I have been reading all the information I can about this game since it was announced and I am more excited about it than any other upcomming mmo. I would be dissapointed not to see it meet it's goal and, although I have never contributed to a KS project before, my partner and I will both be contributing enough to get into the beta with the potential for more as more information is revealed and depending on how the rewards are laid out. I think you have a great idea, Mark. Glad you are making a game that caters to us "niche" gamers!
ill be contributing to it myself for the first time ever on kickstarter even if I do not like the direction the game is heading. I think this studio and MJ deserve a second chance to make another mythic down the road even though it might not be as large so anyway I can contribute to making that happen Ill be there to help. People hate on the poor guy and do not realize that EA and other factors played a part in decision making with warhammer. I found DAOC much better than war but there was still plenty in war that was fun including the public quests which people hate on but thats where both rift and guild wars 2 took their idea and improved on it. I think MJ knows what hes doing and people should contribute for the simple fact this isnt a amataur , its a real indie studio with experience. Maybe if this is successful some of the other studios will stop signing their life away to big share holder companies that do not give two shits about mmos just money.
Everyone always says when a game is bad here to speak with your wallet , well people should buck the hell up here and speak with their wallet to support a studio that isnt controlled by some big corp of greed for once as well.
I'll be donating at least $50, would like to give much more but I'll also be donating to a radio station (WFMU) this month and need to save money for college. I really, really hope this game finds the two million in donations it needs. DAoC was a part of my childhood and I have more fond memories for that game than any other I've ever played. This genre needs some major revitalization and I think CU would be great thing.
We get disapointet enough everytime we buy a new game and it is fun for a week then game over, never gonna give cash to company that cant afford to develop the game.
This is a for profit company. It's not my job to pre-fund their business venture.
They need to find investors, release a quality product and then they will earn my money and get a return on their investment.
This whole kickstarter thing just doesn't sit well with me.
Nobody claims that it is your 'job' Investing often involves the population. In fact, thats how most stocks work. People invest in a corporation for some reward. There is nothing new there. It is also not stock investors job to do so. They do it voluntarily. In this case, I will invest whatever I'm comfortable with when they begin it. (At least I don't think they started it).
This is a for profit company. It's not my job to pre-fund their business venture.
They need to find investors, release a quality product and then they will earn my money and get a return on their investment.
This whole kickstarter thing just doesn't sit well with me.
They have found investers, you. That is the point of kickstarter. You DO get something for investing, a game, and perks for donating.
I have to say that I agree with Ghern. I don't pay people so they will do a job for me, I pay people because they did a job for me. I'm happy that they have kickstarter programs for people to support, but I have no interest in taking part.
All of my posts are either intelligent, thought provoking, funny, satirical, sarcastic or intentionally disrespectful. Take your pick.
I get banned in the forums for games I love, so lets see if I do better in the forums for games I hate.
I enjoy the serenity of not caring what your opinion is.
I'm going for the 100 - 200$ range. I don't have a lot of free cash at the moment, but having the opportunity to put some money into something that I believe in and thing will be worth wile. Sounds like a winner to me. I don't really care what I get out of the investment as long as the final product ships.
-Ash
"The two things that are going to survive nuclear winter are going to be cockroaches and WoW." - Mark Jacobs
If I continue to get the feeling player feedback will receive an appropriate amount of consideration in the development process, I'm prepared to give a pretty substancial amount. I'm waiting for more specifics before throwing numbers around. Honestly, I'm excited for Jacobs. I get the impression he's on the verge of realizing a career-long dream. Good for him, and hopefully great for us!
This is a for profit company. It's not my job to pre-fund their business venture.
They need to find investors, release a quality product and then they will earn my money and get a return on their investment.
This whole kickstarter thing just doesn't sit well with me.
Nobody claims that it is your 'job' Investing often involves the population. In fact, thats how most stocks work. People invest in a corporation for some reward. There is nothing new there. It is also not stock investors job to do so. They do it voluntarily. In this case, I will invest whatever I'm comfortable with when they begin it. (At least I don't think they started it).
You can say you are an investor but in reality all you are doing is giving money away.
If you donate to a charity you get to write off that donation on your taxes.
If you invest in stocks and that stock goes up you make money in dividends and stock value if you sell.
When you give to kick starter you get nothing except some unique pixels on a screen.
Like I said, I do not feel its my place to give a for-profit company my money to hopefully get off the ground and produce a quality product.
Produce the quality product and I will happily give some of my money for the entertainment it offers.
I don't mean to act like what I think others should do, it's your money. Do with it what you please.
This is a for profit company. It's not my job to pre-fund their business venture.
They need to find investors, release a quality product and then they will earn my money and get a return on their investment.
This whole kickstarter thing just doesn't sit well with me.
Yup.
Do a round of investing and hand out some of your company's equity. If CSE made CU a game for the people by the people, CSE would get their 2 million on kickstarter in a week.
This is a for profit company. It's not my job to pre-fund their business venture.
They need to find investors, release a quality product and then they will earn my money and get a return on their investment.
This whole kickstarter thing just doesn't sit well with me.
Nobody claims that it is your 'job' Investing often involves the population. In fact, thats how most stocks work. People invest in a corporation for some reward. There is nothing new there. It is also not stock investors job to do so. They do it voluntarily. In this case, I will invest whatever I'm comfortable with when they begin it. (At least I don't think they started it).
You can say you are an investor but in reality all you are doing is giving money away.
If you donate to a charity you get to write off that donation on your taxes.
If you invest in stocks and that stock goes up you make money in dividends and stock value if you sell.
When you give to kick starter you get nothing except some unique pixels on a screen.
Like I said, I do not feel its my place to give a for-profit company my money to hopefully get off the ground and produce a quality product.
Produce the quality product and I will happily give some of my money for the entertainment it offers.
I don't mean to act like what I think others should do, it's your money. Do with it what you please.
This is a for profit company. It's not my job to pre-fund their business venture.
They need to find investors, release a quality product and then they will earn my money and get a return on their investment.
This whole kickstarter thing just doesn't sit well with me.
Nobody claims that it is your 'job' Investing often involves the population. In fact, thats how most stocks work. People invest in a corporation for some reward. There is nothing new there. It is also not stock investors job to do so. They do it voluntarily. In this case, I will invest whatever I'm comfortable with when they begin it. (At least I don't think they started it).
You can say you are an investor but in reality all you are doing is giving money away.
If you donate to a charity you get to write off that donation on your taxes.
If you invest in stocks and that stock goes up you make money in dividends and stock value if you sell.
When you give to kick starter you get nothing except some unique pixels on a screen.
Like I said, I do not feel its my place to give a for-profit company my money to hopefully get off the ground and produce a quality product.
Produce the quality product and I will happily give some of my money for the entertainment it offers.
I don't mean to act like what I think others should do, it's your money. Do with it what you please.
Thats just it. People will give to kickstarter because, one the extra money won't financially backrupt them and two its something they believe and want to see it become a reality.
I'll pay $100, because I can afford it , easily. I Waste more money on eating out, casinos etc...no return there either. Atleast with this kickstarter , if it all works out, I'll have a tangible game to play that is right up my personal Alley.
No one gets my money until release and I see what is actually left from all those promises that where made. They have NOTHING to show except some random generic concept art and a design document full of wishful thinking.
"There's a sucker born every minute"-P. T. Barnum (1810–1891)
"Give players systems and tools instead of rails and rules"
Mark Jacobs has stated that the game isn't going to be made if the Kickstarter goal isn't reached. All this means is that there is not enough interest in the game and that making the game on his own would have been a big financial mistake. Not everybody can make a succesful game, but that doesn't mean you have throw a few million dollars out of the window to find out. Even with the Kickstarter he and his company still take a huge monetary risk and invest 2+ years of their lives to develop a new game.
As with all non-f2p games you exchange money for entertainment. Sometimes you know exactly what you are going to get and sometimes you buy into the idea and it doesn't turn out the way you wanted it to. I preordered GW2 to get into the beta and hated it. So be it
I really like what Mark Jacobs is presenting with Camelot Unchained and I'm willing to take a chance, but that chance isn't any different than buying a regular game sight unseen.
In the end it comes down to if you value your money right now more than you value a possibly great game in the future.
That being said, depending on the reward tiers I am willing to "invest" between $100 and $400 to hopefully get into the earliest alpha
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ill be contributing to it myself for the first time ever on kickstarter even if I do not like the direction the game is heading. I think this studio and MJ deserve a second chance to make another mythic down the road even though it might not be as large so anyway I can contribute to making that happen Ill be there to help. People hate on the poor guy and do not realize that EA and other factors played a part in decision making with warhammer. I found DAOC much better than war but there was still plenty in war that was fun including the public quests which people hate on but thats where both rift and guild wars 2 took their idea and improved on it. I think MJ knows what hes doing and people should contribute for the simple fact this isnt a amataur , its a real indie studio with experience. Maybe if this is successful some of the other studios will stop signing their life away to big share holder companies that do not give two shits about mmos just money.
Everyone always says when a game is bad here to speak with your wallet , well people should buck the hell up here and speak with their wallet to support a studio that isnt controlled by some big corp of greed for once as well.
Nothing.
This is a for profit company. It's not my job to pre-fund their business venture.
They need to find investors, release a quality product and then they will earn my money and get a return on their investment.
This whole kickstarter thing just doesn't sit well with me.
They have found investers, you. That is the point of kickstarter. You DO get something for investing, a game, and perks for donating.
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As much as I want to see this game developed and released,I won't back it,
especially through a system that does not guarantee money refunds in case something
goes wrong.
I will most likely buy it,if and when it comes out.
Nobody claims that it is your 'job' Investing often involves the population. In fact, thats how most stocks work. People invest in a corporation for some reward. There is nothing new there. It is also not stock investors job to do so. They do it voluntarily. In this case, I will invest whatever I'm comfortable with when they begin it. (At least I don't think they started it).
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I have to say that I agree with Ghern. I don't pay people so they will do a job for me, I pay people because they did a job for me. I'm happy that they have kickstarter programs for people to support, but I have no interest in taking part.
All of my posts are either intelligent, thought provoking, funny, satirical, sarcastic or intentionally disrespectful. Take your pick.
I get banned in the forums for games I love, so lets see if I do better in the forums for games I hate.
I enjoy the serenity of not caring what your opinion is.
I don't hate much, but I hate Apple© with a passion. If Steve Jobs was alive, I would punch him in the face.
-Ash
"The two things that are going to survive nuclear winter are going to be cockroaches and WoW." - Mark Jacobs
You can say you are an investor but in reality all you are doing is giving money away.
If you donate to a charity you get to write off that donation on your taxes.
If you invest in stocks and that stock goes up you make money in dividends and stock value if you sell.
When you give to kick starter you get nothing except some unique pixels on a screen.
Like I said, I do not feel its my place to give a for-profit company my money to hopefully get off the ground and produce a quality product.
Produce the quality product and I will happily give some of my money for the entertainment it offers.
I don't mean to act like what I think others should do, it's your money. Do with it what you please.
Yup.
Do a round of investing and hand out some of your company's equity. If CSE made CU a game for the people by the people, CSE would get their 2 million on kickstarter in a week.
Pretty much spot on.
Thats just it. People will give to kickstarter because, one the extra money won't financially backrupt them and two its something they believe and want to see it become a reality.
I'll pay $100, because I can afford it , easily. I Waste more money on eating out, casinos etc...no return there either. Atleast with this kickstarter , if it all works out, I'll have a tangible game to play that is right up my personal Alley.
No one gets my money until release and I see what is actually left from all those promises that where made. They have NOTHING to show except some random generic concept art and a design document full of wishful thinking.
"There's a sucker born every minute" - P. T. Barnum (1810–1891)
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I'm really excited to see how this game will shape up, I'm liking the whole 'no hand holding, old school mmo' idea they seem to be going for.
I'll be putting up around $100, maybe more to get alpha/beta testing access. I want to start testing/playing this game asap.
Mark Jacobs has stated that the game isn't going to be made if the Kickstarter goal isn't reached. All this means is that there is not enough interest in the game and that making the game on his own would have been a big financial mistake. Not everybody can make a succesful game, but that doesn't mean you have throw a few million dollars out of the window to find out. Even with the Kickstarter he and his company still take a huge monetary risk and invest 2+ years of their lives to develop a new game.
As with all non-f2p games you exchange money for entertainment. Sometimes you know exactly what you are going to get and sometimes you buy into the idea and it doesn't turn out the way you wanted it to. I preordered GW2 to get into the beta and hated it. So be it
I really like what Mark Jacobs is presenting with Camelot Unchained and I'm willing to take a chance, but that chance isn't any different than buying a regular game sight unseen.
In the end it comes down to if you value your money right now more than you value a possibly great game in the future.
That being said, depending on the reward tiers I am willing to "invest" between $100 and $400 to hopefully get into the earliest alpha