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The community over at DnL has turned so sour I don't even want to visit the site any longer.
In fact, I don't. Every time I have a momentary lapse of sanity, I check the English forums just in case something new/interesting has been posted. Instead, I'm greeted by fanbois and suckers bragging about how they blew 59.99 on a pre-pay (not a pre-order) and how awesome it was paying top dollar for thin air. They want to justify spending money on something retarded.
If not one of those posts, it's some moron who is speculating about a job/class (they wouldn't have to speculate of NP3 would release some information), or some noob asking how to download the game. I can't remember the last time I actually left the forums at darkandlight.net and actually felt good about the project. <?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" />
What we wanted was an escape from the WoW's and EQ's of the world...what we got was their trash. The community now sickens me. The mods are moronic. The devs disappoint me time after time.
I hope they manage to put out a decent product with all the new sucker-money they just raked in over the past few days. But don't expect me to cruise the worthless forums over there. They are full of some of the worst idiots I've ever seen. Very few people remain that don't have a join date of summer 2005. Most of the 2003 and 2004 folks have packed up. They are smart.
See you in the game, if it ever happens.
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I'm guessing you've never visited the WoW forums.(And don't even try to say that the WoW forums are better)
But yes, I will agree that the majority of the posters on the site are complete idiots. But you have to remember that there is a very large number of quality gamers, but they just don't speak up and post on the DnL.net forums, they stick to their guild forums. So what you are left with at the DnL.net forums are the same few people who post useless things over and over, it just seems like so many because they post so much.(there are quite a few people I have spotted with over 50 posts per day!!)
The handful of ppl here who absolutely hate the game but keep posting is amazing. What a bunch of freaking morons.
Take all that hate to another game, cause this one is gonna make it.
/boggle
I'm one of the 2003 crowds, used to be one of the game's biggest fanbois and even built a Stratics site for it and I've packed up. Thank god. DnL had the potential to be a great game, but I am absolutely sure now that they wasted that potential. SoG will be the final nail into the coffin of that "game". Those who pre-payed for SoG just don't know yet what awaits them. Blissfully they propagate how great DnL will be without knowing anything substantial about the game or the company behind it. December 8th will be another sad milestone in the history of MMOGs - the release of DnL will compete with Mourning for the worst MMOG release of all time. Ladies and gentlemen - fasten your seatbelts.
"Fire is never a gentle master..."
Acutally, if you want to escape WoW or EQ2, why the heck are you playing DnL, It is Fantasy MMORPG wich has samelike graphics with EQ2.
I suggest Auto Assault, EVE or PotBS if you are trying to escape from the usual fantasy genre.
I kinda agree. I think it is amusing watching the illerate tards brag, whine, and etc. I know prior to the Sog announcement it was a friendly environment. Everyone was helping eachother find information. It was such a sight to see. Then came preorders.... It tore the community apart Fanbois vs the Weary Denizens of the DarkandLight forums. What an impact of people paying 60.00 would have an such a colossus impact. I can't see why people having the insight to determine; "I don't want to pay that", "OMG I know if I can't get my Uber r0x0rs dragon im not gonna plays jez game...", and etc. Its so annoying ain't it? Another thing people don't understand the search button in that forum
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Nice post.
I have been a member of the DnL forums since 2003 and I agree with the OP the forum has gotten so much worse. The fanboys have moved so far away from reality they take everything that happens as a sign that DnL will somehow be the savior for all disgruntled MMORPG fans. They even took the pre-order webboard meltdown as a good job by NP3. Now they are in full attack mode since the pre-order sold out. They contend that because there are 8,880 other people as dumb as they are (btw I am one of those 8,000) that their contention that DnL is the be all and end all of online games has to be right.
I can't wait to see how the fanboys react to the even greater fiasco of December 8th when they see how bad SoG really is. I am sure they will say its not DnL its not the true game and so on. December 8th is just a disaster waiting to happen. I have little confidence that DnL will turn out to be anything more substantial than Irth or Mourning.
I guess you just lost your life then. I didn't pre-pay SoG and I will never play DnL. Stratics was (and still is) the prime destination for DnL info - which shows how utterly incompetent the devs are. Their website is a glaring lack of info about their game - a sign of their lacking professionalism. I just lost interest in DnL some time ago (like many other former longtime supporters of that project) and that's that. Come December 8th, I'll be one of the first mofos pointing the finger at the fanbois and yelling "Neener neener, we told ya so!"
The only irony in it is that I was once a supporter of DnL and now write how my experience was and why the game will fail. I had my hope for a great game shattered when Wish was cancelled. Many many people will experience the same thing when DnL is released. I am opposing developers who try to sell crap to the community and get away with it, because it shows other devs that easy money is quickly made if only you hype your game enough and deceive the people long enough for them to buy it. With your pre-pay money you supported this business practice, because NP3/Farlan are exactly like that.
"Fire is never a gentle master..."
Then why pay for the pre-order?
Also i am curious how people can bash a game without actually playing it?
Pure speculation mate. If it was crap why didnt they release the game now? At least they are being honest and saying they need more time to finish the game and giving us the fans something to play for free in the mean time a stand alone game.
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Can't wait to see the aneurysm from all these people trashing the game on pure speculation on the game being delayed.. well for 3 years. Some of these people are so sure themselfs without hard evidence. I can understand be spectacle but at this Preaching Nutty Level is unbelieve. Or maybe they will be right none of the two sides are sure.
I miss DAoC
This whole pre-order campaign strikes me as extremely suspicious. Considering the extremely small ammount of info they have released about the game im thinking were looking at another Mourning in the making.
I certainly hope im wrong though because DnL would be the perfect game for me. Come december 8, we shall see.
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-W.
I've found that online community's for mmo's will typically get to this sort of behavior whenever they are being treated poorly and I think right now alot of DnL's fans felt like they've been turned over once to often.
By going the route they have, the DnL dev team have succesfully poised one group of their community against the other, creating tension and backlash and whats most puzzling is they really don't seem to care.
Time will tell whether this has any real affect on the success of the game but the seemingly complete lack of respect for a player base they don't even have yet has driven me away from wanting to play the game, let alone be appart of the community, I'm sure I'm not the only one that feels the same way.
Not exactly a positive start for an industry that relies so heavily on the community to be succesful.
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ya I logged in briefly to the forums there and the amount of hate drove me away.
besides after following this game for 3 years i think I get the gist of what the game will be like. that is, when and if I decide to even play it.
that $60 pre-order is a friggin joke.
"If you want a picture of the future, imagine a robot foot stomping on a human face -- forever."
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I must admit that it's hard to counter all the naysayers, most of what they say is true.
There have been repeated postponements of the launch, and the only thing that NP3 can be relied on for at this stage, is missing their own deadlines. In fact, the only pre-announced thing that they have actually stuck to was the occasional Dev chat ! Their PR is non-existant, and they couldn't seem to care less about it. As a longtime SOE customer, I'm quite used to lack of customer relations, lol !
Yet I'm still hoping that they can produce a good game. Perhaps the fact that they are unwilling to release before the game is ready is a good sign. Perhaps the fact that it has taken so long to get it even vaguely ready is a bad sign. We can only speculate, nobody has "proof" of the ultimate success or failure.
And so I live in hope, but I'm not the rabid-fanboi type. I ignore the people that call fire and brimstone down on DnL, just as much as those that praise it to the heavens.
Time will tell...
I've given up wondering if DnL will be good or bad. You can look at various events and assume that its a good sign or a bad sign. I don't know. There won't be too long to wait before SoG (assuming that deadline isn't missed also).
I'm hopeful, but not naive.
The DnL community is just annoying at this point. There is no new information and the same posts are just being rehashed constantly.
i don't get it, that forum is crap because they don't all bash the game and share the same opinions as you? imo this forum is just as crappy with the same trolls posting the same bs over and over....but you don't have a problem with that do you?
read this http://www.vanguardsoh.com/forums/showthread.php?p=1044304#post1044304 then come back and talk to me about the vanguard/soe fiasco.....
Quite the contrary. The forum is crap because the community is crap. In turn, the community is crap because of the choices of the mods and devs of the game. Instead of rational conversation we get fanboi hatred to anyone who remotely questions anything. Yet, those same individuals secretly crave the same thing everyone else does: information about the game.
Is it so much to ask for some simple information about a game before I shell out 60 bucks? I don't think that's too much to ask, other's do not think so either.
There's a large percentage of the population over there that not only took a blind leap, but, goes one step further. They redicule anyone who did not make the same leap they did off the cliffs of insanity. Perhaps it's a way to justify being a sucker. I wouldn't know since I'm not a complete idiot.
Here's some of the basic reasons why you would visit any forum.
1. You visit to get caught up on the latest news.
There has been no worthy information released on DnL since I started checking the forums in '04.
2. You visit to talk about the game's features.
No one knows anything about the features of DnL except "it has alot of land." The rest is all speculation/rumors.
3. You visit to talk with the community.
The community is beyond mental these days. Constant arguments about pioneer keys, fanboi/flamer fights, pleas to the developers that go unanswered.
In closing, the reason I do not visit DnL's forums anylonger is because there is no reason to. There are however, reasons to come to MMORPG forums, which is why I still do. Did that answer your feeble attempt to counter my OP? I hope you enjoyed reading as much as I enjoyed writing.
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LOL
This is what cracks me up about the DnL forums here. One side always accuses the other of rampant speculation, when in reality neither side truly knows how things will pan out.
What it amounts to is the haters think that the game will utterly tank, but have no real proof that it will, while the fanboys think the game will be a great success, but also have no proof to fall back on.
It's all just speculation on both sides; that's why all of these discussions (re: flamefests) are so pointless.