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WvW is just dota with better graphics

lovehina21lovehina21 Member UncommonPosts: 56

Go on youtube and watch ANY gameplay footage of world vs world.

If someone said its dota with better graphics, bigger map, more players, would you believe it?

Thats what i see.

 

Think about it, its true.... its gaint Dota!

= Scent to bed =

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  • niceguy3978niceguy3978 Member UncommonPosts: 2,051
    Originally posted by lovehina21

    Go on youtube and watch ANY gameplay footage of world vs world.

    If someone said its dota with better graphics, bigger map, more players, would you believe it?

    Thats what i see.

     

    Think about it, its true.... its gaint Dota!

    Is that a beer in your hand in your photo?  Were you drinking it when you made this post?

  • DanitaKusorDanitaKusor Member UncommonPosts: 556
    This is bad?

    The Enlightened take things Lightly

  • Kyus_HoBKyus_HoB Member Posts: 185
    its a bit like comparing castle wolfenstein to crysis???
  • lilHealalilHeala Member UncommonPosts: 522

    And your point is?

    It's really tiring to see all these pointless threads of DE's are just copy / paste Rifts or Warhammer PQs, WvW is a Warhammer / DaoC clone (and now dota), it's just a themepark WoW clone with same quests just no NPCs to pick them up etc.

    If GW2 was just a clone of anything else I wouldn't be playing it and I wouldn't have stopped playing those supposedly original games.

  • NaqajNaqaj Member UncommonPosts: 1,673

    2 factions vs. 3 factions

    stricly 5v5 vs. hundreds of players on either side

    team coordination and individual skill vs. large scale logistics, tactics and mobilization

    30 minute matches vs. 2 week battle

     

    Nope, not really seeing it.

  • Loke666Loke666 Member EpicPosts: 21,441
    Originally posted by lilHeala

    If GW2 was just a clone of anything else I wouldn't be playing it and I wouldn't have stopped playing those supposedly original games.

    I would as long as GW2 does it better... And GW2 do indeed take features from other games and polish them up or use them in a new way, nothing wrong with that.

    But WvWvW is more of a cross over between DaoC and GW1 which is a good thing, a really good thing. Those 2 games had the best MMO PvP so far and ANET have taken the best parts from them making it a great experiance.

    DOTA is fun but rather different.I wouldnt complain if GW2 got the same E-sport following as DOTA though.

  • Kyus_HoBKyus_HoB Member Posts: 185
    Originally posted by lilHeala

    WvW is a Warhammer / DaoC clone (and now dota)

    I wish more people would say this followed by, and it works! because there is nothing wrong with a working concotion of those too for world pvp. 

    The constant comparing back to stuff will always happen, everything has been done before. What makes a good game is crafting previous ideas towards one common goal not just sticking them all together. and when you have that framework actually building some quality physical content into that environment both graphically and through the ingame mechanics. Idea's are cheap implementing them well is priceless.

  • nine56nine56 Member UncommonPosts: 208

    I think the OP actually meant the smaller scale pvp, not WvW. It actually does look like DoTA.

    I'm going to tell you this one time, so listen closely. Everything is a remix.

    Source: http://vimeo.com/14912890

  • RaekonRaekon Member UncommonPosts: 532

    I REALLY don't know how someone came make such a comparison. O_o

    WvsWvsW is a huge instance filled with:

    -  dynamic events

    -  npcs you can even win for your side (trolls attacking a keep for you as example)

    -  vistas to explore

    - 3 servers fighting

    - towers, keeps, supply spots  and more.

    Dota is a small map with

    -  a few mobs

    -  around 2 to 4 (depending on the game cause there were several dotalike games out there) linear roads that all lead to the enemy base.

    - 5 vs 5 people (in some similar games even 8vs8 as far as I remember)

  • ButtskiButtski Member UncommonPosts: 187

    totally wrong!

    you can build things in wvw so it's more like tetris! it's a giant tetris clone!

  • otacuotacu Member UncommonPosts: 547
    Think about it, its true.... its giant Metal Gear Solid 1!
  • swarmofsealsswarmofseals Member Posts: 16

    What I don't understand is why people would think WvWvW being a clone of DAoC is a bad thing. I'm not that familiar with DotA so I can't speak to that.

    Many believe DAoC to be the best PvP MMO ever. Others believe that it's the best faction-based PvP MMO ever. IMO, if GW2 actually lives up to that comparison I will be thrilled.

  • mazutmazut Member UncommonPosts: 988
    Exactly its just dota! Move away now
  • GamerUntouchGamerUntouch Member Posts: 488
    Have you played either DOTA OR WvWvW?
  • lilHealalilHeala Member UncommonPosts: 522
    Originally posted by Loke666
    Originally posted by lilHeala

    If GW2 was just a clone of anything else I wouldn't be playing it and I wouldn't have stopped playing those supposedly original games.

    I would as long as GW2 does it better... And GW2 do indeed take features from other games and polish them up or use them in a new way, nothing wrong with that.

    But WvWvW is more of a cross over between DaoC and GW1 which is a good thing, a really good thing. Those 2 games had the best MMO PvP so far and ANET have taken the best parts from them making it a great experiance.

    DOTA is fun but rather different.I wouldnt complain if GW2 got the same E-sport following as DOTA though.

    A commonly used definition for a clone is that it's an (identical else it isn't a) copy or almost identical imitation, so taking features from other games and using them in a new different way isn't covered by that definition. 

    But I do get your point.

    OP's statement would be covered by the definition of clone because he says it's the same with just some different graphics (so an almost identical imitation of the same with just a different skin).

  • VolkonVolkon Member UncommonPosts: 3,748
    Actually it's exactly like TF2, except for bigger, totally different maps, magic added, different combat, different classes, siege weapons, NPCs, mobs, no Medics and no Sandviches (but there are food buffs). Except for the aforementioned list, it's different.

    Oderint, dum metuant.

  • mgilbrtsnmgilbrtsn Member EpicPosts: 3,430
    I never played DOTA, but was it fun??  If so, then I don't mind

    I self identify as a monkey.

  • PrenhoPrenho Member Posts: 298
    Originally posted by wtvr123
    No. It's wintergrasp with 3 factions and bigger maps. 

    This.

  • mazutmazut Member UncommonPosts: 988
    Originally posted by wtvr123
    No. It's wintergrasp with 3 factions and bigger maps. 

    What is wintergrasp??

  • MacecardMacecard Member UncommonPosts: 142
    During the olymipcs, did anyone notice that Tennis is pretty much pong with better graphics?

    If you continue to make sweeping statements like you know what everyone everywhere thinks about a certain topic then I am going to shout at you.
    It easy to type 'I think this is the worst game ever'
    Rather than the 'This is the worst game ever'

  • PrenhoPrenho Member Posts: 298
    Originally posted by mazut
    Originally posted by wtvr123
    No. It's wintergrasp with 3 factions and bigger maps. 

    What is wintergrasp??

    http://www.wowwiki.com/Wintergrasp

  • dzoni87dzoni87 Member Posts: 541
    Originally posted by DanitaKusor
    This is bad?

    ^Same question^

    Main MMO at the moment: Guild Wars 2
    Waiting for: Pathfinder Online

  • lovehina21lovehina21 Member UncommonPosts: 56

    Yes i know its Bigger maps

    i know its 3 teams instead of 2

    No need to state the obious. this is why i said "bigger maps better graphics" Although i did leave the 3 teams instead of 2 out.

     

    Why i think its similar / almost the same is because

    in wvwvw you take smaller posts.   - in dota u take over the tower before reaching the main base

    wvwvw you have lots of players - in dota u have spawned units u fight with

    wvwvw enemy base to destroy - dota game ends when u kill enemy temple

     

    at least dota ends when u kil the base.  there is a clear winner.

    Even the overview of the entire map is like dota style. 

     

    pvp would of been more fun if u let indivudal guilds control castles and let other guilds take it.  Just add an incentive to hold it. Then all the guilds would want one but there is only a limited amount of castles so..........

    let the games begin.

     

    (also you could add a whole other lvl of pvp that only guilds that currently own castles can participate in across all servers)

    = Scent to bed =

  • austriacusaustriacus Member UncommonPosts: 618
    Originally posted by lovehina21

    Yes i know its Bigger maps

    i know its 3 teams instead of 2

    No need to state the obious. this is why i said "bigger maps better graphics" Although i did leave the 3 teams instead of 2 out.

     

    Why i think its similar / almost the same is because

    in wvwvw you take smaller posts.   - in dota u take over the tower before reaching the main base

    wvwvw you have lots of players - in dota u have spawned units u fight with

    wvwvw enemy base to destroy - dota game ends when u kill enemy temple

     

    at least dota ends when u kil the base.  there is a clear winner.

    Even the overview of the entire map is like dota style. 

     

    pvp would of been more fun if u let indivudal guilds control castles and let other guilds take it.  Just add an incentive to hold it. Then all the guilds would want one but there is only a limited amount of castles so..........

    let the games begin.

     

    (also you could add a whole other lvl of pvp that only guilds that currently own castles can participate in across all servers)

    Thats exactly what you can do.

  • mazutmazut Member UncommonPosts: 988
    Originally posted by wtvr123
    Originally posted by mazut
    Originally posted by wtvr123
    No. It's wintergrasp with 3 factions and bigger maps. 

    What is wintergrasp??

    google it -> click on first result

    nah, I dont know it, musnt be something or great importance ;)

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