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MMO you hate the most because of the fans
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Justin Bieber has millions of fans, does that make him a talented artist?
GW2 is not a good game in the eyes of those that do not like it, get over it and go back to playing your Charr Necromancer or what the hell ever.
Some of the GW2 sunshining that goes on is a little nauseating but I don't hate any game because of it's "fans".
"Come and have a look at what you could have won."
GW2 by a longshot.
There are certain queer times and occasions in this strange mixed affair we call life when a man takes this whole universe for a vast practical joke, though the wit thereof he but dimly discerns, and more than suspects that the joke is at nobody's expense but his own.
-- Herman Melville
The thing I hate the most because of the fans is CS1.6 and SC, because it creates fans like you...who think that is somehow "true skill" as opposed to other video games.
I played CS (I find it hilarious that you call it 1.6...lmao...) and SC. I was very good at CS, although certainly not obsessive about it where I thought myself above other people because I played it instead of other video games.
True skill based PvP games like CS1.5, SC, and others back then? LOL...
Almost as delicious of a laugh as those who think Ultima Online pre-trammel was somehow "true skill" PvP, or randomly PKing 13 year old kids, new players, and clueless housewives somehow makes them good at the game?
I find myself on the top scoreboards of any game I ever play. Whether it is a FPS, RTS, MMO, or anything inbetween. Carebear (WoW) or Hardcore (UO, Darkfall) I win more often than not, and rarely lose in a fair fight in a MMO. Although I don't participate in tournaments and I'm not a "pro gamer" (laugh), I never have a problem against other players, except in RTS games which I have fewer hours clocked in. (I do, however, get high in ranked matches with fewer matches played than the average competitive player).
What does this mean? I am good at video games- all of them. You pretty much have to have an aimbot to beat me in FPS, use pro teamwork to outfox me, or have hundreds more hours in the RTS. Yet I do not believe any of this skewed perspective on "true skill".
I can beat you in your chosen FPS, dominate you in the MOBA of choice, and roflstomp you in that MMO you like. I will never, ever, EVER claim I have "true skill" in any of those simply because I have played CS1.6, SC, or UO.
True skill? Roflmao...that is just funny. There are WoW players all around that will roflstomp you because they have true skill, and don't even know what a FPS, RTS, or other MMO even is.
I've played for well over a decade, and I can promise you...true skill is mostly just a matter of experience. In other words: number of hours you've played in the game, and to a lesser extent number of hours you've played in the genre. Having a fair fight is almost non-existent in any genre, unless you get people with similar clocked hours. Then you can translate "player skill" into what you probably believe actually IS player skill. Unfortunately, that is all vague and subjective as well.
I am still laughing off my butt...."True Skill- CS1.6" lol...
There is no difference between "true skill" in CS1.6, Red Orchestra, Team Fortress, or Hello Kitty Foam Shooter. They are all just a point and click interface which require the user to gather experience of how often to hold the click, when to stop clicking, and some smaller things like predicting movement, map awareness, or whatever else the specific game includes in it: all of which simply require hours played, or perhaps guides read.
Justin Bieber is actually a talented artist. That's pretty much a fact. Does that make him an artist to like and admire? According to 12-year old girls - yes. According to me - no.
Justin Bieber is actually a talented artist. That's pretty much a fact. Does that make him an artist to like and admire? According to 12-year old girls - yes. According to me - no.
Bieber is a talented businessman, not artist. He doesnt create art, he creates a product for mass market consumers. And he is hella good at it. But thats not art.
No, his producer and the technological wizardry of autotune are the artists in this case.
I've actually seen the "Never say never" justin bieber "documentary" (please don't ask). And he was indeed a musical talent before his break-through. I get what you're saying though, and 99% of his success is probably because of his producer and what not (and there's obviously a lot more talented musicians with barely a fraction of his fame).
Well just like some mmo players, some little girls will follow anything... Remember the boy band years? From the mid 90's up until about 2004? Every new boy band that came out had girls all into them.. Not because of their singing talent per se, but the fact that it gave them something to support.. They were basically ALL the same (bouncy bubblegum pop tunes), but it ididnt matter..
The same could be said for MMO's recently..
From what I understood he was making a parody of the subject to summarize his disdain.
"The knowledge of the theory of logic has no tendency whatever to make men good reasoners." - Thomas B. Macaulay
"The greatest enemy of knowledge is not ignorance, it is the illusion of knowledge." - Daniel J. Boorstin
My theme song.
Because... What? One of them, who's obviously representative of several million people, posted something you apparently didn't agree with?
Nope.
My theme song.
EvE, where the fans can come to a thread and insult every single mmo-out there with all their player-base who are idiots, playing a trash game when EvE is there.
WoW fans are often childish and ignorant.
GW2 aren´t that bad, however, you can find them everywhere, so it is kinda too annoying sometimes. On the other hand, the fans of the other games are the ones who made GW2 fanbois bad at mmorpg.com Because Mr/Mrs Pro began to open threads basing GW2 in GW2 forums and without valid arguments and without even mentioning that it is a oersonal opinion. Right now, GW2 community here, is so tired of all the threads, trollin GW2 in the past 2 months, that they begin to troll other games too.
From what I understood he was making a parody of the subject to summarize his disdain.
There was no disdain. Over zealous gw2 fans are entertaining. I said that in my original post. Someone else turned it into all gw2 fans and hate.
Leaps and miles from any other community, GW2.
Mostly because they believe GW2 is the best, most innovative, ground breaking, next-gen, finallyaWoWkiller game ever released. atlho everything has started showing in opposite direction. It's almost unbearable.
That's why I stuck with CoH and WoW for so long. The community, which was great respectively, for different reasons. Anyone who thinks that isn't an issue is just clueless.
At a push I'd say GW2 just because of the excuses the fanbois come out with because someone doesn't like their favorite game. I remember defending SWTOR when people said it should die for, 'the good of the industry', which is such a idiotic suggestion. I'd never dispute if someone didn't like the game, that's their choice.
However on these forums that's what ANET diehards do with reasons like being too, 'stupid' to understand it's simple mechanics. Or there a , 'wowfanboy', or a, 'Luddite', or whatever else and they love paraphasing to discredit anyone who calls them out on it.
DAOC was an innovitive game, no doubt, but yes people who just say, 'This should be like DAOC had it', are blinkered at best and probably are sipping some of the Mythic Old School Special.The game had plenty of issues and questionable expansions.
Memories and rose tinted specs make you right no? :P
This looks like a job for....The Riviera Kid!
oh my god I can´t believe people actually think that QUEST HUBS -- E V E R were the problem of bland MMO concepts.
It´s mindboggling.
How exactly does it matter how you receive an egg collection quest in your questlog?
Like a new shiny car is better because the tank cap is on the right side instead of the left side?
"Oh, I can never ever go back to driving those cars with their fuel cap on the left side!"
Guess that´s one of the reasons GW2 fans are leading the list here. Incredibly happy about one less click on an NPC, but ignoring the fact they do the same thing like 10 years ago in any other MMO.
I agree but i think the OP's point is that even though it may be irrational,rabid fans can turn you off to a game,maybe not to hate,but to totally lose interest.
Never forget 3 mile Island and never trust a government official or company spokesman.
At least i made up my mind by actually playing the game, you made your mind based upon fan reaction. I have a mind of my own and will play something before i have an opinion on it, you sir are easily led.
play rift and you'll see why it matters, you have to do quest A from npc X so that you can see quest B and C over the heads of npc Y and Z. chain quests hubs are horrible and linear. people want to explore at their own leisure and not be led around by the nose, doing boring, meaningless quests for 15 dollars a month.