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You mean the feeling of all mmos? Welcome to the genre.
kill -> loot -> sell
Huh? He said TSW was a better product. What majority of anyone agrees with that? Tossing out words like "majority" is a fallacy in the making, especially when you add "the internets".
How about this.
I played the game at release for about two months. It made no progression, on degressed. It is not a good game. Most games out right now are much better. End of fucking story. GW2 is bad.
How about this.
The user scores on Metacritic actually started decreasing recently, citing the addition of "progression" as the reason, because that's not why people bought it. End of fucking story. You like different kinds of games.
Have a cookie and chillax.
I agree totally. GW2 combat is so much different than TSW. I like them both but they feel different imho.
I guess what matters most is that there are thousands of players who enjoy it and the negative comments are from those who just don't care for it. It's not a big dealio.
My only gripe is everyone that has there opinion about a game and it's negative, never posts what they are playing that is superior. If we are all here to discuss mmorpgs, we should have the courtesy of helping each other once in a while.
Death is nothing to us, since when we are, Death has not come, and when death has come, we are not.
Heavily Active ?...From what I can remember I wrote a couple of times in the GW2 forum , the reason was mosty because fans of GW2 were herassing TSW forums..They came out at very much the same time at Funcoms demise..:)
All things I have said about GW2 is things that should be common knowledge(atleast I think so) And If I said I disliked solo friendly games in a converstion about GW2 , well..then It's because It's common knowledge that GW2 is rather solo friendly..Isnt that right ?
And..Ok..You got me..I lost all my credibilty now
Not exactly sure what you are trying to prove even, It's not that you would agree with me on my view of GW2 anyway even after I actually played it...Or would you ?
-Im not trustworthy
So you guys that agree with me , you can't !! I'm Sorry..
So..can we please drop this extremly silly conversation were you try to discredit me and I'm trying to defend myself..I didnt play It before, but now I did...
And so you don't get any other bright ideas I played it very short and I tried 2 classes one Asura Necromancer and one Human Ranger..The Human ranger felt better than the Asura Necromancer..
And as I said in my starter post, I played it "very limited" so It would indicate that I have very low experience with the game, If I would be trying to bully you GW2 fans for your game or even have the slightest reason to do so..I would never even have mentioned this at all .
You need to explain it to these folks, they along with thousands of others missed your comment.
edit: And because people don't like something doesn't necessarily make it "bad". If you don't like it so be it, it's still an awesome game to many of us including critiics who have scored it as an outstanding game.
Death is nothing to us, since when we are, Death has not come, and when death has come, we are not.
OP is a phony. Booooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
I was refering to what the game costed back then at release..I haven't looked up the price right now , but I can see that the price has dropped to 37.99 Euro at the official GW2 site, but also has this "regularly 54.99" so don't know if it's on sale or anything..
Actually the graphics and character animations are quite nice, don't know what you were smoking through your trial. You say that TSW is better? Okay, now I know you're on drugs, considering the animations and graphics for The Failed World was like trying to drive a car with square wheels. You should get yourself checked into a rehab clinic asap.
In a world of sharp knives, you would be a spoon.
This is a bit childish, but since several posters has stamped me as untrustworthy etc just for partaking in discussions in the GW2 forums without mentioning that I actually did not play GW2 back then, just to discredit my opening post..Well..:)
this is a poll from 08/22-2012 where is specifically say that I do not have any intentions of playing GW2 until I grow tired of TSW..
http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/post/5231310#5231310
Well. I also read some of the posts in the actual GW2 forums, the things I said was in GW2 threads , but things like "forced soloing" contra "grouping" is subjects that holds special interesst to me..I never once (atleast not in the posts I read) said I was actually playing this game..I also didnt say I wasn't playing the game thou..But I can't see how that should be needed in every single post you make..
game on
Does it really matter though? I understood what he is getting at. The whole quest system in GW2 really isn't all that revolutionary. It is the same crap in a different skin. Only now it is auto accept and auto turn-in. Same boring tasks. I like some parts of the game and it isn't bad overall. It just doesn't have that catch for me. It is kind of bland and nothing really stands out......
James T. Kirk: All she's got isn't good enough! What else ya got?
Read the first page again. I was the fool who tried to defend you against the angry fans. Why? because i was under the impression that you actually gave your genuine feedback after playing the game for first time. I had no idea you made posts on GW2 earlier on criticising the game on pure hear say.
So yeah i did take your feedback seriously till i reallised that you already had a lot to say about GW2 and its game features and icing on the cake? you didn't even play GW2 untill now.
By the way anyone can get a common knowledge on basis of what you see in videos and what others write on the forums. But smart people make their own mind before arriving to conclusions. You jumped the gun because you couldn't help yourself and you had to say something bad about GW2. That is the problem there and that is why these forums are such a mess.
If only you had waited to actually play the game and then given your criticism people would have taken what you said more seriously.
And stop referring to me as a "GW2 fan'. I am not a fan of any MMO around here and if i was a GW2 fan i would never defend your right to opinion on very first page. A mistake i will never make again.
Yet again people are saying TSW and GW2 combat are miles different, anyone care to elaborate?
- Both have non tab targeting combat
- Both can dodge
- Both have auto aim spells/skills
- Both hit the target infront regardless if you wanted to aim at the one on the back
So what is so revolutionary on GW2 that makes it so different?
All I can think at the top of my head is the possibility on making skill combos but apart of that what else?
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OP you are not the only one that didn't get a good feeling at the start of the game even I didn't but I forced msyelf to keep on going and was enjoying it afterwards. I started as sylvari mesmer in melee which is something not many try to do as mesmer is a little squishy but I found it fun with the sword/pistol combos and blowing clones can be fun
GW2 is not the revolutionary game people keep on saying but it's not crap either.
1. TSW's combat is built around builders and finishers. This causes the combat to become incredibly repetitive.
2. You can only use up to 7 skills at one time. This causes the combat to be incredibly repetitive unless you constantly switch between specs which you can not do during combat.
3. The combat animations in TSW are poor in my opinion. GW2 animations are much smoother and make more sense with the combat. Although both games can feel floaty at times.
4. GW2 has far more skills available to the user at one time offering more tactical combat in general during a single combat encounter. This is particularly true for PvP where you are often attempting to pre-emp or counter another player with the many tools available to you.
5. Input delay. The actual key presses of skills in GW2 are more reactive. When you press a key, the skill begins going off which can be seen through a small cast bar (or sometimes it goes off instant). In TSW, there is often a delay for whatever reason.
6. The variety of skills in both games is pretty good, but the uniqueness of skills in GW2 far surpasses TSW. A good example would be making clones of yourself and switching between them as a mezmer. The engineer as a class is just insane compared to anything TSW has to offer.
7. The balance in GW2 in PvP is just superior to TSW in my opinion. While no game ever achieves balance, TSW should be ashamed of what they were capable of achieving with balance for PvP.
GW2 may not be revolutionary, but when it comes to combat, it far surpasses TSW in many ways. I don't hate TSW, I think it has some nice things to offer, but it's fairly obvious to me combat was not their focus while in GW2 it appears to be one of the primary focuses.
Yet most of your points have nothing to do with actual differences but more aesthetics and responsivness, so again I say there isn't this whole difference everyone keeps on claiming it has.
There are unique stuff now that TSW added the auxiliary weapon slot (Rocket Launcher, Chainsaw and something else or another 2) but sure I guess if you like weapon switching during combat as I don't like that feature on gw2 as it was forced in raids/pvp.
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Now I'm no TSW fanboy I stopped playing it then starting again as I don't know why but it doesn't grab me for long and I played my share of GW2 with 2 lvl 80s (Mesmer and Elementalist) but I don't see much difference.
I'll just say mesmer was the most enjoyable for me but I wished I could spec more in melee despite it being fragile yet I was forced to go ranged in raids if I didn't want to die fast. (Sword/Pistol build is awesome regardless of what anyone says)
I also wish more games had a class like this. I love seeing the clones of myself attacking, could provide a great tactical setup in pvp if it was made useful unlike GW2 where clones dissapear if the target dies instead of remaining alive.
Um... the points I laid out had a shitload of "actual" differences. Not being able to see the difference and there not being differences are two different things. If you really think they play the same after playing for that long, then there is nothing I can do to convince you. But to me, they are worlds apart.
Just as a side note, shatter your clones to finish off opponents in PvP (or at least do something with them before the person targeted with illusions goes down).
TSW shines in some areas and GW2 shines in others. Both games have their pros and cons. Ironically in some ways they excel in areas the other is lacking in.
The real winner are those that can appreciate both games because they're both worth checking out. Neither is simply going to be the holy grail for many.
1. For god's sake mmo gamers, enough with the analogies. They're unnecessary and your comparisons are terrible, dissimilar, and illogical.
2. To posters feeling the need to state how f2p really isn't f2p: Players understand the concept. You aren't privy to some secret the rest are missing. You're embarrassing yourself.
3. Yes, Cpt. Obvious, we're not industry experts. Now run along and let the big people use the forums for their purpose.
You do realize that we are in a GW2 forum where someone is saying that, "TSW is by all counts a far greater product." He also says that the animations are "super bad." Perhaps you should be asking that guy why he insists on comparing the two and insulting one over the other. I don't know. I was just expressing my opinion about both combat systems.
I think the RPG part in GW2 is superior to TSW as well. Maybe we favor different things about RPG though. For instance you may love the story elements more and I may love the open world elements more.