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The game destroyed because it's economy was destroyed

ZefireZefire Member Posts: 676

I was having a good time playing neverwinter even with all those annoying bugs exploits etc but now that the economy is destroyed i feel i have no reason to keep playing this game.

Everyone has billions of astrals and if you think that those people are banned or that they will do something to save the economy then u are naive.Only a true wipe will save this game and by reopening the servers with as lees exploits as possible.

The game destroyed and thats it i have no willing to play this any more even if it was fun at the beggining

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  • WaidenWaiden Member UncommonPosts: 500
    True ... if anyone thinks every exploiter is going to be banned, they are prettttty naive.
  • WhitebeardsWhitebeards Member Posts: 778
    Originally posted by Zefire

    I was having a good time playing neverwinter even with all those annoying bugs exploits etc but now that the economy is destroyed i feel i have no reason to keep playing this game.

    Everyone has billions of astrals and if you think that those people are banned or that they will do something to save the economy then u are naive.Only a true wipe will save this game and by reopening the servers with as lees exploits as possible.

    The game destroyed and thats it i have no willing to play this any more even if it was fun at the beggining

    Nice exaggeration there. 

  • WaidenWaiden Member UncommonPosts: 500
    Originally posted by Whitebeards
    Originally posted by Zefire

    I was having a good time playing neverwinter even with all those annoying bugs exploits etc but now that the economy is destroyed i feel i have no reason to keep playing this game.

    Everyone has billions of astrals and if you think that those people are banned or that they will do something to save the economy then u are naive.Only a true wipe will save this game and by reopening the servers with as lees exploits as possible.

    The game destroyed and thats it i have no willing to play this any more even if it was fun at the beggining

    Nice exaggeration there. 

    Even if ''only'' 5% of population had this amount of money. bye bye economy.

  • GoldenArrowGoldenArrow Member UncommonPosts: 1,186

    Economy destroyed in a game where you can legimately buy more ingame currency with real currency.

    Sorry bro, the economy was destroyed when they decided this game will be F2P.

  • hfztthfztt Member RarePosts: 1,401

    You could just ignore the market and play the game though...

    Just saying.

  • tawesstawess Member EpicPosts: 4,227

    the fine thing is that the economy it self will recover in time,  and the people who end up dominating the market would have done so any way... Now it just went a little faster.

     

    But to say that the game is destroyed just tells me that the OP is one of those people who try to control the market... Because for every one else the game still works perfectly.

    This have been a good conversation

  • mcrippinsmcrippins Member RarePosts: 1,642
    Originally posted by hfztt

    You could just ignore the market and play the game though...

    Just saying.

    That's absurd. These forums are filled with expert economists and their well thought out opinions.

  • mcrippinsmcrippins Member RarePosts: 1,642
    Originally posted by tawess

    the fine thing is that the economy it self will recover in time,  and the people who end up dominating the market would have done so any way... Now it just went a little faster.

     

    But to say that the game is destroyed just tells me that the OP is one of those people who try to control the market... Because for every one else the game still works perfectly.

    A voice of reason. Thank you.

  • LoktofeitLoktofeit Member RarePosts: 14,247
    Originally posted by Dogblaster
    Originally posted by Whitebeards
    Originally posted by Zefire

    I was having a good time playing neverwinter even with all those annoying bugs exploits etc but now that the economy is destroyed i feel i have no reason to keep playing this game.

    Everyone has billions of astrals and if you think that those people are banned or that they will do something to save the economy then u are naive.Only a true wipe will save this game and by reopening the servers with as lees exploits as possible.

    The game destroyed and thats it i have no willing to play this any more even if it was fun at the beggining

    Nice exaggeration there. 

    Even if ''only'' 5% of population had this amount of money. bye bye economy.

    Out of the entire history of massive duping exploits in MMOs, can you name the ones that destroyed a game's economy?

    It seems the far more realistic scenario is that everything will self-adjust in a week or so now that the 7-hour rollback has taken care of the majority of the problem. Is there really panic in the player streets over this, history be damned, or is this really more a matter of being concerned that people may still have illegitimately benefited in the end, and resentment has taken the form of rationalizing reasons to leave?

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  • DibdabsDibdabs Member RarePosts: 3,239
    Originally posted by Dogblaster
    Originally posted by Whitebeards
    Originally posted by Zefire

    I was having a good time playing neverwinter even with all those annoying bugs exploits etc but now that the economy is destroyed i feel i have no reason to keep playing this game.

    Everyone has billions of astrals and if you think that those people are banned or that they will do something to save the economy then u are naive.Only a true wipe will save this game and by reopening the servers with as lees exploits as possible.

    The game destroyed and thats it i have no willing to play this any more even if it was fun at the beggining

    Nice exaggeration there. 

    Even if ''only'' 5% of population had this amount of money. bye bye economy.

    In a casual game like Neverwinter,  casual players like myself don't need the economy.  It hasn't affected my game up to now and it never will.  I think I've had a look at the AH three or four times whilst levelling 4 characters and have reached level 54 without needing/wanting to buy or sell anything there.  With very limited content and only one quest path running on a railroad through the zones, most players will be short term players or players who pass an idle hour or two in the game. 

  • Toxic2kToxic2k Member Posts: 16


    Originally posted by tawess
    the fine thing is that the economy it self will recover in time,  and the people who end up dominating the market would have done so any way... Now it just went a little faster. But to say that the game is destroyed just tells me that the OP is one of those people who try to control the market... Because for every one else the game still works perfectly.

    No it wont recover. In another game that i played, a guy made so much money from exploiting the ingame shop, that he needed several accounts with hundreds on free slots, just to store all the expensive items that he bought using exploits. He didnt got banned, but even after 4 year, his chars(all of them) were fully equip with endgame gear. All items from only one of his chars, were worthing more than 2000$, and he had 5 chars.
    Just like that guy, there were a few more people which did not got banned, and the result was that they were dominating the top 10 list of each server for several years.

    Same will happen with NW, i have no doubts about that.

  • SnigerknudSnigerknud Member UncommonPosts: 60
    Originally posted by Zefire

    I was having a good time playing neverwinter even with all those annoying bugs exploits etc but now that the economy is destroyed i feel i have no reason to keep playing this game.

    Everyone has billions of astrals and if you think that those people are banned or that they will do something to save the economy then u are naive.Only a true wipe will save this game and by reopening the servers with as lees exploits as possible.

    The game destroyed and thats it i have no willing to play this any more even if it was fun at the beggining

    I have 40K astral's and are not even level 60 yet..

    I would say...if YOU think everyone has billions of astrals then you must be dumb..

    Stop saying the game is destroyed..I dont think I am the only one saying that the company did at great job fixing the problems that some stupid kids made to this game..

    Play the game if you like it or move on..

  • KyleranKyleran Member LegendaryPosts: 44,060
    In a game like EVE this would be very significant, but in a title like this, not nearly so much.

    Most of those exploiters will quickly tire of the game and remove themselves and their cash from the economy voluntarily.

    But that's true of pretty much the rest of the player base as well.

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  • PurutzilPurutzil Member UncommonPosts: 3,048

    Funny how it comes to light now. Diablo 3 had the same issue with an exploit before and as far as I know, the US economy in the game is completely destroyed with items being priced vastly more then it had in the past. Most of the items are just now on the Real money auction house now for trading since gold is practically ruined.

     

    Its not AS huge of a problem on here, but its a big advantage that really makes me cringe thinking it exists and how if I ever do want to buy stuff, I'm practically screwed now.

  • mcrippinsmcrippins Member RarePosts: 1,642
    Originally posted by Loktofeit
    Originally posted by Dogblaster
    Originally posted by Whitebeards
    Originally posted by Zefire

    I was having a good time playing neverwinter even with all those annoying bugs exploits etc but now that the economy is destroyed i feel i have no reason to keep playing this game.

    Everyone has billions of astrals and if you think that those people are banned or that they will do something to save the economy then u are naive.Only a true wipe will save this game and by reopening the servers with as lees exploits as possible.

    The game destroyed and thats it i have no willing to play this any more even if it was fun at the beggining

    Nice exaggeration there. 

    Even if ''only'' 5% of population had this amount of money. bye bye economy.

    Out of the entire history of massive duping exploits in MMOs, can you name the ones that destroyed a game's economy?

    It seems the far more realistic scenario is that everything will self-adjust in a week or so now that the 7-hour rollback has taken care of the majority of the problem. Is there really panic in the player streets over this, history be damned, or is this really more a matter of being concerned that people may still have illegitimately benefited in the end, and resentment has taken the form of rationalizing reasons to leave?

    Kinda feel the same way. Everyone's telling me the world is destroyed.. I look out my window, and nothing but crickets chirping. 

  • Squeak69Squeak69 Member UncommonPosts: 959
    i think it has more to do with, people have been looking for a excuse to bail on this game, i know i know it sounds stupid that people would need a reson to stop playing a game they didnt like, but i have stopped being suprised at some of the things, people do these days

    F2P may be the way of the future, but ya know they dont make them like they used toimage
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  • yllisyllis Member UncommonPosts: 72
    Originally posted by Toxic2k

     

    No it wont recover. In another game that i played, a guy made so much money from exploiting the ingame shop, that he needed several accounts with hundreds on free slots, just to store all the expensive items that he bought using exploits. He didnt got banned, but even after 4 year, his chars(all of them) were fully equip with endgame gear. All items from only one of his chars, were worthing more than 2000$, and he had 5 chars.

    Just like that guy, there were a few more people which did not got banned, and the result was that they were dominating the top 10 list of each server for several years.

    Same will happen with NW, i have no doubts about that.

     

    This above post is just stupid silly.

    Please ask to be forgiven.

  • Toxic2kToxic2k Member Posts: 16

    Most people dont care about economy and still think that everything will come to normal by itself, but nost people are just the average joe who plays a game because is free. All of this average joes, will most likely be average nups who run like rabbits in open pvp and always obey the big guilds and big players.
    I am sorry, but some people want to get in the top by hard work, and not to be exploiters and whales dummy's in pvp, like most of you are in all games.

  • Squeak69Squeak69 Member UncommonPosts: 959
    Originally posted by yllis
    Originally posted by Toxic2k

     

    No it wont recover. In another game that i played, a guy made so much money from exploiting the ingame shop, that he needed several accounts with hundreds on free slots, just to store all the expensive items that he bought using exploits. He didnt got banned, but even after 4 year, his chars(all of them) were fully equip with endgame gear. All items from only one of his chars, were worthing more than 2000$, and he had 5 chars.

    Just like that guy, there were a few more people which did not got banned, and the result was that they were dominating the top 10 list of each server for several years.

    Same will happen with NW, i have no doubts about that.

     

    This above post is just stupid silly.

    Please ask to be forgiven.

    im actully kinda intrested in knowing the name of this game.

    F2P may be the way of the future, but ya know they dont make them like they used toimage
    Proper Grammer & spelling are extra, corrections will be LOL at.

  • WaidenWaiden Member UncommonPosts: 500
    Originally posted by Squeak69
    Originally posted by yllis
    Originally posted by Toxic2k

     

    No it wont recover. In another game that i played, a guy made so much money from exploiting the ingame shop, that he needed several accounts with hundreds on free slots, just to store all the expensive items that he bought using exploits. He didnt got banned, but even after 4 year, his chars(all of them) were fully equip with endgame gear. All items from only one of his chars, were worthing more than 2000$, and he had 5 chars.

    Just like that guy, there were a few more people which did not got banned, and the result was that they were dominating the top 10 list of each server for several years.

    Same will happen with NW, i have no doubts about that.

     

    This above post is just stupid silly.

    Please ask to be forgiven.

    im actully kinda intrested in knowing the name of this game.

    Neverwinter ... this guy came from future :)

  • akiira69akiira69 Member UncommonPosts: 615
    Originally posted by Squeak69
    Originally posted by yllis
    Originally posted by Toxic2k

     

    No it wont recover. In another game that i played, a guy made so much money from exploiting the ingame shop, that he needed several accounts with hundreds on free slots, just to store all the expensive items that he bought using exploits. He didnt got banned, but even after 4 year, his chars(all of them) were fully equip with endgame gear. All items from only one of his chars, were worthing more than 2000$, and he had 5 chars.

    Just like that guy, there were a few more people which did not got banned, and the result was that they were dominating the top 10 list of each server for several years.

    Same will happen with NW, i have no doubts about that.

     

    This above post is just stupid silly.

    Please ask to be forgiven.

    im actully kinda intrested in knowing the name of this game.

    So am I

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  • WizardryWizardry Member LegendaryPosts: 19,332

    I don't know when or where this "game economy" comes into play because i have played two characters into the 30's and not needed it at all.I took a look twice on my first player but there was nothing of use and having played quite a bit ,i can see why.

    I really don't know if there is anything better than blue drops,that is all i have seen,but they are incredibly rare.I think i have seen a total of maybe 5/6 over 4 players and only 2 would actually fit my class.However even the blue drops seem to carry the same random stat system,that can make a blue drop worse than a green.

    The real sad irony in gaming period is that in almost every game now,levels fly by so fast,gear is of little meaning.Then when you hit end level,there is no chance to outgrow the gear,but your done leveling as well,so again it becomes meaningless.

    I think i am not talking for myself when i say gear is part of the fun most gamer's have inside their games.To get that meaning back into gear,we need levels to stick around long enough so we can actually enjoy it.We also need to lose this "BIND" idea that Everquest messed up in design.That way if you were lucky enough to finally get a unique/rare item,you might be able to make use of it more than those few levels,by trading it to another character or if the game uses a sub class system.

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  • apocolusterapocoluster Member UncommonPosts: 1,326
    Originally posted by Toxic2k

     


    Originally posted by tawess
    the fine thing is that the economy it self will recover in time,  and the people who end up dominating the market would have done so any way... Now it just went a little faster.

     

     

    But to say that the game is destroyed just tells me that the OP is one of those people who try to control the market... Because for every one else the game still works perfectly.


     

    No it wont recover. In another game that i played, a guy made so much money from exploiting the ingame shop, that he needed several accounts with hundreds on free slots, just to store all the expensive items that he bought using exploits. He didnt got banned, but even after 4 year, his chars(all of them) were fully equip with endgame gear. All items from only one of his chars, were worthing more than 2000$, and he had 5 chars.
    Just like that guy, there were a few more people which did not got banned, and the result was that they were dominating the top 10 list of each server for several years.

    Same will happen with NW, i have no doubts about that.

    Hw would a dude like that affect me and my solo oriented non Pvp based casual game

    play?

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  • SpottyGekkoSpottyGekko Member EpicPosts: 6,916

    In Neverwinter, the AH economy is not important. Nobody needs the AH, it only provides convenience.

     

    The Zen Exchange is important.

     

    And PWE ultimately controls the Exchange, because they ultimately control the rate at which AD are generated in the game. PWE also controls the Zen Store prices and the NPC vendor prices.

     

    I often like to play the economic game in MMO's, but if the shenanigans of the last few days make that pointless, it's no great loss. I can still level my characters just the same as before the "CAT-astrophe" on the AH.

     

     

  • LoktofeitLoktofeit Member RarePosts: 14,247
    Originally posted by Squeak69
    i think it has more to do with, people have been looking for a excuse to bail on this game, i know i know it sounds stupid that people would need a reson to stop playing a game they didnt like, but i have stopped being suprised at some of the things, people do these days

    That doesn't sound stupid at all. 

    To be clear, I'm not being sarcastic there. I really think that might be the case for some.

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