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Star Wars Galaxies... Lives!
Ragemaster
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Attention all players! I am a veteran SWG player, having played on and off since release way back in 03. I just wanted to let everyone new know, that all this DOOMSAYING propaganda you hear from players is completely UNTRUE. SWG is NOT dieing , in fact, the new NGE changes, while fundamentelly changing the gameplay of SWG, is for the BETTER. People, naturally, are afriad of change, and would rather stick to the 'old way'. SWG has changed its core game mechanics with the release of NGE or New Game Enhancements. While many people say nge sucks, there are many, including myself, a veteran, who cant believed i played the utter CRAP that is pre NGE. Combat is more fun and action packed, more strategy based, MORE star wars like. The old "take turns" shooting eachother back and forth (think eq with guns) was utter garb and not worthy of the star wars name. THINK ABOUT IT. Now combat is chaotic, unpredicitble, with lasers flying every which way and people going down in tremndous hail of fire. Seriously, how could you NOT like the NGE combat system? As for the jedi class, get a GRIP people. The only people complaining about jedi being a regular profession is those elitist few who had the profession and could wtfpwn most classes in the game 1 on 1. If you havnt learned already, ALPHA classes just dont work in a mmo. To help combat the alpha class, jedi, they made it take a 3-6 month grind to get it! THREE TO SIX MONTHS. Only middle schoolers or low life lamer adults who live in their parents basement could POSSIBLY take on this task and accomplish it with any reasonable amount of time. Devs knew that they couldnt have jedi be alpha anymore, and so changed it to a regular profession. Now casual gamers and average gamers can become jedi, and enjoy the fun of being one of star wars most mythical and legendary characters. The only doomsaying you will hear comes from the ELITIST few who are no longer "ALPHA DOG". As for 30 professions being cut down to 9, well it was needed! Trust me, I was master creature handler (what a joke) and master pistoleer. They removed the proffessions that were bug ridden, unbalanced, and utterely did not fit in star wars universe. No more rancor pets for us! This wanst ment to be pokeman galaxies anyway. SOE has made some bad changes throughout the course of galaxies, however, the choice to implement NGE is probably the best desicision they have EVER made. Nuff said.
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Gee, another brand new person to the site claiming to be a veteran SWG player. Who would have thought?
BTW, paragraphs my friend, give them a try.
- Scaris
"What happened to you, Star Wars Galaxies? You used to look like Leia. Not quite gold bikini Leia (more like bad-British-accent-and-cinnamon-bun-hair Leia), but still Leia nonetheless. Now you look like Chewbacca." - Computer Gaming World
I might have suspected a SOE employee posting this except it was so poorly written.
And sorry, but Im not buying your snake oil. Taking combat from dozens of specialized attack moves which required thought down to left mouse or right mouse is pretty dumbed down.
SOE should change this to Battlefront 2.5 and mmorpg.com should remove it from the list. This game no longer qualifies as a mmorpg.
Yeah, sure. All specials are gone and you don't assign them by pressing a numeric key in the first place.
The game has been dumbed down, but to claim its no longer a mmorpg is insane. Bascially its now on the same level as WoW, in general complexity (other than housing, etc). Quests, killing and crafting that is more an "on the side" thing.
It probably is a SOE employee, they aren't genuises you know :P
Any how, this vet of SWG, from the first 11 months of the game, is not going back to SWG.
I have no faith in SOE to deliver a bug-free game. I have no faith in SOE to tell us the
TRUTH. I don't believe anything that spews out of their propaganda web site or pr mouth
pieces.
This game is going to console hell, that's the truth of it.
You might be a vet of SWG, but you don't speak for the rest of us. If you're going back,
it's because you didn't learn your lesson the first time around.
The fact that this game has gone through so many major changes in such a short time,
means that it is in deep banta buddo and they are scrambling to try to stave off the
eventual plug pulling of this MMO that is on lifesupport. The fact that this game wasn't
designed well enough to withstand core changes from the begining tells me the developers
are some of the worst game designers in the industry.
It's really too bad, cause I am a fan of the original trilogy and I wanted the game to be
great. SOE and LA just screwed it up totally, from the start.
On the subject of SWG there is only one thing to say, and I am pretty sure the majority agrees with me here:
I would love... SWG II. Because the concept is nice, nothing wrong with the idea of a SWG MMO. But the actual product has been flawed since beta (I was there and adressed most of these issues for deaf ears. As in EQ II beta, developers and fan bois thought everything was dandy, all the way to release. THEN suddenly they opened their eyes) and these changes upon changes reflect that perfectly.
They made a bad product out of a good idea. So kill this piece of junk and start from scratch. And this time, make it work from start.
"This is not a game to be tossed aside lightly.
It should be thrown with great force"
Well it could be argued that SWG:NGE is SWG II, or at least will become it. SWG is no more as of today, its something new.
Personally feel they should have just stuck with the CU and followed their previous path with SWG. Then come out with a new game, that included all these changes and wouldn't make veterans feel like they were beta testing the next product.
Of course this is an $OE employee... didn't you hear that they removed the return key from all their employee's keyboards?
They said it complicates things and isn't fun for gameplay.
And the PS3 has no return key.
Shayde - SWG (dead)
Proud member of the Cabal.
It sounds great, so great in fact, I pitty those who canceled
I don't like it when you say things. - A Vanguard fan who does too.
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I don't know what's up with people
I really like the changes. I might even reactivate my old account. But what I don't understand by the "true" SWG fans is their total disbelief in anything else than the release version of the game. And if somebody likes it their flamed with things like SOE worker or brainless 12 year old kid.
I am going to reserve judgement till I download the trial and play it myself.
Suffice to say I'm going to TRY to keep an open mind about it. But I'm going in skeptical.
Currently Playing: Dungeons and Dragons Online.
Sig image Pending
Still in: A couple Betas
At least you are going to TRY it. Most people are too stubborn to even do that. Shows a lot about you
Has nothing to do with stubborn, has everything to do with the dev teams treatment to the playerbase since launch and their business practices. I don't care of the NGE is THE new way of gaming, if the development team continues to handle things as they do and spit in the faces of the players then the game deserves to sink.
And looking at the current state of the release, it appears nothing has changed. Its yet another record number of bugs in a publish release. Bugs that the PAYING public tested and found for them and they coouldn't bother to fix before making the PAYING public deal with it on release.
- Scaris
"What happened to you, Star Wars Galaxies? You used to look like Leia. Not quite gold bikini Leia (more like bad-British-accent-and-cinnamon-bun-hair Leia), but still Leia nonetheless. Now you look like Chewbacca." - Computer Gaming World
When I read the thread topic I thought this was going to be an announcement of a pre-CU pirate server. Instead it's just another SOE cheerleader in denial.
Actually, this is how you can tell an SOE developer sneaking onto the boards.
The code for SWG looks exactly like that!
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"For one who seeks what he cannot obtain suffers torture; one who has what is not desirable is cheated; and one who does not seek what is worth seeking is diseased." - Augustine of Hippo
I am tempted to try it, but I ill NOT. SOE got enough money from me.
What a flippant comment. Who here hasn't tried it? Everyone I know who quit tried it first. Typical $OE fanboi response.. if you hate it you never tried it. They said it with the CU, they say it now.
They're still wrong.
Shayde - SWG (dead)
Proud member of the Cabal.
It sounds great, so great in fact, I pitty those who canceled
I don't like it when you say things. - A Vanguard fan who does too.
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At least try their free trial.
I can understand if Creature handlers and other profs. that got the shafts that don't want to play anymore. Some people I noticed are just pissed because though. Most of these people complaining can't be THAT attached to this game as it has always been rocky when it comes to devs ability to fix the game. EVERYONE that has been playing should have been used to all this nonsense since the release.
When people wern't complaining about the origional game, they were complaining about the CU, when they wernt complaining about the CU they were complaining about the NGE, now they hate the NGE, LOVE the CU2 and Love the origional MORE. Back in the day, most people couldn't stand to play the origional. Most people couldn't stand the CU and now most people can't stand the NGE.
See a pattern here? SWG is probably always going to be like this. They are going to try drastic new elements all time and the community is always going to be split in two.
EDIT:
Oh yeah I actually was having a blast until they announced the Trials of Obi Wan. Then I ran for the CANCEL button. What kind of stupid EFF'ing expansion is based on jedi when you can't get them from the start. I also was pissed of the most retarded planet they could possibley add..... Mustafar...
They should have done Hoth or hell even the ANYTHING other than mustafar. Another instance piece of crap like Kyshyyk. As you can see I am far from a fan boi and am still really pissed at that expansion. I never wanted to come back until I heard about these interesting changes.
Still not going to buy the stupidest EFF'ing expansion they could make though.
So because I am not a creature handler or other non-com I should be ok with their handling of certain professions? Gee, you seem to be so into patterns, how about the dev's patterns?
They have consistently torn the game down into a level based combat centric game over the last year removing the greatest strengths from a game that was supposed to convey the star wars universe to the gaming public. Instead what we got was an attempt at conveyance of star wars combat to the gaming public packaged as an MMO.
The game has changed radically 2 times now and there is no stability and guarantee it won't happen again. MOST people don't like to pay for something when they don't know what that thing is from one day to the next. I DO NOT want to pay for a game that is going to use me as a test bed for drastic new elements whenever someone in marketting gets a brainstorm.
Do yourself a favor and stop trying to defend the NGE, everything you are using as an arguement only makes your arguement harder.
- Scaris
"What happened to you, Star Wars Galaxies? You used to look like Leia. Not quite gold bikini Leia (more like bad-British-accent-and-cinnamon-bun-hair Leia), but still Leia nonetheless. Now you look like Chewbacca." - Computer Gaming World
Lol. You are saying that anyone who enjoys these changes, can't say they are good, because you have decided they are bad?
Lol. You are saying that anyone who enjoys these changes, can't say they are good, because you have decided they are bad?
No, he is telling me that I suck at trying to defend the NGE (Which is true) so I am just going to shut up about it and play the game.
Lol. You are saying that anyone who enjoys these changes, can't say they are good, because you have decided they are bad?
Nope, I was implying that the points he is using for defense are actually points I would use against the NGE.
However I think I came across abit harsh to ya with it Sidebuster, nothing personal. I am sorry if I offended you, I took it alittle personal when you started saying people were just stubborn about not wanting to give it another try.
- Scaris
"What happened to you, Star Wars Galaxies? You used to look like Leia. Not quite gold bikini Leia (more like bad-British-accent-and-cinnamon-bun-hair Leia), but still Leia nonetheless. Now you look like Chewbacca." - Computer Gaming World
See, that's filled with misconceptions.
1. The pre-cu game wasn't hated. Sure, a few powergamers and pvp junkies bitched. Overall most enjoyed playing. If they released ROTW or ToOW pre-cu we'd have been in heaven.
2. When the CU came out.. 80% said "no thanks". They pushed it anyway, and we all can see how successful that mess was.
The community has actually stuck with SWG after all this despite their best efforts to screw us. That's ending... today.
Shayde - SWG (dead)
Proud member of the Cabal.
It sounds great, so great in fact, I pitty those who canceled
I don't like it when you say things. - A Vanguard fan who does too.
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Lol. You are saying that anyone who enjoys these changes, can't say they are good, because you have decided they are bad?
Nope, I was implying that the points he is using for defense are actually points I would use against the NGE.
However I think I came across abit harsh to ya with it Sidebuster, nothing personal. I am sorry if I offended you, I took it alittle personal when you started saying people were just stubborn about not wanting to give it another try.
So if I say that I think the game is more fun now than before the NGE. How does that make your points stronger?