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whats boring about level 80
MMOExposed
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this is my opinion, but whats boring about getting to level 80, is that most likely you seen most of the game world.
rolling alts feels like a even larger grind now going through stuff you already did.
WvW feels boring because usually you have to wait in a 6 hour queue just to start playing it, which by the time you get in, you are tired from the Dynamic Event zerg grinding.
I havnt played SPvP at all, since I didnt like it back in beta. hate that kind of PvP.
the game at 80 just doesnt seem very interesting. I suggest Anet add more WvW maps so queue can go down.
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That's wrong. I'm level 60 and I know for a fact that I missed a whole bunch of zones as I was leveling up. As you can see in the link I provided, each level range has multiple zones (about 3-4 per) and each zone can get you out of the level range, so you can potentially level around 2-3 characters and experience mostly new content.
In other words, you're severely misinformed.
No that's not wrong.
I have already been to every zone. Just on one character.
In other words you are misinformed on your opinion of what people have done. Not all of us have skipped or missed zones.
I'm curious, why is it so hard for you to post something genuinely positive about ANYTHING? Seriously all the posts you start are either highly controversal or just outright game bashing. Is there nothing you actually enjoy about this genre? And if the answer is no why even post on a site devoted to MMORPG fans? Are you a masochist?
A level 80 is severely misinformed about content at level 80? .. and you're only 60 saying he's severely misinformed?
Don't get me wrong. I've found everything about GW2 very entertaining, but I wouldn't try and tell a level 80 how the gameplay at level 80 is when I'm not even there yet.
Adding more WvW maps is not a solution, as there are server wide advantages tight to the WvW wins.
They should however add some more semi open world PvP thats comparable to a WvWvW setting.
You could have single zones put at war, with 3 factions, sieges and more... kind of WvWvW overflow without the bonusses, and abuse the normal world zones for that.
Anet allready have proven to have a system that allows them to convert zones intoo anything they want.
As allways however its the hardcores claiming they run out of content. Most people are not even half way down their first characters leveling experience, thats the people Anet has to concentrate on. As as allways the hardcores will leave and move on. They are not representative for the major player population.
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Obviously he is... Because he doesnt recognise the lower level content and so he obviously missed out much of the game, its not his game, let him move on to another game, nothing lost.
Really there is truckloads of content. But none with a carrot on a stick.. he just loves carrots to much
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Did you do this while levelling, or have you reached 80 first then decided to complete your map to 100%? Is it possible to reach 80 at the same pace as map completion? I always believed you'll get to 80 first before completing the world map. How exactly were you able to do it?
The only reason to go to and explore every zone is if you're going for the 100% map exploration, which is not required to reach level 80.
Most eighties have already seen most of the content by the time they hit 80. Nothing you have said changes that or the fact that rerolling is going to have you replaying most of the content you level with.
You can very easily reach 80 without completing the majority of the maps. I dont think he knows the difference between going to a zone vs completing everything there is to do in a zone.
Funny, I'm level 80. I hit level 80 before I even visited the 75+ zones (there's at least 2) and I have several whole maps I've yet to step foot in. I've yet to max a craft, I only just tonight started PvP, I haven't played with the mystic forge, the only dungeon I've done is AC, and the only storyline I've completed is the human one (I chose Priory, there's 2 other factions and several ways to end the storyline I'll be exploring on alts as well). Not a single person in my guild who's 80, and there are many, has "seen most of the content by the time they hit 80", not that that's necessary to point out since you have nothing to base that on when you say "most eighties". Want to pull anything else from your tush?
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I wish I had this magical ability to know why everyone does or doesn't do something. I'm jealous. No, really.
Yes, he is misinformed because while getting to level 60, I completely missed a whole lot of zones.
Here are the zones I have leveled in.
1-15 Metrica Province (which still leaves Plains of Ashford, Qeensdale, Caledon Forest and Wayfarer Foothills)
15-25 Brisban Wildlands (still leaves Diessa Plateau, Snowden Drifts)
15-25 Kessex Hills. (still leaves Diessa Plateau, Snowden Drifts)
25-35 Gendarran Fields (still leaves Fields of Ruin Lornar's Pass)
35-45 Harathi Hinterlands (Blazeridge Steppes, Iron Marches, Timberline Falls)
40-50 Dredgehaunt Cliffs (Blazeridge Steppes, Iron Marches, Timberline Falls)
45-55 Bloodtide Coast finishing it now.
There is some overlap in the level ranges but I'm sure that you can see how I still have a whole bunch of zones per each level range to level up alts in and experience different content.
Wrong.
"Most" level 80's I know did crafting which skips other content.
"Most" level 80's I know did WVW which skips other content.
"Most" level 80's I know perhaps farmed mobs for bonus exp which skips other content.
"Most" level 80's I know only had around 30% of the map explored.
"Most" level 80's I know haven't even done all the dungeons.
And yes, I'm using "most" in the same context as you.
And ofc by "most" I mean me.
My point is that one does not have to play in every single zone to get to level 80 and there are multiple paths available for alts. The only way one would not have any more unique PvE content for an alt is if he or she did the 100% map exploration achievement.
In other words, the game is not like TSW or SWTOR where every one of your characters will follow the same leveling path, GW2 has many zones per level range and most have enough content to take you out of that level range.
I do actually play GW2 also, and I am seeking out and exploring every zone on one character, and I'm not doing it for 100% completion either. Just doing it for the hell of it because I find it fun, but after I do all that I have no idea if I will be totally bored when I hit 80. So I give someone the benefit of the doubt if they find it boring and don't specify exactly what they finished so far.
You can take that whole list and reverse everything you said for myself and every 80 in my guild. In fact my guild leader has 100% map completion
He never said someone might not do it for fun, the context of his argument was in regards to the necessity of the zones, i.e., it's fully possible to hit 80 before seeing everything. Further, the original poster claimed to see everything by 80, so there's no benefit of the doubt to give. Was this really an argument worth having?
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But that's the point though. You explore every zone because you want to, not because the game forces you too. You have a choice to level up in a number of zones and if you want to experience all of them on one character, doesn't mean that the game lacks content for alts. Just means that instead of saving the content for an alt, you chose to explore it all on one character.
Been at work lately, so haven't really had much time to play, but I'm level 62 and have seen about 25% of the world.
I can't imagine it would take me more (potentially) than 1-2 days to get lvl 80, don't think I'm magically going up to 100% in that timespan. I did a bit of everything, haven't really bothered with completing the map because I want to save up some spoiler-free exploration space for after lvl 80.
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We're talking about two different things, and if I didn't think the argument was worth having, I wouldn't have had it, now would I? Dumb question, but it's not worth continuing when it's just people on different wavelengths and this could go on all night.
Sure I and every person from my guild who is 80, has done most of the content already. Some of these zones we did see after 80. I've already maxed tailoring and have cooking at 300+.
The storyline is only diverse for the first few levels. At which point it is the same story.
If I stopped playing my character at eighty I might not have seen all the content. However playing for a couple of days afterwards quickly remedies the situation.
So you were able to do all 3 orders on one character as well as all of the whole racial sympathy for all 4 minor races, including the one that's not available to your race? Amazing.