Originally posted by useful Got a link to the updated stats Shayde? im curious to see if they updated the enhancement nerf.
Shadye just quoted what was updated on CoV and while still a nerf wasn't causing any major concerns.
I myself havn't seen the changes he's quoting, related directly with CoH i6. Hence something seems wrong, somewhere. What is in i6 even contradics what was originally posted by the devs and what was done with CoV.
If they migrate what is in i6 onto CoV and ultimatly onto CoH live servers it will be a sad day. While you can compensate for the 30% off damage, by slotting recharge (which actually gives you greater damage within a power's base recharge period) you can't compensate defences. Hopfully this will just be the OTT patch, which we always get in the first test release.
There is no "gradual" decline in enhancment power. You basically hit a brick wall. Slotting more than 3 of the same-type enhancement in any power yields anywhere from 5-6% for Schedule A enhancements and in the neighborhood of 3% for Schedule B.
Taken from the Training room:
Schedule A enhancers: (Accuracy, Damage, etc.)
+3 +2 +1
1st SO: 38.3% 36.6% 35.0% 2nd SO: 37.6% 36.3% 34.9% 3rd SO: 21.3% 23.5% 25.8% 4th SO: 5.7% 5.5% 5.2% 5th SO: 5.7% 5.5% 5.2% 6th SO: 5.7% 5.5% 5.2%
Originally posted by Wingzfan25 It looks like melee characters and blasters who rely on their alpha-strikes are gonna be hit the hardest.
In the PVP event last night, my Blaster tore it UP.
Everyone's speculation on what class will be "uber" is totally off.
I just loved when the Stalker took me on 1 on 1... hit me critically and took me down to almost nothing, so my defiance kicked in and I fried him.
Oh yeah.. a blast.
All bets are off.
Shayde - SWG (dead) Proud member of the Cabal.
It sounds great, so great in fact, I pitty those who canceled - Some deluded SWG fanboi who pities me. I don't like it when you say things. - A Vanguard fan who does too. 09f911029d74e35bd84156c5635688c0
so my complete set of lvl 53 so's which took me months to farm is going to get scrapped?
It's the same every patch.
something i have worked hard to achieve over many many hours of dedicated play is taken away from me.
Just like SWG.
It's a game killer.
What are the statistics on the number of paying customers who explicitly requested their game to be nerfed?
This really isn't like any other type of game, where if you don't like the changes in the changlist you don't have to apply the patch and you can still play.
The product I bought was an excellent one. since then however the service has been very bad and actively degraded that game on a regular basis.
The whole development staff have must have forgotten that they sold the game.
They clearly still regard it as their own. This attitude is directly contrary to what is required in order to offer a good service.
The game service is fundamentally flawed. The longer it exists the worse it will become. Death by a thousand patches.
Originally posted by Wingzfan25 It looks like melee characters and blasters who rely on their alpha-strikes are gonna be hit the hardest.
In the PVP event last night, my Blaster tore it UP.
Everyone's speculation on what class will be "uber" is totally off.
I just loved when the Stalker took me on 1 on 1... hit me critically and took me down to almost nothing, so my defiance kicked in and I fried him.
Oh yeah.. a blast.
All bets are off.
I played a blaster (energy/electric) to last night. They are evil against Stalkers. Also very handy for sneaking into their rear lines (had stealth/super speed) holding (or stunning) a dominator or corruptor and then laying into them before escaping back to the safetly of fellow heros.
I also rolled another blaster (fire/fire) with stealth and fly (3 fly/3end reducers, with 3 slotted stamina). Freaked many Brutes out who couldn't reach me and when they did, hit them with air supremacy forcing them to the ground again. Amazing what a fall from a great hight followed by an onslaught of range attack will do. Slot them with 1 acc, 3 damage and 2 recharge and your dps is quite impressive. Who needs hasten.
I also liked how there was npc battles going on, which players assisted with. Depending on which side won affected who was winning the overall battle.
Great fun and very tired as a rest, with living in the EU.
Yeah, PvP is going to be real interesting. I rolled up a Rad/Sonic defender for the event and had a blast, even though I'm not a big fan of PvP. It was hilarious having a stalker run away from a poor little defender.
The heroes definitely dominated this event for the most part. I think it's more due to experience playing those characters than anything. A lot of the villain groups seemed a bit disorganized and had way too many Stalkers and Masterminds to be effective against the variety of heroes on the field.
I loved when a teammate kept complaining on vent.. "Why are all those stalkers running from me?"
Overpowered my left cheek.
Shayde - SWG (dead) Proud member of the Cabal.
It sounds great, so great in fact, I pitty those who canceled - Some deluded SWG fanboi who pities me. I don't like it when you say things. - A Vanguard fan who does too. 09f911029d74e35bd84156c5635688c0
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Shadye just quoted what was updated on CoV and while still a nerf wasn't causing any major concerns.
I myself havn't seen the changes he's quoting, related directly with CoH i6. Hence something seems wrong, somewhere. What is in i6 even contradics what was originally posted by the devs and what was done with CoV.
If they migrate what is in i6 onto CoV and ultimatly onto CoH live servers it will be a sad day. While you can compensate for the 30% off damage, by slotting recharge (which actually gives you greater damage within a power's base recharge period) you can't compensate defences. Hopfully this will just be the OTT patch, which we always get in the first test release.
There is no "gradual" decline in enhancment power. You basically hit a brick wall. Slotting more than 3 of the same-type enhancement in any power yields anywhere from 5-6% for Schedule A enhancements and in the neighborhood of 3% for Schedule B.
Taken from the Training room:
Schedule A enhancers: (Accuracy, Damage, etc.)
+3 +2 +1
1st SO: 38.3% 36.6% 35.0%
2nd SO: 37.6% 36.3% 34.9%
3rd SO: 21.3% 23.5% 25.8%
4th SO: 5.7% 5.5% 5.2%
5th SO: 5.7% 5.5% 5.2%
6th SO: 5.7% 5.5% 5.2%
Schedule B enhancers: (Defense, Resistance, etc)
only data for +2 enhancements available
Slot 1 - 22.0%
Slot 2 - 21.6%
Slot 3 - 13.3%
Slot 4 - 3.3%
Slot 5 - 3.3%
Slot 6 - 3.3%
Yeah, that's the problem and I'm not happy with what has been just pushed to CoH's test server. ED is a complete change to what it was.
Although knowing how the devs like to scare people with their first push, I suspect this won't be the final version. Finger's crossed.
In the PVP event last night, my Blaster tore it UP.
Everyone's speculation on what class will be "uber" is totally off.
I just loved when the Stalker took me on 1 on 1... hit me critically and took me down to almost nothing, so my defiance kicked in and I fried him.
Oh yeah.. a blast.
All bets are off.
Shayde - SWG (dead)
Proud member of the Cabal.
It sounds great, so great in fact, I pitty those who canceled - Some deluded SWG fanboi who pities me.
I don't like it when you say things. - A Vanguard fan who does too.
09f911029d74e35bd84156c5635688c0
so my complete set of lvl 53 so's which took me months to farm is going to get scrapped?
It's the same every patch.
something i have worked hard to achieve over many many hours of dedicated play is taken away from me.
Just like SWG.
It's a game killer.
What are the statistics on the number of paying customers who explicitly requested their game to be nerfed?
This really isn't like any other type of game, where if you don't like the changes in the changlist you don't have to apply the patch and you can still play.
The product I bought was an excellent one. since then however the service has been very bad and actively degraded that game on a regular basis.
The whole development staff have must have forgotten that they sold the game.
They clearly still regard it as their own. This attitude is directly contrary to what is required in order to offer a good service.
The game service is fundamentally flawed. The longer it exists the worse it will become. Death by a thousand patches.
In the PVP event last night, my Blaster tore it UP.
Everyone's speculation on what class will be "uber" is totally off.
I just loved when the Stalker took me on 1 on 1... hit me critically and took me down to almost nothing, so my defiance kicked in and I fried him.
Oh yeah.. a blast.
All bets are off.
I played a blaster (energy/electric) to last night. They are evil against Stalkers. Also very handy for sneaking into their rear lines (had stealth/super speed) holding (or stunning) a dominator or corruptor and then laying into them before escaping back to the safetly of fellow heros.
I also rolled another blaster (fire/fire) with stealth and fly (3 fly/3end reducers, with 3 slotted stamina). Freaked many Brutes out who couldn't reach me and when they did, hit them with air supremacy forcing them to the ground again. Amazing what a fall from a great hight followed by an onslaught of range attack will do. Slot them with 1 acc, 3 damage and 2 recharge and your dps is quite impressive. Who needs hasten.
I also liked how there was npc battles going on, which players assisted with. Depending on which side won affected who was winning the overall battle.
Great fun and very tired as a rest, with living in the EU.
Yeah, PvP is going to be real interesting. I rolled up a Rad/Sonic defender for the event and had a blast, even though I'm not a big fan of PvP. It was hilarious having a stalker run away from a poor little defender.
The heroes definitely dominated this event for the most part. I think it's more due to experience playing those characters than anything. A lot of the villain groups seemed a bit disorganized and had way too many Stalkers and Masterminds to be effective against the variety of heroes on the field.
I'm actually looking forward to this PvP thing.
I loved when a teammate kept complaining on vent.. "Why are all those stalkers running from me?"
Overpowered my left cheek.
Shayde - SWG (dead)
Proud member of the Cabal.
It sounds great, so great in fact, I pitty those who canceled - Some deluded SWG fanboi who pities me.
I don't like it when you say things. - A Vanguard fan who does too.
09f911029d74e35bd84156c5635688c0