You hated questing, You wanted something other than the trinity, you hated Raids and you wanted 3 faction pvp.
A-net gives it to you and what do you do?
You cry for the trinity, you cry for quests, you cry for raiding, you cry for fair small scale pvp...
Over the last half decade one thing can be said about the mmo player community.
YOU HAVE NO IDEA WHAT YOU WANT!
The community is filled with a bunch of burnt out people all wanting to play that perfect game that only exists in their head.
Or, maybe GW2 is a game that made all kinds of promises and few deliveries. This site is full of Fans who blame the players when just maybe, the game really doesn't deliver. At least not in a way that works as well.
Or perhaps you are speculating and want it to fail. Folks like you kind of scare me in that it seems as if it makes you feel good to see something fail. Disturbing.
Personally I just go into game and play with others and have fun. You can spread doom and gloom if you like, but the game is top entertainment for $60.
I don't know from where you got that he wants GW2 to fail.
You hated questing, You wanted something other than the trinity, you hated Raids and you wanted 3 faction pvp.
A-net gives it to you and what do you do?
You cry for the trinity, you cry for quests, you cry for raiding, you cry for fair small scale pvp...
Over the last half decade one thing can be said about the mmo player community.
YOU HAVE NO IDEA WHAT YOU WANT!
The community is filled with a bunch of burnt out people all wanting to play that perfect game that only exists in their head.
Or, maybe GW2 is a game that made all kinds of promises and few deliveries. This site is full of Fans who blame the players when just maybe, the game really doesn't deliver. At least not in a way that works as well.
Or perhaps you are speculating and want it to fail. Folks like you kind of scare me in that it seems as if it makes you feel good to see something fail. Disturbing.
Personally I just go into game and play with others and have fun. You can spread doom and gloom if you like, but the game is top entertainment for $60.
Or maybe you are reading into my post what you want to read into it. You are twising my words. I said, maybe it's the game and not the players. Which has nothing to do with wanting it to fail.
don't see how a handfull of complainers on a website speak for the game as a whole and again ill go by what I see in game people seem very pleased with the game so far:)
I angered the clerk in a clothing shop today. She asked me what size I was and I said actual, because I am not to scale. I like vending machines 'cause snacks are better when they fall. If I buy a candy bar at a store, oftentimes, I will drop it... so that it achieves its maximum flavor potential. --Mitch Hedberg
You hated questing, You wanted something other than the trinity, you hated Raids and you wanted 3 faction pvp.
A-net gives it to you and what do you do?
You cry for the trinity, you cry for quests, you cry for raiding, you cry for fair small scale pvp...
Over the last half decade one thing can be said about the mmo player community.
YOU HAVE NO IDEA WHAT YOU WANT!
The community is filled with a bunch of burnt out people all wanting to play that perfect game that only exists in their head.
Or, maybe GW2 is a game that made all kinds of promises and few deliveries. This site is full of Fans who blame the players when just maybe, the game really doesn't deliver. At least not in a way that works as well.
Or perhaps you are speculating and want it to fail. Folks like you kind of scare me in that it seems as if it makes you feel good to see something fail. Disturbing.
Personally I just go into game and play with others and have fun. You can spread doom and gloom if you like, but the game is top entertainment for $60.
Or maybe you are reading into my post what you want to read into it. You are twising my words. I said, maybe it's the game and not the players. Which has nothing to do with wanting it to fail.
Then I apologize and hope I'm wrong. It just seem from previous posts that you are happy with games failing. /shrug
Death is nothing to us, since when we are, Death has not come, and when death has come, we are not.
Then I apologize and hope I'm wrong. It just seem from previous posts that you are happy with games failing. /shrug
What I complain about has more to do with the dynamic that has een going on. Again, going back to my post. I find it irritating that people cannot be objective. It may not seem that way, but I really can be. But If I post something that is what I feel a legit complaint (Or anyone else for that matter) and then to be told that "You don't know what you want"! I say that is BS. If someone feels they didn't get what they wanted, and for other peopel to say "What more do you want?" They operate under the assumption that GW2 was delivered complete and totally according to the pre release hype and it clearly wasn't So people speak out. It's not wanting the game to fail. And it;s NOT the player's fault. That's what I am going on about. My (and other's) rights to speak our minds if we feel to do so.
I started an Emementalist 2 days ago on a "Full" server. Don't know what "Full" means but there were 2 people in the starter tutorial. Moving on from there, after the tutorial, I started Queensdale. There were 3 other players including myself wandering from DE to DE. Of course there was the train of a dzn Rangers and their bears running the same circle over and over.
funny i just started a human as well.. and in Rall saw no bots in queensdale but plenty of groups around like shown in the videos above.. but again like you say guess everyone sees what they want to see
I angered the clerk in a clothing shop today. She asked me what size I was and I said actual, because I am not to scale. I like vending machines 'cause snacks are better when they fall. If I buy a candy bar at a store, oftentimes, I will drop it... so that it achieves its maximum flavor potential. --Mitch Hedberg
I started an Emementalist 2 days ago on a "Full" server. Don't know what "Full" means but there were 2 people in the starter tutorial. Moving on from there, after the tutorial, I started Queensdale. There were 3 other players including myself wandering from DE to DE. Of course there was the train of a dzn Rangers and their bears running the same circle over and over.
funny i just started a human as well.. and in Rall saw no bots in queensdale but plenty of groups around like shown in the videos above.. but again like you say guess everyone sees what they want to see
The ranger/bear bots are so damn irritating. We have a ton of them on Tarnished Coast. I would think it would be in Anet's best interest to keep banning them as quickly as possible, because each one means a new copy of the game sold when the bot account is replaced. Hell of a way to increase box sales. ;-)
Our server frequently marks as full, but often the starter zones can be quiet, the Asura one seems very empty of late, not like zero people or anything, but definitely having a hard time doing some of the DEs, which is a problem I worried about from the moment I heard about the DEs. That said, the Norn and human starting areas are still packed.
Then I apologize and hope I'm wrong. It just seem from previous posts that you are happy with games failing. /shrug
What I complain about has more to do with the dynamic that has een going on. Again, going back to my post. I find it irritating that people cannot be objective. It may not seem that way, but I really can be. But If I post something that is what I feel a legit complaint (Or anyone else for that matter) and then to be told that "You don't know what you want"! I say that is BS. If someone feels they didn't get what they wanted, and for other peopel to say "What more do you want?" They operate under the assumption that GW2 was delivered complete and totally according to the pre release hype and it clearly wasn't So people speak out. It's not wanting the game to fail. And it;s NOT the player's fault. That's what I am going on about. My (and other's) rights to speak our minds if we feel to do so.
You are right.
Death is nothing to us, since when we are, Death has not come, and when death has come, we are not.
Then I apologize and hope I'm wrong. It just seem from previous posts that you are happy with games failing. /shrug
What I complain about has more to do with the dynamic that has een going on. Again, going back to my post. I find it irritating that people cannot be objective. It may not seem that way, but I really can be. But If I post something that is what I feel a legit complaint (Or anyone else for that matter) and then to be told that "You don't know what you want"! I say that is BS. If someone feels they didn't get what they wanted, and for other peopel to say "What more do you want?" They operate under the assumption that GW2 was delivered complete and totally according to the pre release hype and it clearly wasn't So people speak out. It's not wanting the game to fail. And it;s NOT the player's fault. That's what I am going on about. My (and other's) rights to speak our minds if we feel to do so.
You are right.
I know I come across as Anti-GW2. And in many ways, I am disappointed. But not so much that I don't still play the game. My presence here is more or less in response to what I read. And maybe it's my fault, when I read something I agree with, I'll say to myself, Yeah, that's right. and I move on. But when I see something I don't, I call it out. And that tends to put me more on the "at odds" side of the line. But I do recognize a lot of the good things in the game. But to me, I'd call it more of a MMOG than an MMORPG.
I agree with your (the op) first point, but the rest of it is really just your personal taste. There are things I don't like oe wish GW@ had, but apples to apples it's the most enjoyable, put together MMO have played in a decade.
Then I apologize and hope I'm wrong. It just seem from previous posts that you are happy with games failing. /shrug
What I complain about has more to do with the dynamic that has een going on. Again, going back to my post. I find it irritating that people cannot be objective. It may not seem that way, but I really can be. But If I post something that is what I feel a legit complaint (Or anyone else for that matter) and then to be told that "You don't know what you want"! I say that is BS. If someone feels they didn't get what they wanted, and for other peopel to say "What more do you want?" They operate under the assumption that GW2 was delivered complete and totally according to the pre release hype and it clearly wasn't So people speak out. It's not wanting the game to fail. And it;s NOT the player's fault. That's what I am going on about. My (and other's) rights to speak our minds if we feel to do so.
You are right.
I know I come across as Anti-GW2. And in many ways, I am disappointed. But not so much that I don't still play the game. My presence here is more or less in response to what I read. And maybe it's my fault, when I read something I agree with, I'll say to myself, Yeah, that's right. and I move on. But when I see something I don't, I call it out. And that tends to put me more on the "at odds" side of the line. But I do recognize a lot of the good things in the game. But to me, I'd call it more of a MMOG than an MMORPG.
Well thats why the R is in there. I think we as the players need to take on the role part and not the developers. ArenaNet gave us an awesome foundation to play but folks want to rush to the end and then complain.
I do see your points and will read them more openly now! /salute
Death is nothing to us, since when we are, Death has not come, and when death has come, we are not.
Take it easy. OP made some constructive criticism of the game as a player. He is not trolling or dissing the game out of hand. Imo his remarks are well thought out and sucintlly presented. You have to give him that even if you' do not agree with his views.
As for "they have all been mentioned before," well he made an effort to place them in the same place and define them, according to his viewpoint.
Do please show some respect and be civil. And this is coming from a GW2 fan who believes the game to be the best mmo ever, but which does automatically mean that I think it is perfect with all the features coming direct from asses of angels with nothing left to do but praise the glory of genius which made this miracle come to be. Get real, the game is great but it can be greater. Be nice and constructive. Peace.
my only major complaint that grates on me with gw2 is all the people who dont play and hate the game who keep posing about why they hate teh game and that the games dieing due to some bs like xfire numbers....
my secondary complaint is that the game needs optimized better, but, thats a given the games only been out a few months.....annoying but expected.....and still better then WoW when it was this old.
I think most of us can say that GW 2 is really good but for me it is still lacking to become great and here is a list of things which I think holds it back.
S-PvP. Easiest the biggest dissapointment in the game as you would expect a game called GUILD Wars to be centered around PvP between guilds. However that is hardly the case. The PvP comes in two forms, one is a completely separate meta-game called structured PvP which is basically a MOBA variant in MMORPGs. I tried it and it does not come near the fun of League of Legends and as it is separate from the rest of the game feel misplaced. Would much be better if it was something like in Warhammer Online, giving you an alternate route to advance your character.
WvWvW PvP. Three "faction" World vs World PvP sounds great on the paper. Unfourtunately since all servers share the same factions it just feels bland. In DAoC I could see the distinction between say the Albions and the Viking faction (forgot the name) but in GW 2 they are all the same. More over, the PvP is pointless as the bonuses are small and you dont really need them so when you take over a keep you really dont care as you know it will be lost by the next day. They need to add more meaning and persistance to it and specially they need to make it more important for guilds to hold a keep.
No endgame. Apparently the idea in GW 2 is that end-game starts at level 2. Unfourtunately that means that there wont be much of an endgame once you cap your character as they have, more or less removed the gear grind as legendary weapons are exactly the same as exotics. So that is great, gear grind is no fun, but they have replaced ith with uhm... nothing.
Dynamic Events are circular. Don't really matter when you finish one as they just go around and around in an endless cycles. They should be more complex and more persistant, maybe even resulting in an invasion of capital cities. For example there is a big dragon in the lvl 75-80 arctic zone which spawns, gets zerg-killed and respawns in an endless cycle. Have never seen what happens if it does not get zerg-killed but I imagine it would just sit there until it is.
Anyway my 2 pennies why I think GW 2 is not the great MMORPG I expected it to be.
I agree with you on all four points, and i am a rabid GW2 fanboi.
However, the good news is that all the current flaws you listed can be fixed without compromising the core game which is rock solid, from what I can see. Here are my suggestions, if anyone cares to read em.
1) Do give us XP in sPvP. WAR had this and it worked perfectly. There is no reason why this shouldn't be so and there is no concievable downside to it. This would make leveling alts a viable proposition for a huge number of people and massively increase the game's longevity with a relatively cheap and easy hot fix.
2) There won't be any factions, that's fer sure, but ANet could easily work on Realm Pride and better incentives for guilds and keep holding. Again, WAR's experience should be studied very closely because many of the problems surfacing now initially showed up in WAR as well... and were solved eventually. My suggestions:
a) Make keeps produce influence for the guild which claims it. Steady ticks + bonuses for succesful defense. Make guild claiming be a blind bid affair where guilds invest their influence and have an investment in holding onto their keeps.
b) Have keeps make money for the guilds. Open vendors in keeps which sell uniques stuff and vendor items with guilds getting percentage from all sales.
c) stupid PvE bnuses are boring and bland. No one gives a f about them. Have WvW actions activate PvE world events. Hold onto that central castle for a full day and something wonderful happens in your world.
3) There is an endgame, but what is missing are SPECIFIC goals players can pursue beyond level 80. Legendary grind is just that - legendary grind. The whole game needs a serious overhaul vis-a-vis rewards. Introduce upgraded weapon skills that can be unlocked only by performing very specific actions, such as killing all champion mobs in a particular region, that kind of thing. This whole system with karma and skill points being able to buy anything is making the game look very bland which it definitely is not. There is no particular reason why a player would go in one direction and not another. SPECIFIC REWARDS for SPECIFIC ACTIONS would enable players to go on "epic quests" of their own choosing. Imo ANet made a huge mistake when they replaced the GW1 skill acquisition system with this supermarket thing they have now. Thankfully, it's not too late to fix this.
4) Again, they went a bit too far in making the game "accessible." Some DEs should be put on much much longer timers, the current "dragon timers" are ridiculous. Hopefully, these things will get sorted out as the DE system matures.
+1
Though for me the game is great, so it's really what makes GW2 not being great to you Yamota, however I agree with you on the points because game isn't perfect.
Now I will say for number 3 isn't that bad IMO, because endgame for [me] isn't an issue. Though I can see that being an issue for guys like [you].
Number 4 I agree with but since I don't play games 24/7 it isn't that apparent to [me], but I'm sure it is to guys like [you].
Also the dragon timers, I agree they should change the times or something and I think the fights should get harder. Jormags claw seems to be the hardest, where as Teq is the easiest, and IMO Shatterer is the funnest(because he actually looks cool IMO).
Anyway enjoy life fellas and peace.
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Common Sense Logic = P2P logic is no better than F2P Logic.
I think most of us can say that GW 2 is really good but for me it is still lacking to become great and here is a list of things which I think holds it back.
S-PvP. Easiest the biggest dissapointment in the game as you would expect a game called GUILD Wars to be centered around PvP between guilds. However that is hardly the case. The PvP comes in two forms, one is a completely separate meta-game called structured PvP which is basically a MOBA variant in MMORPGs. I tried it and it does not come near the fun of League of Legends and as it is separate from the rest of the game feel misplaced. Would much be better if it was something like in Warhammer Online, giving you an alternate route to advance your character.
WvWvW PvP. Three "faction" World vs World PvP sounds great on the paper. Unfourtunately since all servers share the same factions it just feels bland. In DAoC I could see the distinction between say the Albions and the Viking faction (forgot the name) but in GW 2 they are all the same. More over, the PvP is pointless as the bonuses are small and you dont really need them so when you take over a keep you really dont care as you know it will be lost by the next day. They need to add more meaning and persistance to it and specially they need to make it more important for guilds to hold a keep.
No endgame. Apparently the idea in GW 2 is that end-game starts at level 2. Unfourtunately that means that there wont be much of an endgame once you cap your character as they have, more or less removed the gear grind as legendary weapons are exactly the same as exotics. So that is great, gear grind is no fun, but they have replaced ith with uhm... nothing.
Dynamic Events are circular. Don't really matter when you finish one as they just go around and around in an endless cycles. They should be more complex and more persistant, maybe even resulting in an invasion of capital cities. For example there is a big dragon in the lvl 75-80 arctic zone which spawns, gets zerg-killed and respawns in an endless cycle. Have never seen what happens if it does not get zerg-killed but I imagine it would just sit there until it is.
Anyway my 2 pennies why I think GW 2 is not the great MMORPG I expected it to be.
So it's bacially: I don't like this kind of sPvP (totally boggles my mind how can it be similar to MOBA, if you could expand on this that would be great). I don't like faction fight where all factions are the same. End game of this particular game doesn't fit my taste. Dynamic events are not to my expectations. And of course without any suggestions "what would fit my taste".
I don't necessarily disagree on all points with you, but still it's just personal taste talking here... You will NEVER make a game that fits everyone... and fact that some people don't like it all that much doesn't make the game "not great".
If you said DEs are often broken, WvW suffers issues with hacking/exploiting/night capping. sPvP could use more maps/mechanics in maps. That would justify your point more...
The trick to enjoying guildwars 2 is to stagger the playing with another very different game that has a trinity. You will then totally appreciate GW 2 for the differences. I am playing two games currently GW 2 is one of them and the other has a typical trinity based dungeon crawling well I should say dungeon rushing gameplay. Everytime I come back to GW 2 I love it.
Basically people tend to gorge themselves on a game and wonder why they get tired of it or why things that seemed nice suddenly got boring all of a sudden. Familiarity breeds contempt they say and in this case it rings true. Preferably the game that you vary your game time with should be reasonably different in terms of graphics or mecahnics to truly make the differences glare back at you.
Well that is my humble opinion anyway but of course people who unlike me who is a housewife and have oodles of time will be saying well I don't have time like that to play two games simultaneously well then perhaps you need to still stagger the game time by not playing everyday so that the game does not become stale and the events blend into each other as they tend to if you are going from zone to zone doing them .Try to spend time doing the jumping quests or simply just walk about and stare at the vista and replay the vistas a few times and enjoy them. Don't play it like a job like okay I have 4 more poi to do then that heart to complete and one more high vista then I'm done !
The trick to enjoying guildwars 2 is to stagger the playing with another very different game that has a trinity. You will then totally appreciate GW 2 for the differences. I am playing two games currently GW 2 is one of them and the other has a typical trinity based dungeon crawling well I should say dungeon rushing gameplay. Everytime I come back to GW 2 I love it.
Basically people tend to gorge themselves on a game and wonder why they get tired of it or why things that seemed nice suddenly got boring all of a sudden. Familiarity breeds contempt they say and in this case it rings true. Preferably the game that you vary your game time with should be reasonably different in terms of graphics or mecahnics to truly make the differences glare back at you.
Well that is my humble opinion anyway but of course people who unlike me who is a housewife and have oodles of time will be saying well I don't have time like that to play two games simultaneously well then perhaps you need to still stagger the game time by not playing everyday so that the game does not become stale and the events blend into each other as they tend to if you are going from zone to zone doing them .Try to spend time doing the jumping quests or simply just walk about and stare at the vista and replay the vistas a few times and enjoy them. Don't play it like a job like okay I have 4 more poi to do then that heart to complete and one more high vista then I'm done !
Yeah i got burnt out pretty quickly on GW2, but i kind of went in knowing I would because I tend to with most games, especially themeparks. I have too much free time. Im not a "housewife" like you, but I work from home and on most days wind up only doing about 20 minutes of actual "work" each day. Some days I even get off with 0 actual work, and I think the busiest day Ive had in the past year was maybe 1 hour to 1:15 of work. The rest of my time is spent gaming while watching movies / shows, and napping. I dedicated myself to some games in the past for a very long time, but nowadays since I have more free time I tend to get bored easily and cant stick with just 1 for too long, so I hop back and forth spending a month or 2 here and there or playing a mix of a few diferent games for a few hours each. Like right now Im currently playing DF, EVE, and Skyrim, and also checked out the beta of PS2 a bit, played Dark Souls, and TL2 int he past couple weeks.
Ill do what I do with a lot of other games. I got into it for awhile, had some fun, started getting bored. So Im screwing with other games now and will hop back into GW2 again a little down the road to see what improvements have been made and what new features have been added and play for a few more months until I get bored again.
Its not a fault of GW2. Its my own extensive free time and personality that causes it. Im also a big alt whore in every game I play for this reason. I get bored easily and want to try out new stuff.
but but but mmorpg.com gave it a 9.3...........shows you what kind of games this site likes. I think I am about done here. This site's reviewers and moderators clearly have lost all rapport with me. Ban me, I dont care anymore.
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You hated questing, You wanted something other than the trinity, you hated Raids and you wanted 3 faction pvp.
A-net gives it to you and what do you do?
You cry for the trinity, you cry for quests, you cry for raiding, you cry for fair small scale pvp...
Over the last half decade one thing can be said about the mmo player community.
YOU HAVE NO IDEA WHAT YOU WANT!
The community is filled with a bunch of burnt out people all wanting to play that perfect game that only exists in their head.
Or, maybe GW2 is a game that made all kinds of promises and few deliveries. This site is full of Fans who blame the players when just maybe, the game really doesn't deliver. At least not in a way that works as well.
Or perhaps you are speculating and want it to fail. Folks like you kind of scare me in that it seems as if it makes you feel good to see something fail. Disturbing.
Personally I just go into game and play with others and have fun. You can spread doom and gloom if you like, but the game is top entertainment for $60.
Or maybe you are reading into my post what you want to read into it. You are twising my words. I said, maybe it's the game and not the players. Which has nothing to do with wanting it to fail.
don't see how a handfull of complainers on a website speak for the game as a whole and again ill go by what I see in game people seem very pleased with the game so far:)
There are more than a handful of complainers. You can log into pretty much any game forums and find a lot of discussion on how GW2 seems too repetitive and boring and how there is no endgame. This also matches up with both xfire and raptr numbers....not that those represent anything but general trends for those communities. I am glad that you are happy and that you like it and for the rest of the other people that play too. I also happen to like playing it for short bursts. I do understand what the other people are saying though. GW2 is far from perfect and it does seem that the idea was better than the implementation in lots of cases.
You hated questing, You wanted something other than the trinity, you hated Raids and you wanted 3 faction pvp.
A-net gives it to you and what do you do?
You cry for the trinity, you cry for quests, you cry for raiding, you cry for fair small scale pvp...
Over the last half decade one thing can be said about the mmo player community.
YOU HAVE NO IDEA WHAT YOU WANT!
The community is filled with a bunch of burnt out people all wanting to play that perfect game that only exists in their head.
Or, maybe GW2 is a game that made all kinds of promises and few deliveries. This site is full of Fans who blame the players when just maybe, the game really doesn't deliver. At least not in a way that works as well.
Or perhaps you are speculating and want it to fail. Folks like you kind of scare me in that it seems as if it makes you feel good to see something fail. Disturbing.
Personally I just go into game and play with others and have fun. You can spread doom and gloom if you like, but the game is top entertainment for $60.
Or maybe you are reading into my post what you want to read into it. You are twising my words. I said, maybe it's the game and not the players. Which has nothing to do with wanting it to fail.
don't see how a handfull of complainers on a website speak for the game as a whole and again ill go by what I see in game people seem very pleased with the game so far:)
There are more than a handful of complainers. You can log into pretty much any game forums and find a lot of discussion on how GW2 seems too repetitive and boring and how there is no endgame. This also matches up with both xfire and raptr numbers....not that those represent anything but general trends for those communities. I am glad that you are happy and that you like it and for the rest of the other people that play too. I also happen to like playing it for short bursts. I do understand what the other people are saying though. GW2 is far from perfect and it does seem that the idea was better than the implementation in lots of cases.
just like the thousands upon thousands that feel wow is a pile of crap right? Point is you can take what people say with a grain of salt here or any other forum.. you want to know what people really feel about a game go in a play it and talk to the people actually playing in the game.. yes of course it's not perfect and has many issues as does every game.
I angered the clerk in a clothing shop today. She asked me what size I was and I said actual, because I am not to scale. I like vending machines 'cause snacks are better when they fall. If I buy a candy bar at a store, oftentimes, I will drop it... so that it achieves its maximum flavor potential. --Mitch Hedberg
Despite the army of bots (just because you do not see them on your server does not mean they are not doing the game harm, the Trading Post is global in case u forgot) I am have a great time casually playing with no real end-game goal, and no rush.
I have 3 80's (my main complaint, leveling was way too easy), still having a great time.
I have spent a ridiculous amount of time in WvWvW lately (the invisible army bug was annoying but addressed quickly), still having a great time.
I have all the crafting professions maxed (not as intricate as I'd like, but the system is nice), still having a great time.
BUT I do admit the OP made some fine points in a constructive way, and the saddest thing is that multiple people reported him for it. Really? That's how accidental bans get thrown around this forum.
Despite the army of bots (just because you do not see them on your server does not mean they are not doing the game harm, the Trading Post is global in case u forgot) I am have a great time casually playing with no real end-game goal, and no rush.
I have 3 80's (my main complaint, leveling was way too easy), still having a great time.
I have spent a ridiculous amount of time in WvWvW lately (the invisible army bug was annoying but addressed quickly), still having a great time.
I have all the crafting professions maxed (not as intricate as I'd like, but the system is nice), still having a great time.
BUT I do admit the OP made some fine points in a constructive way, and the saddest thing is that multiple people reported him for it. Really? That's how accidental bans get thrown around this forum.
no way you could have 3 level 80s by now and consider yourself "playing casually" :P
I angered the clerk in a clothing shop today. She asked me what size I was and I said actual, because I am not to scale. I like vending machines 'cause snacks are better when they fall. If I buy a candy bar at a store, oftentimes, I will drop it... so that it achieves its maximum flavor potential. --Mitch Hedberg
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I don't know from where you got that he wants GW2 to fail.
don't see how a handfull of complainers on a website speak for the game as a whole and again ill go by what I see in game people seem very pleased with the game so far:)
I angered the clerk in a clothing shop today. She asked me what size I was and I said actual, because I am not to scale. I like vending machines 'cause snacks are better when they fall. If I buy a candy bar at a store, oftentimes, I will drop it... so that it achieves its maximum flavor potential. --Mitch Hedberg
Then I apologize and hope I'm wrong. It just seem from previous posts that you are happy with games failing. /shrug
Death is nothing to us, since when we are, Death has not come, and when death has come, we are not.
What I complain about has more to do with the dynamic that has een going on. Again, going back to my post. I find it irritating that people cannot be objective. It may not seem that way, but I really can be. But If I post something that is what I feel a legit complaint (Or anyone else for that matter) and then to be told that "You don't know what you want"! I say that is BS. If someone feels they didn't get what they wanted, and for other peopel to say "What more do you want?" They operate under the assumption that GW2 was delivered complete and totally according to the pre release hype and it clearly wasn't So people speak out. It's not wanting the game to fail. And it;s NOT the player's fault. That's what I am going on about. My (and other's) rights to speak our minds if we feel to do so.
funny i just started a human as well.. and in Rall saw no bots in queensdale but plenty of groups around like shown in the videos above.. but again like you say guess everyone sees what they want to see
I angered the clerk in a clothing shop today. She asked me what size I was and I said actual, because I am not to scale. I like vending machines 'cause snacks are better when they fall. If I buy a candy bar at a store, oftentimes, I will drop it... so that it achieves its maximum flavor potential. --Mitch Hedberg
The ranger/bear bots are so damn irritating. We have a ton of them on Tarnished Coast. I would think it would be in Anet's best interest to keep banning them as quickly as possible, because each one means a new copy of the game sold when the bot account is replaced. Hell of a way to increase box sales. ;-)
Our server frequently marks as full, but often the starter zones can be quiet, the Asura one seems very empty of late, not like zero people or anything, but definitely having a hard time doing some of the DEs, which is a problem I worried about from the moment I heard about the DEs. That said, the Norn and human starting areas are still packed.
You are right.
Death is nothing to us, since when we are, Death has not come, and when death has come, we are not.
I know I come across as Anti-GW2. And in many ways, I am disappointed. But not so much that I don't still play the game. My presence here is more or less in response to what I read. And maybe it's my fault, when I read something I agree with, I'll say to myself, Yeah, that's right. and I move on. But when I see something I don't, I call it out. And that tends to put me more on the "at odds" side of the line. But I do recognize a lot of the good things in the game. But to me, I'd call it more of a MMOG than an MMORPG.
Well thats why the R is in there. I think we as the players need to take on the role part and not the developers. ArenaNet gave us an awesome foundation to play but folks want to rush to the end and then complain.
I do see your points and will read them more openly now! /salute
Death is nothing to us, since when we are, Death has not come, and when death has come, we are not.
Guys, guys, guys...
Take it easy. OP made some constructive criticism of the game as a player. He is not trolling or dissing the game out of hand. Imo his remarks are well thought out and sucintlly presented. You have to give him that even if you' do not agree with his views.
As for "they have all been mentioned before," well he made an effort to place them in the same place and define them, according to his viewpoint.
Do please show some respect and be civil. And this is coming from a GW2 fan who believes the game to be the best mmo ever, but which does automatically mean that I think it is perfect with all the features coming direct from asses of angels with nothing left to do but praise the glory of genius which made this miracle come to be. Get real, the game is great but it can be greater. Be nice and constructive. Peace.
my only major complaint that grates on me with gw2 is all the people who dont play and hate the game who keep posing about why they hate teh game and that the games dieing due to some bs like xfire numbers....
my secondary complaint is that the game needs optimized better, but, thats a given the games only been out a few months.....annoying but expected.....and still better then WoW when it was this old.
+1
Though for me the game is great, so it's really what makes GW2 not being great to you Yamota, however I agree with you on the points because game isn't perfect.
Now I will say for number 3 isn't that bad IMO, because endgame for [me] isn't an issue. Though I can see that being an issue for guys like [you].
Number 4 I agree with but since I don't play games 24/7 it isn't that apparent to [me], but I'm sure it is to guys like [you].
Also the dragon timers, I agree they should change the times or something and I think the fights should get harder. Jormags claw seems to be the hardest, where as Teq is the easiest, and IMO Shatterer is the funnest(because he actually looks cool IMO).
Anyway enjoy life fellas and peace.
I might get banned for this. - Rizel Star.
I'm not afraid to tell trolls what they [need] to hear, even if that means for me to have an forced absence afterwards.
P2P LOGIC = If it's P2P it means longevity, overall better game, and THE BEST SUPPORT EVER!!!!!(Which has been rinsed and repeated about a thousand times)
Common Sense Logic = P2P logic is no better than F2P Logic.
So it's bacially: I don't like this kind of sPvP (totally boggles my mind how can it be similar to MOBA, if you could expand on this that would be great). I don't like faction fight where all factions are the same. End game of this particular game doesn't fit my taste. Dynamic events are not to my expectations. And of course without any suggestions "what would fit my taste".
I don't necessarily disagree on all points with you, but still it's just personal taste talking here... You will NEVER make a game that fits everyone... and fact that some people don't like it all that much doesn't make the game "not great".
If you said DEs are often broken, WvW suffers issues with hacking/exploiting/night capping. sPvP could use more maps/mechanics in maps. That would justify your point more...
The trick to enjoying guildwars 2 is to stagger the playing with another very different game that has a trinity. You will then totally appreciate GW 2 for the differences. I am playing two games currently GW 2 is one of them and the other has a typical trinity based dungeon crawling well I should say dungeon rushing gameplay. Everytime I come back to GW 2 I love it.
Basically people tend to gorge themselves on a game and wonder why they get tired of it or why things that seemed nice suddenly got boring all of a sudden. Familiarity breeds contempt they say and in this case it rings true. Preferably the game that you vary your game time with should be reasonably different in terms of graphics or mecahnics to truly make the differences glare back at you.
Well that is my humble opinion anyway but of course people who unlike me who is a housewife and have oodles of time will be saying well I don't have time like that to play two games simultaneously well then perhaps you need to still stagger the game time by not playing everyday so that the game does not become stale and the events blend into each other as they tend to if you are going from zone to zone doing them .Try to spend time doing the jumping quests or simply just walk about and stare at the vista and replay the vistas a few times and enjoy them. Don't play it like a job like okay I have 4 more poi to do then that heart to complete and one more high vista then I'm done !
Yeah i got burnt out pretty quickly on GW2, but i kind of went in knowing I would because I tend to with most games, especially themeparks. I have too much free time. Im not a "housewife" like you, but I work from home and on most days wind up only doing about 20 minutes of actual "work" each day. Some days I even get off with 0 actual work, and I think the busiest day Ive had in the past year was maybe 1 hour to 1:15 of work. The rest of my time is spent gaming while watching movies / shows, and napping. I dedicated myself to some games in the past for a very long time, but nowadays since I have more free time I tend to get bored easily and cant stick with just 1 for too long, so I hop back and forth spending a month or 2 here and there or playing a mix of a few diferent games for a few hours each. Like right now Im currently playing DF, EVE, and Skyrim, and also checked out the beta of PS2 a bit, played Dark Souls, and TL2 int he past couple weeks.
Ill do what I do with a lot of other games. I got into it for awhile, had some fun, started getting bored. So Im screwing with other games now and will hop back into GW2 again a little down the road to see what improvements have been made and what new features have been added and play for a few more months until I get bored again.
Its not a fault of GW2. Its my own extensive free time and personality that causes it. Im also a big alt whore in every game I play for this reason. I get bored easily and want to try out new stuff.
* OVERALL CONCEPT
- warrior;mage;archer; rogue
This concept alone is already stale and too many mmos follow this fantasy style.
* PVE & ENVIRONMENT
- too much guided, but well its a themepark
- missing quests and instead of it repetitive events on each map
- more or less no grouping at all and therefore socializing is dead
- no endgame
- nothing really for explorer
* PVP
- no really progression
- questionable balance of classes and overall pvp system
- zerg fest type of pvp
- blue vs red instead of faction wars and wvw with low rewards
I got faster bored with Guildwars 2 and played it less than SWTOR. And Swtor was already not that great.
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Good thread. Interesting discussion.
Didn't stop some nom-rod from reporting the OP tho. Way to go zealot.
There are more than a handful of complainers. You can log into pretty much any game forums and find a lot of discussion on how GW2 seems too repetitive and boring and how there is no endgame. This also matches up with both xfire and raptr numbers....not that those represent anything but general trends for those communities. I am glad that you are happy and that you like it and for the rest of the other people that play too. I also happen to like playing it for short bursts. I do understand what the other people are saying though. GW2 is far from perfect and it does seem that the idea was better than the implementation in lots of cases.
just like the thousands upon thousands that feel wow is a pile of crap right? Point is you can take what people say with a grain of salt here or any other forum.. you want to know what people really feel about a game go in a play it and talk to the people actually playing in the game.. yes of course it's not perfect and has many issues as does every game.
I angered the clerk in a clothing shop today. She asked me what size I was and I said actual, because I am not to scale. I like vending machines 'cause snacks are better when they fall. If I buy a candy bar at a store, oftentimes, I will drop it... so that it achieves its maximum flavor potential. --Mitch Hedberg
Despite the army of bots (just because you do not see them on your server does not mean they are not doing the game harm, the Trading Post is global in case u forgot) I am have a great time casually playing with no real end-game goal, and no rush.
I have 3 80's (my main complaint, leveling was way too easy), still having a great time.
I have spent a ridiculous amount of time in WvWvW lately (the invisible army bug was annoying but addressed quickly), still having a great time.
I have all the crafting professions maxed (not as intricate as I'd like, but the system is nice), still having a great time.
BUT I do admit the OP made some fine points in a constructive way, and the saddest thing is that multiple people reported him for it. Really? That's how accidental bans get thrown around this forum.
no way you could have 3 level 80s by now and consider yourself "playing casually" :P
I angered the clerk in a clothing shop today. She asked me what size I was and I said actual, because I am not to scale. I like vending machines 'cause snacks are better when they fall. If I buy a candy bar at a store, oftentimes, I will drop it... so that it achieves its maximum flavor potential. --Mitch Hedberg