FFXIV has nothing innovative, it is a mix between Rift and WAR.
The only thing that could save the game from going F2P in 6 months is the huge FF fanbase..................but greatest MMO since WoW?
Not even close by a Mile................
So what did WoW innovate at launch? Because, last I checked it was still the most successful mmo ever. The only thing it had was it did what other mmo's before had but done better.
Innovation != Success; recent games show this more and more. That's why their f2p. They tried to innovate but failed to deliver a great game overall.
What WoW had at launch was a unique mish-mash of traits from multiple older MMOs (everquest principal among its inspirations) and a good IP behind it.
What does FFXIV have? Allot "been done already" features and a half-decent IP (which hasn't produced a decent non-MMO game since FFX and arguably FFX-2) plus a dangerous amount of hype.
"half-decent IP"
Your opinion, FF IP is one of the most recognized/loved in the world. You don't get that kind of recognition from a "half-decent IP"
"(which hasn't produced a decent non-MMO game since FFX and arguably FFX-2)"
Again your opinion. Millions of fans love FF12 (me included) and FF13.
ARR is different. It's unfortunate you can't see it.
Yes I am sure having incrementally less control over your games is a step up in terms of gaming quality.
ARR is about as different from other MMOs currently on the market as Rift is from WoW and I am being generous here.
Also if you want the most recognized IPs in the world try Star Trek, Star Wars, Warhammer 40.000, etc, Final Fantasy is popular in Asia and some segments of the western culture but if you ask someone from a village in the middle of nowhere who Tifa is and then ask who Picard is I'll let you guess which one's more likely to be known.
And I will make for this MMO the same prediction I made for Star Wars The Old Republic solely based on the toxic and idealistic fanbase it has: Dead or F2P within 2 years, tops.
Lol... oh what a spin. Sure bring in star wars and star trek that have decades of history before they even entered the game industry, I thought this was about video game IPs recognized by GAMERS across the world, but hey downplay all you like.
Sometime I wonder if the people who spout the "innovative" mantra play any other genre besides MMOs... since most other games in different genres are basically the same at the core, the only thing that differentiates new games is the story, world, and with their own little spin (if at all) on gameplay. That is what makes games different. What makes them a failure or success is their execution.
Yeah Star Wars failed because of their toxic fanbase. (sarcasm)
Originally posted by DanitaKusor Any game that isn't B2P or F2P is going to fail in today's gaming market. People don't want to spend money on subscriptions these days.
I think the reason MMOs in the Post-WoW time fail is not because they chose a P2P business model. But because they didn't match the game to the model.
Most MMOs released after WoW have short life spans. THey have very short time to cap leveling. They have poor long term playability and very little re-playability. Of course sub models will fail. Even WoW is experiencing this loss since they have moved to the fast and easy game it is now.
If some of these games would stop trying to re invent the wheel and actually go back to the grass roots of MMORPGs pre-WoW. and make something that you invest time into instead of trying to make the next action twitch MMO. and if the game is rewarding to play. It can command a subscription.
Playing MMORPGs primarily for "fun" is a new concept. We didn't play MMOs for fun back then. We played for the reward factor. Fun as it's own reward is not sustainable in an environment where content is looped.
Originally posted by DanitaKusor Any game that isn't B2P or F2P is going to fail in today's gaming market. People don't want to spend money on subscriptions these days.
I think the reason MMOs in the Post-WoW time fail is not because they chose a P2P business model. But because they didn't match the game to the model.
Most MMOs released after WoW have short life spans. THey have very short time to cap leveling. They have poor long term playability and very little re-playability. Of course sub models will fail. Even WoW is experiencing this loss since they have moved to the fast and easy game it is now.
If some of these games would stop trying to re invent the wheel and actually go back to the grass roots of MMORPGs pre-WoW. and make something that you invest time into instead of trying to make the next action twitch MMO. and if the game is rewarding to play. It can command a subscription.
Playing MMORPGs primarily for "fun" is a new concept. We didn't play MMOs for fun back then. We played for the reward factor. Fun as it's own reward is not sustainable in an environment where content is looped.
I look at it this way. People who are still in P2P games are there because they have invested years into those games. They have friends there and have built up a vast resource base from which to work with.
Moving to a new game where they don't have this is a daunting process, and when the new game doesn't offer much more than their current game in the terms of endgame why stick around. It's easier to go back to their old game. This is why so many games to challenge WoW have failed over the years.
My personal favourite at the moment is B2P games (GW2, TSW). I've spent $110 in GW2 and $200 in TSW (Grandmaster) on top of the purchase price and go back to each of them on a regular basis as they release new content. I'm not bound by the recurring subscription fee and don't stick around long enough to get bored.
I keep giggling whenever I see the statement that FF XIV will retain at least 500k subs. One month after launch, yeah probably. 6 months after launch? Based on what I've seen with P2P MMO releases for the past 4 years: Only in the wildest fanboy dream.
Originally posted by SnarkRitter I keep giggling whenever I see the statement that FF XIV will retain at least 500k subs. One month after launch, yeah probably. 6 months after launch? Based on what I've seen with P2P MMO releases for the past 4 years: Only in the wildest fanboy dream.
I agree with you. This is a lot of wishful thinking about the fans.
"The problem is that the hardcore folks always want the same thing: 'We want exactly what you gave us before, but it has to be completely different.' -Jesse Schell
"Online gamers are the most ludicrously entitled beings since Caligula made his horse a senator, and at least the horse never said anything stupid." -Luke McKinney
Originally posted by SnarkRitter I keep giggling whenever I see the statement that FF XIV will retain at least 500k subs. One month after launch, yeah probably. 6 months after launch? Based on what I've seen with P2P MMO releases for the past 4 years: Only in the wildest fanboy dream.
I agree with you. This is a lot of wishful thinking about the fans.
Doogiehowser has nothing better too do then spam final fantasy threads with his negativity
I strongly disagree. The game is not very good at all. I would give it a 5/10, and that is being generous.
I am having a hard time believing that you have even played the game. You mention nothing of it, and are only going off of information that seems rather fishy. You don't make note of anything in the game, you only say
"And the ability to mount the heads of monsters you've slain over your fireplace to show off for you guest."
This is by far the stupidest feature of any MMO to date. I don't want a house. I don't want pink frilly wall paper. I don't want to get married. I don't want a flowery bikini. This is not the SIMS. This is an MMO. We are here to kill mobs, blast dungeons and get loot. Not to play house and dress up.
"A beautiful soundtrack and the best graphics of any mmo to date."
I would have to disagree. This is purely your opinion on the matter. The game does have a good soundtrack, seeing as it's mostly reworks of Nobuo Uematsu's previous music, of course it is going to be great, he is one of the most talented and celebrated composers in all of video game history.
"Plus how many WoW and GW2 players arent really that happy with the current state of their gaming?"
Trust me. I would rather play GW2 or WoW ANY DAY over this catastrophe of a game. Even tho I'm not happy with their current state, they are magnitudes more fun that this game. I can't stand WoW anymore, I think it's awful. I could give a whole review about it, and how much I dislike it but I'm not going too. Even having said that, I would prefer WoW to RRB.
"Veteran players have even complained that it was too easy."
This game is mindless. It's the slowest paced MMO I've ever played, in both terms of story progression and combat. I highly suggest you actually play a games Beta before you hail it as the new god of MMO's, because it is quite obvious you haven't played it at all.
I strongly disagree. The game is not very good at all. I would give it a 5/10, and that is being generous.
I am having a hard time believing that you have even played the game. You mention nothing of it, and are only going off of information that seems rather fishy. You don't make note of anything in the game, you only say
"And the ability to mount the heads of monsters you've slain over your fireplace to show off for you guest."
This is by far the stupidest feature of any MMO to date. I don't want a house. I don't want pink frilly wall paper. I don't want to get married. I don't want a flowery bikini. This is not the SIMS. This is an MMO. We are here to kill mobs, blast dungeons and get loot. Not to play house and dress up.
I'll go ahead and qoute you "This is purely your opinion on the matter"
"A beautiful soundtrack and the best graphics of any mmo to date."
I would have to disagree. This is purely your opinion on the matter. The game does have a good soundtrack, seeing as it's mostly reworks of Nobuo Uematsu's previous music, of course it is going to be great, he is one of the most talented and celebrated composers in all of video game history.
Most of Nobuos tracks have been replaced by various other composers in a ARR, still one of the better soundtracks in MMOs. Best graphics however is up for grabs.
"Plus how many WoW and GW2 players arent really that happy with the current state of their gaming?"
Trust me. I would rather play GW2 or WoW ANY DAY over this catastrophe of a game. Even tho I'm not happy with their current state, they are magnitudes more fun that this game. I can't stand WoW anymore, I think it's awful. I could give a whole review about it, and how much I dislike it but I'm not going too. Even having said that, I would prefer WoW to RRB.
Your free to play any other game, but you won't see me calling other games a "catastrophe" that I don't like when a large chunk of beta testers and a few other unbaised previews actually like what they see in this game.
"Veteran players have even complained that it was too easy."
This game is mindless. It's the slowest paced MMO I've ever played, in both terms of story progression and combat. I highly suggest you actually play a games Beta before you hail it as the new god of MMO's, because it is quite obvious you haven't played it at all.
I strongly disagree. The game is not very good at all. I would give it a 5/10, and that is being generous.
I am having a hard time believing that you have even played the game. You mention nothing of it, and are only going off of information that seems rather fishy. You don't make note of anything in the game, you only say
"And the ability to mount the heads of monsters you've slain over your fireplace to show off for you guest."
This is by far the stupidest feature of any MMO to date. I don't want a house. I don't want pink frilly wall paper. I don't want to get married. I don't want a flowery bikini. This is not the SIMS. This is an MMO. We are here to kill mobs, blast dungeons and get loot. Not to play house and dress up.
"A beautiful soundtrack and the best graphics of any mmo to date."
I would have to disagree. This is purely your opinion on the matter. The game does have a good soundtrack, seeing as it's mostly reworks of Nobuo Uematsu's previous music, of course it is going to be great, he is one of the most talented and celebrated composers in all of video game history.
"Plus how many WoW and GW2 players arent really that happy with the current state of their gaming?"
Trust me. I would rather play GW2 or WoW ANY DAY over this catastrophe of a game. Even tho I'm not happy with their current state, they are magnitudes more fun that this game. I can't stand WoW anymore, I think it's awful. I could give a whole review about it, and how much I dislike it but I'm not going too. Even having said that, I would prefer WoW to RRB.
"Veteran players have even complained that it was too easy."
This game is mindless. It's the slowest paced MMO I've ever played, in both terms of story progression and combat. I highly suggest you actually play a games Beta before you hail it as the new god of MMO's, because it is quite obvious you haven't played it at all.
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Translation: My opinion is the only one that ever matters, ever. It has the weight of 30 or 40 of you lower life form's opinions. Every game should be catered to what I like and what I want or it will be a failure.
This might be the dumbest post ever on mmorpg.com.......and that's saying a lot.
Why is every new MMO game that someone may not like lambasted as a "WoW clone"? Sure, this game has a lot of kill and fetch quests, heck most of them are, but that's pretty standard MMO fare. Perhaps you'd like to tell us about all the MMOs that don't have such quests, even the ones that were released before WoW? ARR doesn't even have Num Lock for running or /r for replying to a whisper, pretty standard WoW clone features. But okay. Just remember: Even games like GW2 was called a "WoW clone" by people who didn't like the game.
ARR is a decent game, but it will NOT KILL WOW. WoW has excellent combat, ARR does not. WoW has millions of addicts and rabid fanboys, ARR isn't even out yet. Most of WoW is fucking easy, ARR, from what I've experienced so far, is in between easy and medium difficulty. ARR is Asian, WoW is Western. ARR is a good game, WoW is not. Okay, that part is just my opinion, but you get my point.
WoW will die on its own thanks to the likes of Greg Street and his failing decisions, with or without the help of competition. Patch 5.3 was the final nail in the coffin for so many PvPers, where they made heroic raiding gear BETTER than the best PvP gear in open-world PvP. With bullshit like that, we don't need ARR, or TESO, or Wildstar to do more damage. It will do enough on its own.
I strongly disagree. The game is not very good at all. I would give it a 5/10, and that is being generous.
I am having a hard time believing that you have even played the game. You mention nothing of it, and are only going off of information that seems rather fishy. You don't make note of anything in the game, you only say
"And the ability to mount the heads of monsters you've slain over your fireplace to show off for you guest."
This is by far the stupidest feature of any MMO to date. I don't want a house. I don't want pink frilly wall paper. I don't want to get married. I don't want a flowery bikini. This is not the SIMS. This is an MMO. We are here to kill mobs, blast dungeons and get loot. Not to play house and dress up.
"A beautiful soundtrack and the best graphics of any mmo to date."
I would have to disagree. This is purely your opinion on the matter. The game does have a good soundtrack, seeing as it's mostly reworks of Nobuo Uematsu's previous music, of course it is going to be great, he is one of the most talented and celebrated composers in all of video game history.
"Plus how many WoW and GW2 players arent really that happy with the current state of their gaming?"
Trust me. I would rather play GW2 or WoW ANY DAY over this catastrophe of a game. Even tho I'm not happy with their current state, they are magnitudes more fun that this game. I can't stand WoW anymore, I think it's awful. I could give a whole review about it, and how much I dislike it but I'm not going too. Even having said that, I would prefer WoW to RRB.
"Veteran players have even complained that it was too easy."
This game is mindless. It's the slowest paced MMO I've ever played, in both terms of story progression and combat. I highly suggest you actually play a games Beta before you hail it as the new god of MMO's, because it is quite obvious you haven't played it at all.
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Translation: My opinion is the only one that ever matters, ever. It has the weight of 30 or 40 of you lower life form's opinions. Every game should be catered to what I like and what I want or it will be a failure.
This might be the dumbest post ever on mmorpg.com.......and that's saying a lot.
Gonna have to agree with that. Anybody who thinks housing is a 'stupid' feature in an MMO is just... well, they're not looking for an MMO. They're looking for an ARPG.
Plenty of ARPGs out there for you pal. Diablo 1-3, Path of Exile, Grim Dawn, Sacred 1 & 2, Torchlight 1 & 2, Titan Quest, The Incredible Adventures of Van Helsing, NOX, Dungeon Siege 1-3, Borderlands 1 & 2, Depths of Peril, Din's Curse, Legend of Grimrock, Icewind Dale 1 & 2, Marvel Heroes, Drakensang Online, and that's all I can think of off the top of my head. Go play one of those, because 'blasting through mobs and getting loot' is exactly how those games play, and they can be incredibly fun.
MMORPGs are not the genre you're looking for.
It's a sad day indeed when a family is too afraid of reprisals to publicly thank somebody for saving their lives.
Fail and sub numbers speculations are so pointless. I think by doing that, people are more in the act of wishful thinking. Everyone has his own little hope. Either a fail, or success. It's not objective so it doesn't matter.
I've had a taste of this game and while I found the first few levels boring and the player/game interaction awkward, I'm starting to think this game has few hidden treasures.
And the high fantasy style (I'm new to final fantasy) is quite special to. There are not many MMOs out with this type of fantasy. Truly hardcore fantasy, but in a deep sense. Not just glitter and colors.
FF14:ARR is a really great MMORPG. Anyone who doesn't like the game is basically being very negative/pessimistic and I challenge them to make a better MMORPG.
WoW was huge because of timing as much as it was about being a good game.
Originally posted by PsychoticHamster What is with this claim that ARR looks good? I maxed out the settings and the game looks like utter trash. GW2 has better graphics, and from what I've seen ESO's graphics already look far beyond FFIV. Low res textures, bad AA, some of the worst looking foliage I've seen in a recent game. AM I doing something wrong? I feel like an MMO in 2013 should look better, and tax my 2010 era machine heavily, but on max settings I'm still pulling 50+ frames.
GW2 has the best graphics of any mmo I've ever seen. The graphics in FFXIV are pretty good. I have them all set to max and I get a solid 60+ fps. There are things that need work tho. Like, the Grass and Leaves on tree, look like they were made circa 1998 for PS1.
'Translation: My opinion is the only one that ever matters, ever. It has the weight of 30 or 40 of you lower life form's opinions. Every game should be catered to what I like and what I want or it will be a failure."
That isn't true at all. I don't know why you are so butt hurt about this, but ok man. Just have a glass of water and clam down, you are being way too over dramatic. My opinion is just, my opinion. Stating my opinion may offend you, but that is your choice as to be offended. I'm not here too hold your hand and tell you it's ok, just here voicing my opinion on the matter, and how I feel about it.
"Gonna have to agree with that. Anybody who thinks housing is a 'stupid' feature in an MMO is just... well, they're not looking for an MMO. They're looking for an ARPG."
No, I am looking for an MMO. An MMO that focused on Gameplay, Battle, Fight Mechanics and class synergy. I do not want to have anything to do with things such as in game housing. It's the equivilant to achievements to me, just filler, and an illusion of content that doesn't provide anything in terms of the core game play or replyablity. Why would you spend so much time and money paying people to script and code such a useless feature in a game? If you want to play dolly dressup and husband and wife, go play Second Life or Animal Crossing or something. The entire idea of having marriage, housing, and tampons in a game is just beyond my ability to comprehend as a good idea. Sure, it will be fun for those people who want it in an mmo, but I am not one of them, nor do I see how it will enhance my experience in the game.
Plenty of ARPGs out there for you pal. Diablo 1-3, Path of Exile, Grim Dawn, Sacred 1 & 2, Torchlight 1 & 2, Titan Quest, The Incredible Adventures of Van Helsing, NOX, Dungeon Siege 1-3, Borderlands 1 & 2, Depths of Peril, Din's Curse, Legend of Grimrock, Icewind Dale 1 & 2, Marvel Heroes, Drakensang Online, and that's all I can think of off the top of my head. Go play one of those, because 'blasting through mobs and getting loot' is exactly how those games play, and they can be incredibly fun
I agree entirely. I played the hell out of Diablo 1&2, I played NOX, I played Borderlands 1 and Icewind Dale. I played Path of Exile too, as well as Torchlight 1&2. I was infatuated with Diablo 2, for damn near 10 years I played that game, with and without mods (Valhalla!!) and I had a great time. I also, during that same period, was hardcore into WoW and I played it so much that my grades suffered terribly in high school and almost got kicked out of my house. I had a problem lol. I don't just want to blast through content and get loot, you may have misinterpreted what I meant. Internet ftw.
Its just funny how people think this with every MMO then they flop. This game will peak at launch then lose mass players because people don't want to pay monthly for yet another sub par MMO when there are a whole bunch out there for free. Then another MMO will come out and we repeat the circle of life.
Originally posted by PsychoticHamster What is with this claim that ARR looks good? I maxed out the settings and the game looks like utter trash. GW2 has better graphics, and from what I've seen ESO's graphics already look far beyond FFIV. Low res textures, bad AA, some of the worst looking foliage I've seen in a recent game. AM I doing something wrong? I feel like an MMO in 2013 should look better, and tax my 2010 era machine heavily, but on max settings I'm still pulling 50+ frames.
I totally agree. Look for example at Minecraft. Graphics are so old and 80s, I really don't understand people love and playing that crap with prehistoric graphic.
When Blizzard realized how good FFXIV is, they scrapped project Titan & decided to begin again from scratch. Sources say it was because they want to make a FFXIV clone.
If this game was only PC it would flop, but the ps3/ps4 release will make this game thrive. I can see this one easily topping WOWs numbers. If you played the PC beta i can see how you where not impressed. PS3 testing was a breath of fresh air and something new. I could only imagine how somebody that is new to mmorps is going to feel when they pick this up at walmart.
Well, the clan I'm part of that are big spenders in FREE MMOs won't be playing this. Pay to play models are outdated, and slowly being removed from the genre. Heck, nearly every pay to play MMO has a cash shop anyway. Look at WoW, most expensive vanity pets/mounts I've seen. Or the 50 dollar (it was 50 right?) monocle in EVE (ROFL a lot of my friends died laughing at that)
Since this Final Fantasy MMO is pay to play, we won't be playing. I imagine it will have a "vanity" cash shop to, to get even more money from people. No thanks.
My Skyrim, Fallout 4, Starbound and WoW + other game mods at MODDB:
Originally posted by Daft If this game was only PC it would flop, but the ps3/ps4 release will make this game thrive. I can see this one easily topping WOWs numbers. If you played the PC beta i can see how you where not impressed. PS3 testing was a breath of fresh air and something new. I could only imagine how somebody that is new to mmorps is going to feel when they pick this up at walmart.
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Lol... oh what a spin. Sure bring in star wars and star trek that have decades of history before they even entered the game industry, I thought this was about video game IPs recognized by GAMERS across the world, but hey downplay all you like.
Sometime I wonder if the people who spout the "innovative" mantra play any other genre besides MMOs... since most other games in different genres are basically the same at the core, the only thing that differentiates new games is the story, world, and with their own little spin (if at all) on gameplay. That is what makes games different. What makes them a failure or success is their execution.
Yeah Star Wars failed because of their toxic fanbase. (sarcasm)
I think the reason MMOs in the Post-WoW time fail is not because they chose a P2P business model. But because they didn't match the game to the model.
Most MMOs released after WoW have short life spans. THey have very short time to cap leveling. They have poor long term playability and very little re-playability. Of course sub models will fail. Even WoW is experiencing this loss since they have moved to the fast and easy game it is now.
If some of these games would stop trying to re invent the wheel and actually go back to the grass roots of MMORPGs pre-WoW. and make something that you invest time into instead of trying to make the next action twitch MMO. and if the game is rewarding to play. It can command a subscription.
Playing MMORPGs primarily for "fun" is a new concept. We didn't play MMOs for fun back then. We played for the reward factor. Fun as it's own reward is not sustainable in an environment where content is looped.
I look at it this way. People who are still in P2P games are there because they have invested years into those games. They have friends there and have built up a vast resource base from which to work with.
Moving to a new game where they don't have this is a daunting process, and when the new game doesn't offer much more than their current game in the terms of endgame why stick around. It's easier to go back to their old game. This is why so many games to challenge WoW have failed over the years.
My personal favourite at the moment is B2P games (GW2, TSW). I've spent $110 in GW2 and $200 in TSW (Grandmaster) on top of the purchase price and go back to each of them on a regular basis as they release new content. I'm not bound by the recurring subscription fee and don't stick around long enough to get bored.
The Enlightened take things Lightly
I agree with you. This is a lot of wishful thinking about the fans.
"The problem is that the hardcore folks always want the same thing: 'We want exactly what you gave us before, but it has to be completely different.'
-Jesse Schell
"Online gamers are the most ludicrously entitled beings since Caligula made his horse a senator, and at least the horse never said anything stupid."
-Luke McKinney
Doogiehowser has nothing better too do then spam final fantasy threads with his negativity
I strongly disagree. The game is not very good at all. I would give it a 5/10, and that is being generous.
I am having a hard time believing that you have even played the game. You mention nothing of it, and are only going off of information that seems rather fishy. You don't make note of anything in the game, you only say
"And the ability to mount the heads of monsters you've slain over your fireplace to show off for you guest."
This is by far the stupidest feature of any MMO to date. I don't want a house. I don't want pink frilly wall paper. I don't want to get married. I don't want a flowery bikini. This is not the SIMS. This is an MMO. We are here to kill mobs, blast dungeons and get loot. Not to play house and dress up.
"A beautiful soundtrack and the best graphics of any mmo to date."
I would have to disagree. This is purely your opinion on the matter. The game does have a good soundtrack, seeing as it's mostly reworks of Nobuo Uematsu's previous music, of course it is going to be great, he is one of the most talented and celebrated composers in all of video game history.
"Plus how many WoW and GW2 players arent really that happy with the current state of their gaming?"
Trust me. I would rather play GW2 or WoW ANY DAY over this catastrophe of a game. Even tho I'm not happy with their current state, they are magnitudes more fun that this game. I can't stand WoW anymore, I think it's awful. I could give a whole review about it, and how much I dislike it but I'm not going too. Even having said that, I would prefer WoW to RRB.
"Veteran players have even complained that it was too easy."
This game is mindless. It's the slowest paced MMO I've ever played, in both terms of story progression and combat. I highly suggest you actually play a games Beta before you hail it as the new god of MMO's, because it is quite obvious you haven't played it at all.
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Translation: My opinion is the only one that ever matters, ever. It has the weight of 30 or 40 of you lower life form's opinions. Every game should be catered to what I like and what I want or it will be a failure.
This might be the dumbest post ever on mmorpg.com.......and that's saying a lot.
Why is every new MMO game that someone may not like lambasted as a "WoW clone"? Sure, this game has a lot of kill and fetch quests, heck most of them are, but that's pretty standard MMO fare. Perhaps you'd like to tell us about all the MMOs that don't have such quests, even the ones that were released before WoW? ARR doesn't even have Num Lock for running or /r for replying to a whisper, pretty standard WoW clone features. But okay. Just remember: Even games like GW2 was called a "WoW clone" by people who didn't like the game.
ARR is a decent game, but it will NOT KILL WOW. WoW has excellent combat, ARR does not. WoW has millions of addicts and rabid fanboys, ARR isn't even out yet. Most of WoW is fucking easy, ARR, from what I've experienced so far, is in between easy and medium difficulty. ARR is Asian, WoW is Western. ARR is a good game, WoW is not. Okay, that part is just my opinion, but you get my point.
WoW will die on its own thanks to the likes of Greg Street and his failing decisions, with or without the help of competition. Patch 5.3 was the final nail in the coffin for so many PvPers, where they made heroic raiding gear BETTER than the best PvP gear in open-world PvP. With bullshit like that, we don't need ARR, or TESO, or Wildstar to do more damage. It will do enough on its own.
Good riddance.
Gonna have to agree with that. Anybody who thinks housing is a 'stupid' feature in an MMO is just... well, they're not looking for an MMO. They're looking for an ARPG.
Plenty of ARPGs out there for you pal. Diablo 1-3, Path of Exile, Grim Dawn, Sacred 1 & 2, Torchlight 1 & 2, Titan Quest, The Incredible Adventures of Van Helsing, NOX, Dungeon Siege 1-3, Borderlands 1 & 2, Depths of Peril, Din's Curse, Legend of Grimrock, Icewind Dale 1 & 2, Marvel Heroes, Drakensang Online, and that's all I can think of off the top of my head. Go play one of those, because 'blasting through mobs and getting loot' is exactly how those games play, and they can be incredibly fun.
MMORPGs are not the genre you're looking for.
It's a sad day indeed when a family is too afraid of reprisals to publicly thank somebody for saving their lives.
Fail and sub numbers speculations are so pointless. I think by doing that, people are more in the act of wishful thinking. Everyone has his own little hope. Either a fail, or success. It's not objective so it doesn't matter.
I've had a taste of this game and while I found the first few levels boring and the player/game interaction awkward, I'm starting to think this game has few hidden treasures.
And the high fantasy style (I'm new to final fantasy) is quite special to. There are not many MMOs out with this type of fantasy. Truly hardcore fantasy, but in a deep sense. Not just glitter and colors.
FF14:ARR is a really great MMORPG. Anyone who doesn't like the game is basically being very negative/pessimistic and I challenge them to make a better MMORPG.
WoW was huge because of timing as much as it was about being a good game.
GW2 has the best graphics of any mmo I've ever seen. The graphics in FFXIV are pretty good. I have them all set to max and I get a solid 60+ fps. There are things that need work tho. Like, the Grass and Leaves on tree, look like they were made circa 1998 for PS1.
That isn't true at all. I don't know why you are so butt hurt about this, but ok man. Just have a glass of water and clam down, you are being way too over dramatic. My opinion is just, my opinion. Stating my opinion may offend you, but that is your choice as to be offended. I'm not here too hold your hand and tell you it's ok, just here voicing my opinion on the matter, and how I feel about it.
No, I am looking for an MMO. An MMO that focused on Gameplay, Battle, Fight Mechanics and class synergy. I do not want to have anything to do with things such as in game housing. It's the equivilant to achievements to me, just filler, and an illusion of content that doesn't provide anything in terms of the core game play or replyablity. Why would you spend so much time and money paying people to script and code such a useless feature in a game? If you want to play dolly dressup and husband and wife, go play Second Life or Animal Crossing or something. The entire idea of having marriage, housing, and tampons in a game is just beyond my ability to comprehend as a good idea. Sure, it will be fun for those people who want it in an mmo, but I am not one of them, nor do I see how it will enhance my experience in the game.
I agree entirely. I played the hell out of Diablo 1&2, I played NOX, I played Borderlands 1 and Icewind Dale. I played Path of Exile too, as well as Torchlight 1&2. I was infatuated with Diablo 2, for damn near 10 years I played that game, with and without mods (Valhalla!!) and I had a great time. I also, during that same period, was hardcore into WoW and I played it so much that my grades suffered terribly in high school and almost got kicked out of my house. I had a problem lol. I don't just want to blast through content and get loot, you may have misinterpreted what I meant. Internet ftw.
I totally agree. Look for example at Minecraft. Graphics are so old and 80s, I really don't understand people love and playing that crap with prehistoric graphic.
When Blizzard realized how good FFXIV is, they scrapped project Titan & decided to begin again from scratch. Sources say it was because they want to make a FFXIV clone.
I don't make the news folks, I just report it.
Well, the clan I'm part of that are big spenders in FREE MMOs won't be playing this. Pay to play models are outdated, and slowly being removed from the genre. Heck, nearly every pay to play MMO has a cash shop anyway. Look at WoW, most expensive vanity pets/mounts I've seen. Or the 50 dollar (it was 50 right?) monocle in EVE (ROFL a lot of my friends died laughing at that)
Since this Final Fantasy MMO is pay to play, we won't be playing. I imagine it will have a "vanity" cash shop to, to get even more money from people. No thanks.
My Skyrim, Fallout 4, Starbound and WoW + other game mods at MODDB:
https://www.moddb.com/mods/skyrim-anime-overhaul
If I had not seem my fair share of releases I would fall into this
But nah, I will just stay and watch the water going under the bridge, I dont really care anymore about mmos
"It has potential"
-Second most used phrase on existence
"It sucks"
-Most used phrase on existence
Meh - I'm just waiting for a quality MMORPG to play.
SE messed up once with FFXIV's first release, but they've done flawlessly with FFXI.
Honestly - I think people are right by saying the PS3 release will sky-rocket their subscriber rate and expansions will be frequent.
Just like FFXI.
God - I just wish Microsoft got their head out of their asses and would put FFXIV on Xbox One.
I agree with you 100%.