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So I cannot help but notice this slope going on. Could this be the deal breaker for Guild Wars 2?
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No, they don't. Skill packs are useful only in PvP. The skill packs were there for people who didn't want to play the PvE. Did you also realise that you can only buy the skills packs WITHOUT buying the actual game and you could play PvP? Also GW1 was all about player skill. I can guarantee you that even if you had all the skills unlocked you will still be quite useless in GvG unless you have a lot of experience.
I know that the notion that PvE is not the centre of the world is very hard to swallow for some of the more traditional MMO players but that is the case. GW1 had one of the best PvP systems I've ever seen in a game. I am a bit sceptical that GW2 will give us the same varied and super skill focused experience that GW1 did.
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I am sorry, YOU need extra space and transfer = they are necessarily needed? There are millions more people playing this game. and not everyone need this stuff.
GW2 have no traditional endgames, so tell me how useful exp booster is when there is no need to rush to max level.
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ArenaNet have used exactly the same model in GW1.
The entire way that GW2 is designed is to prevent gear advantages and level the playing field. So why on earth do people think this will lead to 'pay to win'? It won't. ArenaNet likes its games to be eSport-ish. So they wont be ruining that reputation by putting in items that give characters an advantage in PvP.
I guess people don't remember the first 3 or 4 years of GvG in GW1. There were 1 million dollar prize tournaments. So yeas, they do eSPORTS.
Uh because:
a) There are much fewer skills in GW2 and they are much easier to obtain.
b) When you level up to 80 for PvP you gain access to all skills anyway.
Also, the skill packs in GW1 were not pay to win. Pay to win means you get an advantage that cannot be matched by a player who doesnt pay. In fact skills were very easy to obtain in GW1. It took only a few days to progress through the main storyline and unlock 90% of the skills for your profession combo. Or you could skip that and unlock the 8 skills you want to use for your build with a few hours of PvP.
The skill packs were just a convenience item for people who did not want to play the game properly to unlock skills. If players are too lazy to unlock stuff themselves and want to send ArenaNet their money to fund the development of the game, why should I care?
What exactly do you win?
If we take the 'XP-Potions' as an example, and push it to the extreme, what's the difference of you 'buying a max level char' and using 'XP potions'?
I try to avoid games that are on 'slippery slopes' as they tend to slide once they are on the slope but that's just me. vOv.
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why would anyone buy a max level character you'll miss out on the whole game..people who do things like that need to get a life. don't let that ruin your experience who cares what others are doing, just enjoy it on your terms.
If we take the 'XP-Potions' as an example, and push it to the extreme, what's the difference of you 'buying a max level char' and using 'XP potions'? I try to avoid games that are on 'slippery slopes' as they tend to slide once they are on the slope but that's just me. vOv.
why would anyone buy a max level character you'll miss out on the whole game..people who do things like that need to get a life. don't let that ruin your experience who cares what others are doing, just enjoy it on your terms.
People feel that they are being hard done by when people are offered an option that requires less work and requires real life money.
It's like. Why bother wasting your time leveling up to get all the character perks when you can pay X amount and get a max level character!
It's like going into a game. Given two options. The easy breezy route for a fee. Or the route that handicaps your progress whilst other players are speeding by you whilst laughing at you for not choosing the same route as them. Just an example.
People just want to pay one fee and be on the same footing for effort required with out having to be nickle and dime'd to keep up.
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Line is drawn whenever REAL MONEY causes any direct or indirect effect to the expectancy of pure competitiveness from the day the server opens and everyone makes their characters.
I dont care if one player spends 10 hours and another spends 1 hour. Or if one player started to play in the first day and another started playing a year later. Its part of the pureness of competitiveness wich one decide how much time they devote, how they play. If they devote less time and effort INSIDE THE GAME, whatever result comes from it, its their responsability.
Whatever expectancy to compete CAN ONLY BE DERIVED BY TIME AND EFFORT SPENT INSIDE THE GAME, WHILE PLAYING IT.
Now, I have a problem with real money.
IT RUINS GAMES. IT RUINS EXPERIENCES. IT RUINS DESIGNS. AFFECTS EVERYONE INDISTINCTIVELLY.
ITS A PURE FORM OF GREED AND CORRUPTION WITHIN IT.
It cannot cause any effect or be translated in any way to the game experience.
No problem with any individual human factor that can be translated within the game, but not real life money.
Everything you get in the game, YOU HAVE TO EARN IT.
EARN IT INSIDE THE GAME. LIKE EVERYONE ELSE.
Thats the whole premise.
That your material condition and abstraction of human credit does not affects the experience, other than your subjectivity, your soul, whoever you are, your personality, your human factor. THATS THE ESSENCE OF ROLEPLAYING GAMES. THAT ONE SHOULD BE FREE FROM THE MATERIAL BOUNDARIES WHILE EXPERIENCING THE VIRTUAL WORLD.
They corrupted it big time.
Well said. Everything in GW2's cash shop, you can earn it ingame.
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well you don't have to pay anything..and getting those perks in game is much more rewarding than buying them. i don't care if some guy i don't know prefers to buy them instead of working for it..i just know when i get it in game by working for it i'll get that buzz that i accomplished something. thats all that matters to me.
And
EARN IT ONLY INSIDE THE GAME.
Everyone starting from zero, with no external influences.
Ermmmm that is what financial capitalism does, it milks every person for every dollar it can get, irrespective of the social consequences
Did you really believe GW2 existed outside of that system?
if they really wanted to milk players it would be a b2p + sub + cash shop like TSW..thats milking players
No head starts, no pushes, no boosts, no convenience, no skippers, no advantages.
It doesnt matter how you phrase it, how you sugar coat a term and try to make it more palatable, more acceptable.
THE EFFECT IT CAUSES IS THE SAME.
In an ideal world it should have never been allowed in the first place.
It used to be an art form, an emulation of life and society at the palm of our hands, living other roles, other settings, having experiences we would otherwise never had access to before it, there were grandiose principles behind MMORPG designs.
The idea I fell in love with, how quickly it got twisted, destroyed.
Now its corrupted, like everything else in society. You cant barely recognize how things originally were, what things actually meant.
The kids now accept everything that is repeated to them by the media, the industry, the government, etc. Wake up people.
So let me get this straight. You expect people to buy into your theory (that's wrong btw) that exp enhancements somehow give an unfair advantage in a game that levels you down to the zone/dungeon you are in wherever you are at, levels you up to the pvp zone you are at, and only gives you skills via training weapons? Or that an economy well used by games like Eve somehow is wrong and causes a the game developers to be more greedy then say the TSW or WoW stores that charge a monthly sub AND for items in their store? Just wanted to clear that up before moving on.
ah so you really believe it has some moral sentiment, or generosity to the gaming community, outside of the profit mentality? Please try and understand the logic of greed. It is very subtle sometimes.
Greed is consumer based..the reason capitilism works is because people are greedy..its the players fault because they buy into it..you can't blame the devs for trying to make money like every other business on the planet..its the consumers fault because it is they who open their wallets and splash the cash.
ermmmm 90% of the global wealth of the world is now owned by 2% of the population? I blame the capitalists rather than the people. The economic crisis was a product of the capitalist class not the people.
and why are they rich? who buys their products? This has nothing to do with guild wars 2, you are gone way off topic.
Not of topic at all, I stated earlier, GW2 is simply a small part of the capital accumulation system aimed at generating more wealth into the hands of very few people. Therefore one should not expect any morality.
I get it you're a fan of TSW, you criticize guild wars 2 for having a cash shop, but you praise TSW (which has a sub + cash shop) in your posts about that game. That seems a little off don't you think?
I praised TSW for its genuine conceptual innovation and story line. Not for its cash shop.