Neither... Maybe when they come down in price in a few years and have been "Out in the Wild" for a while I may buy one or the other. I just can't justify paying $500-$600 for a freaking game console no matter how many bells and whistles they try to stuff inside. That's just crazy. I can almost build a Gaming PC for that... you know a REAL gaming platform. Not something that is totally non-upgradable and will already be made of obsolete PC hardware by the time it releases.
Bren
PS4 is only $399 and when you look at it PS3 came out in november 2006, so that is almost 7 years and still going strong. Try to build a gaming PC for 399 that will last you for 7+ years :P.
I am only getting a PS4 this time around, I spent way too much on my PC this year lol.
While that may be true in my opinion even $399 for what is essentially a fancy "toy" is too much. Like I said I may pick one up in a few years... Which one really depends on what exclusive games they each have. When I choose a console it's to play games... I have a Computer / Internet ready TV for the rest of the BS the are trying to put in what is essentially a gaming system. I'd much rather put that $400-$600 into computer upgrades (not that I need any I just built a monster rig back in January). To each his own I guess.
This gen's launch has one of the saddest line-ups I've ever seen.
Only games I want to play are Titanfall, Killer Instinct and Killzone.
i"m not spending $400-$500 to play one or two games. I'll get them later, maybe after the first price drop and a minimum of 5 games that highly interest me. I will likely buy both consoles, but I do want to point out that kinect is going to be a gimmick that will generally not be used and if it does, very marginally. Anyone expecting otherwise is soon to be disappointed.
Nintendo had entire generation with 3d input and nothing innovative came out of it. And that's because nothing will as you're not getting true 1:1 actions, you're getting shortcut symbolic actions. When people hear movement input, they start imaging that they'll get to punch and slice through things all cool like. No. What you'll get are "smart touch" movements in the air where you make an movement and the game responds as if you pressed a button.
The real future is with OcRift + Omni, it's the closest we're getting to a holodeck at this time. Kinect is just a fancy camera.
Myself personally I will be getting a PS4 and sticking with it. Last time I picked the Xbox 360 as that was the better platform although after losing 3 consoles to RROD and other hardware related issues I decided to join the PS3 crowd. For me getting a PS4 is not about hardware or price it's for these reasons.
1) I like to play a lot of RPG's and I am a big JRPG fan. As such the PS4 will pick up a heck of a lot more JRPG titles and I will be able to import the ones that don't make it to the west.
2) I have had 3 Xbox 360's. All of them broke, I had them repaired and dealt with some crappy customer service people. My PS3 which I bought second hand, has never broke. Just feel like Sony build a more reliable console for me.
3) Sony were proactive in finding out what my needs as a gamer were with a console and built a model to fit that requirement. Microsoft made a console to fit a business need and then were reactive in changing their console after the outrage. At the end of the day I am going to trust the person who wishes to grow their business with the consumers needs at the forefront of their model. Microsoft are not that company and although they might be doing a 180 right now on their decisions, it will always concern me that future plans for them will not have the consumer needs in mind. It's almost like they are purposely looking to see how much they can get away with it.
4) Microsoft doesn't allow cross platform play. The reason that many MMORPGs are not coming out for the Microsoft is because they will not allow those on console to play with those on PC. Meaning that the companies have to make a whole unique server just for the console kiddies. But, the thing that gets me with this is that Microsoft limit who their community can play with, Sony does not. As such, multiplayer on cross-platform games on PS4 will have more of a pool of people to play with.
5) I love indie games, they are a lot of fun. PS4 has a wider indie appreciation and as such I see it as the platform which will get a lot more indie based games. Microsoft have always been harsh to companies that are not 'big business'. They are kind snobbish to be honest.
Anyhow, those are my points. You can argue them if you want to, but it would be only for the benefit to satiate your Microsoft loving fervor.
LOL, do you know what the Cloud even is? That infomercial is from Microsoft expecting consumers not to know what Cloud really is. Yes, a Xbox will have more storage capability if its connected to a cloud network. But as far as transistors go. It gains not a single physical one when considering its performance. Game performance and video performance will still be the same.
Redundancy also plays a large factor in Cloud systems. This is especially important towards performance. As a connection must be made to each and every system in the cloud unless it has a central system. Even then, you are still receiving second and third strings of data. Where a single system only sends out one stream.
So is it really powerful? Not really! Just will have increased storage. Not performance. Something to think about. Sony already uses its cloud network. I have 26 games on my PS3. Have 196g of memory left. And its only a 250 g machine. Its about time that Microsoft gets its product into the modern era of the cloud. Considering Sony has been in it for a while now. At least 2 years!
Also Sony only uses Cloud data to set up a game. Once its set, or programmed into your system. Its all system then. Why do they do it that way? Like I said above. redundancy and lower game performance if playing through a cloud machine.
I had an xbox since they first made the original xbox. Currently have an xbox 360 halo edition. I will not buy the xbox one, as I want no part of the conetix camera voice activated stuff. I even went as far as not to renew my xbox gold membership.
I will probably keep my xbox 360 until I have time to evaluate the ps4.
There is absolutely no way you could pay me to put the xbox one with all the spying camera stuff in my house.
Neither. I'm still missing a few parts in order to complete my new PC but when it's done i will laugh at both Xbox One and PS4 users. Intel Core i7-3960X Extreme Edition, 16GB Quad Channel DDR3 3200 Ram, Gainward GTX 770 Phantom 4GB, 2 x OCZ Vector 512GB SSD.
In terms of raw processing power this system will blow both consoles out of the water.
It is amazing how many people have strong opinions on the topic but haven't actually been looking into the issues. I see a lot of people citing really outdated material and some outright false information. This isn't the place to go into all of the details.
On the topic at hand, I will be getting both, but Xbox One first t launch and the PS4 in the spring or summer. Both systems are actually very similar and it comes down to game preferences. Typically, though not always, fans who prefer Final Fantasy and Japanese culture games tend to have a preference for the PS devices while those into Western culture, sports and shooters are typically more attracted to the Xbox. Of course there are exceptions, but these generalities hold up pretty well amongst the large gamer population.
LOL, do you know what the Cloud even is? That infomercial is from Microsoft expecting consumers not to know what Cloud really is. Yes, a Xbox will have more storage capability if its connected to a cloud network. But as far as transistors go. It gains not a single physical one when considering its performance. Game performance and video performance will still be the same.
Redundancy also plays a large factor in Cloud systems. This is especially important towards performance. As a connection must be made to each and every system in the cloud unless it has a central system. Even then, you are still receiving second and third strings of data. Where a single system only sends out one stream.
So is it really powerful? Not really! Just will have increased storage. Not performance. Something to think about. Sony already uses its cloud network. I have 26 games on my PS3. Have 196g of memory left. And its only a 250 g machine. Its about time that Microsoft gets its product into the modern era of the cloud. Considering Sony has been in it for a while now. At least 2 years!
Also Sony only uses Cloud data to set up a game. Once its set, or programmed into your system. Its all system then. Why do they do it that way? Like I said above. redundancy and lower game performance if playing through a cloud machine.
Please, no more Smoke n Mirrors!
LOL, so now IGN is lying? Turn 10 is lying to us all about Forza 5? Isomniac is lying to us all about Sunset Overdrive?
I currently got Xbox ONE preordered, it has the most exclusive games I like. The PS4 has ZERO. If I were to get a PS4 at launch it would be like buying an expensive paper weight.
I will probably get a PS4 later especially if they get old playstation games going through Gakai or whatever it is called, but I will believe it when I see it. Sony is all full of talk and no action.
The PS2 was going to be like the Xbox ONE with its HDD, being able to record TV and be used like a DVR but was not, and even the HDD never reached EU. Gran Turismo 5 was intended to be released 2009 and about a week before released it got delayed and never released for another year. When PS3 was announced there was a game in development by Team ICO and it still not released yet. The online service is always inferior to Xbox. They allowed their network to get hacked and the online service was offline for weeks, which was beyond incompetent. Sony were going to block used games and they have a patent in place to stop a game to show adverts.
Microsoft always do what the customer wants, and has plenty of money to throw around to make it happen. The original Xbox lead the way because they sold the console at a loss, the 360 lead the way as it had many games to begin with, and now with the ONE they are bending over backwards to please the consumer. They are giving FIFA 14 for free with every preorder, and if the console lags behind even more, they will no doubt give away more free stuff.
Tech of consoles or PC is irrelevant if devs do not take advantage of the tech. Dead Space 3 was a poor PC game as it was a direct console port and even used DX9 and not DX11, so the PC game was not any better than the console versions. Also FIFA 14 on PC will not feature the new Ignite system on PC but the PS4 and Xbox ONE versions will, so even you if you have a PC to blow the new consoles out of the water, FIFA 14 will still be better on consoles, as EA do not think enough people own powerful PCs to handle it, and therefore there will be low sales, so the PC version will be similar the Xbox 360 / PS3 versions.
The PS4 looks better on paper but will It be better in reality? Will have to wait and see after launch when people test them side by side.
Neither... Maybe when they come down in price in a few years and have been "Out in the Wild" for a while I may buy one or the other. I just can't justify paying $500-$600 for a freaking game console no matter how many bells and whistles they try to stuff inside. That's just crazy. I can almost build a Gaming PC for that... you know a REAL gaming platform. Not something that is totally non-upgradable and will already be made of obsolete PC hardware by the time it releases.
Bren
PS4 is only $399 and when you look at it PS3 came out in november 2006, so that is almost 7 years and still going strong. Try to build a gaming PC for 399 that will last you for 7+ years :P.
I am only getting a PS4 this time around, I spent way too much on my PC this year lol.
While that may be true in my opinion even $399 for what is essentially a fancy "toy" is too much. Like I said I may pick one up in a few years... Which one really depends on what exclusive games they each have. When I choose a console it's to play games... I have a Computer / Internet ready TV for the rest of the BS the are trying to put in what is essentially a gaming system. I'd much rather put that $400-$600 into computer upgrades (not that I need any I just built a monster rig back in January). To each his own I guess.
Bren
Hehe, I can't think of a reason to spend more money on my rig (my sig) and I have spare money, so might as well get a ps4 for exclusives I thought.
I currently got Xbox ONE preordered, it has the most exclusive games I like. The PS4 has ZERO. If I were to get a PS4 at launch it would be like buying an expensive paper weight.
I will probably get a PS4 later especially if they get old playstation games going through Gakai or whatever it is called, but I will believe it when I see it. Sony is all full of talk and no action.
The PS2 was going to be like the Xbox ONE with its HDD, being able to record TV and be used like a DVR but was not, and even the HDD never reached EU. Gran Turismo 5 was intended to be released 2009 and about a week before released it got delayed and never released for another year. When PS3 was announced there was a game in development by Team ICO and it still not released yet. The online service is always inferior to Xbox. They allowed their network to get hacked and the online service was offline for weeks, which was beyond incompetent. Sony were going to block used games and they have a patent in place to stop a game to show adverts.
Microsoft always do what the customer wants, and has plenty of money to throw around to make it happen. The original Xbox lead the way because they sold the console at a loss, the 360 lead the way as it had many games to begin with, and now with the ONE they are bending over backwards to please the consumer. They are giving FIFA 14 for free with every preorder, and if the console lags behind even more, they will no doubt give away more free stuff.
Tech of consoles or PC is irrelevant if devs do not take advantage of the tech. Dead Space 3 was a poor PC game as it was a direct console port and even used DX9 and not DX11, so the PC game was not any better than the console versions. Also FIFA 14 on PC will not feature the new Ignite system on PC but the PS4 and Xbox ONE versions will, so even you if you have a PC to blow the new consoles out of the water, FIFA 14 will still be better on consoles, as EA do not think enough people own powerful PCs to handle it, and therefore there will be low sales, so the PC version will be similar the Xbox 360 / PS3 versions.
The PS4 looks better on paper but will It be better in reality? Will have to wait and see after launch when people test them side by side.
The only reasons I can think of to get an Xbox One over a PS4 are:
1) Being a huge fan of Kinect,
2) Being a huge fan of some Xbox One-exclusive titles,
3) Getting a Microsoft employee discount price, or
4) Not knowing any better.
Among people who will actually buy the Xbox One, I'd expect the usual justification to be (4).
The PlayStation 4 gives you far superior hardware for a much lower price tag. Microsoft's backing off of some other anti-user policies may close the gap with Sony in those areas, but they haven't done anything to address the fact that they're charging far more for far inferior hardware.
If Microsoft could only attain rough parity with Sony in a generation when they made far more sensible hardware choices (Cell in the PS3 was a very, very bad idea), I can't imagine that having the hardware situation reversed will end better for them.
With the Xbox One, I'd worry about whether Microsoft is able to sell enough of them to get game developers to overwhelmingly be eager to develop for it, rather than many major games ignoring it for lack of market share, even without Sony buying them off somehow. See, for example, Windows RT.
The only reasons I can think of to get an Xbox One over a PS4 are:
1) Being a huge fan of Kinect,
2) Being a huge fan of some Xbox One-exclusive titles,
3) Getting a Microsoft employee discount price, or
4) Not knowing any better.
Among people who will actually buy the Xbox One, I'd expect the usual justification to be (4).
The PlayStation 4 gives you far superior hardware for a much lower price tag. Microsoft's backing off of some other anti-user policies may close the gap with Sony in those areas, but they haven't done anything to address the fact that they're charging far more for far inferior hardware.
If Microsoft could only attain rough parity with Sony in a generation when they made far more sensible hardware choices (Cell in the PS3 was a very, very bad idea), I can't imagine that having the hardware situation reversed will end better for them.
With the Xbox One, I'd worry about whether Microsoft is able to sell enough of them to get game developers to overwhelmingly be eager to develop for it, rather than many major games ignoring it for lack of market share, even without Sony buying them off somehow. See, for example, Windows RT.
Far superior hardware? WTF are you talking about? LOL
Then again, this is the guy who said Oculus Rift can't work due to blah blah blah and then John Frickin Carmack joins their team and developers start expressing interest in it.... oh boy. If you had any idea what the specs were then maybe you'd say the same thing that other big developers have been stating... they are almost the exact same.
*edit and to beat you too the punch, the DDR5 ram won't make a noticeable difference in gameplay at all. The only thing that is going to make a difference is Microsoft has admitted 3GB fo ram will be reserved for the OS. With that said, you, nor anyone else really knows how Sony is going to utilize theirs. I am still smiling that you said Sony's hardware was far superior though HAhAhahAhAhahah.
Am I missing something? What is with all the Xbox One hype? They had a terrible unveiling and the damn thing seemed to be nothing more than a glorified streaming media player. So what, all of a sudden they drop the connection requirements and allow game trading and everyone's good? What else does the thing have to offer? Why buy a device for one game? Don't tell me you all aren't getting it just for Halo.
The only reasons I can think of to get an Xbox One over a PS4 are:
1) Being a huge fan of Kinect,
2) Being a huge fan of some Xbox One-exclusive titles,
3) Getting a Microsoft employee discount price, or
4) Not knowing any better.
Among people who will actually buy the Xbox One, I'd expect the usual justification to be (4).
The PlayStation 4 gives you far superior hardware for a much lower price tag. Microsoft's backing off of some other anti-user policies may close the gap with Sony in those areas, but they haven't done anything to address the fact that they're charging far more for far inferior hardware.
If Microsoft could only attain rough parity with Sony in a generation when they made far more sensible hardware choices (Cell in the PS3 was a very, very bad idea), I can't imagine that having the hardware situation reversed will end better for them.
With the Xbox One, I'd worry about whether Microsoft is able to sell enough of them to get game developers to overwhelmingly be eager to develop for it, rather than many major games ignoring it for lack of market share, even without Sony buying them off somehow. See, for example, Windows RT.
Far superior hardware? WTF are you talking about? LOL
Then again, this is the guy who said Oculus Rift can't work due to blah blah blah and then John Frickin Carmack joins their team and developers start expressing interest in it.... oh boy. If you had any idea what the specs were then maybe you'd say the same thing that other big developers have been stating... they are almost the exact same.
*edit and to beat you too the punch, the DDR5 ram won't make a noticeable difference in gameplay at all. The only thing that is going to make a difference is Microsoft has admitted 3GB fo ram will be reserved for the OS. With that said, you, nor anyone else really knows how Sony is going to utilize theirs. I am still smiling that you said Sony's hardware was far superior though HAhAhahAhAhahah.
It not far superior, but still superior to that of Xbox One through raw power PS4's GPU has 1152 shaders and does 1.84TeraFlops/s, whereas Xbox One has a 853 MHz AMD Radeon GPU w/ 768 shaders and does 1.31 Tera/Flops/s. But, I think they will both perform close to each other performance wise.
My choice for choosing a PS4 over the Xbox One is that it has a removable hard drive, this is important to me because I want to backup all my downloaded games through PS plus. And I like the controller better than the Xbox One's. The DRM stuff Xbox One had didn't bother me one bit, I actually liked it (have over 500 games on steam, it's the same thing basically).
I wandered into the living room and there was my daughter listening to music via her mobile phone.....while typing on facebook via her laptop.....while watching a movie on the big TV........and it all went click........the xbox one is tailor made for 12 year olds,people who don't have the patience to invest in a real game.
Yep....let's play Dead Rising 3....and call in an air strike via our windows phone......the kids will love that.
Originally posted by SelfDestructPro Am I missing something? What is with all the Xbox One hype? They had a terrible unveiling and the damn thing seemed to be nothing more than a glorified streaming media player. So what, all of a sudden they drop the connection requirements and allow game trading and everyone's good? What else does the thing have to offer? Why buy a device for one game? Don't tell me you all aren't getting it just for Halo.
No. It is the games I am going after not the consoles
Xbox ONE currently has more exclusive games than PS4, unless you are looking to get into MMOs
I really put a lot of effort into wanting a PS4 as was dead against the DRM policies before MS reversed it, but Xbox just had way more games, that blew me away and even if they went ahead with the DRM I still would have chosen Xbox ONE over PS4 or chose neither.
Xbox ONE games I like the look of are Ryse, D4, Daed Rising 3, Killer Instinct, Sunset Overdrive, Crimson Dragon (spiritual successor of the Panzer Dragoon series), Quantum Break, Project Spark, plus the usuals - Halo 5 and Forza 5
PS4 has Knack, Killzone, Infamous, Drive Club and The Order 1886. Knack looks OK but nothing to rush out and get, looks a game to showcase the PS4, Killzone and Infamous did nothing for me on PS2/PS3, Drive Club looks OK and may get it, depending on reviews but Forza 5 will do for now. The only game that I would probably buy a PS4 specifically for is The Order 1886
Xbox ONE = 10 exclusives, PS4 = 1 exclusive, and that is why I choose Xbox ONE.
Also it will be getting exclusive TV shows - Halo and Blakes 7 (although I am more interested in Halo as it is done by Steven Spielberg who I am a fan of, not because of Halo, I am not exactly a Halo fan but it is a fun game)
When PS4 gets more games I want then I will get PS4 then. If PS4 does indeed outperform Xbox ONE, then I may get multiplatform games on PS4, and exclusives on Xbox ONE, otherwise it will be Xbox ONE as main console and PS4 for exclusives.
In the end I may not even get a PS4, at least the PS3 gave me a Blu Ray player, but with Xbox ONE and PS3 I will have two now as it is.
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While that may be true in my opinion even $399 for what is essentially a fancy "toy" is too much. Like I said I may pick one up in a few years... Which one really depends on what exclusive games they each have. When I choose a console it's to play games... I have a Computer / Internet ready TV for the rest of the BS the are trying to put in what is essentially a gaming system. I'd much rather put that $400-$600 into computer upgrades (not that I need any I just built a monster rig back in January). To each his own I guess.
Bren
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So you think XB1's 50% weaker GPU and less bandwidth will be better.....Enjoy eating crow.
Enjoy eating crow x2!! OMG its a feast!!! I agree with Grndzro
I can keep going.
http://www.techradar.com/au/news/gaming/consoles/ps4-and-xbox-one-venture-to-comic-con-for-first-public-play-through-1167234
I'm going to wait until they have some games.
This gen's launch has one of the saddest line-ups I've ever seen.
Only games I want to play are Titanfall, Killer Instinct and Killzone.
i"m not spending $400-$500 to play one or two games. I'll get them later, maybe after the first price drop and a minimum of 5 games that highly interest me. I will likely buy both consoles, but I do want to point out that kinect is going to be a gimmick that will generally not be used and if it does, very marginally. Anyone expecting otherwise is soon to be disappointed.
Nintendo had entire generation with 3d input and nothing innovative came out of it. And that's because nothing will as you're not getting true 1:1 actions, you're getting shortcut symbolic actions. When people hear movement input, they start imaging that they'll get to punch and slice through things all cool like. No. What you'll get are "smart touch" movements in the air where you make an movement and the game responds as if you pressed a button.
The real future is with OcRift + Omni, it's the closest we're getting to a holodeck at this time. Kinect is just a fancy camera.
Myself personally I will be getting a PS4 and sticking with it. Last time I picked the Xbox 360 as that was the better platform although after losing 3 consoles to RROD and other hardware related issues I decided to join the PS3 crowd. For me getting a PS4 is not about hardware or price it's for these reasons.
1) I like to play a lot of RPG's and I am a big JRPG fan. As such the PS4 will pick up a heck of a lot more JRPG titles and I will be able to import the ones that don't make it to the west.
2) I have had 3 Xbox 360's. All of them broke, I had them repaired and dealt with some crappy customer service people. My PS3 which I bought second hand, has never broke. Just feel like Sony build a more reliable console for me.
3) Sony were proactive in finding out what my needs as a gamer were with a console and built a model to fit that requirement. Microsoft made a console to fit a business need and then were reactive in changing their console after the outrage. At the end of the day I am going to trust the person who wishes to grow their business with the consumers needs at the forefront of their model. Microsoft are not that company and although they might be doing a 180 right now on their decisions, it will always concern me that future plans for them will not have the consumer needs in mind. It's almost like they are purposely looking to see how much they can get away with it.
4) Microsoft doesn't allow cross platform play. The reason that many MMORPGs are not coming out for the Microsoft is because they will not allow those on console to play with those on PC. Meaning that the companies have to make a whole unique server just for the console kiddies. But, the thing that gets me with this is that Microsoft limit who their community can play with, Sony does not. As such, multiplayer on cross-platform games on PS4 will have more of a pool of people to play with.
5) I love indie games, they are a lot of fun. PS4 has a wider indie appreciation and as such I see it as the platform which will get a lot more indie based games. Microsoft have always been harsh to companies that are not 'big business'. They are kind snobbish to be honest.
Anyhow, those are my points. You can argue them if you want to, but it would be only for the benefit to satiate your Microsoft loving fervor.
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Xbox One will be the first system ever to become more powerful over time.
http://www.ign.com/videos/2013/05/21/xbox-one-to-become-more-powerful-over-time
LOL, do you know what the Cloud even is? That infomercial is from Microsoft expecting consumers not to know what Cloud really is. Yes, a Xbox will have more storage capability if its connected to a cloud network. But as far as transistors go. It gains not a single physical one when considering its performance. Game performance and video performance will still be the same.
Redundancy also plays a large factor in Cloud systems. This is especially important towards performance. As a connection must be made to each and every system in the cloud unless it has a central system. Even then, you are still receiving second and third strings of data. Where a single system only sends out one stream.
So is it really powerful? Not really! Just will have increased storage. Not performance. Something to think about. Sony already uses its cloud network. I have 26 games on my PS3. Have 196g of memory left. And its only a 250 g machine. Its about time that Microsoft gets its product into the modern era of the cloud. Considering Sony has been in it for a while now. At least 2 years!
Also Sony only uses Cloud data to set up a game. Once its set, or programmed into your system. Its all system then. Why do they do it that way? Like I said above. redundancy and lower game performance if playing through a cloud machine.
Please, no more Smoke n Mirrors!
I had an xbox since they first made the original xbox. Currently have an xbox 360 halo edition. I will not buy the xbox one, as I want no part of the conetix camera voice activated stuff. I even went as far as not to renew my xbox gold membership.
I will probably keep my xbox 360 until I have time to evaluate the ps4.
There is absolutely no way you could pay me to put the xbox one with all the spying camera stuff in my house.
Neither. I'm still missing a few parts in order to complete my new PC but when it's done i will laugh at both Xbox One and PS4 users. Intel Core i7-3960X Extreme Edition, 16GB Quad Channel DDR3 3200 Ram, Gainward GTX 770 Phantom 4GB, 2 x OCZ Vector 512GB SSD.
In terms of raw processing power this system will blow both consoles out of the water.
It is amazing how many people have strong opinions on the topic but haven't actually been looking into the issues. I see a lot of people citing really outdated material and some outright false information. This isn't the place to go into all of the details.
On the topic at hand, I will be getting both, but Xbox One first t launch and the PS4 in the spring or summer. Both systems are actually very similar and it comes down to game preferences. Typically, though not always, fans who prefer Final Fantasy and Japanese culture games tend to have a preference for the PS devices while those into Western culture, sports and shooters are typically more attracted to the Xbox. Of course there are exceptions, but these generalities hold up pretty well amongst the large gamer population.
LOL, so now IGN is lying? Turn 10 is lying to us all about Forza 5? Isomniac is lying to us all about Sunset Overdrive?
Hatters gonna hate.
http://www.oxm.co.uk/56323/turn-10-explains-forza-5s-xbox-one-cloud-processing-actual-file-transfers-are-small/
http://www.engadget.com/2013/06/10/insomniac-sunset-overdrive-cloud-gaming/
PS4 will have only cloud storage. Xbox One will have cloud computing and cloud storage. Post links to what you are saying or dont waste our time.
Show me ANY PS4 cloud computing games. Like I said, I can keep going.
I currently got Xbox ONE preordered, it has the most exclusive games I like. The PS4 has ZERO. If I were to get a PS4 at launch it would be like buying an expensive paper weight.
I will probably get a PS4 later especially if they get old playstation games going through Gakai or whatever it is called, but I will believe it when I see it. Sony is all full of talk and no action.
The PS2 was going to be like the Xbox ONE with its HDD, being able to record TV and be used like a DVR but was not, and even the HDD never reached EU. Gran Turismo 5 was intended to be released 2009 and about a week before released it got delayed and never released for another year. When PS3 was announced there was a game in development by Team ICO and it still not released yet. The online service is always inferior to Xbox. They allowed their network to get hacked and the online service was offline for weeks, which was beyond incompetent. Sony were going to block used games and they have a patent in place to stop a game to show adverts.
Microsoft always do what the customer wants, and has plenty of money to throw around to make it happen. The original Xbox lead the way because they sold the console at a loss, the 360 lead the way as it had many games to begin with, and now with the ONE they are bending over backwards to please the consumer. They are giving FIFA 14 for free with every preorder, and if the console lags behind even more, they will no doubt give away more free stuff.
Tech of consoles or PC is irrelevant if devs do not take advantage of the tech. Dead Space 3 was a poor PC game as it was a direct console port and even used DX9 and not DX11, so the PC game was not any better than the console versions. Also FIFA 14 on PC will not feature the new Ignite system on PC but the PS4 and Xbox ONE versions will, so even you if you have a PC to blow the new consoles out of the water, FIFA 14 will still be better on consoles, as EA do not think enough people own powerful PCs to handle it, and therefore there will be low sales, so the PC version will be similar the Xbox 360 / PS3 versions.
The PS4 looks better on paper but will It be better in reality? Will have to wait and see after launch when people test them side by side.
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Hehe, I can't think of a reason to spend more money on my rig (my sig) and I have spare money, so might as well get a ps4 for exclusives I thought.
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The only reasons I can think of to get an Xbox One over a PS4 are:
1) Being a huge fan of Kinect,
2) Being a huge fan of some Xbox One-exclusive titles,
3) Getting a Microsoft employee discount price, or
4) Not knowing any better.
Among people who will actually buy the Xbox One, I'd expect the usual justification to be (4).
The PlayStation 4 gives you far superior hardware for a much lower price tag. Microsoft's backing off of some other anti-user policies may close the gap with Sony in those areas, but they haven't done anything to address the fact that they're charging far more for far inferior hardware.
If Microsoft could only attain rough parity with Sony in a generation when they made far more sensible hardware choices (Cell in the PS3 was a very, very bad idea), I can't imagine that having the hardware situation reversed will end better for them.
With the Xbox One, I'd worry about whether Microsoft is able to sell enough of them to get game developers to overwhelmingly be eager to develop for it, rather than many major games ignoring it for lack of market share, even without Sony buying them off somehow. See, for example, Windows RT.
Far superior hardware? WTF are you talking about? LOL
Then again, this is the guy who said Oculus Rift can't work due to blah blah blah and then John Frickin Carmack joins their team and developers start expressing interest in it.... oh boy. If you had any idea what the specs were then maybe you'd say the same thing that other big developers have been stating... they are almost the exact same.
*edit and to beat you too the punch, the DDR5 ram won't make a noticeable difference in gameplay at all. The only thing that is going to make a difference is Microsoft has admitted 3GB fo ram will be reserved for the OS. With that said, you, nor anyone else really knows how Sony is going to utilize theirs. I am still smiling that you said Sony's hardware was far superior though HAhAhahAhAhahah.
It not far superior, but still superior to that of Xbox One through raw power PS4's GPU has 1152 shaders and does 1.84TeraFlops/s, whereas Xbox One has a 853 MHz AMD Radeon GPU w/ 768 shaders and does 1.31 Tera/Flops/s. But, I think they will both perform close to each other performance wise.
My choice for choosing a PS4 over the Xbox One is that it has a removable hard drive, this is important to me because I want to backup all my downloaded games through PS plus. And I like the controller better than the Xbox One's. The DRM stuff Xbox One had didn't bother me one bit, I actually liked it (have over 500 games on steam, it's the same thing basically).
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I wandered into the living room and there was my daughter listening to music via her mobile phone.....while typing on facebook via her laptop.....while watching a movie on the big TV........and it all went click........the xbox one is tailor made for 12 year olds,people who don't have the patience to invest in a real game.
Yep....let's play Dead Rising 3....and call in an air strike via our windows phone......the kids will love that.
No. It is the games I am going after not the consoles
Xbox ONE currently has more exclusive games than PS4, unless you are looking to get into MMOs
I really put a lot of effort into wanting a PS4 as was dead against the DRM policies before MS reversed it, but Xbox just had way more games, that blew me away and even if they went ahead with the DRM I still would have chosen Xbox ONE over PS4 or chose neither.
Xbox ONE games I like the look of are Ryse, D4, Daed Rising 3, Killer Instinct, Sunset Overdrive, Crimson Dragon (spiritual successor of the Panzer Dragoon series), Quantum Break, Project Spark, plus the usuals - Halo 5 and Forza 5
PS4 has Knack, Killzone, Infamous, Drive Club and The Order 1886. Knack looks OK but nothing to rush out and get, looks a game to showcase the PS4, Killzone and Infamous did nothing for me on PS2/PS3, Drive Club looks OK and may get it, depending on reviews but Forza 5 will do for now. The only game that I would probably buy a PS4 specifically for is The Order 1886
Xbox ONE = 10 exclusives, PS4 = 1 exclusive, and that is why I choose Xbox ONE.
Also it will be getting exclusive TV shows - Halo and Blakes 7 (although I am more interested in Halo as it is done by Steven Spielberg who I am a fan of, not because of Halo, I am not exactly a Halo fan but it is a fun game)
When PS4 gets more games I want then I will get PS4 then. If PS4 does indeed outperform Xbox ONE, then I may get multiplatform games on PS4, and exclusives on Xbox ONE, otherwise it will be Xbox ONE as main console and PS4 for exclusives.
In the end I may not even get a PS4, at least the PS3 gave me a Blu Ray player, but with Xbox ONE and PS3 I will have two now as it is.
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