posted by Jerek_
I wonder if you honestly even believe what you type, or if you live in a made up world of facts.
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"Government exists to protect us from each other. Where government has gone beyond its limits is in deciding to protect us from ourselves." ~ Ronald Reagan
Wife bought me a bottle of "smoke away" and i quit cold turkey. its be on tv a lot google it. it works.
been cig free over a year now. i do have a craving every now and again but I've been hitting the bong like its christmas.
Trees for everybody!!
As someone crazy once said " i smoke cause it gives me knowledge!"
Does bud really make you wiser
Worst thing about quiting smoking is the shock of how truly shitty some of the food you use to love now tastes.
Worst fast food, Mc Donalds. Meat tastes like processed cardboard.
anyhow later.
FoE Fist of the Empire
like so many others have said...
There's just no personal benefit. It is a complete waste of money and you get nothing out of it.
I suppose i am being a bit hypocritical when I sit around and play video games for hours on end, I'm not really getting anything out of it (besides fun) but I'm not damaging my body
Finally - ever heard of Jim Fix - you know a runner - Fitness guru - ran all the time, up and down NYC - always running telling people not to smoke, not to eat red meat - know what happened to Jim Fix - He had a Heart Attack - you know when WHILE RUNNING! It was probably a couple of smokers who found the body too - and said - oh look its Jim Fix - yeah lets keep walking.
I would like to thank Dennis Leary for being their during my impressionable teen years - If you are interested please see No Cure for Cancer -
Oh where to begin:
DAoC Juansanchez 50 Armsman Igraine - Back from the Grave
DAoC Prol 50 Necro Igraine - Back from the Grave
CoH Devient 28 Mace/Stone Tank *Retired*
WoW Talgar 27 Warrior *Retired*
Horizons Goledstadt 35 Dragon *Retired*
And many many others in many many games. But I always go back to my home in DAoC
Finally - ever heard of Jim Fix - you know a runner - Fitness guru - ran all the time, up and down NYC - always running telling people not to smoke, not to eat red meat - know what happened to Jim Fix - He had a Heart Attack - you know when WHILE RUNNING! It was probably a couple of smokers who found the body too - and said - oh look its Jim Fix - yeah lets keep walking.
I would like to thank Dennis Leary for being their during my impressionable teen years - If you are interested please see No Cure for Cancer -
*golf clap*
This is going to sound like a smart-a$$ remark but...
Stop smoking. It is the only way to quit. Everytime you think you might want one tell yourself you don't. If you pick one up, put it down. I smoked for 9 years, been quit 6 now, and it is worth it. But don't fool yourself, you will always have a craving sometimes, though not as bad as when you first quit. Just gotta make yourself stop lighting them and smokin' 'em. Cold turkey is the only way to go I think, because the addiction is the hard part to break, and most of the stop-smoking aids are just more nicotine.
You could always take the Crowley approach and cut your arm with a razor every time you think about smoking, it should work, but I don't think it is necessary.
Good luck to you!
I don't smoke but just try to stop....or this will happen:
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I think self-discipline is all you need..If you really have a self control, you can! Maybe take some candies as a substitute for cigarettes..lol
In my field of paper flowers, candy clouds of lullaby. I lay inside myself for hours, and watch my purple sky fly over me. ~*Evanescence*~
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like so many others have said...
There's just no personal benefit. It is a complete waste of money and you get nothing out of it.
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I enjoy the taste, and the sensation, and im sure as hell not gonna let the threat of early death scare me away from enjoying my life however i see fit. Yall have fun living in your sterile air-tight rooms for a hundred and fifty years, with your eggplants, rice cakes, and treadmills. By the time im 50, ill be dead. Not just dead, but "50 years of the unbrideled intake of dead animals, tobacco, pepsi, and mind-numbing video games dead."
I always used to say that when i got older, i would stay cool, and follow the trends. But now that the worlds gone soft, and being a pussy is fashinable, i refuse to stay cool. SQUARE FOR LIFE! GET OFF MY LAWN YOU DEGENERATES!
P.S. But if for some reason I did decide to quit, I would just stop. Im not like potheads and drunks, I have enough brainpower to control my own emotions. Unless someone phisicly forces you to smoke, thiers absolutly no excuse in the world for smoking if you dont want to. Well, unless you call being a pussy an excuse.
"It is in your nature to do one thing correctly; Before me, you rightfully tremble. But, fear is not what you owe me. You owe me awe." ~Francis Dolarhyde