I cannot wait to go to some other forum and find an english translation of a second-hand account for something overheard in a conference and wave it from of the fans and tell them in no uncertain terms that it is PROOF!
Originally posted by xposeidon Actually Colin replied fixing the statementn to friday, it appears he was trolling, MODS need to update the title and OP and eventually lock this thread, but knowing the moderation in these forums that could take a while if it happens at all.
Moderation will happen "When it's ready". My bet's on 5.5 years or so.
They mod just fine here.
If some of you had your way every opinion and discussion except what fits in your little box would be moderated.
Why not? Everytime you attempt to call out said trolls and flamers you get a warning. ce le vie I say.
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Originally posted by GamerUntouch I'd just like to point out the hilarity of the people (like OP) jumping on this despite saying before this that GW2 has no endgame
No kidding right?
2 weeks ago -- "GW2 doesn't have an endgame, all there is is WvW, so if you want PvE, GW2 will fail in that department" (or something along those lines)
1 week ago -- Silent because they were shown what "endgame" in GW2 will be, and everyone saying "endgame starts at level 1"
Now -- "Even ANet says it's endgame so all you fanbois can stop saying endgame starts at level 1!" Even though his "information" is not from ANet, it's from some random dude who "says" he heard ANet devs talking about this.
Just saying, I think if ANet were talking about it, more than 1 person would be reporting this, then it would be mroe believable.
The "Youtube Pro": Someone who watches video's on said subject, and obviously has a full understanding of what is being said about such subject.
I wish a mod here would do what they did at the Guru and edit the title post as well as put in Colin's comment to make sure to counter these lies and misinformation. No proof = no proof.
Just want to jump on this before it gets out of hand. Pretty much nothing in this post is factually correct, I'm not sure where this information came from but flat out: it's misinformed at best and a lot of it totally false.
We'll absolutely have a GM team that helps support the game at live, the rest of it is partially incorrect information or just plain wrong. You'll start seeing information about our post-ship plans shortly (as early as today on some press sites) but it'll come from developers specifically.
See you in game on Thursday! -Colin
Chill out kiddos.
Ok, good see you on Th....WHAAAA? Thursday?!?!?
He was meant actually on the second thursday from now, the 28th, the release date
tuesday?
Sorry that was a bad joke at attempting to mock the misinformation
Corrected that for you because its the same thing said by devs for every game.
Time for haters to stop saying their game is different or better because they just cant stand the idea of a new game coming out that someone else likes.
- "ANET is not expecting the the end-game to be reachable quickly" <- we all know that's not true.
I also doubt this much, took a guildie of mine 1 BWE to reach lv41 and he wasn't even rushing, he did sleep during the nights.
Not to mention that people reached level 80 during the BWEs. Are we supposed to believe that ArenaNet would be unaware of what levels people got to and how long it took them to get there?
The simple fact is that the development of a MMO being worked on after release is normal, for ALL MMOs that are being supported. So essentially, end game is never 100% complete.
Personally, I don't care either way. It always takes me months to reach the level cap...I play too many alts.
The only important thing for me is how frequently they do content updates (of various types) and fixes.
Even if your endgame is "finished", you don't gain much if you leave it un-updated for months. As long as people know new things are lurking around the corner and you retain a solid interest in those things, they'll stay.
Fixes, well, it should be obvious that you need to be able and fix + update your game with new content at the same time.
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lets be clear about one thing... all the "the end-game starts at level 1" is just fanboi bullshit. You know it, I know it, everyone knows it.
Apparently you never played SWG or UO?
Both games widely considered to not have an "end-game" and thusly "the endgame started at level 1" (even though yes both games had no levels, you get the point lol.)
Those games are straight up sandboxes. Are you serious with this nonsense? Seriously some of the GW2 zealots on this forum are absolutely ridiculous. Why don't ya throw Eve in there too, because that's definitely comparable to what GW2 offers. Have you even played MMOs before, or are you just regurgitating nonsense you read somewhere?
Just want to jump on this before it gets out of hand. Pretty much nothing in this post is factually correct, I'm not sure where this information came from but flat out: it's misinformed at best and a lot of it totally false.
We'll absolutely have a GM team that helps support the game at live, the rest of it is partially incorrect information or just plain wrong. You'll start seeing information about our post-ship plans shortly (as early as today on some press sites) but it'll come from developers specifically.
See you in game on Thursday! -Colin
Chill out kiddos.
Wait. Does this mean that the OP started a thread based on factually inaccurate information in order to denigrate GW2?
Again?
How long do we have to wait before the OP's retraction and apology for creating a frenzy over nothing?
"Loading screens" are not "instances". Your personal efforts to troll any game will not, in fact, impact the success or failure of said game.
- Yes, even Anet calls it endgame. It's time for fanboys to stop saying "the endgame starts at level 2".
- "ANET is not expecting the the end-game to be reachable quickly" <- we all know that's not true.
- scary D3 comparisons
OP: Here is an OFFICIAL answer to your post:
From Collin Johanson:
"Just want to jump on this before it gets out of hand. Pretty much nothing in this post is factually correct, I'm not sure where this information came from but flat out: it's misinformed at best and a lot of it totally false."
Just want to jump on this before it gets out of hand. Pretty much nothing in this post is factually correct, I'm not sure where this information came from but flat out: it's misinformed at best and a lot of it totally false.
We'll absolutely have a GM team that helps support the game at live, the rest of it is partially incorrect information or just plain wrong. You'll start seeing information about our post-ship plans shortly (as early as today on some press sites) but it'll come from developers specifically.
See you in game on Thursday! -Colin
Chill out kiddos.
Wait. Does this mean that the OP started a thread based on factually inaccurate information in order to denigrate GW2?
Again?
How long do we have to wait before the OP's retraction and apology for creating a frenzy over nothing?
You'll have to wait for him to put up a poll asking if they should apologize or not.
Then wait for him to try and claim it all adds up to him not having to apologize, even if 100% voted for him to, perhaps by saying that while they all would like him to apologize they also like when he doesn't, which means 100% in his favor and not 100% against him.
- Yes, even Anet calls it endgame. It's time for fanboys to stop saying "the endgame starts at level 2".
- "ANET is not expecting the the end-game to be reachable quickly" <- we all know that's not true.
- scary D3 comparisons
OP: Here is an OFFICIAL answer to your post:
From Collin Johanson:
"Just want to jump on this before it gets out of hand. Pretty much nothing in this post is factually correct, I'm not sure where this information came from but flat out: it's misinformed at best and a lot of it totally false."
In the other thread, otinanai123 said the following:
"As I said before IMO leakers are more reliable than the developers 5 days before release. There is no way Anet would admit that the endgame isn't done even if it was true. There have been more leakers saying the same things and we can't ignore them forever.
I admit though, I should have added "leak" or "rumor" in the title."
Though I disagree with you otinanai123, about leakers, I am glad that you at least agreed with me about how you should have added "leak" or "rumor" in the title. I guess that's really all I wanted. As to whether or not we should believe leaks, I tend to stay away from them.
End game doesn't have to mean the fun part of the game..
At GW2 u can have fun after lvl 2 and at the journey to the cap level.. after that there has to be some kind of end game content and sure must be fun as well... that end part is not completely finished so dont rush like crazy to the cap level cause u might be dissapointed.. just enjoy the journey! ;-)
Hmm, the OP has already been answered w/ a dev debunking most of it. Might not be a bad idea to lock this one up.
If in 1982 we played with the current mentality, we would have burned down all the pac man games since the red ghost was clearly OP. Instead we just got better at the game.
I think it's because the dev said "almost" all false, and "pretty much" not true.
And the monday at work starts to look like a good one with this posts addition.
Now lets get cracking and take this bad boy to 1000 pages.
The truth may be puzzling. It may take some work to grapple with. It may be counterintuitive. It may contradict deeply held prejudices. It may not be consonant with what we desperately want to be true. But our preferences do not determine what's true.
you guys act like the haters in each game actually come back and admit they were wrong. This goes on here every day with the most nonsense posts throughout all games here . False information is spread daily and if you call them a troll even though you know its false you get a ban.
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I cannot wait to go to some other forum and find an english translation of a second-hand account for something overheard in a conference and wave it from of the fans and tell them in no uncertain terms that it is PROOF!
Why not? Everytime you attempt to call out said trolls and flamers you get a warning. ce le vie I say.
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No kidding right?
2 weeks ago -- "GW2 doesn't have an endgame, all there is is WvW, so if you want PvE, GW2 will fail in that department" (or something along those lines)
1 week ago -- Silent because they were shown what "endgame" in GW2 will be, and everyone saying "endgame starts at level 1"
Now -- "Even ANet says it's endgame so all you fanbois can stop saying endgame starts at level 1!" Even though his "information" is not from ANet, it's from some random dude who "says" he heard ANet devs talking about this.
Just saying, I think if ANet were talking about it, more than 1 person would be reporting this, then it would be mroe believable.
The "Youtube Pro": Someone who watches video's on said subject, and obviously has a full understanding of what is being said about such subject.
See you in game on Friday? But the 3 day head start is not supposed to start until 12:00am PST on Saturday. LOL
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Corrected that for you because its the same thing said by devs for every game.
Time for haters to stop saying their game is different or better because they just cant stand the idea of a new game coming out that someone else likes.
Me too, plus I have a full-time job. :P
The only important thing for me is how frequently they do content updates (of various types) and fixes.
Even if your endgame is "finished", you don't gain much if you leave it un-updated for months. As long as people know new things are lurking around the corner and you retain a solid interest in those things, they'll stay.
Fixes, well, it should be obvious that you need to be able and fix + update your game with new content at the same time.
Feel free to use my referral link for SW:TOR if you want to test out the game. You'll get some special unlocks!
FTFY
Those games are straight up sandboxes. Are you serious with this nonsense? Seriously some of the GW2 zealots on this forum are absolutely ridiculous. Why don't ya throw Eve in there too, because that's definitely comparable to what GW2 offers. Have you even played MMOs before, or are you just regurgitating nonsense you read somewhere?
Wait. Does this mean that the OP started a thread based on factually inaccurate information in order to denigrate GW2?
Again?
How long do we have to wait before the OP's retraction and apology for creating a frenzy over nothing?
"Loading screens" are not "instances".
Your personal efforts to troll any game will not, in fact, impact the success or failure of said game.
OP: Here is an OFFICIAL answer to your post:
http://www.guildwars2guru.com/topic/51308-gamescom-when-its-ready-authenticators-gvg/page__st__270
I guess it´s time for the haters to stfup.
You'll have to wait for him to put up a poll asking if they should apologize or not.
Then wait for him to try and claim it all adds up to him not having to apologize, even if 100% voted for him to, perhaps by saying that while they all would like him to apologize they also like when he doesn't, which means 100% in his favor and not 100% against him.
Apparently an ArenaNet developer has debunked this as pure fiction.
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In the other thread, otinanai123 said the following:
"As I said before IMO leakers are more reliable than the developers 5 days before release. There is no way Anet would admit that the endgame isn't done even if it was true. There have been more leakers saying the same things and we can't ignore them forever.
I admit though, I should have added "leak" or "rumor" in the title."
Though I disagree with you otinanai123, about leakers, I am glad that you at least agreed with me about how you should have added "leak" or "rumor" in the title. I guess that's really all I wanted. As to whether or not we should believe leaks, I tend to stay away from them.
End game doesn't have to mean the fun part of the game..
At GW2 u can have fun after lvl 2 and at the journey to the cap level.. after that there has to be some kind of end game content and sure must be fun as well... that end part is not completely finished so dont rush like crazy to the cap level cause u might be dissapointed.. just enjoy the journey! ;-)
If in 1982 we played with the current mentality, we would have burned down all the pac man games since the red ghost was clearly OP. Instead we just got better at the game.
I think it's because the dev said "almost" all false, and "pretty much" not true.
And the monday at work starts to look like a good one with this posts addition.
Now lets get cracking and take this bad boy to 1000 pages.
The truth may be puzzling. It may take some work to grapple with. It may be counterintuitive. It may contradict deeply held prejudices. It may not be consonant with what we desperately want to be true. But our preferences do not determine what's true.
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