For months, I've been a fence sitter. I've questioned anything and everything about GW2 I've looked for the good and the bad. I've maintained a healthy skepticism and held my doubts about this game. I've held off from purchasing this game until just this past week.
So why then............
Do I feel like a grade school kid on Christmas Eve with the anticipation of this launch???????
AHHHHH!!!!! HELP!!!!
Well on one hand its a minor expense, and no sub fee means it won't hurt your pocket book any more than buying a single player game.
But on the other hand if you buy it and find you don't like it, you've just rewarded a company for producing a product you don't care for.
Unless you are just bladder bursting anxious for something new to play I'd recommend putting the Kool-aid down and backing away slowly. The game will still be there in a couple of weeks and waiting will let you see how it does in the wild and let you better judge whether you really want to play it or not.
"Twenty twenty twenty four hours to go OH oh, GeezerGamer needs to be sedated..."
"Gypsies, tramps, and thieves, we were called by the Admin of the site . . . "
If you're "scared" you might be disappointed, just cancel and wait 2-3 months. I find it a wise move one way or another. You never lose anything by avoiding a launch and the first weeks or months.
But on the other hand if you buy it and find you don't like it, you've just rewarded a company for producing a product you don't care for.
"Playing the blame game never works. A deep set of research shows that people who blame others for their mistakes lose status, learn less, and perform worse relative to those who own up to their mistakes. Research also shows that the same applies for organizations. Groups and organizations with a rampant culture of blame have a serious disadvantage when it comes to creativity, learning, innovation, and productive risk-taking."-http://blogs.hbr.org/research/2010/05/how-to-stop-the-blame-game.html
When gamers abhor EA for passing the buck, then turn around and pass the blame for the market (to other gamers!) they just show how silly this whole tainted line of reasoning is.
Anyway, carry on GG, put it all on green and spin the wheel. There is no life free of risks, except no life at all.
Self-pity imprisons us in the walls of our own self-absorption. The whole world shrinks down to the size of our problem, and the more we dwell on it, the smaller we are and the larger the problem seems to grow.
Don`t put your hopes high. Will be less disapoineted.
yes but it was clear from the get go SWTOR was bad.. all the videos showed the terrible graphics and the betas proved it and showed how much of a WOW clone it was. Apples and oranges.
I should add that unfortunately many many many SW fans would see reason before release and those of us trying to help.. sorta got slaughtered on the forums.
Uhgg you got slaughtered for the same reason desenters get slaughtered over here, your definition of bad isn't universal. Trying to help? Give me an effin break.
For every minute you are angry , you lose 60 seconds of happiness."-Emerson
Don`t put your hopes high. Will be less disapoineted.
yes but it was clear from the get go SWTOR was bad.. all the videos showed the terrible graphics and the betas proved it and showed how much of a WOW clone it was. Apples and oranges.
I should add that unfortunately many many many SW fans would see reason before release and those of us trying to help.. sorta got slaughtered on the forums.
Uhgg you got slaughtered for the same reason desenters get slaughtered over here, your definition of bad isn't universal. Trying to help? Give me an effin break.
So you remember my posts do you? My initial posts were pointing out how much like wow it was and how poor the graphics were and how disappointed I was.. for that I got called a whore. Totally deserving according to you.
Uhgg you got slaughtered for the same reason desenters get slaughtered over here, your definition of bad isn't universal. Trying to help? Give me an effin break.
So you remember my posts do you? My initial posts were pointing out how much like wow it was and how poor the graphics were and how disappointed I was.. for that I got called a whore. Totally deserving according to you.
Did I say that? No, so again give me an effin break.
For every minute you are angry , you lose 60 seconds of happiness."-Emerson
Uhgg you got slaughtered for the same reason desenters get slaughtered over here, your definition of bad isn't universal. Trying to help? Give me an effin break.
So you remember my posts do you? My initial posts were pointing out how much like wow it was and how poor the graphics were and how disappointed I was.. for that I got called a whore. Totally deserving according to you.
Did I say that? No, so again give me an effin break.
you questioned whether I was trying to help or not and said thats why I was slaughtered.. thats pretty much saying its ok for that treatment. IMO trying to provide an unbiased opinion and comparissons are helpful and I have found many opinions on the forums helpful. So yes I WAS trying to help.. why else would I bother? I am not so 18 yr old kid looking for a high by causing dramam on the forums. I actually give a shit about ppl.
Uhgg you got slaughtered for the same reason desenters get slaughtered over here, your definition of bad isn't universal. Trying to help? Give me an effin break.
So you remember my posts do you? My initial posts were pointing out how much like wow it was and how poor the graphics were and how disappointed I was.. for that I got called a whore. Totally deserving according to you.
Did I say that? No, so again give me an effin break.
you questioned whether I was trying to help or not and said thats why I was slaughtered.. thats pretty much saying its ok for that treatment. IMO trying to provide an unbiased opinion and comparissons are helpful and I have found many opinions on the forums helpful. So yes I WAS trying to help.. why else would I bother? I am not so 18 yr old kid looking for a high by causing dramam on the forums. I actually give a shit about ppl.
No I do not think it's acceptable, nor is the slaughter you were alluding to. I also do not think it's right to tear into a poster for having negative views, I still think it's ridiculous to try over and over again to convince others what they like is bad.
For every minute you are angry , you lose 60 seconds of happiness."-Emerson
Uhgg you got slaughtered for the same reason desenters get slaughtered over here, your definition of bad isn't universal. Trying to help? Give me an effin break.
So you remember my posts do you? My initial posts were pointing out how much like wow it was and how poor the graphics were and how disappointed I was.. for that I got called a whore. Totally deserving according to you.
Did I say that? No, so again give me an effin break.
you questioned whether I was trying to help or not and said thats why I was slaughtered.. thats pretty much saying its ok for that treatment. IMO trying to provide an unbiased opinion and comparissons are helpful and I have found many opinions on the forums helpful. So yes I WAS trying to help.. why else would I bother? I am not so 18 yr old kid looking for a high by causing dramam on the forums. I actually give a shit about ppl.
No I do not think it's acceptable, but nor is the slaughter you were alluding to. I do not think it's right to tear into a poster for having negative views but I also thik it's ridiculous to try over and over again to convince others what they like is bad.
I made perhaps 2 posts before it got ugly... it was actually the reason I wasnt taken seriously when I first started posting here(because of my low post amount).. and perhaps why I was treated so poorly there but then again from what I saw it wasn't just me getting treated so badly for calm posts like my own.
I made perhaps 2 posts before it got ugly... it was actually the reason I wasnt taken seriously when I first started posting here(because of my low post amount).. and perhaps why I was treated so poorly there but then again from what I saw it wasn't just me getting treated so badly for calm posts like my own.
Like I said the same thing happens in this forum, it's all the same thing.... IE people getting overly emotional about opinions, positive or negative.
For every minute you are angry , you lose 60 seconds of happiness."-Emerson
This reminds me of 11-10-11 right before midnight as me and 40 other RPGers/TES lovers sat outside best buy waiting to get in and get the damn thing. Similar conversations were held. "I know how you feel man. I cant wait to get my copy"...and I got a ton of free soda. Took home like 6 cases of coke.
But on the other hand if you buy it and find you don't like it, you've just rewarded a company for producing a product you don't care for.
"Playing the blame game never works. A deep set of research shows that people who blame others for their mistakes lose status, learn less, and perform worse relative to those who own up to their mistakes. Research also shows that the same applies for organizations. Groups and organizations with a rampant culture of blame have a serious disadvantage when it comes to creativity, learning, innovation, and productive risk-taking."-http://blogs.hbr.org/research/2010/05/how-to-stop-the-blame-game.html
When gamers abhor EA for passing the buck, then turn around and pass the blame for the market (to other gamers!) they just show how silly this whole tainted line of reasoning is.
Anyway, carry on GG, put it all on green and spin the wheel. There is no life free of risks, except no life at all.
Sorry but bullshit argument on your part. Main reason? This post was aimed only at GeezerGamer, who has been highly critical of this game (and A-net) for quite awhile. And now seems to be getting excited about the game not because of its features but because of the hysteria surrounding it making him anxious he might be missing out on something. Which has the potential to lead to him feeling he was ripped off, when it was really his own lack of self control that made him buy a game he has seemed to dislike for the past few months, and not A-nets.
As to the whole "stop blaming the consumer" argument, that's really a topic for another thread. But I will say that yes the consumer does hold some of the responisbility for the kinds of games that are marketed, and if some continue to purchase games they don't really like due to boredom or just lack of self restraint, then they do hold at least some of the blame for companies continuing to make games that aren't really what they want, so profitable.
"Gypsies, tramps, and thieves, we were called by the Admin of the site . . . "
Originally posted by Tardcore But on the other hand if you buy it and find you don't like it, you've just rewarded a company for producing a product you don't care for.
"Playing the blame game never works. A deep set of research shows that people who blame others for their mistakes lose status, learn less, and perform worse relative to those who own up to their mistakes. Research also shows that the same applies for organizations. Groups and organizations with a rampant culture of blame have a serious disadvantage when it comes to creativity, learning, innovation, and productive risk-taking."-http://blogs.hbr.org/research/2010/05/how-to-stop-the-blame-game.htmlWhen gamers abhor EA for passing the buck, then turn around and pass the blame for the market (to other gamers!) they just show how silly this whole tainted line of reasoning is.Anyway, carry on GG, put it all on green and spin the wheel. There is no life free of risks, except no life at all.
Sorry but bullshit argument on your part. Main reason? This post was aimed only at GeezerGamer, who has been highly critical of this game (and A-net) for quite awhile. And now seems to be getting excited about the game not because of its features but because of the hysteria surrounding it making him anxious he might be missing out on something. Which has the potential to lead to him feeling he was ripped off, when it was really his own lack of self control that made him buy a game he has seemed to dislike for the past few months, and not A-nets.
As to the whole "stop blaming the consumer" argument, that's really a topic for another thread. But I will say that yes the consumer does hold some of the responisbility for the kinds of games that are marketed, and if some continue to purchase games they don't really like due to boredom or just lack of self restraint, then they do hold at least some of the blame for companies continuing to make games that aren't really what they want, so profitable.
Yes, my history indicated skepticism around GW2. I never said this game sucks or said that I wouldn't like it. Only because of my lack of faith in anything Corporate America has to offer did I hold my self off. But if you read into the thread, I explain what changed my mind. It wasn't mass hysteria.
If I put this game down feeling ripped off, I'll have no one to blame but myself. I know that, There's no one here that I can point a finger at. And no one pointed a gun to my head forcing me to buy it. I bought it on my own based on what I consider to be an informed decision after I saw some evidence that reassured me of one of my main doubts.
I will also admit, that I've begun to allow myself a sliver of belief that maybe there is something here.
If I put this game down feeling ripped off, I'll have no one to blame but myself. I know that, There's no one here that I can point a finger at. And no one pointed a gun to my head forcing me to buy it. I bought it on my own based on what I consider to be an informed decision after I saw some evidence that reassured me of one of my main doubts.
“I'd rather be strongly wrong than weakly right.” ? Tallulah Bankhead
Self-pity imprisons us in the walls of our own self-absorption. The whole world shrinks down to the size of our problem, and the more we dwell on it, the smaller we are and the larger the problem seems to grow.
Originally posted by GeezerGamerIf I put this game down feeling ripped off, I'll have no one to blame but myself. I know that, There's no one here that I can point a finger at. And no one pointed a gun to my head forcing me to buy it. I bought it on my own based on what I consider to be an informed decision after I saw some evidence that reassured me of one of my main doubts.
I'd rather be strongly wrong than weakly right.? Tallulah Bankhead
It's a good catch phrase. But I'm not sure I personally subscribe to it.
Seems to me, that would just make me an ignorant fool instead of moderately informed.
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Well on one hand its a minor expense, and no sub fee means it won't hurt your pocket book any more than buying a single player game.
But on the other hand if you buy it and find you don't like it, you've just rewarded a company for producing a product you don't care for.
Unless you are just bladder bursting anxious for something new to play I'd recommend putting the Kool-aid down and backing away slowly. The game will still be there in a couple of weeks and waiting will let you see how it does in the wild and let you better judge whether you really want to play it or not.
"Twenty twenty twenty four hours to go OH oh, GeezerGamer needs to be sedated..."
"Gypsies, tramps, and thieves, we were called by the Admin of the site . . . "
FOR BATMAN HAULING ASS FOR LIKE 20 MINUTES THAT BOMB HAD A REALLY LONG FUSE O.0
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"Playing the blame game never works. A deep set of research shows that people who blame others for their mistakes lose status, learn less, and perform worse relative to those who own up to their mistakes. Research also shows that the same applies for organizations. Groups and organizations with a rampant culture of blame have a serious disadvantage when it comes to creativity, learning, innovation, and productive risk-taking."-http://blogs.hbr.org/research/2010/05/how-to-stop-the-blame-game.html
When gamers abhor EA for passing the buck, then turn around and pass the blame for the market (to other gamers!) they just show how silly this whole tainted line of reasoning is.
Anyway, carry on GG, put it all on green and spin the wheel. There is no life free of risks, except no life at all.
Self-pity imprisons us in the walls of our own self-absorption. The whole world shrinks down to the size of our problem, and the more we dwell on it, the smaller we are and the larger the problem seems to grow.
THAT WAS EPIC!
+1
Uhgg you got slaughtered for the same reason desenters get slaughtered over here, your definition of bad isn't universal. Trying to help? Give me an effin break.
For every minute you are angry , you lose 60 seconds of happiness."-Emerson
So you remember my posts do you? My initial posts were pointing out how much like wow it was and how poor the graphics were and how disappointed I was.. for that I got called a whore. Totally deserving according to you.
Did I say that? No, so again give me an effin break.
For every minute you are angry , you lose 60 seconds of happiness."-Emerson
you questioned whether I was trying to help or not and said thats why I was slaughtered.. thats pretty much saying its ok for that treatment. IMO trying to provide an unbiased opinion and comparissons are helpful and I have found many opinions on the forums helpful. So yes I WAS trying to help.. why else would I bother? I am not so 18 yr old kid looking for a high by causing dramam on the forums. I actually give a shit about ppl.
No I do not think it's acceptable, nor is the slaughter you were alluding to. I also do not think it's right to tear into a poster for having negative views, I still think it's ridiculous to try over and over again to convince others what they like is bad.
For every minute you are angry , you lose 60 seconds of happiness."-Emerson
I made perhaps 2 posts before it got ugly... it was actually the reason I wasnt taken seriously when I first started posting here(because of my low post amount).. and perhaps why I was treated so poorly there but then again from what I saw it wasn't just me getting treated so badly for calm posts like my own.
Like I said the same thing happens in this forum, it's all the same thing.... IE people getting overly emotional about opinions, positive or negative.
For every minute you are angry , you lose 60 seconds of happiness."-Emerson
Sorry but bullshit argument on your part. Main reason? This post was aimed only at GeezerGamer, who has been highly critical of this game (and A-net) for quite awhile. And now seems to be getting excited about the game not because of its features but because of the hysteria surrounding it making him anxious he might be missing out on something. Which has the potential to lead to him feeling he was ripped off, when it was really his own lack of self control that made him buy a game he has seemed to dislike for the past few months, and not A-nets.
As to the whole "stop blaming the consumer" argument, that's really a topic for another thread. But I will say that yes the consumer does hold some of the responisbility for the kinds of games that are marketed, and if some continue to purchase games they don't really like due to boredom or just lack of self restraint, then they do hold at least some of the blame for companies continuing to make games that aren't really what they want, so profitable.
"Gypsies, tramps, and thieves, we were called by the Admin of the site . . . "
Yes, my history indicated skepticism around GW2. I never said this game sucks or said that I wouldn't like it. Only because of my lack of faith in anything Corporate America has to offer did I hold my self off. But if you read into the thread, I explain what changed my mind. It wasn't mass hysteria.
If I put this game down feeling ripped off, I'll have no one to blame but myself. I know that, There's no one here that I can point a finger at. And no one pointed a gun to my head forcing me to buy it. I bought it on my own based on what I consider to be an informed decision after I saw some evidence that reassured me of one of my main doubts.
I will also admit, that I've begun to allow myself a sliver of belief that maybe there is something here.
“I'd rather be strongly wrong than weakly right.”
? Tallulah Bankhead
Self-pity imprisons us in the walls of our own self-absorption. The whole world shrinks down to the size of our problem, and the more we dwell on it, the smaller we are and the larger the problem seems to grow.
It's a good catch phrase.
But I'm not sure I personally subscribe to it.
Seems to me, that would just make me an ignorant fool instead of moderately informed.