So pking someone is a cheap thrill but killing a boss in a raid is not a cheap thrill?
Am I getting this right?
Pretty much. If you have to kill someone with 3 monsters on them at half health, well, don't be surprised when PvP in PvE MMO's finally bites the dust for good. Pretty soon they will be two different games.
Currently Playing: ESO and FFXIV Have played: You name it If you mention rose tinted glasses, you better be referring to Mitch Hedberg.
Interesting results. I expected the exclusively PvP crowd to be higher, though I guess MMOs are a terrible choice if you have *zero* interest in PvE content.
You dont get pvp and pve adrenalin as far as I am aware, maybe we will evolve and have that in the future . if you are talking about it from a victims pov well it's true bosses don't sneak about in real life to abuse unaware players.
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PvP is the single most important thing in a game for me.
I've never liked PvE, its boring and repetitive and a monkey can do it.
I can literally smash my face into the keyboard in any game and do good in PvE,
skill required = none
Because I HAVE to level I've taken a tiny liking to questing. If the quest has a good storyline I can really get into it but most quest are collect X, kill X. So yeah... PvE is pretty bad.
PvP on the other hand is AMAZING! I can PvP on a game and never get bored. I've fallen asleep at my computer during raids but that has never happened in PvP. Theres something about owning someone that gets my blood boiling, the unpredictability, the teamwork, EVERYTHING.
I dont see how people dont like PvP. Sure, getting ganked is annoying but... DEAL WITH IT!
PvErs are cry babies who dont have what it takes to PvP. If you're afraid of getting ganked your more likely to socialize with people to make a party. I've carried/protected people I dont know from players just because I didnt want them to get ganked. PvP creates a since of unity in people and makes them friendlier. If someone is willing to protect you from a horde of players for extended periods of time it makes you appreciate other players and helps the community as a whole.
So pking someone is a cheap thrill but killing a boss in a raid is not a cheap thrill?
Am I getting this right?
Pretty much. If you have to kill someone with 3 monsters on them at half health, well, don't be surprised when PvP in PvE MMO's finally bites the dust for good. Pretty soon they will be two different games.
last time i got ganked with 3 monsters on me and died. I respawned in town and brought an army back with me to kill the player killer. You're never the only player being killed. And because i wasnt gaining linear experience. it wasnt a total loss. Thats justice.
Also it's been my experience that most PvP exclusive players are terrible at PvE content in general. We have had to make several cuts from our guild of (mostly) PvP-centric players because they can't stay out of a red circle. So much for PvE takes no skill.
Currently Playing: ESO and FFXIV Have played: You name it If you mention rose tinted glasses, you better be referring to Mitch Hedberg.
Originally posted by ShakyMo Aeon: You take a guy out of a skilled job and ask him to stack shelves at Asda, he's usually pretty bad at it as his mind is elsewhere
That's not a really good analogy. It's like someone who works a burger joint. The reason they work there if they are over the age of about 20-25 is because they can't advance past flipping burgers. There is no real excuse other than laziness. To each there own, but that analogy goes either way haha
I will say I'm super psyched about TESO RvR.
Currently Playing: ESO and FFXIV Have played: You name it If you mention rose tinted glasses, you better be referring to Mitch Hedberg.
Originally posted by Aeonblades Also it's been my experience that most PvP exclusive players are terrible at PvE content in general. We have had to make several cuts from our guild of (mostly) PvP-centric players because they can't stay out of a red circle. So much for PvE takes no skill.
I always focus on the PvE. I may do some PvP, but it's not my favorite or even second favorite way to pass the time in an MMO. I do find it amusing though how many people think MMOs are or should be all about PvP, yet in games where PvP is the heavy focus, but still offers PvE, like Warhammer Online. You'll see a lot of griping from the PvPers that too many people spend their time in the PvE content and not enough being ganked and they keep pushing developers to put all of the incentives into the PvP aspect in some tragically warped belief that it will force everyone to focus on the PvP. So what does Mythic do? They nerf rewards and XP gains for all PvE content and beef up XP and reward gains in PvP and instead of enticing those sheep to PvP, they leave the game instead, me included.
How many mmorpg's released in the past 5 years have forced PvP on you? They're not hard to avoid.
Not forced to pvp no but forced our characters to be nerfed or changed because of pvp whiners. Make pvp completely separate to pve.
Amen to that, but it will never happen. Developers are too damn lazy to come out with separate code for each, just like they're too lazy to come out with two separate interfaces for hybrid PC / Console MMOs.
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O RLY?
http://youtu.be/5sVqyzHfe50
Pvp has more staying power than pve, I always completed all the pve and then got bored waiting for more until i eventually got bored of pvp also.
I doubt this will change though, pve is just waaay too easy these days to the point ive about given up on mmorpgs.
The irony that you thought PvE was dying out when it's pvp on the short end of the stick :-p
So pking someone is a cheap thrill but killing a boss in a raid is not a cheap thrill?
Am I getting this right?
Pretty much. If you have to kill someone with 3 monsters on them at half health, well, don't be surprised when PvP in PvE MMO's finally bites the dust for good. Pretty soon they will be two different games.
Currently Playing: ESO and FFXIV
Have played: You name it
If you mention rose tinted glasses, you better be referring to Mitch Hedberg.
Who says you have to kill someone fighting 3 monsters?
PvE is a joke outside the circle of top progressors, everyone else just copies what they do to beat the encounters.
Uh yes. I'm not sure if you are aware of it, but there is a significant difference between an npc running a script and a person playing a character.
Lol, PvE'ers, stay classy
Interesting results. I expected the exclusively PvP crowd to be higher, though I guess MMOs are a terrible choice if you have *zero* interest in PvE content.
I'm a fan of both.
REALLY?!
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PvE only: my ideal game should have heavy crafting, exploring and PvE.
PvP - not an option under any circumstances; I won't go for any game that has pvP.
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PvP is the single most important thing in a game for me.
I've never liked PvE, its boring and repetitive and a monkey can do it.
I can literally smash my face into the keyboard in any game and do good in PvE,
skill required = none
Because I HAVE to level I've taken a tiny liking to questing. If the quest has a good storyline I can really get into it but most quest are collect X, kill X. So yeah... PvE is pretty bad.
PvP on the other hand is AMAZING! I can PvP on a game and never get bored. I've fallen asleep at my computer during raids but that has never happened in PvP. Theres something about owning someone that gets my blood boiling, the unpredictability, the teamwork, EVERYTHING.
I dont see how people dont like PvP. Sure, getting ganked is annoying but... DEAL WITH IT!
PvErs are cry babies who dont have what it takes to PvP. If you're afraid of getting ganked your more likely to socialize with people to make a party. I've carried/protected people I dont know from players just because I didnt want them to get ganked. PvP creates a since of unity in people and makes them friendlier. If someone is willing to protect you from a horde of players for extended periods of time it makes you appreciate other players and helps the community as a whole.
#TrueStory
Yes, really.
Well PVE servers exist for a reason.
Also don't forget that the votes are based on this website's community, not necessarily the entire MMO community.
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Also, there seems to be this misconception that PKers are loud, angry, and down right mean.
This is completely untrue. Sure things can get heated but there are just as many asshats in PvE as there are in PvP.
last time i got ganked with 3 monsters on me and died. I respawned in town and brought an army back with me to kill the player killer. You're never the only player being killed. And because i wasnt gaining linear experience. it wasnt a total loss. Thats justice.
More classy PvE'rs:
http://youtu.be/F4wurXDgYmE
Currently Playing: ESO and FFXIV
Have played: You name it
If you mention rose tinted glasses, you better be referring to Mitch Hedberg.
You take a guy out of a skilled job and ask him to stack shelves at Asda, he's usually pretty bad at it as his mind is elsewhere
That's not a really good analogy. It's like someone who works a burger joint. The reason they work there if they are over the age of about 20-25 is because they can't advance past flipping burgers. There is no real excuse other than laziness. To each there own, but that analogy goes either way haha
I will say I'm super psyched about TESO RvR.
Currently Playing: ESO and FFXIV
Have played: You name it
If you mention rose tinted glasses, you better be referring to Mitch Hedberg.
Not forced to pvp no but forced our characters to be nerfed or changed because of pvp whiners. Make pvp completely separate to pve.
Amen to that, but it will never happen. Developers are too damn lazy to come out with separate code for each, just like they're too lazy to come out with two separate interfaces for hybrid PC / Console MMOs.