I love the NGE

maxdo · November 2005

I lvoe the NGE i love ToOW i love star wars galaxies

kawasi · November 2005

The new NGE changes are not THAT bad, even though it gives jedi to all and rewards current jedi with pretty useless crap, atleast its not the CU!

Burn Baby Burn

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nthnaoun · November 2005

This just goes to show that SOE was right when they said the majority of their population doesnt want to play the professions they eliminated, thus for it was warranted to combine them. We will see how more people vote since this is only after 4 votes.

daeandor · November 2005

You guys are

I cannot believe that you would say NGE was any good if:

You got above CL15 on test
You had any of your current live toons copied to test
Were a Jedi pre NGE
Ever tried to group for xp
Ever tried to do any of the CL20+ quests solo / grouped

The game is in horrible shape right now on test. The number of bugs are... insurmountable. I have spent *days* played on test, trying to like the new system but every time I go back I get more frustrated. I am merely waiting until I can test on a live server to confirm my conclusions before I cancel.

I am not going to bore you with my list of problems, but just the collision issues alone with combat are enough to make me leave.

Chernvog · November 2005

That poll is loaded. It doesn't ask if people are going to quit instead of playing one of those professions.

Luckly, I quit 10 months into the game, I should have quit long before that, but friends I had on there made it hard to leave, but the game content didn't make it hard for me to leave, the devs are the worst in the industry. Instead of making content that made the game more star warzie, they were bringing out crap like holograms over your head and giving people anime colored hair.

I seriously think SOE is trying to shut down the game for good. I can see on the forums that there are some folk who just love taking abuse. They stick with the game no matter how badly they are treated by SOE and Lucasarts. Personally, I think all the devs should be drug out into the street and shot for the way they treat their customers.

How do you expect to keep customers if you change the game on them all the time, I mean major changes that turn the game into something completely different? How do you expect people to trust you if you take away items they worked months for to collect, just to have the stupid devs delete them, or modify them so they are no longer worth while? If all your hard work is just going to get wiped out by some jerks who can't seem to make up their minds on what they want to game to be, might as well quit and find some other game that at least keeps the core game intact and doesn't wipe out your months and years of work without even an apology.

Reahreic · November 2005

well i think not they removed my fave profession the Mighty PIKEMAN
and kicked my second prfoo in the balls the USELESS jedi

Maxzius · November 2005

Originally posted by kawasi
The new NGE changes are not THAT bad, even though it gives jedi to all and rewards current jedi with pretty useless crap, atleast its not the CU!
Burn Baby Burn

You forgot an option:

- None. I cancelled my account

molecule · November 2005

Wow, I really wish more people would stop by the forums and let us know that they are quitting/have already quit.

Don't let the door hit ya...

Ragemaster · November 2005

Originally posted by Chernvog

That poll is loaded. It doesn't ask if people are going to quit instead of playing one of those professions.
Luckly, I quit 10 months into the game, I should have quit long before that, but friends I had on there made it hard to leave, but the game content didn't make it hard for me to leave, the devs are the worst in the industry. Instead of making content that made the game more star warzie, they were bringing out crap like holograms over your head and giving people anime colored hair.
I seriously think SOE is trying to shut down the game for good. I can see on the forums that there are some folk who just love taking abuse. They stick with the game no matter how badly they are treated by SOE and Lucasarts. Personally, I think all the devs should be drug out into the street and shot for the way they treat their customers.
How do you expect to keep customers if you change the game on them all the time, I mean major changes that turn the game into something completely different? How do you expect people to trust you if you take away items they worked months for to collect, just to have the stupid devs delete them, or modify them so they are no longer worth while? If all your hard work is just going to get wiped out by some jerks who can't seem to make up their minds on what they want to game to be, might as well quit and find some other game that at least keeps the core game intact and doesn't wipe out your months and years of work without even an apology.

The NGE was an important thing to add to SWG for the long term health of the game. Without it SWG would have eventually died. the original CU1 was what laid the ground work for NGE, tho we werent told of it until nearely a week before its launch. I am a veteran SWG player (played on and off since release) and i have to say NGE is what SWG should have been all along. It may be a little bugged and unbalanced between ranged and meele for example but the devs will tweak it alot in the coming weeks. The only reason i reactivated my account recently btw was to test the NGE and I love it for the most part. I am happy to report I wil be staying with SWG, because it does have good content but most important is the COMMUNITY. And for the record, I have a level 60 warrior on World of warcraft (bloodscalp, pvp server) and a CL 80 master creature handler/master pistoleer on SWG and i have to say because of the NGE i am going to prolly sell my warrior and come back to play SWG. Why? Because SWG is so much better now.

starman999 · November 2005

good.

I for one am excited about the changes. I believe that with Jedi no longer the alpha class it once was people will be more inclined to pursue other carreers.

I for one hope that they keep pressure on the jedi through NPC harrassment so to speak. In my opinion they should bring back the saber tef. If a high level dark jedi or bounty hunter came after you every time you whipped out your glow rod then you would be alot less likely to show it off in public.

This and reinstating player bounties would discourage all but the most dedicated jedi from playing the class.

Scaris · November 2005

Originally posted by starman999
good.
I for one am excited about the changes. I believe that with Jedi no longer the alpha class it once was people will be more inclined to pursue other carreers.
I for one hope that they keep pressure on the jedi through NPC harrassment so to speak. In my opinion they should bring back the saber tef. If a high level dark jedi or bounty hunter came after you every time you whipped out your glow rod then you would be alot less likely to show it off in public.
This and reinstating player bounties would discourage all but the most dedicated jedi from playing the class.

What other careers? The entire game is combat-centric now. I think I prefered having uber jedi to losing all the non-combat aspects of the game that it had pre-CU.

Wepps · November 2005

The poll is irrelevent. Those of us that have been around a while have masteries all over the place.

I'll probably be trying all of them, as I have many of them anyway.

daeandor · November 2005

I seriously cannot believe that you guys saying you are coming back now because of NGE have played on test over the past ~2 weeks. The experience although new has been anything but fun.

Scaris · November 2005

Originally posted by daeandor
I seriously cannot believe that you guys saying you are coming back now because of NGE have played on test over the past ~2 weeks. The experience although new has been anything but fun.

I have a hard time beleiving any beta vet is coming back because of this. I have a hard time beleiving any person that has ever played SWG is coming back because of this actually.

Erillion · November 2005

Speaking of my own server Naritus now .. old veterans ARE coming back (from 2003 and early 2004, before the Jedi holocron insanity started). As an example here is a link to my guilds homepage and a post from one of them

http://www.impslave.com/forum2/viewtopic.php?t=1147

The NGE seems to generate more interest with these veterans than amongst most of the current players.

Have fun

Erillion

Scaris · November 2005

[quote]Originally posted by Erillion
[b]Speaking of my own server Naritus now .. old veterans ARE coming back (from 2003 and early 2004, before the Jedi holocron insanity started). As an example here is a link to my guilds homepage and a post from one of them
[url=http://www.impslave.com/forum2/viewtopic.php?t=1147]
The NGE seems to generate more interest with these veterans than amongst most of the current players.
Have fun
Erillion [/b][/quote]

That looks like a person that is solely going off Schmedley's marketting hype and slants on why they did the changes and isn't actually resubbing after doing extensive testing on the NGE. I am referring to people that have extensively tested the NGE and are coming back and staying because of that.

Wepps · November 2005

Originally posted by Fadeus
That looks like a person that is solely going off Schmedley's marketting hype and slants on why they did the changes and isn't actually resubbing after doing extensive testing on the NGE. I am referring to people that have extensively tested the NGE and are coming back and staying because of that.

I don't believe a word of it.

However, who can REALLY argue that SWG didn't need a major content change? Although I disagree with their methods, if their intent is to FINISH what they started, and actually apply the potential immersion of the characters you build to the Star Wars Universe, then I have to agree with SOE's change in this case.

I hate the fact that we had to come so far into the live version for them to finally make that realization, that content is found in the professions first, and I don't care what they are doing with this ToOW refund, it was still borderline criminal for them to do so.

But if nothing more than for the sake of learning, I will be renewing tomorrow (and probably not even playing by the weekend with all the people and lag I'll be experiencing lol).

Elnator · November 2005

Originally posted by Wepps
Originally posted by FadeusThat looks like a person that is solely going off Schmedley's marketting hype and slants on why they did the changes and isn't actually resubbing after doing extensive testing on the NGE. I am referring to people that have extensively tested the NGE and are coming back and staying because of that.

I don't believe a word of it.

However, who can REALLY argue that SWG didn't need a major content change? Although I disagree with their methods, if their intent is to FINISH what they started, and actually apply the potential immersion of the characters you build to the Star Wars Universe, then I have to agree with SOE's change in this case.

I hate the fact that we had to come so far into the live version for them to finally make that realization, that content is found in the professions first, and I don't care what they are doing with this ToOW refund, it was still borderline criminal for them to do so.

But if nothing more than for the sake of learning, I will be renewing tomorrow (and probably not even playing by the weekend with all the people and lag I'll be experiencing lol).

I'm not renewing. I'm going to pick up the free trial sometime next week and try it then. No way am I re-newing so that they can count me as a 'subscriber' in their next quarterly report.

Scaris · November 2005

Originally posted by Wepps
Originally posted by FadeusThat looks like a person that is solely going off Schmedley's marketting hype and slants on why they did the changes and isn't actually resubbing after doing extensive testing on the NGE. I am referring to people that have extensively tested the NGE and are coming back and staying because of that.

I don't believe a word of it.

However, who can REALLY argue that SWG didn't need a major content change? Although I disagree with their methods, if their intent is to FINISH what they started, and actually apply the potential immersion of the characters you build to the Star Wars Universe, then I have to agree with SOE's change in this case.

I hate the fact that we had to come so far into the live version for them to finally make that realization, that content is found in the professions first, and I don't care what they are doing with this ToOW refund, it was still borderline criminal for them to do so.

But if nothing more than for the sake of learning, I will be renewing tomorrow (and probably not even playing by the weekend with all the people and lag I'll be experiencing lol).

Sorry, I don't beleive their intent is anything other then being able to market it to a different generation on a different gaming medium (console gaming) and they have been using the same excuse (people want faster combat) to justify every change they have made since the CU was announced. They have no intention to finish anything.

pirrg · November 2005

Im playing an officer or commando as it seems those are the most unpopular combat professions right now.

Dis_Ordur · November 2005

Originally posted by Erillion

Speaking of my own server Naritus now .. old veterans ARE coming back (from 2003 and early 2004, before the Jedi holocron insanity started). As an example here is a link to my guilds homepage and a post from one of them
http://www.impslave.com/forum2/viewtopic.php?t=1147
The NGE seems to generate more interest with these veterans than amongst most of the current players.
Have fun
Erillion

You state that on your server "old veterans ARE coming back", yet you give an example of only one person... Surely you have more testimonials to people who have tried the NGE and are actually resubscribing, right? Any concrete numbers? The only reason why I question it, is that I am a long time vet, pre holo-orgy days and I have zero interest in coming back... In fact, my entire guild that used to exist on the Tarquinas server also has zero interest in coming back... We know how buggy the launches are, and downgrading to 9 proffessions isn't floating anyone's boat these days... I think you are over-exaggerating... On the other hand, there is a pretty amazing list of cancellations listed on the Ahazi server boards on the SWG boards...

Erillion · November 2005

Originally posted by Dis_Ordur

Originally posted by Erillion

Speaking of my own server Naritus now .. old veterans ARE coming back (from 2003 and early 2004, before the Jedi holocron insanity started). As an example here is a link to my guilds homepage and a post from one of them
http://www.impslave.com/forum2/viewtopic.php?t=1147
The NGE seems to generate more interest with these veterans than amongst most of the current players.
Have fun
Erillion

You state that on your server "old veterans ARE coming back", yet you give an example of only one person...

--> Thats why its called an EXAMPLE. Understand the concept ?

Surely you have more testimonials to people who have tried the NGE and are actually resubscribing, right? Any concrete numbers?

--> I can only speak about my own friend list (and that relates to my own server). 9 names have appeared online that I have not seen for 1.5 years. Some names I added back in summer 2003.

The only reason why I question it, is that I am a long time vet, pre holo-orgy days and I have zero interest in coming back... In fact, my entire guild that used to exist on the Tarquinas server also has zero interest in coming back...

--> Well, my guild obviously DOES have an interest. If you check the website, you see that from our SWG roots we have become a multi game guild and people do come back after years to check out SWG. Which does not stop others from dropping it for months on end to try something different. But most come back. Its all about a good community .. in the guild, on the server.

--> And - as you can see there too - it does not stop us from criticising them game on our forum where it needs criticism.

We know how buggy the launches are, and downgrading to 9 proffessions isn't floating anyone's boat these days... I think you are over-exaggerating...

--> No. I am reporting what I see. I extrapolate from what I see. I say my observations relate to MY server. Your mileage may vary.

On the other hand, there is a pretty amazing list of cancellations listed on the Ahazi server boards on the SWG boards...

--> Well .. Ahazi has too many people anyway .. so .. GO GO GO. I wonder how many clicked on it just because it was the first name on the list. LOL.

--> Have fun, Erillion

pirrg · November 2005

That last counter was very very weak erellion. Just felt i had to sayit.

Veterans are coming back tough. Me and one of my mates played since october of 2003, we both cancelld within 3-4 months because of the absolute suckage that was and still is SWG. The NGE has sparked our interest in the game again and the same goes for alot of vets from our guild.

Id say veterans are comming back in droves and only 10% of those whom threaten with cancellation are really cancelling. Mr Smedley's own words.

Wepps · November 2005

I'm sorry but Mr. Smedley is no Walt Disney.

Nevertheless, I'm coming back for sure. At least 3 months, maybe more if they actually finish what they started this time.

pirrg · November 2005

So hes not an anti simetic fascist bastard. Even so, i think we can trust him.

Wepps · November 2005

Originally posted by pirrg
So hes not an anti simetic fascist bastard. Even so, i think we can trust him.

Sure. We can trust him to tell us exactly what we want to hear. Would you expect anything else from a business manager?

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