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Quick Impressions of FFXIV ARR

Maik36Maik36 Member CommonPosts: 59

I played FFXIV 1.0 for about a month and quit because I was not satisfied with the game at that time. However, after playing FFXIV 2.0 phase 3, I found myself willing to give the game a second chance.

Here are some of my quick impressions:

Positives

- combat is a lot faster than it was in FFXIV 1.0.

- the UI is no longer clunky. It is very intuitive, stylish, and customizable. 

- before there was constant lag. Now there is virtually none. Even in situations where there were several players and lots of skill spamming my FPS stayed near 60, and I was using max graphics. My computer is also about 5 years old. 

- leveling from 1-20 was fast and easy. I did this playing casually over 2 days. 

- all of the zones have been redesigned. No longer is typography copy-pasted.

- Fates add dynamic aspects to gameplay similar to GW2.

 

Negatives

- there's still no AH, which is a common feature found in almost all MMOs now (I understand that the Market Board and Retainer System are FFXIV's version of AH, but they are slightly different from what most MMOs players have come to expect from a AH system).

 

- if you want to form a group, you are still forced to /Shout in a zone or join a LS and ask your friends. There needs to be a LFG feature (I understand that this will be resolved with Duty Finder).

- cooldown on leves is still too long, and they still give you too few (There is nothing wrong with the leve system, but in my experience in beta I had to wait too long for cooldown on leve allowance and I was only able to access 3 at a time. I understand from repliers that they build up over time and that there are better ways to fully utilize them. Please forgive my lack of info).

- no voiceovers (I understand that voiceovers will be added at the launch of FFXIV:ARR)

 

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  • Cod_EyeCod_Eye Member UncommonPosts: 1,016

    You added negatives then proceed to tell us they are coming in phase 4, so really they are not negatives.

    You have a maximum allowance of 99 leves, they regenerate x number per x hrs, My advice when you start playing the game is just quest and dungeon on your main class use leves for a second and third class, log off at a camp or at the inn for rested xp bonus, use any food for xp bonus including any raw foods that drop of mobs, unless you prefer to save them for cooking class.

    You should of come back on release of 1.23, I think you and many others would of enjoyed what they did to it.

  • MargulisMargulis Member CommonPosts: 1,614
    Originally posted by Cod_Eye

    You added negatives then proceed to tell us they are coming in phase 4, so really they are not negatives.

    You have a maximum allowance of 99 leves, they regenerate x number per x hrs, My advice when you start playing the game is just quest and dungeon on your main class use leves for a second and third class, log off at a camp or at the inn for rested xp bonus, use any food for xp bonus including any raw foods that drop of mobs, unless you prefer to save them for cooking class.

    You should of come back on release of 1.23, I think you and many others would of enjoyed what they did to it.

    He said 1 of his negatives is coming in phase 4 - don't blanket statement it to make it seem everything is magical with the game and there are no negatives, it comes off very fanboish.  I really liked the game and had fun in beta, but I agree with his points, especially the auction house one.

  • Maik36Maik36 Member CommonPosts: 59

    Overall, I wanted my post to be positive because that was my experience. The game has changed a lot and for the better, IMO. However, it's not perfect and people on here will disregard perfect posts. Therefore, there needs to be some negatives.

    As of right now, there aren't any voiceovers nor are there modern ways of finding a group, which is why I added them as negatives. However, I am glad they are being resolved in the coming weeks.

    I stand by my belief that the AH system would work better than marketplace system. They have gone out of their way to make everything very user friendly and modern, except this aspect. My problem with leves is pretty small and in the grande scheme of things isn't a gamebreaker.

     

  • marganculosmarganculos Member UncommonPosts: 334


    Originally posted by Margulis
    Originally posted by Cod_Eye You added negatives then proceed to tell us they are coming in phase 4, so really they are not negatives. You have a maximum allowance of 99 leves, they regenerate x number per x hrs, My advice when you start playing the game is just quest and dungeon on your main class use leves for a second and third class, log off at a camp or at the inn for rested xp bonus, use any food for xp bonus including any raw foods that drop of mobs, unless you prefer to save them for cooking class. You should of come back on release of 1.23, I think you and many others would of enjoyed what they did to it.
    He said 1 of his negatives is coming in phase 4 - don't blanket statement it to make it seem everything is magical with the game and there are no negatives, it comes off very fanboish.  I really liked the game and had fun in beta, but I agree with his points, especially the auction house one.


    everything he said as negative will be in release except
    "- cooldown on leves is still too long, and they still give you too few."
    i don't see any "fanboish" here you simply don't read enough beta forum,because:

    - there's still no AH, which is a common feature found in almost all MMOs now.
    market boards = AH, they said it's not need to be tested so it will be enabled in release

    - if you want to form a group, you are still forced to /Shout in a zone or join a LS and ask your friends. There needs to be a LFG feature (Duty Finder is supposed to do this and will be added in Phase 3).
    yea this will be added next week, you will be able to make party with peoples even from different realm depending on your language setting :)...i know it's same as in WoW/RIFT but i like it :P


    - no voiceovers ( supposedly being added in Phase 4).
    wrong, voiceovers will be added in-game at launch because strict contracts between Square Enix and voice actors.... they simply can't use their voices in beta.

  • angerbeaverangerbeaver Member UncommonPosts: 1,273

    Isn't the marketplace the exact same thing as an Auction House? It's the board with a bunch of posters on it.....

    If it weren't for the "Guard a Guardian"  I would have been around 20. As it is I got to 15 by end of the 2 days. What I did like was I found that quest a challenge (though most found it easy I hear) and early on in the game.

    I thought Leves got 3 an hour and max 16?

  • Maik36Maik36 Member CommonPosts: 59
    Originally posted by marganculos

     


    Originally posted by Margulis

    Originally posted by Cod_Eye You added negatives then proceed to tell us they are coming in phase 4, so really they are not negatives. You have a maximum allowance of 99 leves, they regenerate x number per x hrs, My advice when you start playing the game is just quest and dungeon on your main class use leves for a second and third class, log off at a camp or at the inn for rested xp bonus, use any food for xp bonus including any raw foods that drop of mobs, unless you prefer to save them for cooking class. You should of come back on release of 1.23, I think you and many others would of enjoyed what they did to it.
    He said 1 of his negatives is coming in phase 4 - don't blanket statement it to make it seem everything is magical with the game and there are no negatives, it comes off very fanboish.  I really liked the game and had fun in beta, but I agree with his points, especially the auction house one.

     


    everything he said as negative will be in release except
    "- cooldown on leves is still too long, and they still give you too few."
    i don't see any "fanboish" here you simply don't read enough beta forum,because:

     

    - there's still no AH, which is a common feature found in almost all MMOs now.
    market boards = AH, they said it's not need to be tested so it will be enabled in release

     

    - if you want to form a group, you are still forced to /Shout in a zone or join a LS and ask your friends. There needs to be a LFG feature (Duty Finder is supposed to do this and will be added in Phase 3).
    yea this will be added next week, you will be able to make party with peoples even from different realm depending on your language setting :)...i know it's same as in WoW/RIFT but i like it :P


    - no voiceovers ( supposedly being added in Phase 4).
    wrong, voiceovers will be added in-game at launch because strict contracts between Square Enix and voice actors.... they simply can't use their voices in beta.

    Like I said before, in the grande scheme of things, all the positives I listed outweigh the minor negatives. All of the core components have been fixed. It's also nice to know that almost all of my negatives are being addressed.

  • NaqajNaqaj Member UncommonPosts: 1,673
    Originally posted by marganculos

    - no voiceovers ( supposedly being added in Phase 4).

    wrong, voiceovers will be added in-game at launch because strict contracts between Square Enix and voice actors.... they simply can't use their voices in beta.

    Does anyone have any source on this? Everytime I read about missing voiceovers, fans come up with increasingly unbelievable explanations about why they aren't there. 

    Could anyone please dig out an actual source that confirms what is or isn't happening in terms of voiceovers for the game?

  • saurus123saurus123 Member UncommonPosts: 678
    dont forget small linear maps
  • Maik36Maik36 Member CommonPosts: 59
    Originally posted by saurus123
    dont forget small linear maps

    Maybe I'm just simple-minded, but I've never had a problem with linear games. I do like big, open world MMOs, and I believe all the zoning hurts the immersion. However, the zoning does help with the lag and they have to design the game around PS3's limitations. The path you take leveling up definitely becomes less linear once you get your airship pass and start traveling to the other 2 nations.

  • VanadromArdaVanadromArda Member Posts: 445
    Originally posted by Maik36

    Negatives

    - there's still no AH, which is a common feature found in almost all MMOs now.

    - if you want to form a group, you are still forced to /Shout in a zone or join a LS and ask your friends. There needs to be a LFG feature.

    - cooldown on leves is still too long, and they still give you too few.

    - no voiceovers

     

    Note: Even though Duty Finder and no voiceovers are things that are supposedly being addressed in future phases of beta, they are currently not in the current version of FFXIV  and therefore are negatives until addressed.

    1. The game HAS an AH. It's unlocked at level 20 when you complete Copper Hell and finish the quest before Ifrit in the story line. They wanted this to be a locked feature to make sure people understand the game a bit and develop a basic understanding of item value before they can sell stuff. Once you reach 20 and unlock the feature, you can hire a Retainer. This will allow you to utilize the AH system just like any other MMO. Do your homework before your complain about negatives.

    2. There IS a looking for group function and it's very powerful. Next time browse your menu for the Social Window, and Modify your Party Status. You'll see a wide collection of great ways to find groups, including a powerful search function to find other party members. A lot of people don't use it because they don't exactly relate Groups with Socializing, go figure.. Besides, we're getting Duty Finger next week which will auto-party you with people from other servers, so really your complaint is already being addressed next week. Again, do your homework...

    3. Well when it comes to Leves, honestly they are just fine. Normally you're not even supposed to be doing those until your 2nd Class anyway. You're supposed to be saving up the points and doing normal Quests and Story Missions firsts. Eventually you'll raise up 100 Leve points, and by that time you just can just do them pretty much non-stop as much as you want. Did I mention you can also group with people to make them go faster? These quests are numerous at higher levels, you should try them when you're in your 30s before you complain about their overall number.

    4. This game is completely voiced and has voice over cut scenes at launch. Again, do your homework. Hell even the trailer shows that:

    I don't think you have any negatives to be honest....

  • taus01taus01 Member Posts: 1,352
    Originally posted by saurus123
    dont forget small linear maps

    Really? Seriously, have you even played the game?

     

     

     

     

     

    "Give players systems and tools instead of rails and rules"

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  • NaqajNaqaj Member UncommonPosts: 1,673
    Originally posted by TemperHoof

    4. This game is completely voiced and has voice over cut scenes at launch. Again, do your homework. 

    Great, maybe finally someone who can actually point me towards a confirmed source for the voiceover additions. 

  • bizoux86bizoux86 Member UncommonPosts: 85

    OP, I agree with your post. I really like FFXIV ARR when I played it the last 2 beta weekends and am looking forward to playing it after release!  I am glad to hear that they will be doing voice-overs at a later point.... I read on a post somewhere that the FFXIV team was trying to save money by NOT doing the voice overs and it freaked me out lol! So, happy to hear they are indeed coming!

    You said that combat is faster that in 1.0! How slow was it back then? It seems very methodical and slow to me now, I am definitely getting used to it though. Do you think combat gets more fun as you level? Right now I am about level 15 and only have 3 skills....

    Also I would add to the negatives that there should be a Trade chat instead of SHOUT. I like to be able to follow conversations amongst regions and that seems impossible with the current system.

    Aside from the few things, I am really looking forward to playing this game! yay!

  • ZayonZayon Member Posts: 13

    I seriously doubt the game will be completely voiced. What is planned however, as far as I read, is voice over in the main scenario quests. I've only found this quote from Yoshi-P on the beta forums though so I can't link it. I'm not sure if it's been posted or talked about anywhere else.

  • redcloud16redcloud16 Member UncommonPosts: 221
    Originally posted by Maik36

    I played FFXIV 1.0 for about a month and quit because I was not satisfied with the game at that time. However, after playing FFXIV 2.0 phase 3, I found myself willing to give the game a second chance.

    Here are some of my quick impressions:

    Positives

    - combat is a lot faster than it was in FFXIV 1.0.

    - the UI is no longer clunky. It is very intuitive, stylish, and customizable. 

    - before there was constant lag. Now there is virtually none. Even in situations where there were several players and lots of skill spamming my FPS stayed near 60, and I was using max graphics. My computer is also about 5 years old. 

    - leveling from 1-20 was fast and easy. I did this playing casually over 2 days. 

    - all of the zones have been redesigned. No longer is typography copy-pasted.

    - Fates add dynamic aspects to gameplay similar to GW2.

     

    Negatives

    - there's still no AH, which is a common feature found in almost all MMOs now.

    - if you want to form a group, you are still forced to /Shout in a zone or join a LS and ask your friends. There needs to be a LFG feature.

    - cooldown on leves is still too long, and they still give you too few.

    - no voiceovers

     

    Note: Even though Duty Finder and no voiceovers are things that are supposedly being addressed in future phases of beta, they are currently not in the current version of FFXIV  and therefore are negatives until addressed.

    1) There IS an AH, it's called the Market Board. There are several of them in the Market areas of each of the City-States. 

    2) Duty Finder is going to implemented this weekend if all goes according to plan (next weekend if not). 

    3) I think it was said leve allowances weren't at the intended amount just yet

    4) Voice overs will be in a launch, but only for the Main Story Cutscenes (which I'm fine with)

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  • svannsvann Member RarePosts: 2,230
    Originally posted by Maik36

     

    Negatives

    - there's still no AH, which is a common feature found in almost all MMOs now.

     

    I thought the market board was the auction house.  Is that not so, or is it not functional?

  • SnarkRitterSnarkRitter Member Posts: 316
    Originally posted by taus01

    Really? Seriously, have you even played the game?

    Not big when compared to WoW, RIFTs and especially GW2 when a good chunk of the maps are just for show(prime example : Bodies of water)

  • svannsvann Member RarePosts: 2,230
    Originally posted by marganculos

    - there's still no AH, which is a common feature found in almost all MMOs now.

    market boards = AH, they said it's not need to be tested so it will be enabled in release

     

    Oh.  Thats a little scary.  They should test this in beta.

  • striderbobstriderbob Member UncommonPosts: 174
    Originally posted by TemperHoof
    Originally posted by Maik36

    Negatives

    - there's still no AH, which is a common feature found in almost all MMOs now.

    - if you want to form a group, you are still forced to /Shout in a zone or join a LS and ask your friends. There needs to be a LFG feature.

    - cooldown on leves is still too long, and they still give you too few.

    - no voiceovers

     

    Note: Even though Duty Finder and no voiceovers are things that are supposedly being addressed in future phases of beta, they are currently not in the current version of FFXIV  and therefore are negatives until addressed.

    4. This game is completely voiced and has voice over cut scenes at launch. Again, do your homework. Hell even the trailer shows that:

    I don't think you have any negatives to be honest....

    This is wrong, only the main story quests have voice overs, not the whole game.

  • ElRenmazuoElRenmazuo Member RarePosts: 5,361
    Arent the market boards the auction houses in beta?
  • Maik36Maik36 Member CommonPosts: 59
    Ok, I understand that the Market Board/Retainer system are FFXIV's AH, but they are still different from AH.  I also understand that the Market Board will be implemented at a later time for testing in beta. Please forgive me for not knowing about all of FFXIV's features. I am still new to the game and have not spent hours of my time sifting through threads on beta forum. When you view this post, you should notice all of the positives that turned many people away at launch.
  • narmitonarmito Member Posts: 13
    Originally posted by Naqaj
    Originally posted by marganculos

    - no voiceovers ( supposedly being added in Phase 4).

    wrong, voiceovers will be added in-game at launch because strict contracts between Square Enix and voice actors.... they simply can't use their voices in beta.

    Does anyone have any source on this? Everytime I read about missing voiceovers, fans come up with increasingly unbelievable explanations about why they aren't there. 

    Could anyone please dig out an actual source that confirms what is or isn't happening in terms of voiceovers for the game?

    well i was trying to find the interview of yoshi that  tells about the voice overs on phase 4 ....anyway i can t find it . But its true . I dont know what you expetct form voice overs but  voice overs are only AT main story .

     

  • RaxeonRaxeon Member UncommonPosts: 2,288
    Originally posted by saurus123
    dont forget small linear maps

    the maps arent that small except for the towns mostly

  • RaxeonRaxeon Member UncommonPosts: 2,288
    Originally posted by narmito
    Originally posted by Naqaj
    Originally posted by marganculos

    - no voiceovers ( supposedly being added in Phase 4).

    wrong, voiceovers will be added in-game at launch because strict contracts between Square Enix and voice actors.... they simply can't use their voices in beta.

    Does anyone have any source on this? Everytime I read about missing voiceovers, fans come up with increasingly unbelievable explanations about why they aren't there. 

    Could anyone please dig out an actual source that confirms what is or isn't happening in terms of voiceovers for the game?

    well i was trying to find the interview of yoshi that  tells about the voice overs on phase 4 ....anyway i can t find it . But its true . I dont know what you expetct form voice overs but  voice overs are only AT main story .

     

    yep there will be voice overs for the main story

  • narmitonarmito Member Posts: 13
    Originally posted by Naqaj
    Originally posted by TemperHoof

    4. This game is completely voiced and has voice over cut scenes at launch. Again, do your homework. 

    Great, maybe finally someone who can actually point me towards a confirmed source for the voiceover additions. 

    the game has voice overs only at main story Yoshida confirmed many time Only on main story and we ll see it at phase 4.

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